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I thought OCG can finally ban maxx C when all malchummy released, but TCG freeing maxx C instead dmight be possible too lol

​@@invertbrid they're even going to reprint it in Speed Duels so... yeah that's a real possibility

​@@invertbridif the announcement of August banlist is for Maxx C to come back instead of just banning Snakes, I'll seriously consider stopping buying meta, and troll with rogue/casual decks. In TCG we have a way healthier card pool compared to OCG, and while I have fun in Master Duel where the roach is legal, it's severely limiting deck building

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@@babrad I never, ever resolve maxx-C in MD.

I want the copium that anyone who thinks this is not a 6 Maxx C scenario in Master Duel if Maxx C is not banned. Putting yourself in a winning position in 50% of games is enough on its own to justify, yes the math checks out - you can get to Master 1 with a 50% win ratio which is the absolute WORST case scenario assuming you lose every one of your go first games. But if you really want more arguments: - A dead card is mathematically not a detriment worth even considering. You only need a single starter for full combo, and then you can have 3 other live cards alongside a dead Maxx 3. - Nibiru is a top used card despite how dead it is going first and even going second sometimes while Maxx 3 is even more impactful then Nibiru and will be dead far less going second. - It's insurance if your combo is stopped. Most decks can pivot into SP > pass. Simply disrupting a monster play of your opponent's gets SP off the field or, worst case, they remove it with a S/T or go to BP and beat over it... in which case Maxx 3 is live... and they can't win that turn after BP... wait what exactly is the downside? lmao. The downside is trivial. Yes, some of the greatest copium of all time.

"Then why did you order it??"

Thought he was sneaky

Dam sly insect!

Normal robina. Use advent or swallows.

​@leodeleon3990 this only works if you open robina eglen the spells and you're doing it in your turn so you wouldn't even be able to activate it on your opponents turn and if by the time your opponent outs your board and you CAN use it you're already dead.

​@@IC-23after using advent drop this, then use rollback in GY to start a floo summon chain booking everything by banishing the floo trap after you got enough draws. Now how rollback ends in gy? I don't know, but if someone did full fiendsmith combo on their turn to set up full Floo combo for my turn, I would just surrender out of respect.

Keep it in your back pocket if your opponent tries to completely clear your board.

Hey. Remember when CArdCar D was played in Yugioh?! :)

befor that works they would have to ban over 20 cards

@@seecrit436 good, ban those toxic ass cards

​@@seecrit436not seeing the issue

Pokemon was so smart giving all supporters a once per turn clause. Alongside actual resource management, the first turn restrictions, and the power level of individual cards makes it so most decks aren't even swinging on T2 and games actually play out with interaction

​@JamFlexx I mean a lot of Pokemon is extremely fast and has had plenty of uninteractive formats. I feel like Pokemon of all TCGs is a bad example.

I think this must be future proofing of some kind... It wouldn't be past Konami to make it happen considering some of their card design choices, but I get what you're saying it's very weird

Inb4 birbs 2.0

I wish! like why do most normal summon effects need you to add it reveal it then normal summon it

It's just mistranslated. It doesn't say "normal" in Japanese.

@@esrohm6460 yep in the future I can see Konami will make archetype that play around this card with normal summon from deck

Mistranslaton

That's just links...

Ah.. so that the old succ fusion monster can be summened that's good

they just reused the other multichummys effects copied the text and switch some words out forgot to remove normal summon

Konami: 😉

Starlight only one per three cases

Only QCR

If all the planets align and the gods manifest themselves in the flesh and every Konami employee attains nirvana then it will be... An ultra.

Bro no it Will be secret hahaha

He might have seen them but Yugi tubers have been banned or demonetized for talking about Leaks before they get officially revealed

Paleo support, Machine support, a new flip monster archetype... I think the yugitubers have formed a coalition within Konami

​@@slayinderp7501I'm excited paleos have a good matchup against snake eyes and tenpai. All they need is a faster gameplan and more consistency.

The corps* OCG players also dislike Max C but its effectively a part of their game for years so they have no reason to complain a Lot

Really? Half the good ocg players hate max c too lol

The vocal minority vs the silent majority

Most OCG players hate Maxx C, but many of them also believe that its existence is necessary. And whenever these people see a new TCG ban list that completely ruins a deck they like, they blame the maxx C ban for it, and this further strengthens their belief that maxx C must exist.

@@aaaaajack I play OCG and we hate Maxx C as much as we hate Droll, Droplet, etc. TCG players assume OCG particularly hate it so much but it's as equally hated as a perfectly played hand trap.

You'll never get that far because they'll just shotgun these things in the draw phase

@@LReezy1992set 5 cards then

Those monsters r pretty good, sets up requirement to summon cyber dragon esk monsters and prevents imperm/gamma

I mean if you end on crystal wing and set 3, your opponent won’t draw for those set cards but yes they’re allowed keep +6 in their hand

Eh. It remains to be seen. Even if you end with one monster on field, your opponent still got 2 draws and get another on theor draw phase and that's still a lot of possible engine. If they keep doing major hits then you have less decks making boards that justify a card like this. People can forget apo and ip getting banned since this card punishes having both on field

You won't use it in main deck. So I think it's not too powerful

right since they not going to just have this card and every card they draw could be more handtraps and a 2nd one not even dead if you have two in hand since they effects stack

Good. Because fiendsmith snake eyes still turnskip you because you will lose 90% of the time going second against it

most likly

Omega Max C 😂

Maxx G for the one that works from the GY we inevitably get

@@kuzidas4213 this^

midd c

little knight

*my lederhosen

Tenpai dragon gets another blowout ht to auto win

​@@xakuray5522 only tenpai I've seen can do it. Coz they can technically make 0 board interruption with sphere, then tribute it on opp turn, then activate malchummy. They can play high amount of handtraps too.

They wont because OCG already design decks that dont Care about Maxx c which means they dont care about mulchy. What Will happen instead Is the TCG Will effectively have the exact same format as OCG and we wont see things like rikka pop Out of nowhere anymore because they'll get % checked by longer rounds with more % of seeing mulchy

I.p+Temple? 😂 This card is also check for your set cards

You're specifically picking a link spam deck that summons from the deck too. Take Chimera for example, no summons from the deck, you make the handrip fusion, set Chimera Fusion for a Guardian Chimera play. Op now starting on 5 cards and you got handtraps, Guardian Chimera on the opponents turn and a Diabellze play. All this new handtraps does is hurt stupid op decks that shouldn't exist in the first place.

@@francisbartoszewski2284 And you're specifically picking a deck that doesn't really summon from the deck, rips a card out of the opponent's hand, and can get away with making one fusion on its own turn to then pass and play on the opponent's turn. Traptrix? Basic turn one combo summons twice from the extra and once from the deck. Salamangreat? Ends on literally no interaction unless they summon like 10 times from extra. Dragon Link? See above. Branded? Ideally wants to summon at least 3 times from the extra to end on Mirrorjade. Etc, etc. I could keep going, but the point is, there is a lot of (definitely NOT "op") rogue decks which are forced to either let the opponent go +2/3 with this card, or play a suboptimal opener. Saying that it only hurts "stupid op decks that shouldn't exist in the first place" just because your pet deck is barely affected by it is incredibly disingenuous and extremely shortsighted. For every "op deck" that this card works against, there's several rogue/lower-tier decks which are affected just as much.

i,p+temple+flamberge is 3 cards on the field, you keep 9 in your hand and you can stanby phase on your turn this to check the ip from doing anything.

This is facts. There is reason they keep releasing band aids like handtraps and maxx C effects, and floodgates. If they really want to fix YGO, might as well make new master rule that limit ppl action in a turn.

And I'm one of them 😭

as the other i dont mind, im more concerned to find tributing from hand effects

I think you're right, but I could still see at least 12-15 hand traps(15 being 3 mulcharmy added) due to mulcharmy only being good for going 2nd. Sidedecking is going to change greatly once this card releases.

@@plantseason290 Well yes but I also can see people running 3 because they might have 20+ non-engine slots and they might want to have it incase they lose the dice roll.

@jacobwoodard818 most people build for going first though it seems. That's why I think it'll be side decked a lot. I'm going to experiment with it in Punk since if I draw it going first, it'll be discard fodder. Wanted to mention that you had made a great point that others hadn't mentioned yet. Hope others see it.

@@plantseason290 true we both had great points thanks

I can see at most 6 tbh

M4XX C

It *is* a downside, but that "+6" does so much heavy lifting. If your opponent just ends with just 1 card on field, but summoned from deck 3 times to do it, you still get to keep all 3 cards you drew, since you had to send this card to grave and had 4 cards left. The amount of cards you get to keep grows even further as they leave more cards on field and as you use other handtraps. It's honestly pretty hard to hit cap against combo decks that set up a big board.

Shuffling back in ep is completely irrelevant Most endboards are around 4 cards so we dont start shuffling back until like 10 in hand at least 4 of your cards in hand will be playables which means we need to actually draw 10 cards (14 total in hand) before you start worrying about shuffling anything back If you drop 4hts and then start your turn with +6 cards in hand you win the game

@@mattr791 let's look at a snake eyes fire king combo for example Summon Ash, get poplar Poplar summons, now original sin Oak from deck (+1) Flameberg from deck (+2) Link kuribo(+3) Wolf (+4) Apolo(+5) Cat (+6) Whale(+7) The field now has 3 monster negates (2 from Apollo 1 from Arvada) And a total of 5 cards in the field (fire king island, fire king temple, and 3 monsters meaning they had 6 draws and have 11 cards at the beginning of the turn, compared to max C it would have easily been 20 cards, suddenly more powerful single or duo boss monsters can become a route to avoid giving many draws to the chumster. I could give my opponent less draws if for example oak and flame where in my hand (bricks) and it's possible to figure out ways to link clim through graveyard summoning, so I think this is in theory a better designed card, maybe you don't make a full field under chummy but you might not need to completely skip your turn because there is some counterplay compared with the bug

Or you could draw a brick hand, then draw a bunch of gas and shuffle back the garnets. It's all random, same as drawing 5 cards in the first place.

I just think Nadir, aka Farfa, is onto something. Let's not make more handtraps with broken effects no matter how you balance the card for going 2nd decks to use. Let's make cards for archetypes moving forward that incentives or supports you going 2nd with the engines, mix of archetypes, and/or non-handtrap, non-engine cards you're running with great effects that helps them push against going 1st decks a little more harder, especially with the activated effects that would reduce the interactivity of your opponent's responses if the archetypes themselves aren't that great. That would be the better design approach of helping going 2nd decks thrive better. That also would bring Konami to be more open with the effects they make; for an example, instead of having you search or recycle a card, summon one of a theme or set of monsters, and/or disrupt the opponent's plays in many different ways provided that trades equally one another (ex. remove an opponent's card with your card that removes it), increase the number amount you search and/or recycle, summon, and/or disrupt the opponent's plays in multiple different ways with better value one card at a time (ex. like an archetypical Dark Ruler No More) through going 2nd. Dark Ruler No More was a fantastically designed card that keeps combo decks in check. More of that design will help make the game more healthy overall.

@@jvsonic2468 I agree but if we don't have them during certain formats we might be throwing away our only way to win. I was saying if we ban Veiler and Imperm and make at least 1 new once per turn version we can make the hand trap wars healthier. This also doesn't exclude hand trap enjoyers who don't prefer board breakers. Essentially the idea is to balance the hand trap wars instead of stopping them. The problem with that board breaker is whatever board breaker they come up with would need to be a mix of Dark Ruler and Evenly Matched because Konami has and will produce cards with weak stats. The only way make Dark Ruler work for example is cards like Garunix Eternity. The Multcharmy cards fixes it through deck building influence and doesn't make us wait for cards we might have to wait years for. If decks other than decks like Kashtira can't bust a combo decks board then they will lose as they slowly get out advantaged.

I agree, tho I don't think Caesar is getting banned, maybe beatrice

@@invertbrid My reasoning is handling the real problem is better than not allowing decks like Snake-Eye exist. If Apallousa is banned Konami can continue making decks consistent. There will always be a best deck. But if cards like Apallousa are banned combo decks won't be so powerful that we can't wait for other decks to catch up and be in a hurry for a ban list.

Lmao bro these players are wild. If I'm playing against fiendsmith snake eyes. There's no card currently available I can draw going second. All these players just want to create 10+ interruptions through 3 handtraps going first and feeling good to know they've handlooped you because you 100% lose

It says from the deck and/or extra deck not hand Yugioh players will never get past the "not reading" allegations at this rate

@@reirei_tk interesting take. So maxx C would be less likely to be countered with malchummy existing coz going second player has more maxx C than going first player out

Thats why its an archtype if they ban maxx c they want you to use some combination of them since most likely we will be getting the 3rd one

But then there are cases where the going second opponent draws both Maxx c and fuwaross and now it doesn’t matter whether the going first player drew the out or not cause they’ll just chain the second one afterwards

So their solution to Maxx C deciding games is printing another card that is an auto-include so that almost 1/2 of your deck is already determined before you've even begun?

@@Djseemers drawing both is just as likely as drawing ash/called by (for example).

Makes the discard effect of multcharmy pointless

@mileserwin yeah I forgot about the check at the end. I thought it was 'your end phase' rather than 'the end phase', my bad for not reading

You need double crossout This card is twice per turn you can chain it with other copy.

You might as well have said apollousa instead of link 4.