I think the lines about worrying for her sons and them only riding dirt bikes "for now" could be a clear foreshadowing of a possible Abel & Tommy Teller sequel series
Won't happen, Sutter the world creator has ended all ties with FX (Disney) who own the rights to the stories. Any hope for a Prequel or further Spin-Off are all but dead!
@tombenjamin9924 Even so, I think the fanbase is too big to have the SOA universe just die. I think it continues one way or another. It could be under a different showrunner, or Disney could sell the rights, or Sutter could even come back. Where there's a will, there's a way and money talks.
Doubt it unless they pay Sutherland a shit tone of money he created two scripts for a prequel smacrow show called the frist 9 and a script about jacks sons comeing back to take what’s theirs he copyrighted them and owns them
@@anthonycampos8057 I think he did love her, especially in S7. He got to really know her and truly see her for the first time during that season and I think he began to love her. Of course he would always love Tara more, she had a hold on him. But honestly I appreciated Wendy/Jax much more because they reached a level of true understanding with each other that Tara and Jax never did. Also I personally believe you can’t truly love someone without reaching that level of understanding.
@@nyeishaclark95What level of understanding? I never saw it. Jax always treated her like a pimple. He always chose Tara over her. Hell, when Wendy got kidnapped by Galen and was holding her hostage, what was Jaxs response? "Does he know shes not my wife?" He had to be talked into rescuing her. He stuck her with a needle later on. In season, 7 she stepped up for the boys after Tara got killed. He gained alot of respect for her. But there was never that deep understanding. He didnt love her.
@@anthonycampos8057 in the earlier seasons he literally only saw her as a problem, he told her she was never going to get close to able. But in S7 he not only allowed her to take care of Abel AND Tommy, he also openly told Abel she was his mother because he finally understood after everything they have been through that she literally just wanted to help and be there for him and the boys. He understood that she is actually a good person and it was the drugs that messed her up, it allowed for him to trust her and to let Abel know her as his mother and not just some lady that watches over him. Not only that but he is allowing Tommy to also look to her as a mother. BECAUSE they reached that level of understanding, also on Wendy’s side she was able to understand that for Jax, trust means everything, she broke that trust when she went toward drugs and put her own sons life in danger and that’s why he didn’t care about her in the earlier seasons. Wendy was able to understand this about Jax and THATS why she ended up coming clean about Gemma and Juice and all of that, she knew that she had finally got his trust back and if he found out she knew the trust would be broken again so he told him. That’s what I mean by reaching a level of understanding. They finally saw and understood each other in the end. Tara and Jax for me never truly understood each other and I feel like you can’t have true love until you can understand each other. Plus Wendy and Jax were able to see the true worst and best of each other and accept it, something Tara couldn’t do either. Yes in the earlier seasons he didn’t care about her, that’s my whole point, that by the end they reached a level of understanding for each other, and by the end, I believe Jax had grown to truly see, understand, and love her. It may not have been the all consuming love he had for Tara, but it was still love. If Jax hadn’t of wanted to die and lived on with Wendy and his kids, I do think they probably would be married but happily married in that they now understand each other, but that just wasn’t his fate.
Lol her comment of if they are cool or not isn’t in the past tense it’s if they are cool now her and Nero cut ties trying to keep Jax’s sons out of it she dosent know if the peace he made stands or if the war is back on
at one time the these 2 were riding with each other holding each other down in prison so she's not wrong.. but she could have said her ex ride bikes and that would have been enough no need of clubs be mentioned
Don’t think she knew much if you remeber the sons and Mayans were cool before Jax did what he did. He and Alvarez embraced heavely Wendy wouldnt know about club biz that deep. She wa smart not to mention them
@@justinpigg1694e could’ve left he was in a Club line but added “He’s not around anymore; he died a few years back in an accident an now it’s just her & her Sons & hasn’t doesn’t keep in contact with anyone from his Club since he passed its probably for the best.
At least we know that she still clean and her sons are grown now and the only ride dirt I've always wanted to know what happened to them after the show
@@DodgerFan1988there was 4 shows planned but without Kurt idk if there will be another. It was gonna be SoA, Mayans, the first 9 and then Abel and Thomas.
Dirt bikes for now in show time is about the same as real time so able should be around 16/17 and outside of the charming chapter the sons see Jaxs as a traitor no one’s sticking there neck out to sponsor him
This is one of those moments where you just have to be thankful we got to see some SOA original cast members in this last season. Kurt Sutter really fucked this show by getting himself fired when the show was getting good
@@mr.tobacco1708you hear that from Kurt’s Twitter account or his truth social account ? Lol I heard that too. Then I heard about Clayton and some of the actors complaints about him being an abrasive dick
Sons of Anarchy was Jax , the individual going through his own story. The Mayans is so far from what I thought it would be. Such a shame because it had so much potential.
@keno2285A problem with Kurt Sutter he hasn't been writing on the show since the end of the second season you had a big beef with FX and Disney and left the show So what are you talking about That's exactly when the right and started going downhill eldrin James is nowhere near the writer Kurt Sutter is
*accurate title: Jax Teller's baby mom saves EZ and shows him respect.* them sons fans is big mad. they said EZ wants to be Jax so bad but Wendy says Jax is like him.
Lol…you tried so hard to make that connnection but you made no sense. The fact that Jax was older than EZ, in a he club life before him, a VP before him, and a pres before him, literally means that if anything EZ would be like Jax because Jax is the precedence in the comparison.
@@Redsdelight I didn't try very hard honestly. Age is just a number, everyone knows that, so placing Jax on a pedestal over EZ just because he existed before EZ got out of prison makes no sense either. Jax may have been smarter, but EZ is twice as strong physically and would absolutely pummel jax. and he took much less time to become a fearsome leader, Jax always acted on his own emotions or for tara and never in the clubs best interest, EZ always acts in the Mayans best interest as he was also not selfish and careless enough to bring kids into the world being in that life. The sons may have had much greater funding and admittedly better writing, but you cant be the precedence to anything or anyone as an immensely inferior asset all because "you were there first". that ain't how the world works.🤡
@@jaydonthomas427 I literally do not care about anything else you said other than the first sentence. It’s real simple, Jax is dead and gone, he did it first. It’s impossible for Jax to be like EZ. Because Jax did it first, anything EZ does as president that is similar to Jax, would mean that EZ is like Jax, not the other way around. What you’re saying in the timeline is literally impossible, which means the veiled shot that you took at fans of SOA is stupid. That’s like saying Magic Johnson played like Lebron. The proper statement would be Lebron plays like Magic Johnson did. (Just a random example)
Many fans hoping Jax's son will be part of the club in the future installment, but I cant see that's a good thing. If Jax's son join SOA, his death would be meaningless....
Yeah but i think it would be cool to see a series with at least able joining the club being Wendy’s son, and Thomas being tara’s who never really belonged in the life and tried to leave it, he could be the good son who is conflicted with his brother.
Plus it's just goofy and corny. "Yanowhat yanowha ya know what it would be weally cool if him and his brother have motorbycles and they go VROOOMMMM" Unless you're 10, mentally ill or a pedophile, there's no legit reason why you want a show about Abel Especially when the other option is first 9 Now I could get behind a Jimmy Smits Byz lat show
True but sometimes everyone can’t have what they wish even in death. Look what happened to John Teller, he didn’t want Jax involved with the club and look how that turned out. If Abel were to ever join the SOA, it’ll be because of writing for a spin-off show with him. Folks may not like it, but hey 🤷♂️
I was kind of hoping Jax name would have been brought up but to see this scene and to know that Abel and Thomas are already riding, that spin-off is coming soon
I was hoping for a flashback scene from when EZ was doing time in Stockton at the same time as the Sons. Maybe a quick interaction between Jax & EZ. Jax dropping some knowledge which stuck with EZ (since they’re so similar)
@@tobe1207 Fs. And I'm probably on the minority but I personally found her hotter on SOA with the dirty biker girl with high boots look. She was more conventionally attractive on Sopranos though.
EZ was limping just like Jax, Achilles heal injury.....I like how they (the writers) kept to the literature and poetic references.......showing vulnerability and pain..🥀🥀🥀💔💔💔🌹🌹well done Sits!!
@@jorgemeneses5889 he killed gabby to protect angel and the other club members with him a reason jax's been dead for 10 years at this point there would be no reason to kill her
Well a white man shouldn't be writing for a Latin biker show he should've just stayed on as creator of the soa universe but have the diversity of Latin writers
Very upset with this episode and this season I don’t know why we needed so many fillers I mean another filler before the finale I expected this episode to be wild. I hope we get a spin off of something even if it’s a new club or a charter or just something, season 5 should have been the best season and I think it’s the worst
Unless he hoses back to charming he can’t unless he joins a different club Jax’s was kicker out and voted to be killed couse he killed a follow sons president no one outside of charming who had his back will sponsor him and from what we’ve seen in Mayans thoses members are growing smaller and smaller
Her nerve to say she cleaned up Jax’s mess-he left her Teller Morrow and a good piece of Red Woody, she’ll be eternally protected by the club, as will the kids, and she’s chilling up in NorCo w/ Nero. What “mess”?
Jax had a poor possible junkie(reaper) following him the whole series I’m wondering if Wendy is EZs reaper and will come back and let him know when it’s his time
That's not a reaper 😂 when is a reaper able to eat body and blood of Christ a reaper never eats and there's only one in existence at all times for there to be a new one the old has to be no more and those he is Jesus and death are not friends he is the only one to laugh death in the face not once or twice but three so ask yourself what can consume that a being of light both ez and jax are angels of vengeance but both were consumed by it if any death or evil eat the body of Christ they will burn
In the end Jax knew Wendy was the best for the boys. Plus never know if Wendy is only talking about Abel & Thomas when referring to her Sons ... Jax Jr.? ...plot thickens 😂
no she wasn't Tara was the best option but she died she was close to having a normal life wih her sons if Unser didn't open his mouth to Gemma that would have never happen remember that Wendy let go if custody for Abel but for some reasons she thought at some point she needed to come back in Abel life
I just find it so cool that he doesn’t even know that she was once with the king of the sons. The most brutal warrior for them. I wonder what ez might’ve done or said to Wendy if he found out her ancient ties to the MC. Not only as a crow eater but literally love ties to the father of the 2 princes of samcro
@@MalcolmRandall he killed her to protect his blood brother and club brothers a reason i didnt say he wouldn't kill i said he wouldn't kill without a reason
I hope they don’t do a follow up of the boys joining SAMCRO. Jax did everything he could to get them away from that life. He didn’t want that for his sons.
Right but maybe something good will come out of it, maybe I'll be messy at first but become legitimate, what better way to end the show with a new samcro but without the guns and drugs, just some lads continuing the legacy and remembrance of everyone beforehand.
LOL wendy (Drea de Matteo) clearly doesn't learn. I thought she was supposed to have gone to mexico with Nero. Wendy is on only fans now lol. BTW what club especially mother club but any club president rides alone even if they want &/or demand it. Someone always rides with them or a few milies back just close enough to keep an eye on them & swoop in if needed Like this. What a bunch of crap why I didn't watch much of mayans stories are even more BS then the SOA are.
Not really for two reasons 1) you need a Harley to be a SOA and it can’t be a peace of crap his mom and Nero arnt going to buy him one so he’s probley looking at a year or three before he has one witch leads two reason 2) time is not his father’s brothers are driping in number you need a sponsor then a unanimous vote to get in if someone jumps chapters he can be stoped by just voting no
@@seanbraley2772 when they turn 18 they could get jobs, earn enough money to get a real bike. Just off their last name alone, they would have no problem getting sponsored.
@@GV213 in charming maybe but in SOA in gen no Jax and Clay are tradioters to them they killed fellow members Clay killed john and jax killed jarry and they need to own the bikes out right thats 2 to 3 years working the kinda jobs theyd get by then one of the other club members ight have jumped chapters meaning they vote no no patch
I think its b,s the writers should have wrote jaxx presences into this scene wendy should have told easy who her ex was the legendary jaxx Taylor the president of the sons of anarchy mother chapter making him the defacto international president
Jax had a poor possible junkie(reaper) following him the whole series I’m wondering if Wendy is EZs reaper and will come back and let him know when it’s his time
A full length movie with the offspring of the jax, a son from wendy and tara , that didn't know of each other. They become brothers of the patch before they know the truth, and start a new chapter at the end of the movie .. call it SONS
An Abel/Thomas spin-off is an absolutely horrible idea!! Jax and Tara literally sacrificed their lives to save those boys from that life. Tara literally went against all morality to protect and Jax destroyed all ties with then so they could grow up hating him and through that the club life that took their mother from them! An Abel/Thomas spin-off means shitting not only on Jax’s but also JT’s legacy and perpetuating the idea that no one can escape that toxicity, which would be downright depressing not to mention lazy writing (when you think about it for more than 2 seconds). Failing to protect 2 generations if one family from the club life is just too much. It means 7 years of build-up going down the drain for the sake of fanservice which always equals horrible storytelling. Ppl asking for that spin off really make me think that they missed the entire point of the show. Even the First 9 prequel would hold more weight than seeing Abel and Thomas join the life that no one wanted them to.
Drea De Matteo.....one of the sexiest women on 🌎! And as most gorgeous women, she just gets even better with age. The cliche about women being like 🍷 is definitely true
They should fast forward to Abel and Thomas becoming adults. Throw in a twist of Thomas going into law enforcement and Abel following his father’s footsteps.
It's been a long time that Wendy returned after Sons of anarchy season 7. I can't believe she mentioned Jax. But she didn't say his name though. She mentioned she's still looking after Abel and Thomas at the farm where they live with Nero.
Wendy was such a waste of a scene in this episode, we have 1 episode until this show is over and done. The only redemption this bikerverse has is topping jax teller, setting abel and thomas down the same path as jax and ez, killing wendy off and building a new future for samcro. I liked mayans but now it's just been a bunch of filler, boring lame filler, just an episode of sons of anarchy and your set for the entire series, 1 episode of mayans season 5 and you feel like your watching the first season.
The writing this season is soooo whacky. Literally every storyline of the show is getting super rushed but they think it's a good idea to give Wendy of all people 25% of the second last episode forliterally no reason. I've never seen writers of a show seem more lost, this is way worse than the end of GoT.
Unpopular opinion but I always felt that Jax and Wendy had more chemistry on screen and that Jax and Tara were forced together. Yes Jax treated Wendy terribly in the beginning but she always understood the life in the mc way more then Tara ever did.
@keno2285they already crapped on his wishes didn’t get out of guns and clearly Wendy is foreshadowing dirt bikes as motorcycles this show just made it seem like sons of anarchy was all for nothing
Mayans M.C. is such a mess. Only cameos of original SoA characters make it worth to watch. However even these cameos are mostly made without any respect to the roots of the show.
i was hoping for abit of excitement in this episode before the series finale. what a let down this season was. who cares about emily, where is samcro, too many storylines it hurts my head.
I love how people act like SOA was just perfect remember seasons 5&6 were shit, last season left many loose ends but since it was more emotional than Mayans with the JT highway chase final scene that seems to cover up for the mess of the last seasons of SOA.
It’s funny you talk about how crappy soa is but yet Mayans have to involve sons and there characters just to save the ratings and Mayans sucked so bad it still got cancelled lol. Sutter is sitting back laughing at this terrible show lol jokes on Disney, fx, and Elgin James for this jumbo of diarrhea this is lol
Amazing how they waste a whole season on bullshit side plots when this was supposed to be e a war and now they throw in another useless cameo, a sex scene with ez which was pointless AF and Isaac having trouble killing Filipe when they manage to capture a ton of Mayans and burn them alive🤦 😂
Wendy spoke truth about the sadness of not knowing if he’s coming home, sadder that with all these shootings at civilians at schools and banks etc it’s even more now