The time only seems weird now cuz they are older and not jumping around like lunatics. If you go watch their 90's performances it's almost identical, but they are running around the stage the whole time.
@@incubrian I've really been working with metrone lately and I notice the band started pulling him faster on the guitar solo and he didn't hold them back. So the chorus at the end of the song is definitely faster than the first chorus. Matt Cameron is solid as a rock but also kinda boring as a rock to me. I do love his drumming in soundgarden some real cool stuff he played with them.
@@poohead8022 The OG Dave that played this on TEN killed it and the live versions just had a better energy .. it was funky, those 16th rolls on the hi hat are sick go back and listen.. this feels rushed and constipated
Matt Cameron probably plays the song at the exact bpm's the guys in the band ask him to play it. Those things are settled well before the gig, so I think it's not Matt's fault but Eddie/Mike asking.
It's not about the bpm but Matt just doesn't have that 'swing' feel or should I say 'funk' feel where Pearl Jam were big because of that style. It is called 'JAM' for reason though. Now when Matt behind the drum PJ sound like KISS. Like 70's rock band. I'm not saying he's a bad drummer, he just doesn't blend with the band. It's like Larry Carlton with Fourplay. The fans loved Lee Ritenour as so the old PJ fans love Dave A. Dave A can fill what empty space in the PJ song. Just listen to this Even Flow version, it felt stiff and cold not funk as like they played long a go with Dave A.
Hey Tribe... just to note. They're all different players than what they were 25 years ago. It is faster than the recorded version. And at a certain point, swing changes with tempo... different feel.
Matt's fills are so unique. He has this great habit of throwing in unexpected accents - his tone is also very recognizable. You know immediately when it's matt cameron drumming
Matt Cameron has always been my favorite drummer....met him once in miami in the early days of soundgarden at yesterday today records couldn't have been nicer..great drummer....
Keegan Dunphy Oh yeah, he was great. My favorite 90’s drummer is either Jimmy Chamberlin or Matt Cameron (for Soundgarden, not PJ) but there were a lot of great 90’s rock drummers.
Been reading some of the posts around the tempo and thought to weigh in. I've got about 30 years of experience playing drums both in live and studio gigs and experienced both sides of the situation. Sometimes a band will opt to play a song faster simply because it sounds (and feels) better in a live situation than at the original tempo is was recorded. We've also slowed songs down when played live to get a heavier feel as opposed to the original recorded tempo. I fully agree that "in the heat of the moment", tempos can and do get pushed (I'm certainly guilty of this in my gigs at times) but Matt is a seasoned pro; this is no doubt a conscious effort on the band's part to push the tempo. It's actually nice to see they have the freedom to do this since they aren't locked into a click track or sequencer for this song and just playing "live"! It's a good discussion though!
Crazy coincidence but he played Soundgarden songs at faster tempos live also. Especially “Black Hole Sun” being such a back beat, lazy feeling song, speeding it up really ruined it for me.
William Fotiou for sure. Just strange. Some songs sound good a little pepped up live. Not “Black Hole Sun” though. The songs identity lives within the sludgy tempo.
The “odd” time signature of Soundgarden is partly what made me fall in love with them. They’re so groovy. I was involved in some concert and marching percussion through high school and college, so I thought Soundgardens music was such a breath of fresh air from your standard 4/4 rock songs. Absolutely amazing
@@dakotajensen181 What he meant was that he wishes Pearl Jam could make more songs in the style that Matt Cameron was able to do in Soundgarden this had nothing to do with him going back
A ray ayotte era ( 1992 to 1998 ) ayotte customs made by hand in BC canada. Very sought after drums these days as Ayotte Drums are a shell ( hehe ) of what they used to be quality wise. My dream kit.
Dude, I’m a guitar player who plays other people’s drums from time to time when they’re left at my house. That’s my relationship to drums and even I know Matt Cameron is unbelievable. Wonderful precision without losing any feel. There’s a lot of Soundgarden songs where he’s doing some pretty tricky things too, always tastefully though. If I had to pick one drummer to build my own super group with I believe it would be MC.
I think you should add to that that he's probably a great friend to hang out with. All the Dave fan boys don't know if he's an asshole and impossible to tour with.
Yeah. It’s lacked since Cameron came in. It would be difficult to argue otherwise. Just think of Verses and Nocode. Those albums wouldn’t be the same. Cameron isn’t as tasty
@playlists - The original groove is great if you're stoned and listening to the song while laying on the couch. When you're at a high energy concert, the song would put people to sleep at its original tempo. Looks like the crowd in this video agrees with the way Pearl Jam is presently playing it live.
Nah he just isn’t the right sound for Pearl Jam’s songs. Pearl Jam should be loose, groovy, and dynamic. Matt has one setting which is loud and he is so damn up tight. Doesn’t help that all the live versions of pj songs are literally 200bpm all the time too.
Totally agree. Matt was suited perfectly for soundgarden, his ride work was incredible. But for the first pj album I really prefer Dave’s drumming. He was a fucking rock star
This is what I've been waiting for! Been into SG since the beginning, Matt is the finest modern rock drummer out there....wish there was more content of him doing his thing..so much to be learned from him. Thanks guys.
I have to agree with some of the comments here. When I listen to this guy it's like seeing black and white, great but black and white picture. When I listen to the drumming from the studio recording it's like I'm riding and swaying on the fucking rainbow of groove, dynamics and even the pure sound of the drum parts.
The studio recording nuances/subtleties can't be duplicated live, and it's too slow for a live show. Two choices, play it studio tempo and put people to sleep, or speed it up to add energy and keep people rockin'
I used to wonder if I was the only one who thinks they play Even Flow too fast live. Loses the groove that he studio version of the song was famous for.
The large K custom hybrid crash Matt uses on his right side is one of my favorite cymbals of all time. I have mine paired up with a 17” k dark on the left and the pair are just 🤤. Add a 21” k custom ride into the mix and you’re ready to take over the universe.
Too True Man,TOO DARN TRUE! I’m going to agree that this effort to speed up tempo is definitely not Matt Cameron’s alone.QUITE SURE COULD PLAY @ the Speed of the song when it was initially introduced. AND BE DARN GOOD AS WELL. SO NO ONE ELSE NEED MISS DAVE ABBRUZZESE, ARE WE CLEAR?
Matt Cameron is a great drummer no doubt. However, I have always preferred Abbruzzese with PJ. He just had a great groove and unique style with his hi hat and splash cymbal accents. Both excellent drummers, both very different.
@@joandrumz3176 Indeed! You reading this Eddie? You fucked up by firing Dave 30 years ago and now your band sucks. Time to swallow your pride and pick up the phone.
Completely agree. Those plates need some loving too... What's the rush?! Perfect drummer for Soungarden though... Love this guy, really do, but please bring Dave back for these songs....
I'm with you. I'll even deeper: respect all the way, but can't understand the fuzz about Matt. At least when playing this old stuff, I think he slaughters everything with this up tempo, it loses all the depth and feeling.
Dave is a jazz drummer now. I saw him at the Blue note in LA. Greg Bissonette did a great job teaching him and his had swing, not to be found in this version.
I’m a guitar player, but when watching and listening to other bands my eyes and ears are always on the drummer. That’s who you groove to. And Matt is one of the best
I think the drummer and the vocalist has the hardest job in the band, in my own opinion. Not saying Jeff awesome bass and Stone awesome guitarist and Mike McCready 🎸 totally incredible and of Boom's awesome B3 piano playing!! I truly love and appreciate all bands members. Thank you for sharing this awesome video 😊💓🤘✌️
Yes I agree drummers are my favourite band members and for me always the coolest haha but you're right this is hard job. Drummer always hiding in the back but if he make mistake everybody will see and hear. Drummers btw are real athletes playing for 3 hrs this is good workout. Sorry if I make mistakes not my first language 😅
I went to elementary/middle school with his son, he came to my baseball games and school concerts; pretty cool that he was such a chill guy and also one of the greatest drummers of all time
Slower is waaay better. The original album Dave Krusen version was pretty neutral (he had trouble recording it). They re-recorded it when Dave joined (it's the version that starts with Eddie's, "Waaaaahhhh," and that version is used for the "live" video, and the grooviest version.
Matt Cameron, descaracteriza todas as músicas antigas, nem fica parecendo a banda. Saudade de Dave abrussezze, ele sim tinha uma característica única e era brilhante.
Gotta love that Seattle Sound...Dave Grohl played his drum kit like he hated them for the Nirvana groove, and Matt can claim Soundgarden AND Pearl Jam heritage. What a legacy! 😮💯
The 1992 Dave version is my favorite version. That said, the comments suggest that 24 years later (this vid from 2016) even IF D.A. was playing this, that it should sound like that recording. Listen to other live versions of Dave playing it. Tempos vary and the feel of that recording is extremely hard to replicate it seems even around that same time frame. Not to mention these guys are in their 50s. The Krusen version apparently took over 50 takes and they still didn't like the one on the record. I have a solution though...if you are jonzing for some Dave A....instead of pining for 1992-1995, check out GRO and the stuff he did with Stevie Salas.
i believe this drum riser is the 1 All Access Staging & Productions [Torrance, CA] built for MC to his specs. Guess who got to set it up & break it down & make sure it fit correctly on the custom cart they made to go with it?😁 its really a brilliant, unique design, it has a custom sound baffle array that is made to absorb or dissipate sound from underneath. LIVE WIRE tour?
And why did he ruined this song, and almost all of the 3 first records??? He plays flat, no emotion at all, no details... He is an excellent average drummer, but his style is too flat. Dave A. and Jack Irons used to play with passion...
Nestas horas que a sensibilidade de um grande baterista aparece, pois enquanto existem os "frontmans" lá está cadenciando com suas viradas que fazem um dialogo perfeito, métrico e simples da Banda* Pearl Jam... Que venham mais vídeos como estes, sou guitarrista e, tocar com um baterista assim é um sonho.
Underrated by who? The body who arguably rates drummers recognizes this man as one of the best. Album sales and concert attendance makes your comment absurd. Your comment is so cliché that it appears beneath almost every music video on RU-vid. Maybe we should rate the morons who parrot your comment. You are one of a million dipshits. Congratulations!
Always felt like when watching Matt play in PJ, he kind looks like he wants to play in his Soundgarden style of drumming. Which obviously doesn’t work with Pearl Jam. His influences if I remember right in the rock genre revolve around people like Peter Criss, so really his feel of playing more straight forward rock songs like in PJ is probably more of a straight, fast nature, rather than a more Groovier style like Dave A
Fact. Dave A didn't record on 10. That was Dave Kruzen. So if you're liking the groove of the recording you're digging the wrong drummer. They've always played this song fast live. I've seen them when they were still called Mookie Blaylock.
funny u say - first flash for me is always Mookie Blaylock! (cuz i luved the Nets) i was into them pre Ten, they played here in montreal i remember their name on the marquee but i had late classes when was it bro summer - fall 1990 or so.
Tod Hobart You're mostly correct but there is an alternate version of Even Flow in which Dave A is playing the drums (it was released on their greatest hits album). It's so much better than the version released on Ten (I love that version too, though(.
I love Dave Krusen´s work on TEN. o discussion about that. But I´m fortunate to have a few songs re-recorded in studio with Dave Abbruzzese (Release and Deep, Alone), and is just another level...
