Matter is Frozen Light: Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogue 86 

When I was a little kid I told another little kid that if we pushed our two thumbs together, they would go through each other. He stayed away from me after that!

Yep, EVERYTHING is a force fielld. Including the sun and planets, etc. Including our thoughts and words.

We're all just out standing in our standing fields... ...with no particle place to be just amassing observations... (and where does the light come from in dreams?)

Doesn't that make you think that there's a creator behind all of creation 🤔

Constipation makes me question this.

I've begun to appreciate him more. He really adds to and helps faciltate this flow of thinking on profound connections in realms of spirituality & science. Just the fact that he gived a platform to and stimulates conversation inspiring Rupert to further expound on subject matter is valuable too. But I do think he brings up meaningful points as well, helping tie big concepts together in his own way.

There is. It's called the library. He has about a dozen books. 😂

Which is the posh one?

Vernon is clear to me

Vernon is unstructured in the architecture of the conversation, and continually interjects religious and ancient cultural nonsense. Perhaps he has a purpose, but it’s like having a game where you spin a wheel and change the subject, context or frame randomly.

They are wayyyy ahead of their TIME 😊😊 😃 of course mainstream "material" science are Never going to readily endorse this, they are just NOTTT ready for this stuff 😃 !

What were you thinking back then in your 20's about this stuff

Too much LSD. 😂. Had a book on light from the library and it just popped into my head. Long time ago now.

@@jasonvaughan5128 A scientific book? Philosophical book? Religious book?

👀

i suppose if you spell it breese, lots of things are refreshing.

Breeze is spelled with a z.

.... and I love Rupert Sheldrake too!! fascinating interview 🎉❤

David Bohm is wonderful, he used to collaborate with jiddu Krishnamurthy and have many discussions of both . ❤

I’m aware tangentially of his work but have never yet had the opportunity to study or even read it

@@cynshim673The Ending of Time is an incredible publication of their conversations and I wish that Bohm and Krishnamurti had lived long enough to witness this moment in theoretical physics, the study of consciousness, Analytic Idealism, AI, advances in neuroscience and genetics….the list goes on.

Matter is more accurately described as a dielectric condensate ;)

Whoa... be thy soul? What are you? 400 years old?

@@mavrosyvannah I am extremely Ancient ! Thanks for the compliment !

There is no soul. There are no blessings. Grow up.

and? overly simplistic explanations involve sloppy, mediocre minds. you have made science (and slave-like obedience) your religion.

@@JillFreeman-kb4ih touch grass and maybe see a therapist

@@JillFreeman-kb4ih You're lame, and hating on simplicity. Boo! Plus if you can't state it simply it's because you don't understand it well enough.

If you have been in a dark forest in the spring or summer with minimal direct sunlight have you noticed a seemingly non typical hydrotropism (not root movement) of small plants and even low limbs of tree saplings being drawn down to the flowing water of a stream? I've seen it many times and have contemplated there being some matrix/entrapment holding photons within the flowing water that is drawing the leaves to the water as the source for light. Seemingly the root system would be supplying ample water, so why else would these greeneries being pulled to the flowing water?

Too bad its scientifically innacurate.

@@Will-fj9gy where did you get your P.H. D. In physics?

@@babbarr77 Where did rupert sheldrake? Thats called an argument from authority and its a logical fallacy. Particly physics isnt some wishy washy bullshit, matter isnt frozen light any more than its melted radio waves.

@@Will-fj9gy Nu Number one, you are not an authority. Number two, as Vajrayana Buddhist for fifty years, it makes sense to me, which is what matters, not your opinion.

@@babbarr77 That makes sense actually. Ive always known self described "spiritual" people to be egoists with no love for truth. Rupert sheldrake isnt an authority. The authorities say what im saying. P.s. still a logical fallacy.

Sheldrake is a pseudo-scientist!!! In other words he is a nutcase!

I think they said the same about Einstein...

Making that defense is a crime in and of itself!😂

So you were positively charged for such a negative action

I was also once charged for battery, though my batteries usually charge for me

😂

Re Volting defence.

It's the same thing.

Music was once upon a time the study of number in time, now it is just another unthinking specialization area. "Number in time" understanding would help us understand astronomy, financial markets and medical statistics.

Nature is a mind.

🙏❤️🌎🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵

That is sickening. Use your mind please, you have a margin of potential.

@@mavrosyvannah Why don't you do you? Are you always so ignorantly authoritarian, or just making a special effort to psychologically project your insecurities onto others today? Have you ever created anything, or simply criticized the creation of others? #PutinsPuppets are always so obsessive in making Us/Them dichotomies along racial lines, ethnicity, gender, language group, religion, age, socioeconomic status, and so on, with such remarkable speed to denigrate "Thems"; and you do so with a versatility that ranges from the minutest of microaggression to bloodbaths of savagery; and then typically decide what is inferior about "Them" based on pure emotion, followed by primitive rationalizations that you mistake for rationality. You should feel sick, you are! “When I look at narcissism through the vulnerability lens, I see the shame-based fear of being ordinary. I see the fear of never feeling extraordinary enough to be noticed, to be lovable, to belong, or to cultivate a sense of purpose. Research tells us that we judge people in areas where we're vulnerable to shame, especially picking folks who are doing worse than we're doing. If I feel good about my parenting, I have no interest in judging other people's choices. If I feel good about my body, I don't go around making fun of other people's weight or appearance. We're hard on each other because we're using each other as a launching pad out of our own perceived shaming deficiency.” Brené Brown, Daring Greatly: How the Courage to Be Vulnerable Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent, and Lead According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-V), someone has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) when they exhibit five or more of these nine criteria: 1 - Has a grandiose sense of self-importance. 2 - Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love. 3 - Believes that they are “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people. 4 - Requires excessive admiration. 5 - Has a sense of entitlement. 6 - Is interpersonally exploitative. 8 - Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others. 9 - Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of them. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes. “Starting with Theodor Adorno in the 1950s, people have suggested that lower intelligence predicts adherence to conservative ideology. Some but not all studies since then have supported this conclusion. More consistent has been a link between lower intelligence and a subtype of conservatism, namely right-wing authoritarianism (RWA, a fondness for hierarchy). One particularly thorough demonstration of this involved more than fifteen thousand subjects in the UK and United States; importantly, the links among low IQ, RWA, and intergroup prejudice were there after controlling for education and socioeconomic status. The standard, convincing explanation for the link is that RWA provides simple answers, ideal for people with poor abstract reasoning skills. What happens when children observe domestic violence, warfare, a gang murder, a school massacre? For weeks afterward there is impaired concentration and impulse control. Witnessing gun violence doubles a child’s likelihood of serious violence within the succeeding two years. And adulthood brings the usual increased risks of depression, anxiety, and aggression. Consistent with that, violent criminals are more likely than nonviolent ones to have witnessed violence as kids. Robert M. Sapolsky, Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst "There are many people for whom hate and rage pay a higher dividend of immediate satisfaction than love. Congenitally aggressive, they soon become adrenaline addicts, deliberately indulging psychically stimulated endocrines. Knowing that on self-assertion always ends by evoking other and hostile self-assertions, they sedulously cultivate their truculence. And, sure enough, very soon they find themselves in the thick of a fight. But a fight is what they most enjoy; for it is while they are fighting that their blood chemistry makes them feel most intensely themselves. "Feeling good", they naturally assume that they *are good. Adrenalin addiction is rationalized as Righteous Indignation and finally, like the prophet Jonah, they are convinced, unshakably, that they do well to be angry." Aldous Huxley #PutinsPuppets "Hitler, Stalin, Mao and other dictators were exposed to severe physical mistreatment in childhood and refused to face up to the fact later. Instead of seeing and feeling what had happened to them, they avenged themselves vicariously by killing millions of people. And millions of others helped them to do so. The fact is that an unscrupulous tyrant mobilizes the suppressed fears and anxieties of those who were beaten as children but have never been able to accuse their own fathers of doing so. Their loyalty to these fathers is unswerving, despite the torments suffered at their hands. Every tyrant symbolizes such a father, the figure whom the abused children remain attached to with every fiber of their being, hoping that one day they will be able to transform him into a loving parent by remaining blind. To sign away our democratic rights to future tyrants and dictators, because they cast themselves in the role of "strong fathers," thus reminding us of our own, is tantamount to committing collective suicide. Even if we have, since childhood, been waiting for the great, redeeming figure who will solve all our problems, as adults we can be aware that such a redeemer will, in reality, turn out to be something quite different. Nationalism, racism, and fascism are in fact nothing other than ideological guises of the flight from painful, unconscious memories of endured contempt into the dangerous, destructive disrespect for human life, glorified as a political program. It is very difficult for people to believe the simple fact that every persecutor was once a victim. Yet it should be very obvious that someone who was allowed to feel free and strong from childhood does not have the need to humiliate another person. The abused child goes on living within those who have survived such torture, a torture that ended with total repression. They live with the darkness of fear, oppression, and threats. When all its attempts to move the adult to heed its story have failed, it resorts to the language of symptoms to make itself heard. Enter addiction, psychosis, criminality. Individuals who do not want to know their own truth collude in denial with society as a whole, looking for a common "enemy" on whom to act out their repressed rage. But as the inhabitants of this shrinking planet near the end of the twentieth century, the danger inherent in self-deception is growing exponentially- and we can afford it less than ever." Alice Miller, For Your Own Good: Hidden Cruelty in Child-Rearing and the Roots of Violence

@@mavrosyvannah Just as important to consider is your knee-jerk reaction to the comment. You have a margin of potential, after all.

I like your very poetic description.

He looks so old now..... sad

⁠unreal.........comments like this is a fine example why society is so small, broken, vain and painfully immature nowadays. Rarely would that cross a persons mind 30 yrs ago let alone feel that childish comments such as this add anything at all to the discourse. How could I forget : breathtakingly (ignorant) as well. I suspect there will be volumes written about the last two generations of "parents" assuming that "raising " decent human beings is a matter of just feeding them and nothing more.

@@deeem-tee799 Todays generation is to a large extend self-absorbed and entitled.....

I am so grateful to God for having stumbled across Rupert's RU-vids. He is bravely supporting openly honest and intelligent enquiry!

I have all his books

I think you are right. Once I began spreading coffee grounds around a tree that had sand patches around it. I thought it was good for the tree. One day I got a feeling of anger from the tree. I couldn't understand it, and of course I thought I must be imagining it, but turns out too much coffee grounds makes the soil too acidic!

Blah, blah, blah. Stop using AI, or if you didn't use AI, you are slightly pretentious. If you can't explain something with simple words, then you don't understand it, per Einstein. Rewrite, please.

The perfect word salad! But I ordered soup😂

Well, I've said that many times.

I don’t know what you’re smoking but I’d buy a bag of it !! 🫠👍

To be fair, that's what Ruppert does, as well. He just adds bits of bacon to his word salad.

Of course, magnetic field is a special form of matter(space). 1-amplitude (space=1);1-digit time-ary number systen; img=1 ker=time; 2-amplitude(mass) (space=2);2-digit t-ary ns; Img=2 ker=t 3-amplitude(gravity) (space=3);3-digit t-ary ns; Img=3 ker=t 4-amplitude(quintessence) (space=4) coimg-nested 3-digit (coker+1)-ary ns; (or tensor: img x coker matrix at foreground Coimg x t-coker at background) It is coimg-vector magnetic field. ; Where coker=0..t-1 img=3 coimg=1 ; ker(time) becomes infinity and disappears(run away) in form of carry(+1) and remnants of it is visible in form of coker-shape : if coker=1 then it is a simplex; if coker=2 then it is is a simplex^2=cube; if coker=3 then it is a simplex^3=donut; if coker=n then it is a simplex^n=donut-like(coker=odd) or cube-like(coker=even); 5-amplitude(6-essence) (space=5) coimg-nested 3-digit (coker+1)-ary ns; It is coimg-vector magnetic field. ; Where coker=0..t-1 img=3 coimg=2 ; .... Likewise. Electric field is a special form of matter (dof). 1-amplitude (electric charge) (dof=1);1-digit temperature-ary number systen; img=1 ker=temperature; 2-amplitude (electric mass) (dof=2);2-digit t-ary ns;img=2 ker=t; 3-amplitude(electric gravity) (dof=3);3-digit t-ary ns; img=3 ker=t; 4-amplitude(electric quintessence) (dof=4) coimg-nested 3-digit (coker+1)-ary ns; It is coimg-vector electric field. ; Where coker=0..t-1 coimg=1 img=3 (coimg+img=4) 5- amplitude(electric 6-essence) (dof=5) Coimg-nested 3-digit (coker+1)-ary ns; It is coimg-vector electric field. ; Where coker=0..t-1 coimg=2 img=3 (coimg+img=5) ...

That's the hilariously retarded theory of that moron who acts like he's debunking everyone else while presenting that ridiculously stupid nonsense, isn't it? Laughable.

Cool. A lot of things are easier to explain if you restore the aether. Not least that light finally gets it's medium back. But also one can interpret LIGO discoveries as merely a shock wave in the aether, not gravitational waves, indeed the Einstein GR explanation falls apart as it should. It may give the right answers but the explanatory power is lacking. The fact that the LIGO shock wave travelled at same speed as light is no mystery: they are both the result of waves through the aether, which has a constant speed of propagation, like any medium. Indeed, some form of tired light would emerge from an aether based theory of light propagation, and I'm sure the resulting red shift explanation would replace the hypothesis of lambda-CDM expansion too.

@@risingphoenix8056 The concept of an infinitely dense aether provides a highly significant transformative approach toward cosmology. Together with insight and understanding of its potential spiritual dimensions that humans have the capacity to directly interact. May well provide major findings relevant to Rupert's morphic resonance works. Infinitely dense aether is a profound concept that requires good, strong cooperative collaboration with all cosmologists, inclusive of those that remain focussed on conventional physics.

@@risingphoenix8056 How is "aether" different from "field"? It seems like you're just describing fields.

I studied with yer Mama, at Utsamata U.

​@@jthepickle7Ah shadduppadaface eh

THE GALAMAD!!! 🤌

She must have studied at the prestigious Goomba University

mama doesn't know what matter is, but she knows what matters most.

Huh?

@@AB-ee5tb Take water for example. It's not entirely obvious why combining hydrogen and oxygen atoms results in the amazing properties of water. It produces emergent behavior, water has properties that the individual atoms do not have in themselves yet are capable of producing when combined.

Fascinating

Zero is just a conceptual numerical placeholder, it's null or nothing no value. 1 is only a representative of something and additives through addition, summation. As for things, things counted or added nothing is identical or has identity, 1 +1 only adds to 2 with regards to numbers only, not things in general. Nothing is identical only similar.

Or a 9

About ongoing bang/inflation. who knows, entire observable Universe and all it's evolution may be nothing more than Carno's cycle on space-time(magnetic) and dof-lte (electric) line. Carno's cycle on dof-lte (electric)line: temperature T /\ | iso-T A---------------->B /\ | iso-S | \/ D entropy S Likewise. Carno's cycle on space-time (magnetic)line: space S /\ | iso-S A---------------->B /\ | iso-T | \/ D time T D->A iso-time decompression of space (0d -> 3d in 0 second) A->B iso-space decompression of time (time begins to flow forwards ,like entropy, in 3d) and B->C iso-time compression of space (3d -> 0d in 0 second) C->D iso-space compression of time (time begins to flow backwards, like entropy, in 0d)

An intriguing hypothesis trumps an established scientific principal...me thinks. The mere breath of a hypothesis can extinguish the candleflame of scientific principal.

It will be an established principle, one day.

Well put. I took two glimpses of this and realized this is all mere speculation, and not backed up with any kind of math or experiment or observation, and as such, it sounds pretty, but is mostly useless except for filling pages and pages with words, and entertaining audiences who don't have any real understanding of modern physics, and are attracted by the alluring images and metaphors contained therein.

The problem is your dialect. Let us help you. Time is the fabric of the universe. We experienced time through our star, the sun. The universe is our mind. Our mind is wrapped all around us and inside of us. Time is the mind. There is one mind and an uncountable number of brains. Our brains are matter that formed through Light from our star, the sun. it’s all in the semantics! We are our star! Reality is the scale.

Brilliant!

Matter isnt considered as a type of energy because it forms its own distinct and real category. Matter is a real physical thing, particles exist, it isnt light.

@@Will-fj9gy I'm not saying it isn't its' own category, but it is one that is not AS fundamental as energy, which has no "hard" solidity, and is what matter is made of. Energy can exist on its own as undifferentiated process, whereas matter can not exist without energy. . They are not quite equally "fundamental" per se, though matter is considered as a distinct primary form of energy that needs to be distinguished f rom that of undifferentiated energy.

@@RSEFX Thats not science. Particles are equally fundamental as waves, and more so than energy. Thats one of the main concepts of quantum mechanics. Particles are not condensed energy. They are physical objects with their own existence, and no they dont require energy to exist, in fact they produce energy.

@@RSEFX I think my comment disappeared so ill try again. Energy is the ability to exert force that causes displacment. Particles on the other hand are a fundamental thing, they are not composed of energy nor do they require it. They arent made of anything, thats a huge part. But they do CARRY energy and momentum, which is different then being composed of it.

@@RSEFX "Energy can exist on its own as undifferentiated process". Wrong. There is no "just energy" not connected to anything. Some physical object is needed to have that energy.

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Go figure all 3 are wrong. Science for the W

Touche'

The only power that modern science has is that most scientists are willing to lock arms and agree to their assumptions and conclusions, and agree not to let God into the equation, thereby perpetuating their inadequate explanation of reality. “As Terence McKenna observed, “Modern science is based on the principle: ‘Give us one free miracle and we’ll explain the rest.’ The one free miracle is the appearance of all the mass and energy in the universe and all the laws that govern it in a single instant from nothing.” Rupert Sheldrake, Morphic Resonance: The Nature of Formative Causation “The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.” ~ Werner Heisenberg, a 1932 Nobel laureate and father of quantum mechanics “Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality. When we recognize our place in an immensity of light‐years and in the passage of ages, when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling, that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual. So are our emotions in the presence of great art or music or literature, or acts of exemplary selfless courage such as those of Mohandas Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr. The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.” Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark "The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Albert Einstein

Yeah click bait title. Was hoping there was more context as to how light gets frozen. Describe how our star system was formed, knowing JADES-GS-z13-0 exists.

Not at all, watch again: its got to do with the untenability of the materialist position with regards to the hard problem of consciousness.

You don't think that the perspective you bring to the theory-generation-table is relevant to the science you perform?

In your mind

Its not. Matter is composed of fundamental particles, lots of types; light is a small section of the electromagnetic spectrum. Light cant freeze but if it did thats basically radio waves anyways. Matter isnt radio waves.

@@Will-fj9gy ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5z_krRwSyt8.htmlsi=t4v5Ab-_-1niBTlP

​@@Will-fj9gy you don't know this. You think this. You may think you are combating misinformation but actually you are limiting people's ability to think. Matter likely is compromised of energy which can then be thought of as small separated momentums, which we can attribute to frequencies of light. I think this is likely because atoms absorb frequencies of light and emit them. Smaller or larger momentums out of the visible light range are not absorbed and push on/bounce off the atoms. The whole reason we can touch matter is because the atoms won't absorb the momentum.

@@User53123 Yeah actually i do. Thats how science works. Tests, peer review, proofs, etc. Then yeah you know. I'm limiting peoples ability to spread misinformation. Fundamental particles such as electrons, quarks, etc, are not composed of photons. In fact light is merely a type of electromagnetic information. Electrons even emit photons when dropping atomic orbitals.

@@User53123 Yeah i do. Thats how science works. Tests, peer review, proof. Thats how you "know" instead of believe. Light is a subset of the electromagnetic spectrum ergo electromagnetism is a priori. Electrons emit photons when dropping atomic orbitals. Fundamental particles arent made of photons, they have a wave/particle duality thing and arent made of anything. Energy is a scalar and momentum a vector. Neither of these are light. We can touch matter because we are matter. This isnt how physics works.