Max is blown away by Stephen A.’s omission of LeBron James with KD, Kawhi | First Take | ESPN 

Bryce Woodford nah yall just refusing to acknowledge KD is at Brons level cuz ya mad your daddy’s not getting no more rings

Durant is just a better scorer

I swear he is

wesley4rbes The only reason people think KD is on Lebrons level is because he is winning rings on a FAR superior team. Lebron is a 9.5 KD is a 9.3.

Still salty about LBJ calling him out.

He is a right Durant with Kawhi would be a better fit. Both play defense and better shooting. They move the ball not hold the basketball

How is stephen a. Hating?

SAS was nuthugging when skip was around so your point is wrong

😂😂😂

Funny how you say the rockets without CP3 could have beat KD and the Warriors had not for those bad shooting, yet the Cavs with Lebron the GOAT couldn't even take 1 games from those same KD and Warriors. Something doesn't add up here.

@@tigera6 lol, lbj had carried the cavs in game 1 to a win pretty much and his teammates still managed to fuck it up. Don't come talking if the bench from gsw is beter than the starters from the cavs lol

I sort of agree with your comment but people please don't act like the teams that LeBron went against had a boogie cousins a James Harden a Chris Paul a Kevin Love a LeBron James Anthony Davis Etc

tigera6 I was just gonna type: then they faced lebron at the end......what happened? Like any top 5 western team wouldn't walk all over the eastern conference. Lakers would have done more than hope for the playoffs

The Warriors haven't played anybody difficult for the last 40 years except the Houston team from last season and the Cavs team for the last 4 years golden state gets a cake walk every time the playoff start pretty much because Harden was by his self for Years everybody wants to talk about the he's being a cakewalk but when you have the best team in the league like Golden State you got to go and find where the competition is at unfortunately people say the Cavs were weak but they were a better matchup for the warrior the last 3 years before Chris Paul join the Rockets everybody else was getting beat like they stole something

I was the 420th like

Zachary Follis neither have you with your poor spelling

Ro Roman You’re right I accidentally put “no” instead of “now” but I still got 500+ likes so it doesn’t matter to me but for some reason you’re mad about it

Zachary Follis HAHAHA YES HES HIGH AS FUCK🧐

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Lmao....true

Nahhhhh that goes to Rob Parker easily.

@@k_____2802 i would say so but with these comments SAS is very close

- 23 Why because they are the only ones that tell the truth about Lebron?

What because he didn’t pick lebron that mean he’s a skip bayless because he chose the better option

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😂😂😂

Lmfaooooo

I can only see people mentioning LeBrons Dallas series ...do you all not no what kd ....did .....or are ya all gsw bandwagons

Only bronsexuals think Max won...

D-VO , Hella true yo

If you really think that then you didn't actually watch the video. Fuck outta here.

ONLY A DIMBASS WOULD THINK MAX KELLERMAN IS INTELLIGENT, LOL

*DUMBASS

You must be a Lebron fan. Because Max is the one not proving a single thing. All Max keep saying is "Lebron is the best player". Well where are your facts Max? He speaks straight out of his feelings! "Oh KD couldnt win until he joined an All-Star team!" Well guess who else couldn't win until he joined an All-star team Max?

Emmanuel Kojo Dwumfour-poku where was LeBron when the Mavs beat the ‘not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6’ heat ? Oh that’s right, he was scoring 8 points in the finals. Bloodclaartt

where was lebron in the finals against dallas ? ill wait

Choked smh.

Still dropping 30 on bron neck

Where Steph when they blow 3:1

sas was proven right lebron was the salty one

This is literally the entire reason SAS comes at LeBron. It proves that SAS is a clown and not a journalist or even a reporter. Dude needs to get a reality show so he can mouth off trollish nonsense all day.

This is basically a fight between 2 guys with deplorable hairlines

Yup. That's exactly the timeline for this Skip-clone nonsense. All these TV personalities w/ their big egos. You have no objectivity now because LBJ called you trash? Weak!

LeBron "soft cast" James?? NEVER

Max didn't even make a point

Loubin Augustine he kinda did but just not as loud lol, he said kawhi+lbj> anything else

Ok but what is it about their games correlate that would make thema better duo.

You crazy. Max always has the worst arguments about Lebron and it always comes back to an it’s Lebron thing. Stephen brought up good points and Max’s only rebuttal is that it’s Lebron. Overall Lebron is a better player, but the only thing that Lebron can do better than KD is pass. KD is better than or just as good as Lebron at everything else. So Max’s point was ridiculous to begin with. Then having a ball dominant player which is what Stephen A was trying to say with other Top 3 players wouldn’t be better than two players who can drop 30 in their sleep and lockdown your best two players.

No bitchh

he gotta talk like this because skip left. they need him to hate on lebron

Alex facts every debate show needs a Lebron lover and a Lebron hater, I don’t even think SAS hate Lebron he just have to say things like this for his show to stay relevant

Djayy TV so right.. Foolish is quite apt..lol

When did sas say that he hate lebron?

star fire anytime LeBron ain't gettin sucked off his fans complain. difference between KD and LeBron a coin flip and if they goin against each other id take KD. max talking bout Jordan and pippen. KD on a whole different level than pippen. KD doin damage on a team with a two time mvp. of course LeBron assist numbers go be higher and make it appear like he makes ppl better

You drunk.6 8 250 got swept TWICE.avg less than ten against mavs.lost 4-1 to a old Tim Duncan.ray Allen had to save him.Jordan the goat .kd already took his crown!!!

@@brianbrown9643 the only time he chocked was against the mavericks in 2011 and kd blew a 3-1 lead and then join the team that had beaten him .your basketball knowledge is great haha

Dimitris Kavousakis he’s right

@@chosen7934 drunk

LeBron picked the majority of that team and had a lot of spot up shooters which suits his game. So of course he would thrive in that team foo.

Shennon Hewa he didn’t let his teammates do anything. Ofc it’s gonna seem that way when he’s trying to do everything. KD on that roster I guarantee most of the team is more effective offensively cause KD Doesn’t cripple his teammates by forcing them to change into something so he can use them.

they wouldve lost to indiana. they dragged lebron to a game 7, i think kd wouldnt have been enough to beat them. he would get double teamed, and he isnt agood enough playmaker to keep creating shots for jobbers like jr smith, tristan thompson, george hill and a 37 y.o. kyle korver. toronto and the celtics would blow them out the window, too.

Adrian Simmons Jr. Facccts 💯‼️

Sorry bud but KD allows other guys to make basketball moves and not force them to sit in one spot and shoot.

Also that last shot argument is flat wrong anyway. Especially after last years playoffs. Ask toronto if they want lebron takung that last shot or not

Omg bruh thank you!! I hate that shit! So damn ignorant

Cause sniper shots are always deadly

Saifullah Rabiu Sani You missed the point I made.

Hey does anyone wanna shoot Stephen A pussy smith in the head with a bullet

Same reason why lbj went to team up with Wade and bosh...btw it was suppose to be melo instead of bosh..... They wanted to win rings. I don't blame them. Westbrook is great but not the pg kd wants or needs

@@whatsgoodmayne no not the same reason LBJ didnt have any talent around him before he left kd had westbrook and a really good team also kd blew a 3-1 lead and then joined them so no it's not the same

@@ShroomsTeatrue lbj didn't have talent around him, but he asked why did kd join the warriors. Both lbj and kd left to go win rings. Lbj said he went to go learn how to win.

@@whatsgoodmayne KD left to get the easy not to learn to win.

LeBron james

Scrub facts

That's the motto of SAS.

That was crazy... Stephen A, you take a major L for that comment

@pvanganimare SAS never said that lol

lol so true

@@str8duval lol yes he did

Stephen a is the biggest race baiter on earth

You should

Tru, but who would you take on the Lakers right now, Lebron or KD.

Nick Tolentino easily KD Lebron is not as good anymore bro

Dylan Athwal After the way Lebron REFUSED to play defense in the finals...FKK LEBRON. Just because he's Lebron means NOTHING. That nikka QUIT in the finals in front of the whole world. He ain't shht.

Nick Tolentino that’s a tough one bro but due to the fact that LeBron is the best player in the world and in my opinion more assertive and therefore a better leader I’d probably have to go with LeBron my brother

@@qhousee17 hmmm... But was KD good on OKC, or westbrook ruin their chances. Up 3-1 against thr dubs that year. LEBRON is getting old, but is he wiser than KD meaning playing more efficient especially in D. Does Kd have better chemistry with the young core of the Lakers?

Amen

Kd and Kawhi would flat out be better. Lebron will not average a triple double this season. He wont play all 82 games. He wont get to a final anymore. Fact lebron also avoided kd at all times. Kd has taken the mantle

@@garrettvinson34 The only mantle KD took was the mantle for "weakest" move in NBA history. I'm not the biggest LBJ fan, but facts are the man is the greatest player of his time and will remain so for the next two or three years. After that, we can talk about who's taking the mantle.

@@MH-uh7vq so bet you didnt say that when lebron went to Miami and bought his teams Haha. Still bought his teams in cleveland. Hell he wanted all those veterans this past year. Lebron has always bought his teams. So you are mad at the cap space and the warriors front office for getting kd. Ooooooh ok

Lebron a 3 time mvp on stacked teams.

erik puka you can't act like max doesn't slurp lebron tho

erik puka Just because he doesn't kiss lebron's ass like you do, doesn't mean he's a hater.

Lol he doesn't kiss LeBron's ass like the rest of these analysts. That makes him a hater? Thats a first

The words "hater" and "slurper" are for intellectually lazy people. Use better diction.

Go watch Skip Bayless

Since Skip isn't there he has to.

Bcuz lebron is coming for Mj...Stephen A Smith is mjs fanboy...😂😆😂

So these days we call anyone who doesn't suck off Lebron a Lebron hater? What about anything he said implies to you to he is hating on Lebron?

@@TeacherJaneEli that ship sailed a long time ago little boy

If you watched SAS a few years back he was a fanboy too. He's been salty ever since LBJ called him a liar about the Kyrie incident.

Wow 😂

Russ Southerland that's that New York shit

SAS is a Goofy..

The Goat so what about the performance the year before against the defending champs cavs roster?

@@nolovelost3981 that cavs team beat gs in 7 then kd joined gs who whooped him when kd had a beast team

SAS dodged that point real quick ha ha he’s not slick though

Hold on KD averaged 30ppg on 50% shooting in 2012 too - did you forget?

Leo Martel this I facts

Didn't that 73-9 team lose that year ?? Or does no one want to say that anymore ?

And that's the Facts

Leo Martel lol keep cherry picking facts. I'll throw some other pointless ones in there: 3-6 in the finals. Kd went 50-40-90. Has lost 11 of 13 against kd the last 2 years. Also it's hard to win with westbrick as evidenced by the being knocked out in round 1 by a damn rookie

Yeah people ride KD a lot. I would assume they are Jordan dickriders and/or lebeon haters for the most part

ROB yeah I was thinking that

Because guys like Stepen A and Skip are just there to say unpopular things to get dummies like me riled up - seems disingenuous and only done for ratings or clickbait. Sadly i still pay attention.

+ROB Because KD is a better scorer than Lebron, and Kawhi is a better defender than both Lebron and KD, that simple...

KD & LBJ would simply break the league. LBJ could play until he was 45 if KD joined him

Max Payne Yea LeBron sucks because he great at everything

Stephen A won this one 😂 sorry to say

93brice Other way around.. SAS spoke FACTS.. Max is a Lebron dickrider... Durant and Kwhai is the better duo than Lebron and Kwhai

Only people that thinks SAS lost are the ones that keep sucking Lebron off. People don't want to admit how LeBron's game is falling down the slope and it starts with his inability (at times) and unwillingness (mostly everytime he needs to) to play defense.

LMFAO to all of you look at the comments you are in the huge minority Lebron is arguably the greatest player to ever play, keep disrespecting greatness.

93brice No one is disputing his greatness, dude. This discussion isn't even about how great he is.

Emmanuel Kojo Dwumfour-poku ...Don't fk

Emmanuel Kojo Dwumfour-poku Wtf is MAX talking about

Stephen A is going mad

People who actually understand basketball know what he’s talking about

@@PatsDynasty THANK YOU for saying that

513OVA EVERYTHING so three categories in shooting which means all in all KD is a better SHOOTER like SAS said lol

G.T Breezy exactly so the only area he believes KD is better than Lebron at is shooting? He could have said that with one sentence.... But acted as if it were more than one area to try and prove his point

Thought i was the only one who caught that. He broke it up like it was multiple categories.

They are different catagories

Hassan Sikes no they are no.... They are all shooting

Emmanuel Kojo Dwumfour-poku plotting on his escape to gsw

@@dnt_reach where was lebron when he blew against mavs every1 in their career has one such phase and inspite that he averaged 30 in that series on 45% shooting and scored 41 and 29 points in game 6& and7 not like lebron scoring 8 points averaging 17 ppg

Facts

@Indivisionaire LLC that was in the finals try again buddy

@French # Most Romantic / Beautiful Language Ever Lies durant played spurs multiple years but was splitting win/loss w spurs being eliminated by the grizzlies twice and only played warriors once in playoffs while in okc.. Btw mavs did beat the heat and lebron did choke but he bounced back with the same group and won 2.. That mavs team beat the reigning champs in lakers and beat okc so even tho miami was favored dosent mean mavs were terrible.. West is better but kd lost to weak western conference teams other than spurs and mavs that year and lakers when they beat okc

Spicy Foomdist eh

SPICY! If you watched the finals Kd was guarded mostly by other players mainly. What do you think he woulda done if you take Kd and put em on Cavs last year? Give LJ a couple more physical defensive players around him to throw on Durant and you throw him off easy bro..

Larry Budsmon dude lebron is 33 rn he cant fucking do everything, we’re lucky enough to be witnessing what he is doing you paigon. Lastly, 2008 or 2013 bron would absolutely destroy kd now and kd in his mvp form bitch.

SPICER James coulda shut down Kd 1on1 but then you got steph clay and dump offs to worry about. It was a lost cause if you watched anything.

@@inkmaster4715 Read what I said again dood. Su casa mi casa

najee trotter mml

I can't say that. SAS knows ball. Problem is, he's very opinionated on how he likes stars to play. Being a former scorer, he always leans to scorers who are kinda selfish...like he was.

You're a goddamned fool if you actually think that. Fuck outta here.

You are dumb.

@@RabidDogma why do they compare this guy to Magic if he's not a willing passer? Gtfoh and stop trolling.

@@RabidDogma Then why did he pass to G hill in game 1? Hill was open and cutting to the rim, but got fouled by Klay.

Charles Jiles and then they lost. Sometimes the right play isn’t the best. If he’s the best player in the world he needs to step up and take the shot

TheYeezy750Pizza lol I’m dying 😂 nigga got hemorrhoids

Bahahahahahahahaa!!!!

Old nigga got back problems 🤣😂🤣🤣

@@genobadie8325 u

He didnt fully lead them bc zaza injured him dont pick 1 game

The fact that lebron can take a team with a terrible shooting clarkson, high and drunk jr smith, Tristan Thompson that cheats and brings drama, a kevin love that has metall issues rn, and a owner that hates your guts he brought this team to the finals and played 82 games dumbass lebron is the greatest basketball player and to not pick him is ridiculous

Yeah In The Weak Ass East. LeBron Won't Be Going To The Finals Out Here In The West. The Nigga Left The East So He Won't Get Anymore Finals Lost On His Resume

Magic lol if you think the warriors were losing 4 games based on 1 half of a basketball game you’re a fucking moron.

I feel that Lebron fans always but the win-win narrative over everything. If his team won, its because of LeBron greatness. If his team lost, its because his teammate sucks and Lebron got overmatched

James Miller max lied when he said bron is an all time great defender in crunch, he ran away from bron game 3 😂😂

Buddy he does it a lot you must not know him

Shut up Satan

Nah Stephen A being reasonable. He still thinks that LeBron is the best player, but KD is the better offensive player and Kawhi is the better defensive player. It's about the duo working together, not about the individual players

SAS still thinks Melo is top 10. that lets you know where his mind is.

PREACH!!!!

Neither does lebron so your point is what exactly?

Neither does LeBron ?

steph is a better shooter. so was kobe. so was mj. mj, lbj, and kobe are better scorers. he was quite stoppable in the 2016 wcf, back when the other team used to be able to double team him... sword and shield? lebron with leonard would be the most versatile duo ever. both are great shooters/scorers, ball handlers, defenders, players willing to pass and have less of the ball but still do a lot with what theyre getting. along with lebrons rebounding and iq, who can compete? they can score in many ways. driving inside, passing to the open man, long range shooting. they can guard the two greatest players on the other team. imagine a warriors team, with steph and kd getting locked down completely. they would have gotten swept.

@@anonymous-pb7dy MJ and Kobe are not better shooters than KD.

Thanos so why didnt lebron do that last playoffs 💀

Thanos that's the excuse u still need to be efficient and lebron was efficient if he doesn't have a 40 point game it's a loss

jeremiah greenwood lebron had at most 10 40 point games in this years playoffs

@@jeremiahgreenwood7505 if you meant recent..I mean Lebron is a team player, mostly a facilitator at the most so... yeah trust me if Lebron really wanted to score.. everybody knows he would average at least over 30 ppg

Poor KD joined the greatest regular season team of all time and had 3 all stars playing with him and those big scary monsters are taking shots away from him *crying. gtfoh

Just like how Lebron had to leave Cleveland to beat the Celtics back then?

@@tigera6 so your agreeing with me then. I feel the same way with Lebron on that move. But KD's move was worse. Bosh and Wade don't compare to Steph (best shooter ever), Klay (second best), and Draymond.

@Steve johnson the best shooters in the game had an off night. Everyone has bad nights. Ask James Harden and Crew on that game 7 vs GS.

Gregory: I think you are under-estimate who Wade and Bosh were at that time. DWade was a top 10 if not top 5 players at that time, on the overall talent he is no Steph but still an all-time great. Bosh was a top 3 to top 5 PF at the time, and given the style of Miami big 3, I would say he was a better 3rd wheel than Kevin Love. People love saying how that Miami team was not "stacked" while in fact they were top 3 in the league the moment they formed together. As for GS, correct me if I am wrong, but EVEN with KD, some people were saying that Rockets would have beat them last year if CP3 is healthy, and Spurs with a healthy Kawhi could have beat them 2 years ago. So they are not as "dominant and unbeaten" as you have said because there are teams that could have beaten them. To me, the issue was because especially Lebron teams got no shot of beating those Warriors while other teams could have without having a stacked team, that does not help what Max is saying, which is "Lebron is wayyyy better than everyone else"

Nah, nah, nah, that's not how it works dog. I've seen a lot of dominant teams steamroll teams when things are easy but when they get in a tight situation they struggle and stumble. You seem to not understand that there is a difference between being clutch and being dominant. Anyone can be dominant looking good blowing teams out, but can perform on the road in the playoffs in clutch situations when the games are close, you seem to forget that Durant has been doing that. And Lebron ain't catching MJ, you might as well put the crackpipe down and stop fantasizing about that.

I have a feeling Stephen A Smith smokes his crack from KD's jock lol

Jrock420blam 😂😂🔥

Love the name and profile pic

Factsss 🤣🤣

Jrock420blam that wasn’t as good. Nice try tho

I get your point and it's well taken and I definitely agree but it's 180 not 360 otherwise he would just spin around to the same direction he was facing before.

Colin Crume lol good point 👍🏽

LeBron is the one who doesn't have a resume' to compare with Jordan.

herbert nelson Let me guess, 6 titles ? lol. Can we agree that Jordan’s Team was the GSW of his era ? Situation helps. What was KD resume vs LeBron before GSW ? If KD extends with GSW, him & Curry will most likely win more titles than LeBron. What would be the argument then ? KD or Curry better than LeBron because they won more titles ? If we are talking about individual talent , greatness, all around basketball player, I’m not sure any real GM would pick Jordan or anyone over LeBron.

This is a dumb ass statement. RU-vid First Take edition's from back in the day when Skip hated daily on LeBron. It was Stephen A. defending Bron virtually every single time. GTFOH...

BrooksHOF TV, Didn't Lebron throw a tantrum and quit in OT?

prazertv Who wouldn’t? MJ would straight murder jr on the spot.

No one is saying kd is better than LeBron. The point Is the gap is close

If LBJ didn’t score those points who would have? KD has other guys who can 50 points and are the third option. He doesn’t have to over exert himself.

kids on drugs the gap close u think it is huh? Imagine kevin Durant having to play 45 minutes a game for his team to win, make all the right decisions? Answer that question and then tell me is the gap close. They won 2 games by small margin and k d play with 3 all stars lls not even close not even a lil bit. Lebron Is way better than kd.

Samuel Boegeman the way you shared these facts proves your bias. And y’all keep forgetting KD was in the west 😂

Well for LeBron in the past to ever win a ring he had to beat the best west team in the conference so that comment holds no weight.

Harden wasnt a true all star in OKC. Kd also has never lost in the finals nor PLAYOFFS with true MULTIPLE all stars in their respective years on his team. Lebron did 3x..

@@nickjones5495 KD is not on bron level so cut it out. LeBron was 18-5 head up against KD before he joined the greatest regular season team ever assembled. KD makes an already capable finals team without KD that much more unbeatable with him.

c4choze yah that shit don’t matter. Put KD in the east and he’s making at least 7/8 finals in a row. Or almost any top 5 player in the west. Lebron is not even gonna make the WCF this year with a better team than the cavs had with him this past year. That basically proves my point bruh. So you “cut it out” lmaooo

Ayveel Robinson facts

How?? The 1st game kd had 26 points. Game 2 kd had gsw up by 9 before curry hit all those 3s.

As a bandwagon LBJ fan, KD > LBJ as now and into the future, period!

L Asf Curry Choked Bad In Game 3 While In All Those Games Remained Consistent. & BY THE WAY KD Averaged More Points Rebounds & Assists Than Curry In The Series 😂😂 Robbed Where ?

Ayveel Robinson, Spoken like a true bandwagon Warriors fan. Game 3 was a pivotal game. If Warriors lost that game, it could have caused a moment shift. Sometime ill-educated bandwagon fans like yourself don't know anything about.

Probably not gonna happen though..

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

ibn-samir mitchell that's not fact at all unless u don't know basketball lbj is not mj not even close

and kawhi at this point isn't scottie until he proves it

Facts

Leonard is not better offensively than LeBron, in 10 years KD played defense 2 years and he is above Bron as a defender....please

YRN TJ you sound dumb

why is she even still there?

women have opinions, too. it is 2018. get over it. we are not going backward.

caladan rude v u can have an opinion, but there's no need to start yelling nd interrupting the others.

DFT Stephen A. smith does the same thing 😂😂