Masters Finals 2023 Pokémon World Championships TORD REKLEV VS VANCE KELLEY 

This was also my initial thoughts. But I realized they need to follow a strict schedule since VGC will come up next.

@@Superaalleexx that's true but I don't think anybody will complain about 10 or 15 minutes more. Some other matches were pretty short

Maybe they can rethink the schedule next year. Hate to see this sort of ending but they need to stay on schedule 😢

@@Superaalleexx Yeah I get why they have time in place generally speaking, although if you think about it, they have 75 minutes +3 additional turns & sudden death in finals right? But the thing is, once time is called, they played infinitely slower because they can to think of the best play, right? So logically speaking they spent so much time additionally after time was over (around 20ish minutes), it makes you wonder why there even is time in the finals in the first place haha.

They really need to rethink time rules for finals matches. I think we all wanted to see this match play through with such top caliber players.

Right? I can’t stop shaking when I’m at the pointy end of a match when it’s just a local weekly standard tournament. I don’t know how they can do it when the stakes are so high. It’s impressive

Fr I have ADHD and anger issues, also no patient so yeah this is relatable

@@theboss_ytplayzshorts9394 lol my anger issues are true asf

@@luxs2103 true🤣🤣🫡

True😂

As a new fan to the competitive TCG, I have to agree. The calibre of play here is so high and the lines of play that emerge are so compelling. While there is something cool about playing differently because you know you're on your last turn, it is unsatisfying to not see game point in a 1 and 1 match get played all the way through.

its for control, u could literally stall forever and never get a result :)

Amen

what did he do? sorry i am new to tcg :)

@@AlbinKottaram multiple examples of strategic Slowplay from him over the years

@@AlbinKottaram He has slowplayed, stacked and had terrible sportsmanship on multiple occasions

Mew VM used Cross Fusion Strike, which copies Genesect V's Techno Blast, however after using it that Pokemon can't attack on it's next turn. In order to reset the attack he has to retreat (Mew has no retreat cost) and then use Switch Cart to get his Mew VM with the energy cards back in the Active slot and then use Genesect's Techno Blast again

In my opinion, its just like Pikachu&zekrom gx, too strong even countered. Only rotation was enough to remove it from standart.

@@matusfunfalek6642 yeah i guess i would say there's comparisons but looking at it from a game design perspective, its got so much more to offer than pikarom. the fusion strike toolbox nature of the deck allowing you to use several attacks with 1 mon that has 310 hp and can attack for 1 attachment and KO anything in the format and draw as many cards as it wants. In mews early days, it was obviously the BDIF being the flagship deck of fusion strike but it went further than that. There was literally not a single deck in the entire format that you could build that had a win % above .500 against mew. Dark decks aren't an issue because mew outpaces everything. It's a consistency monster. you might as well start the game 4 prizes to 6 with how quick it gets 2 prize KOs. plus its got a shred attack and a 1 prizer that can hit for 360dmg on turn 2 if it really wanted to. fusion strike was everything i hate about the tcg. a prebuilt broken deck designed to dominate. in conclusion, they just gave mew too much in it's kit.

Time to start packing those Spiritomb

They look like the shiny flip coins you get from PKMN starter deck/boxes. They let everyone know Genesect has used its draw ability for that turn.

If the timer goes to zero there are 3 turns added, and after these three turns are over, if they cant finish the game, you check who has taken more prize cards which Vince has after he had knocked out the Zacian. Sidenote: If both players have taken the same amount of prizes after the added 3 turns, a winner is decided in a sudden death game.

@@NikPkmn Thank you for providing some clarification!

Mew 😍

​@@sputacus2864spiritomb

Lost zone deck best deck, Comfey LOR, Dragonite V PR-SW and Colress's Experiment LOR.

LMAO🤣🤣🤣

Yeah, it's insane how little prize money they get compared to other TCGs.

What other TCGs outside of MTG, exactly? It's not like Konami or Bandai rewards any prize money at all.

@@Lox4013 Flesh and Blood?

@@WorldofBlub meanwhile Yugioh gets $0 LOL

@@AngryAyrab Rip 😂

I mean I beat mew EVERY SINGLE TIME. I use drapion all the time and it's so good when I get paired against that deck because I just feel good I'm gonna get a free dub😂

@@derekjeter3654there are a lot of them online so that definitely makes sense but in tournament I don't think there are as many so it's kind of like a dead card unless you're a turbo lost box

@@derekjeter3654 the reason why mew won was because players didn't respect mew as much as before not many of them played drapion v

Ikr

Tord would hav ez won if it wasn’t for thme

Me too! The 2022 ones are so fun!

Vmax Rules When Pokemon knock out opponent take 3 prize

Right.. I’m trying to learn so I can play with my kid.. but god damn I’m not getting it

Cause.. Its childrens card game

The problem was the time was zero so that means after three turns they go to sudden death and the person who takes more prizes win. Tord could have won but this Vance guy found the ONLY COPY of path to the peak and the ONLY COPY of iono at the PERFECT TIME and he messed up his hand and Tord unfortunately could not find stadium nor lost vacuums and in top of that he had 2 RALTS in the prizes so many things had to happen so tord lose and indeed they happened but thats how this game works

@@derekjeter3654 rules are rules also they both play so slow so that why they have a timer

@@derekjeter3654 ranting about the most consistent deck is wack

He is continuity making actions. You have no idea what your talking about. 😅

Nah you just impatient. The deck takes a lot of thinking and he never stopped making actions.

If they were consistent they would've given a warning at least. Someone a couple rounds earlier got a 2 prize penalty and was playing faster than Tord. Forgot his name, but it lost him the match.

@@AstoundLikesWoW no. He had a break of not doing anything for like 20 seconds. Tord wasn't having breaks of actions like that.

Tord was robbed. This guy won cuz of the dumb sudden death ruling

In reality, you know the one we live in Tord lost lol move on

again no one expected to go against mew so i believe in his mind if would had been a waste of space in other match ups

or you know, tord could just have played a little faster

I did. I called it that new would win worlds. Tord has made his mark already so I went with the underdog. I originally wanted Azul to take the whole thing

Mew is the most boring, one set deck in format. Honestly proof that spiritomb is not that good of an answer to mew. Violence is the answer, bring a Drapion V

It s probably because it s the world championship, in other tournament we have some other casters that really describes the effect of the cards, here they are describing the gameplan so it s little bit better for average players

Yeah, I mean Vance played exceptionally well, especially in the face of pressure and opponent - nobody should ever discredit that because they're a fan of the other player. I was personally rooting for Tord because I've known him for so long & seen the long-term success, seeing him come so close to winning EUIC and just falling short to see it happen again in time (which of course, is nobodies fault both players have to think and have to make plays etc) was a sad one. But without a doubt Vance is deserving and did a great job to get from Day 1 to get there!

@@Scytheology I respect that! Of course cheer for your buddies and hope for their success, it’s just the people basically saying Vance’s win wasn’t deserved. I don’t know the person personally but to try and take away a valid win from someone at the world championship is pretty wack. Tord is a great player and it was close. Giving respect to both players is what people should be doing.

100% @@spookyvampyre

​@@spookyvampyreyou are just a poor little man who never are and never will be as cool as tord. Touch grass dude and learn to be cool like tord

​@@Scytheologyofc Vance wins was not clean. He won because the rule of the dumb sudden death. If they play without that rule tord would have won clearly. Tord was robbed but I feel good because I know tord won

He doesn't deserve that win. I'm so upset he won because of sudden death

@@derekjeter3654 lmao yeah clearly you're a good judge of deservedness when you're talking shit in a youtube comment section. Truly you are the superior intellect.

@@derekjeter3654 copium

Vance did great

@@derekjeter3654 cope

For the last turns of the game, they do a turn based system. It's starts with turn 0, turn 1, turn 2, turn 3. Vance won on turn 3 because he had more prizes taken during the turn clock.

Cause tcg time ruling is dumb. Cannot implement game clock instead both player share the same time and there is a 3 turn final countdown

​@@lumwenkang6806If there was a game clock Tord would have lost during G2, he plays slow and never gets a warning for it

Dude Vance had a shitty start for mew/genesect, but he pulled out a win anyways so good for him.

Spoiler he doesn't.

Tord won in my mind. This guy won for a dumb rule

@@derekjeter3654 rules exist for a reason also accept it and hope he can win next year

@@derekjeter3654 Tell Tord to play faster next time.

@@pjcgaming9548 bruh are you kidding...Vance played slow too. With that much on the line who wouldn't. Get rid of a timer for finals

Fr tho. I’m so confused.

Ofc tord had to win but ofc the rules of this game had to give the win to the fastest deck

vance won fairly 👏♥️ great game tho

@@tm2035 he didn't win. Sudden death rules win

@@derekjeter3654 yeah, and for that he won

Because Genesect has 190. Oricorio only protects 20 damage so it is still a KO.

@@jeremyarcus-goldberg9543 Oops! I thought it was 210. The live-updating hp on tcg live confused me, I guess. Thanks!

@@Gna-rn7zx TCG Live does a bunch of things that end making the game more confusing for me. Sometimes I can't read part of a card to find out what my attack options are!

If your opponent shuffles your deck instead of cutting, you're allowed to cut it in the pokemon tcg.

Final cut means just that - final CUT, not final shuffle. It's the best rule to prevent either player from stacking either their own or their opponent's deck. After you shuffle your deck, you have to present it to the opponent. If they cut it, that's the end. If they shuffle it, you get to cut it, and that's the end. If you had to accept your opponent shuffling your deck without a cut, they could easily see a bad card and put it on top of your deck, or see a good card and put it on the bottom.

Tord won if not the dumb rule of sudden death. Tord in reality won.

@@derekjeter3654 Tord himself won top 8 in time so?

​@@dankpepe8741Sssh, don't tell them🤫 Don't tell them that if Tord wins the first game, he usually stalls the living hell out of the second and rarely gets punished for slowplaying just because he's too famous to get an adverse judge call 🤫

Dude you are actually right. Tord could have definitely won if he play faster

He for sure could have won. Hopefully he changes up how he plays a little.

He plays like a coward

Yes, most of his 50 min BO3s don't even finish 2 games. Yet he's never given warnings for slow play