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"Mathews PHASE 4" 33 Breakdown and BUILD - Dan Staton and MFJJ aka Josh Jones of @Podium Archer build the brand new Mathews Phase 4 bow. This is the Mathews Phase 4 early launch. We had a chance to build it, and bring the audience along for the total build start to finish. The boys go through their thoughts about the new Phase 4 33 as well build it. #elkshape #bowbuild #mathews
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@drested1793 Год назад

You know what needs to be done? Take a V3X and put some limb savers on it, shoot it against this new Phase 4 in a controlled environment with a decibel meter.

@10flyingdutchman Год назад

I second this motion.

@cwilson80 Год назад

Dan, A lot of noise out there is people wondering if the “rubber” between the limbs will break down over time. I’ve personally seen harmonic dampers break down over time. After talking to Mark Hayes do you have insight into this? Love the channel….Thanks!

@Thedudeabides803 Год назад

If you can pay $3000 for the bow with accessories, so what if the bows plastic breaks down. You’re obviously rich so just buy another one 😉

@colbymcgary4339 Год назад

I appreciate your willingness to put your goals out there to hold yourself accountable! Shooting indoor has changed the way I shoot for the better for sure!

@DB.KOOPER Год назад

Glad to see you guys together again. I know there's long history but after the TAC videos I got this weird feeling tha tmaybe the Elk Shape guys and MFJJ had had a little falling out so... awesome to see you guys back together giving us this great look at one hell of a new bow. I bought a V3X 33 last year and while I'd love to try the new Phase 4 I'm still so incredibly in love with the V3X... although I could see wanting a P4 29" LOL. My wallet hates me.

@alexjones519 Год назад

Thanks for the reviews dudes.

@dougieripley2095 Год назад

Mathews are improving the wheel every year! I can't afford to buy a new bow every year but when it comes time to get a new bow it is nice to know that the technology will get better every year till then. 🙂

@gminter8402 Год назад

You know for a fact last year someone in a meeting said "hey, let's run the sight and stab through a machined pocket.". Somebody else "nah, nah, nah, calm down. We'll do the sight only then save the stab for next year. So it's new."

@anthonyortiz32 Год назад

Bought V3X two weeks ago, and shot the Phase 4 today. It is quieter, and felt really good with less vibration.

@TheWVgoodguy22 Год назад

The man cave is epic in every way. For me at 6’ 255lbs with a 29.5 in draw the 33 is the one I would definitely go with. I have only had two bows in my 39 years of life and they both are 33 ATA bows. 😎🏹

@Cody_Austin Год назад

Your body weight has nothing to do with anything but you must be really proud of that BMI 😂

@TheWVgoodguy22 Год назад

@@Cody_Austin I know that it doesn’t, even though a bigger guy is usually more broad across the chest than a 175 lb guy of the same height. No I need and want to lose 30 lbs.

@Milkywayboy Год назад

@@Cody_Austinno need to be a dick

@rippinlip23 Год назад

And heavier arrows can quiet down a bow as well. Is that a factor that doesn't get factored?

@dereksisson2133 Год назад

The more sleek look is awesome. Everything is tied into the riser. I bet you can move through the woods without the worry of snagging on debris. Wish I could upgrade from the v3 27

@raymondtapatu6869 Год назад

Pretty good upgrades I must admit well done to Mathew’s thanks for your opinions guys appreciate you ❤👍🤘🤙👊

@ducatimidnight594 Год назад

Hello from va. If the limb pockets are the same can you order these limbs and put them on a v3x ? 😈

@RKeaton Год назад

love the cave setup. And the editing is engaging and interesting on this one. Nice work.

@patrickjoy9551 Год назад

Kudos for being able to say this stuff 😂with a straight face. I have shot both (I own a V3X) and there is NO discernable difference. Now if you have an older bow this is a great upgrade but to say its an upgrade to the V3X is well hilarious.

@ElkShape Год назад

You are entitled to your opinion. -Dan

@TheHYENA87 Год назад

Patrick, I still can't really tell a difference from the triax 🤣

@saskhuntsman2980 Год назад

These bows are sick!

@jeremyrobinette2563 Год назад

Still rocking the VXR. I love the V3X and I hear you about the Phase 4 and why it’s better. For those of us that do not get a new bow every year. Would you have any concerns about having 8 limbs or wear and tear on the rubber between the limbs? Also I’ve heard great things about GAS my local shop however will only use ABB strings. They also won’t do trade ins on used bows. Need some insight if you don’t mind.

@IntrinsicRoots Год назад

Saw a comment on one of mfjj’s last videos regarding how well the rubber between the limbs will hold up over time. Interested to see an update after a year. Love the content brother. Cheers🥂

@jasonbarnes3188 Год назад

About as well as the rubber on your engine mounts hold up on your truck. I have never changed one on any of my vehicles. If rubber holds up to that abuse putting in bow limbs won’t be a problem.

@kenraterink Год назад

Why so expensive tho?? 250 for a quiver, 250 for stabilizer... hard pass

@shadmeacham3164 Год назад

Who is the seahawks fan? Couldn't help but notice the coffee cup and flag. Also new bow is sweet but I say that every year. Until I see a major change/upgrade though. I will keep shooting my helim which is still my favorite!

@jwild5360 Год назад

Nice work guys. I’d just point out that the D loop length has nothing to do with the draw length of the bow. Big miss conception that if you shoot a short loop or short neck release that your bows draw length should change.

@robbiewilson3922 Год назад

Interested to hear yours and MFJJ’s opinion on pricing for the stabilizer set up.. $700 is a steep price for the blue collar crowd.

@ElkShape Год назад

It is higher end. You can still go traditional route

@Growbrojay Год назад

I wonder how long that rubber between the limbs will last, especially for the guys who shoot a ton in all conditions.

@ElkShape Год назад

It’s a valid question.. we have no way to know until we get down the road

@Growbrojay Год назад

@@ElkShape is the rubber just pressed in between the limbs or is glued to the limbs then pressed? Do you happen to know that?

@teddewing4338 Год назад

Certainly this topic must have been covered in the podcast with Mathews.

@hunterdolanch8725 Год назад

I wonder if it will shoot the same on a January hunt that is 0 degrees as it did on a August practice session. From the reviews everyone talks about quietness and deadness. No one sponsored by Mathews says anything about it being the most accurate bow to date.

@jonesoutdoors9901 Год назад

@@hunterdolanch8725 I believe it will be just as accurate….no part of the pressure is put on the rubber, it is put on the limbs, cams, strings, cables etc….the rubber is for dampening the sound of the shot.

@lindesylittlechief9056 Год назад

Peanut butter and jelly or elk steak and potatoes you guys are work great together and apart key works in the video relationship hahaha

@robertbrowning9343 Год назад

Hay Dan I noticed you tied your rest cord to your cable but never had before was just wondering how you like that? If you notice any abnormal noise or wear? Thx loving the new bows that came out but for now I’m going to stick with my vxr until I can afford a new one. Keep up the great content.

@kevinburrall Год назад

Have any you boys running the epsilon rest had issues with the cord catching on the Mathews quiver? It’s only happened a few times to me. Twice I notice it and fixed it. Once I didn’t and when I shot it sent my arrow almost straight into the dirt.

@patrickscheel3943 Год назад

Has anyone heard word about any long draw bows coming out? If not from Matthews then who else this year?

@Vintage-406 Год назад

This is the opinion from a happy V3 owner…. They are all the same. Mathew’s has made marginal changes and additions each year. Normally that makes for a drastically different product 4,5,6 years down the road. However, the VXR, V3, V3X and now the Phase 4 are essentially the same bow. They’ve said so themselves… same cams. same axle to axle (+,- an inch or so) same speeds (advertised) same weight. Same tuning system. Currently we are advertising this is quieter with the inline system… but no data other than “it seems like it, cuz I shot next to a guy and his was louder” I love my Mathew’s but personally don’t see a reason to get a new one every year as the average archer/hunter. The amount of time to set the bow up correctly. allow the strings to settle in. Tune each arrow for the bow, sight in pins, sight in sight tape, re-sight in pins and sight tapes once the bow shoots in. Re-tune the bow cuz your strings have stretched, etc. It just doesn’t make sense chasing your tail like that year after year. Until Mathew’s can sell a bow that you don’t have to immediately swap out the strings on, increase the speed, or increase the poundage, change the material to carbon or something drastic like that. At this point there doesn’t seem like an advantage to buying a new one. The average, above average hunter/ shooter who shoots more than 1 but less than 100 arrows each day would be better suited knowing all the intricacies and behaviors of his current set up rather than buying new just to spend twice as much on a new stabilizer.

@drested1793 Год назад

“I don’t watch football anymore.” I hear that, I don’t know if our reasons are the same but probably are.

@cordellnebeker9748 Год назад

I don’t mean to be controversial, but having less sound and vibration make a difference in real world hunting applications? This is a genuine question. Last year Mike’s Archery tested almost all the major brand bows with a decibel meter. The V3X was 91 and I believe the Hoyt was 97. Did Mathew’s bows kill more animals because they were quieter?

@jasonbarnes3188 Год назад

No they killed more animals because they sold three times as many bows.

@jeffreyknox3676 Год назад

What length stabalizers are you running on your 29 and 33?

@toddiej15 Год назад

Can you use the stay at field cable to swap out new strings/cables?

@tonyallen8626 Год назад

Heavy arrows help with keeping your bow quite and I know Josh love's using really heavy arrows because lite arrows won't go through shoulder bones, I think he said a minimum weight of 700gpi or something like that ¿

@braedonbeesley3953 Год назад

Why did you put a quiver on your 33 if it’s a target bow for you?

@jasonbarnes3188 Год назад

What is a problem with all manufacturers across the board, is pricing the phase 4 with all the Mathews accessories. You’re looking at close to 3 grand or more depending on how you set up your bow. They need to remember who the majority of there customers are. And with hunting property becoming harder to acquire. And rising inflation how many are going to drop that kind of money on a bow. I have a v3x 33 as well as two Mathews vertix. So no need for a phase 4 here. This year I am going to try one of bears models priced with the average hunter in mind. Put some good strings and cables and accessories on it and see how it performs. No reason to have to spend what they are wanting for these bows.

@Growbrojay Год назад

Where can we find the podcast at where you spoke with the mathews engineer?

@stromdiddily9166 Год назад

Saw you mention that the sight extension showed your torque so you bring it way in....brother that doesn't eliminate the torque it just eliminates your ability to see it.

@richardganz9318 Год назад

Are the TOP hats the same as the old bows ? thx

@riverman4179 Год назад

Just changed my strings and cables last night yes take pictures lol

@joshheckman6177 Год назад

What’s your string color combo on the 29? What brand are they?

@jasonanders6446 Год назад

That was my first concern in how is the rubber between the limbs gonna hold up after a couple seasons hunting in different elements?

@ElkShape Год назад

Won’t know until we use them

@honeybadger8501 Год назад

I wish they would make these new bows in a bit longer draw

@chickimac1 Год назад

They need to do rotating modules. Everyone else is doing it and saves money, instead of having to buy modules

@dallinwilliams5633 Год назад

Rattlecan one of them!!!

@ElkShape Год назад

I think I’m fixing to (tc)

@dallinwilliams5633 Год назад

@@ElkShape I thought the rattlecan 28 was sexy. I just rattlecanned my rifle and muzzleloader and they turned out awesome. Too scared to do it to the bow... yet... so I'll live vicariously through you haha. Great content guys.

@biscuitoutdoors8351 Год назад

So I have a 26” draw and shot this bow yesterday side by side with the rx7 and noticed that the Mathews peak weight is in the mid to end of my draw cycle and the Hoyt was in the beginning. Both set at 70 pounds I couldn’t even draw the Mathews back. That something you experienced too?

@ETHAN_STRENN Год назад

That’s generally how Mathew’s makes their bows and how Hoyt make their bows

@biscuitoutdoors8351 Год назад

Just seems like Matthew’s isn’t geared to the shorter draw people. It’s definitely a noticeable difference because I can’t get much leverage so far back in the cycle to pull the cams over. Love just about everything else about them but that cycle is killing it for me

@tonyallen8626 Год назад

I would seriously pay to be taught how to make strings by mfjj

@seantimmerman2360 Год назад

I like how you say it’s impossible to be inaccurate 😂 but we still shoot dirt

@marceide5369 Год назад

I just picked mine up a few minutes ago. Any clue if V3X-33 strings will fit on PH4-33?

@marceide5369 Год назад

My question was answered at 0:38 lol (Yes they fit)

@HopeGamerBrand Год назад

Honestly I think this new bow is lit. Doesn’t matter, I like the design. I think people are just reluctant to buy another bow but if you were a cave man and someone handed you this bow you would be stoked!!!

@mattthadd4663 Год назад

So if Tim dry fires this year, his limbs are gonna be more prone to blowing up. Timmy, beware. Haha

@Mackahroney Год назад

Was making fun of tim and i pulled back at a 3d shoot but didnt dry fire haha i just immediately thought of tim and laughed

@mattthadd4663 Год назад

@@Mackahroney yeah. It happens haha

@traditionalbowhunter5862 Год назад

ill give it to Mathews, they have the best marketing in the industry....lol. they will convince people in droves to believe their BS.

@shmavo Год назад

Come out to colorado for the best of the best 3d tournament

@tylercarder581 Год назад

Dear MFJJ. Please put a black Phase 4 on your eBay store so I can use Klarna to purchase it. Thank you. 😅🙏

@jasonbarnes3188 Год назад

All these people complaining about these bows who have never held let alone shot one. Want bow companies to come up with a totally different design every year. Folks those days are over. All the top manufacturers are doing the same thing making small incremental improvements on proven platforms. Look at Hoyt’s innovation this year the came out with monkey tails. Mathews is the only bow on the planet you can shoot from 60 to 75 pounds without touching a limb bolt. So you can keep your limbs bottomed out where you’re bow is most efficient. With the switch weight mods you can change your draw weight, length, and let off. No cheesy little rotating mods. And stops you have to move. The top hat system is bullet proof and once it’s set it cannot move unlike other manufacturers. Please look at how many little 5 cent spacers are between the cam and limbs on other bows. Worse than that try changing out a cam on one so you can see what a pia it is. It will make you love top hats. Look at the resale value on a Mathews compared to other used bows. If it’s not Mathews or Hoyt you can’t hardly give them away. Mathews is still leading the game in every category. If you want rotating mods and super adjustable bows. Mathews puts those where they belong on there mission youth bows.

@bowshott007 Год назад

Hope MFJJ picks me for the phase 4 33 giveaway on his channel. I need a new bow.

@marshallmartin267 Год назад

Whats the specs on your Gas strings? Color, etc

@jackbuendgen389 Год назад

I think in a previous video he said he got the Ghost strings from GAS

@chrississon2646 Год назад

Lol , rubber coating between limbs , won't hold up in Ga. weather

@_DeFiNiTeLy_Not_BrAd_ Год назад

The new stabilizer situation is a gimmick for most of us poors. I can get an entire bar setup for the cost of one of their stabs.

@jons7e Год назад

Long story short.... just take it to MFJJ

@jacobbrantley3277 Год назад

Where is his bow shop located? Like to order a bow from him.

@bamabowhunter8499 Год назад

Spokane Washington

@davidhoward7691 Год назад

Bowtech is the company making real innovations in tuning and tech. With that opinion said, Seahawks this year are very enjoyable to watch. Good riddance to Russ.

@drmitofit2673 Год назад

So dead and quiet, yet you are obliged to spend $500 on stabilizers for full effect.

@michaelb2076 Год назад

Faster speeds, different grip angle, different cams, different riser design??? Anyone of these, and they literally made a V3 2.0 Team Mathews, we're (hunters and archers alike) all behind you, but this seems like a flop. We LOVE the product you put out, but some diversity would be nice

@bigwestreviews4933 Год назад

This year was a total dud. I’m waiting for new cams since Mathews is about a decade behind on their cams. Frankly, mathews is in the business of selling accessories and not bows at this point.

@tuckermertens7665 Год назад

someone’s pressed lol

@jlipstraw45 Год назад

So their bows are plenty fast and shoot smooth how are they behind on their cams if the bow is one of if not the best shooting bows out, sales dont lie buddy they outsell everyone else by a long shot

@MotoMenace78 Год назад

I liked this year's bow. I am 15 and and getting the 2023 mathews image. It draws back and shoots a lot smother that the v3x 29. I tested a demo and got one ordered. Can't wait!!!

@joshuasweet1532 Год назад

I agree 💯 bro

@connor_bohnts Год назад

dude mathews is the makes the best bow on the planet. they are the best bow company because they have the such a good warranty. the bows are practically made out of diamond they are so tough. i encourage you to go shoot the v3x and phase 4. when you are done come back and apologize for jumping the gun and bashing mathews. ps you probably shoot darton

@hawaiiangunner Год назад

Does it go 400 fps? If not don't care.

@XXXston3wallXXX Год назад

ABT

@hunnerhall841 Год назад

Mathew’s needs mor adjustability

@XerGrizZz Год назад

I just got the mathews phase 4 33 in ambush green while I was there I also shot the v3x I went in thinking I was buying the v3x but once I shot the phase 4 after the v3x I was sold it is definitely noticeable shooting one right after another in my opinion great bow !

@ElkShape Год назад

Glad you’re enjoying!

@rogerrabbit4284 Год назад

Wake up call! The bear kuma rested by Sean’s outdoor adventures was 74 dB and this is 92dB , where is the progress ? Your having the wool pulled over your eyes and ears

@ducatimidnight594 Год назад

Hello from va. If the limb pockets are the same can you order these limbs and put them on a v3x ? 😈