I like the section on limpers quite a bit. I put it to game play right away. It is common for most to be weak limpers. They wannna see flops. I use that against them.
So I have a hand I played a week ago, and I need an idea if I misplayed it or might the right move. I had pocket 9s in middle position (+3) it limped to me. And I made it $20. The button called and the big blind called and then the UTG 3 bet after limping to $110 it folds to me but I'm stuck between players that could reraise and two players that could possibly have a better hand than me. I let my hand go, and only the button calls. Side note: the UTG is a known regular who plays very well. Could have bluffs but has shown a lot that he has good hands when he makes it to show down. The flop had a 9 on it, and it went to showdown where the UTG did have kings.
Hi Jonathan, I love your videos but I often can’t read the pokercoaching charts because I am red green colorblind and the very light reds and greens on those particular charts make it impossible to tell them apart. If the colors were slightly darker or more vivid it would probably be fine. I’m sure other people who are red green colorblind have had the same problem but most other charts use a similar color coding and are still visible. If it were possible to change the colors slightly or add an option on the app that would be awesome but understandable if it’s too much to ask. Just wanted to put that out there
5:29 actually, in cash games, blinds can become meaningless esp. if the table is pumped up by design… formula doesn’t work on such table b/c pf isolation requires much higher 3/4-bets. What’s the point of formulaically raising “correctly” when multi-way calls render your odds garbage.
Question @PokerCoaching if my opponents are constantly straddling in 1-3 cash game, My casino allows under the gun or the button to do this. So you know at least half the table is straddling. Would you just consider that to be an ante and open your range in those pots?
the 88 hand when you are talking limpers. Isnt the button bet, because everyone checks, often a standard bet to take the pot such a possibility, you are more often good? Would you check raise? Seems more plausable. I value your opinion. Thank you
Personally I rarely ever overlimp unless it’s like 22-66 in late position. If I’m playing in a pot it will be a raised pot. I have heard a lot of my opponents asking complaint whatever why I’m raising a lot. It causes them to tilt and make even worse call’s especially OOP against me. I rarely see the tricky limper. If I do get limp reraised I only continue w hands that aren’t dominated. Rather I fold KQo but am more than happy to call w 56s.
As always thanks for the lessons! I was waiting for 1/3, a man walked in and asked how 4/8 limit is played. After some explanations from the floor, he asked to be put on 3/5 NL. LOL!!
I always stop playing if I approach $1200 in $1-$2 because I’m afraid they will make me pay taxes. Is that reasonable? It’s happened 3-4 times now. Where I leave with $1,000+ but before I hit $1,200.
Your videos have helped me a lot in just one game. I was up 400 in a 1/3 from a minimum 100 but in. Ran into ace high flush vs king high flush. I’m upset at myself but today was def one of the best games I ever played. Back to the drawing board and to focus up. Thanks
Great channel. Aside from the topic in this video (which was very accurate), what do you think about Americas Card Room? I reside in New York State so online poker is very limited. I've been playing ACR for years. Never large stakes. Mostly low and micro tournaments and some cash. I will play about 5-7 tournaments a week. I will reach the bubble quite often and even min-cash. However I never go beyond min-cashing. Before the bubble I will have a commanding chip lead, within the top 10% of the field. Yet near the bubble I ALWAYS begin to lose. It never seems to fail. I also play live poker on the weekends with positive results (to the point where I have considered quitting my job to play full time) and study poker just about daily. So this all leads back to ACR and whether or not something shady is going on when players get near the money. Has anyone ever analyzed hand histories like they did with Ultimate Bet and Full Tilt Poker to see whether or not certain users are winning with sketchy hands all too often? Just curious if you know anything about ACR. Thanks for all the videos and info you provide
can you do a video on estimating your opponents’ ranges online. I’m new to poker and I really want to apply this material but Im not sure how I’m supposed to figure out my opponents’ ranges when very few hands (at least the stakes I see) go to showdown and when they do 50%+ of the time one person mucks (at least on Bovada, Im going to try ignition so maybe it’s different on there). In the end I maybe see 1 face up hand in a 9max table every 10 minutes or more. I’m not sure how I should go about building a profile on players, or if in situations like this I shouldn’t be trying to build a profile but stick to certain rules or whatever. hell i’ll even buy a course if it goes into stuff like this. I don’t really have the income to start off playing $1/$2 but I think a lot of gto assumptions dont apply microstakes online. It _is_ microstakes so im sure it all comes down to fundamentals but im not sure what those fundamentals are (linear betting strategy? try not to bluff? etc?)
It's to bad that the only poker you want to talk about is no limit. What about 3/6 or 4/8 limit poker? That's where you have to think about what cards are on the table. No limit is attitude. How you bet. How you call all play a part. That promotes stupid all-ins.
I hope your at least 70 years old, if no limit is to much for you to handle with all those stupid all ins them maybe you should stick to playing bridge or solitaire
I know this video is a year old. But the first lesson about raising 3x + extra money in pot is extremely outdated information for low stakes such as 1/2. If you're the CO and have 2 limpers and raise to $11. You are going to get calls from the 2 limpers just about 100% of the time. And you'll likely get calls from the BTN, SB, and BB too. Enjoy taking every hand 4+ ways to the flop. I used to follow this rule when I first started out and got all my premiums cracked so many times. Then I signed up for a different poker coaching site and they say start with a standard raise. If it's still going multi way start adding to your raise size until you find a spot where you're getting 1-2 calls. Ever since I started doing that my win rate went way up.
@@supersmoo7377 For 100bbs or more it's 3x and for 60bb or less it's 2.25x. Raising more will increase your variance in the long run by forcing you to commit with more marginal hands.
In one 5hr session I went from $300 to $600 down to $120 then back up to $760. I decided to call it after that, but was on a decent win streak. Do you think I should have continued to play for another few hours or until I started losing a few hands?
Last week playing 1/2 was UTG + 2 with 150BB I raised $20 with AQ spades. Button calls, Sm blind and BB calls. Flop is A,10,10. Button empties my stack with 10,4 of diamonds. This happens alot in Texas.
With 2 10s on the board i would play a lot tighter/conservatively since your opponent may have 3 of a kind. Maybe check the flop and if they raise big make the safe bet of assuming they have 3 10s and fold. I'm not an expert by any means just how I would probably play it
10bb open with 4 callers and you lost 140bb more on A 10 10? Not sure what Texas has to do with it but there are fish every where. I hate to break it to you but sounds like you are swimming around just like the 104 button caller.
Just started the vid but already confused lol. Isnt a pot sized raise just literally whats in the pot the moment i decide to raise? Whats the logic vehind this "3x the last bet"? Thx in advance
I wasn't sure about who's videos to follow in my quest to get help. But over time it's clearly Jonathan and his team. Fortunately for me, I live in Cincinnati, where I started poker. After moving back from Sacramento and playing poker in places like Reno in Sacramento. A lot of the cash game players are as Jonathan describes them and being more aggressive in the right spots ultimately gives me a great edge. Multiple people at the table while I was at. We're playing trash like Jack 3. Trying to hit two pair. Here Fishy fishy!!!!
I use a strategy OOP with off connectors, I call small raises when I am closing the action and if I dont hit an open ended, two pairs or trips I fold to a continuation bet. I normally do good wining big pots and losing my initial pre flop call when I dont connect. Very important to know that I don’t continue if I flop a mid pair. My intention with this hands is to flop something closed to the nuts.
Thanks for your training, all the advice you given could’ve changed my life in the future. I start playing part time next week and try to be a full time player in the future
I followed the training as you instructed and worked out very well today on my first day of “part time job “and able to win the much bigger pot than usual because opponents would always think I am bluffing and unable to read my hand. I started getting into the understanding of the GTO theory .thanks so much Johnathan
Come to any texas room and blast it for 10X or whatever ridiculous amount you want. The next person in line after you will determine if you get 4 calls or no calls. If they call everyone does, if they fold they all do.
Bcs my local game is very loose passive I do have some limps, for balance I also 3 bet the stuff I would 3 bet out of the blinds i.e. Ax suited and dependent on the player Kx suited.
4:18 I can just count the amount in the pot and bet that, right. Why do it like this. It seems to over complicate something that is simple as counting the money in the pot and betting that amount.
Superb content. Ive been playing cash games for 16 year only small stuff like £.50 £1 (£100 buy ins) but after watching this video theres always something new to learn and different ways to see things. A+
I am relatively new in poker , you are good at it , it's very obvious, being new I feel shy about going to poker room, do I have a reputable on line site u would recommend, will appreciate
2:32 sorry, I didn’t get it. You said 3x last bet + any money in the pot In the pot we have 3 bb (3 limps) + sb + bb. wouldn't the correct number be 3bb + 3bb + 0.5bb + 1bb = 7.5bb?
I use the strategy of 5 for each limper. I have tried opening to $10 and $15. Personally I have found $15 to be more effective. One because rake is high so bigger pots are better when playing in pots. If there are 3 limpers to me on button I will raise $25 or even $30 if I have found they call with all sorts of trash especially OOP. You’re average 1/3 1/2 player is not thinking abt BBs rather just the money. They just wanna gamble with QJo OOP and hope to cooler someone and make a straight by limp calling. Raising to $13 over 3 limpers is a joke. I do not like this.
I need a video on bankroll management and spending discipline. My withdraw exceeds my deposit amount but I work a career and don't feel the importance of having a bankroll. I play, i win i spend rinse repeat. My withdraw rate leads my deposit rate. Turn that deposit of $20 into $100, then proceed to buy lunch everyday or punt some of my winnings into slot machines or other frivolous spending. This pattern forces me to keep depositing more money. I see a higher amount of $ withdraw and my deposit $ is closely trailing my deposit amount. I prevent myself from going to higher stakes because I don't want to chance losing money I am uncomfortable with. Enough self control to not play what I can't afford to lose but not enough discipline to build a roll. Vicious cycle.
Two things. First make sure that initial deposit is irrelevant to you monetarily (aka money you don’t need and wouldn’t mind losing). Second, set an amount you can comfortably play the stakes you are playing and do not withdraw prior to reaching this goal. If the difference between your deposit and a comfortable bankroll is enough that you feel compelled to withdraw it then you probably should not be playing those stakes to begin with. Once you reach a solid bankroll and can consistently beat the stakes you are playing then there is nothing wrong with a cash out to treat yourself. You are going to have downswings no matter how well you play and the only way to properly play yourself out of them is to be adequately rolled. When you can separate your bankroll and other income you allow yourself to play properly and take chances at higher stakes occasionally.
Thank you, Jonathan! In Vegas for the first time and somewhat intimidated but this video helped me get my head in the right space to go play. See you all at the tables. LFG!
Hey Jonathan thank you, I had a question regarding preflop bet sizing. You mentioned that default bet sizing should be 3x previous bet plus the pot, however with limpers this ends up being a small bet and with rake considerations it was my basic understanding that you shouldn’t make a small bet in 1/2 or 1/3 because of rake. For instance at 1/2 with one limper you would be making it only 9$ and with one caller pot would be like 16$ so at 1/2 I and 1/3 always try to make it at least 12$ and I worry that even that might be too small
At what point does one play with sound strategy like this versus bailing their strategy because other players have no clue about playing within ranges? How do you take their money if they play every hand whether their hand is good or bad?
Love all the great advice. One thing to consider is that at most live card rooms, $1/2 gets so heavily raked that winning small pots is a less viable strategy. Example @26:04 winning a pot of $17 with a small c-bet... Local card room does a $2 rake for a high hand, and a $2 rake for a pot between $10-19. So in this case, you'd only be winning $13 instead of $17.
i played today 0.1 0.2 cents 2 dollar buy in.... they all fold too often and only bet with the nutz. bluffs rarely works if the pot is big. how to be agresssive with these player who fold when you have game and only bet when they have nutz.... do i limp too? if i bet everybody folds but the guy with the nutz? how to beat this game ????
Your first 2 statements are contradictory. You cannot have both conditions: a) they fold too often + b) bluffs rarely work. If bluffs aren’t working, they aren’t folding. If they are folding too much bluffs will work. You probably just need to learn to read hands. It’s likely that they fold early but won’t after they’ve put in large amounts - because they have stated they likely have a strong hand by that point
When you’re in sb. If cutoff whose pro opens and you have hand like 88 and bb is big fish who will call if u call, then shouldn’t u call to invite bb fish into the pot instead of 3 betting and isolating vs pro oop?
What if making oversized raises preflop does not cost you action? Eg $2/$3 8-handed, open UTG to $20, I will usually see the flop about 4-way. This is not uncommon in low stakes cash games. In games like this is it better to make the bigger opening raise for value, or still stick to 3BB or so?
If you’re playing $2/$3 live and you open to $20 UTG and get three callers nearly every time, then you’re playing in a great game. It’s easier to win money in this game.. you can start raising even larger UTG to see what the threshold is for getting only one caller. Make sure you balance it with your whole range.
@@supersmoo7377 GTO balance is pointless against bad players. The only reason to ever balance is to prevent aware opponents from exploiting you. Just keep fileting fish forever, there's no need to balance against bad players with bad ranges.
think about this: if you open larger with a premium hand and you get many callers, SPR is much lower (less than 5 in your example), so you can stack off wider (i.e. AA and KK don't get cracked as much) ;)
St. Louis future poker pro would like to thank you for all the info you take the time to put out. Hopefully one day I can level up enough to be able to rub elbows with greats like yourself. Until then I’ll keep studying. You and your family stay blessed my man. Peace
Great info here! my only suggestion is that you talk very fast. SLOW down imagine you have never heard this info before.... :) good players have to internalize what you are saying....
One thing I target that I see all the time at my local casino is to look for short stacks. It's not always a perfect indicator, but what I very commonly see is players who have been stacked once and are chasing to get their money back will buy in a second, third, fourth time, but each time with a small stack. And these players are real easy to play against
I purposefully but short to exploit deep stack players. Usually within two hours I'm playing full 200bb stack size. Too many deep stacked players make marginal calls against short stackers. I average close $52 hourly using this method at my local brick n mortar. Covid killed the poker room sadly so I'm stuck online which makes it easier to effectively hit and run tables while short stacked. It's at a point where online regs see me sit down and sit out to avoid giving me action knowing I will double up leave the table move to the next one of the several multi tables they have open.
@@justinhunstad1760 thanks for sharing this strategy, since I always buy as deep as possible I hadn't considered thinking of it from this perspective. Great to know
The games I play it seems players just go all-in when faced with a re-raise. Calling to see a flop is way underrated, it's a balance. Clearly raising your better hands makes good sense mathematically. Calling should always be calculated against pot odds, and the current strength of your hand and how likely it is to hit your draw. Limp/calling to over agressive players is a bit of an art, but you are always in position against an aggressive player.
I love your content. Excellent stuff. I disagree however with your early position raising with big hands. A vast majority of the time on lower stakes games it’s extremely profitable to limp reraise. The majority of players will set mine and call incorrectly without correct odds. What you’re saying is better suited for the bigger games. I will never say I know more than you but I always profit off that simple limp and reraise early with kk or aa. Almost always with good results.
Should point out that raising 3x preflop at a 1/2 or 1/3 table is ridiculous and disastrous. Guarantee 4-6 callers everytime. Don’t follow this advice. Size your raise according to what the general raise at the table seems to be.
Way too choppy . I would guess most would appreciate if you spaced your words out , took a breath every once in a while, add some better graphics. If I wanted to be shouted at I’d join the military . Great info , but near impossible for me to listen to. Chill breh .
Always folding the small blind probably isn't great. You wanna defend your blind sometimes because if you don't and you're up against tough villains, they'll take advantage of your overfolding and bluff you off the pot with literal garbage.
In a live 1/2 cash game, with 3 (or 4) limpers, if you make it 13$ you are going to get called in all spots, plus some cold callers. Maybe it shouldn’t happen that way, but it will. I agree with your math and everything you are saying in principle, but if your goal is to get less players in that pot, you better make it 25+. Even then if you get a cold caller, 75% of those limpers are likely to call you.
It all depends on where you play and what time of day. There are some games in which $13 is a large raise, and some in which it’s a small raise; it’s your job as a poker player to discern which type of game you’re in. Generally, you don’t want to go super-multi-way when you can.
None of which invalidates what I stated above. I’ve been playing for 15 years. I’ve played all over. Only online do people raise to 6 or 7$ in a 1/2 game. Obviously you don’t want to go multi way. It’s implied by what I stated originally. 13$ in that configuration isn’t going to get the job done. I’m sure, somewhere, there is a game out there where it might, but it’s an outlier.
@Jesters_Thorny_Crown if you've been playing for 15 years are are still playing 1/2, aren't you the exact type of player he was speaking about when he said "don't model your game after losing players, because winning players will have moved up in stakes"? Do you wonder if maybe, just maybe this type of mentality and gameplay is what has you hardstuck at the lowest level?
i wish i could like these videos 2x. ive been landing in the money more than not in the tourneys im entering now in large part to 3 sources, this being at the front of them. thank you @jonathan little
Yea but... I make it 13BB lets say with vs 4 limpers and literally every single one calls me, gets a stupid lucky flop with their garb age any 2 card hand and I lose lol
If you’re a losing playing, you’re doing something wrong and you must pinpoint what it is to become a profiting player. There are players who make a living playing live cash games. So what are you doing wrong?
It's fine. Just give up and move on. Don't get too sticky when you miss the flop multiway. Didn't you listen to lil John's advice here? If you raise with a stronger range than those callers, you are gonna make a lot of money in the long run.
