Mastering Your Church Pedalboard 

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There are a lot of cables! The benefit of the switcher is that you could isolate failures a lot more easily and are able to bypass it

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Chris Hepburn There’s actually quite a bit of slack in some of the cables for adjustments and with the top mounted jacks you could conceivably move to any orientation for Power or audio.

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I agree, or at least a 4X tapped off a 12 volt dc from the True Tone to allow 4 more 500mA outs. And dual-lock tape it under the riser.

The Zuma wouldn’t change the necessity for a second power supply. I like the Strymon stuff as well, but at the end of the day we would’ve needed two power supplies. I think they’re not necessarily better or worse, Truetone versus Strymon, it’s just a preferential thing - Since we already had the true tone CS12, we went with the true tone CS7 to complete.

Alex, see above

Vertex Effects just thinking with say using the Zuma with a few sharing or Zuma and an ojai would have saved the whole warranty voiding issue, still a super clean board

Andy Bassist having to purchase two new power supplies I think was the barrier, again this is totally safe if done properly!

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If you map it out before it goes down it’s easier to keep track - with low voltage there is less of an issue, but AC power is problematic if you don’t isolate it in terms of proximity.

Vertex Effects thanks!

We talked about this in the initial set up, it wasn’t a concern, you can cheat your foot off the board quite a bit and in all honesty the riser couldn’t go any further back, however you can see the volume pedal a little further toward the edge of the Pedalboard if needed

Yeah that seems like a really bad way to do it for sure

I agree. If he was to access the back of the ES8 there’s a chance he may accidentally make contact with the IEC socket. Still not sure why he didn’t use a Zuma/Ojai combo

I was just thinking the same thing

Good catch! You can’t see it obviously with the tear on top of it, but it has a clear iec cover to prevent getting an inadvertent zap ⚡️

Joshua, those are good power supplies to I don’t think that they’re necessarily better or worse, it’s really a preferential thing.

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Bob, you might’ve heard in the dialogue that I mention that I use this, however the B roll footage of the editors selected did not reflect post installation - it’s there! However, if the AC cord is zip tied, it would be difficult to provide friction and movement that could result in the insulator being damaged or risking a short.

@@VertexEffectsInc Wondering what cable grommet can be installed around a cable / inside the hole AFTER said cable was installed. Care to shed some light on this. Would love to find out more about those post installation cable protection solutions...

k m It was an editing error, sorry 😐 If you listen to the dialogue it says, something like, “I added a rubber grommet around the hole” - And I didn’t catch that what was shown was a shot of the initial layout of the mod where I was making sure that the length was right before I actually terminated and applied the grommets around the holes.

k m See 06:45 on the timestamp

@Vertex Effects thanks for pointing that out. If nothing else, this conversation highlights for a DIY’er to be aware of the issue. I am still AMAZED at how you get your cable runs so orderly. I cut and solder my cable to length, but my board is not even on the same planet as what you demonstrate.

Yes, you need to cover the unused outlet. I buy plugs from Keystone off of Mouser that fit any iec outlet

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The midi capability is being used for all of the pedals that accept MIDI. We didn’t want to sacrifice an instant access foot switch, or a preset foot switch for tap tempo, and preferred to have a global synchronized tap tempo on the bottom right.

Steven Petty answered this a few times in the comments - a cover was added after the testing process prior to the customer taking delivery.

I have the small Dunlop volume pedal like this and I’ve never had any problems with it.

Some can extend to two supplies without another IEC however they still are limited by the total available current of the main supply with the AC mains.

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Tom Tobin hahah, I think you’re doing just fine!

k m It was an editing error, sorry 😐 If you listen to the dialogue it says, something like, “I added rubber grommets around the hole” - And I didn’t catch that what was shown was a shot of the initial layout of the mod where I was making sure that the length was right before I actually terminated and applied the grommets around the holes.

No sorry, anything involving high voltage is a liability nightmare!

Depends on the church I guess

For a lot of players that are having to re-create some of the classics from Bethel music, Hillsong, etc. it requires similar if not exact gear to do it

@@VertexEffectsInc Okay I get! Well, there are no limitations to rig as long as it fits the board, right? Haha

Fett Wey Well said

I have a very similar pedal board. I don’t have all the drive pedals this one has because I have the OD200. But i never needed that much playing for Catholic Church services. Just a few effects, but once I started playing other worship music on stage playing the Bethel, Elevation Worship it requires specific BPM with the dotted eighth note delay, and they want you to play it like the recording so this is board is absolutely necessary. Awesome pedal board build, Mason!!

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There is a guitar input, and two outputs, mono (left), and stereo (right), labeled as such so it’s clear when Daniel is running mono where to plug in a single amp.

@@VertexEffectsInc OK, but if it's the same signal split/paralleled to two jacks labeled L & R, which is what it sounds like you're describing, it's not actually stereo since both output jacks have exactly the same signal.

fretbuzz59 most modern delays and reverbs can send different signals and effects to each output creating a stereo effect. Also a popular practice is running two different amps simultaneously for a nice blend of tones

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Vince DiGioia check out the GoodWood Audio junction interface bro!! 💪🏽

None that I can recommend, you could build the 1-2 effects loops thing very easily yourself - the interface should have an input and output buffer at minimum - best that’s commercially available is the Mesa Boogie Highwire.

There is a couple of things u have to consider. First off, NEVER daisy chain pedals that run with different voltage. You can run 2 pedals at 9 volt if one is 9V and the other is 9-18V in the same output. But NOT the other way around, you`ll fry your pedal if you run 12, 15 or 18 volt into a 9 volt pedal Secondly pedals ofc have no problems and stuff if u run everyone isolated. The thing ur mainly asking about is running two or more pedals on the same output. The thing u have to do is look at the output in terms of milliamps. (mA). A lot of power supplys typicly have 100mA isoltaed output. If u have two pedals that uses 25 and 37 mA u can easily have a daisy chain and put them on the same output. However some pedals use about a 100 mA and u would stuggle if u then hook up another one who uses 50 or something mA. This prisiple aplies inn all situations. So a 400mA could in theory power 4 pedals with 100 mA each. (this is pushing it though, but it will work) =) To figure out what ur pedal is using in terms of power. Just search for the pedal and add the words "current draw" and you should find an online manual or something telling you what they use! Hope this answered the question =)

@@madshauge6972 Thanks! I mostly understand the math regarding voltage and milliamps. But it's common to isolate to avoid noise problems and ground leak issues, etc. right? Which types of pedals benefit more from isolation (noise-wise, etc.), versus which types of pedals play nicely together when sharing non-isolated power?

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Not sure...might be more on your pickup and instrument than pedals.

Don't know, probably doesn't have enough current or voltage to feed the input of the EB power supply

I’m not sure of the amplifier, everything is in front of the amp

Theo Stiegler I use a Neutrik TRS shorting jack. I used a Hammond enclosure

You can control all parameters on the HX Stomp via the ES5. Ideally you’d use the five loops of the ES5 for your non MIDI stuff, ie analog drives, compressors, etc. and leave the HX outside is the ES5 since you can adjust and turn on and off via MIDI

Ah ok. I’ve been driving myself crazy trying to find something on RU-vid. And I knew that you’ve talked about midi before. So I figured I’d ask someone who actually knows what they are talking about lol. Thank you sir! I hope you and your family (and all of vertex) has a wonderful Christmas! Thanks Mason 🙏

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It could be done inside the ES8 however it would sacrifice a instant access loop and would sacrifice a preset.

@@VertexEffectsInc i have my mute button currently set as my tap tempo so i don't lose a preset number, but I've seen a lot of people use the quartz with the es8 and the rjm for set lists and I've wondered what the benefit of that is except for the tap tempo function like you've mentioned. The only thing I've come up with is if you use presets for tones verses song arrangements? and the set list and bpm is from the quartz so if you jump to a different tone preset that is maybe a complex configuration and midi commands on the fly you don't have to worry about the bpm. is this the main thought or am i missing something else?

Dustin Box There isn’t any benefit other than freeing up an extra switch

It depends, if the pedals are only being used for tap tempo or minimal force - there’s no danger, but I wouldn’t want to put a wah pedal on their or something that gets a lot of activity without the center support.

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profmartin1967 Have an all Guitar products always been pretty expensive for quality?

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It is still connected through midi along with the big sky

There’s a cover on them... you can get them here if you decide to do this - it will void your power supply warranty: www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Caplugs/IEC-14?qs=2WXlatMagcHVmVdItVXiqg%3D%3D&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1YjH36LQ7QIVuDytBh3a8A0JEAQYASABEgIjePD_BwE

Yes, if you solder to the internal lugs both IEC pins will be active...you either need to plug the IEC or you need to disconnect the IEC connector from the PCB and solder the wires to the PCB on PSU #2

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Sorry we only make them for the purposes of the RU-vid videos but they’re very simple to make if you have a drill press and the ability to solder. You can also check out the Mesa Boogie High Wire as an alternative or the Empress Buffer

Vertex Effects thank you! I like what your doing with the pedalboards. Learning a lot. Thank you for the videos.

No can do...we've been advised not to show AC stuff as you could hurt yourself if done incorrectly. Sorry!

Really! I thought that was just a coiley cable and a Marshall stack

@@VertexEffectsInc Well Woodstock 2019....

lowrence mayfield all preference man haha I have a: Volume pedal -> Fulldrive 2 -> Blues Driver -> Analog Delay -> DD-3 -> RV6. And I couldn’t be happier. The whole board all runs into a Joyo British sound when I have to run direct in PA, but is also very amp friendly (SS or Tube)

@@EPIXFLATZ Me too, i have a Joyo American Sound ad the end of the board followed by the Hughes and Kettner Red Box for when i play direct, i don't play in churches though. 😂😂😂

It's called "contempervant" ... A pedal board to match a contemporary and relevant church experience. 😇

We looked at all options and cheating the foot off the front makes it not so problematic and keeps it in the Pelican case we designed it around.

Blake Paul youtube search : Dan Huff and GIANT Studio Demo

Why Not thanks !! I knew I had heard it before and it was driving me crazy 😆

What’s the timestamp

it's not just Christians...

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Typically I like the Pelican stuff.

@@VertexEffectsInc me too, was there a specific pelican used for this board?

@@RobertNolan There was, I don't recall the model number, it was the larger size that's made for the Air Case as I recall that has wheels and a retractable handle

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What’s the timestamp?

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Bernard Sianipar Dann Huff, Giant

Bernard Sianipar so glad you dig it!

What if you need chorus, tremolo, flanger, phaser, vibe, etc. those would have to be separate pedals if not for presets?

You play for yourself too. I don't have good stuff for congregation, but for me also.

I know. I've been going to church my whole life and as far as I can tell, it only makes music and christianity worse. It's the epitomy of the 4 chord strummer.

I try to change my tones according to the song. I hope it gives the worshippers a great experience.

Rockish... like.. music in church. Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it...

Andrew Paul Chen some people like Jesus and pedals.

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This is the sacrifice you make in order to have it all compact as possible with lots of pedals. Also the switcher controls all pedals so once the settings are dialed in, you don't need to make many adjustments.

@@VertexEffectsInc I suppose some sacrifices have to be made. Ironically enough, I do enjoy this old school cluttered look, but I guess if it delivers, that's all that really matters. I did get some great placement ideas, so there's that, I suppose! Thanks!

Keith Holder It has a female plastic guard to match the IEC terminal heyco-products.com/en/power-components/turn-2-lock-components/iec-cover-caps-blind-hole-cover-material-ldpe-482

Worth a try I suppose

If you know of a power supply that could power all of these pedals, let me know - I think no matter which way you cut it you’re going to need to supplies.

@@VertexEffectsInc correct me if im wrong but could a strymon zuma and ojai not be chained together since they have the option to do so?

Shaun Duffy Sure, but if you already own these supplies why not use them

Hahahah!

David Poulton It would surprise you have any key modulation is that there are in a lot of CCM music, definitely it’s own beast to conquer for musicians coming from any style.

Do you have a monopoly on the glory of God? Who gave you gate-keeping privileges?

Ok

@@VertexEffectsInc lol what kinda passive aggressive comment is this, I just mean denmark has like pipe organs and old people

I haven’t found that to be true

Rohadt your the best player you know....no doubt

@@aaronready1 far from it.

Rohadt, go look up nigel hendroff, and him jamming with Joey Landreth and tell me Nigel "cant play"...

@@aaronready1 he is mediocre. plays with a lot of tension in both hands, and his sound is swimming in effects to cover shit up.

Lol ..i believe that he is smart marketing. Worship musicians are a large part of the music instrument and effects sales base.

WAYNE HARROD It’s true.

#1 - “worship musicians” may buy gear, but I’d bet that they buy gear because they’re musicians, and not because they’re theists #2 - might pull on some people with that shit, but it’s at least partially responsible for the fact that I don’t : use Kyser Capos; watch the 60-cycle hum podcast; own any Wampler pedals; buy much gear from Sweetwater .... the list goes on. Keep it secular, please. I’d bet that the musician market share is significantly less Christian than the general public.

How is this pandering to the religious?

👆stupid questions won’t be replied to in the future