Myself doing the Mayday class, put on by Chief Jerry Paris and staff, obstacle course. Remember, when your putting the mayday out, LUNAR. L-Location. U-Unit. N-Name. A-Assignment. R-Resources. www.maydaytraining.com
Been there done this in a unventilated Railroad box car in middle of a Hot Humid day. I did in 1987 Ohio Fire School. This course did not have a tube the size of a 55 gallon drum. That was tough to get through. Had to take off air pack & crawl through. Nice to see training of Fire Fighters.
My low air alarm would have been going off at min 3 lol I suck down so much air. I hate those entanglement boxes. Just get low and put your cylinder into the corner and swim thru. And well done with the maydays.
Just did a very similar course this past weekend.... only we had to take the halligan bar with us through the entire course.... made things a bit more difficult..... great training though!
@rugbyfan33 same here. I hate the entanglement box but it teaches you a lot. I always get really mad in those and end up hitting the sides and saying every cuss word in the dictionary.
Love seeing these videos. I would really like to do those ones with my youth fire fighter club. THat would be amazing. but we do a lot more training with the procedure than with these kind of things.
The box with the ropes draped down like wires made me think of a video I saw where firefighters were doing overhaul, and the ceiling drywall had collapsed, and the plastic had burned off all the insulated flex-duct for HVAC in the house. big loops of coiled steel wire dangling everywhere. Would be absolutely horrible to hit in a no-visibility situation
Fast way to get through wires put ur bottle in one of the bottom corners so ur laying on ur back slash side and then make a swimming motion with ur arms. If he did that would have gone through that box in 10s or less
I was taught to use my halligan or flat axe as an option instead of sweeping. Like you said, put your bottle in the corner and put your tool over your head some one end is on the floor and the other on the wall where your bottle is and it does a good job of sweeping away the entanglements.
Is this the same Jerry Paris from down near Colonie NY? If so I took firefighter survival at Montour Falls Firefighting Academy about 10 years ago and he was the instructor, he was a hard ass but I learned a lot from him and he made me realize the importance of training hard and often. He's blunt which is good, doesn't sugar coat anything and if anybody has the opportunity to take a course with him then I highly recommend it!
Way to go!! =) Those wires would have got me... I def need to work on that haha. I'm a pretty small girl so I dont need to drop my pack very often.... Only gone through a wire box once and got stuck a little bit. I guess It didnt help that my partner left me and I was screaming at her to come back and wait for me to get out first lol.
i would love to run this course! we trained on all the obstacles separately, but together, blacked out while following the hose? really would love to train on this
Question, were you blindfolded? Because in my class we did everything similar but blindfolded. We even had to drag a dummy and another firefighter through the box with all the wires in blindfolded. It was hell, anyways good job completing it.
Excellent training session that at one day could potentially save there life. I like how everyone was taking it serious and not treating it like a joke.
They should be going through this with a tool as well, gets you used to using the tool to get through. There's a million ways to do this kind of thing, change it up often so people don't get used to the same props.
What's the point of the stuff at 1:00 ?? Someone elaborate, I have not seen it before but figured it was for if something fell on you but they just let him go.
man that final step would have sucked haha. Also if you guys pay close attention you can see at the very end the gal on the right removes a plastic wrap type deal from the fire fighters lense. Most likely they where giving a "blured" vision for smokyness with some visability.
It looked like he was blindfolded since he was struggling to determine the male/female end of the coupling around 1:48. I have done a course with a gray screen on my mask to simulate smoke so I wasn't completely blindfolded but couldn't see very well either.
I took the RFFT class @ Montour Falls in 2006. Jeff Paris had us doing the 'Marine Corps" rifle prayer to our SCBAs. He states he was a Marine. His class did nothing to instill confidence in the trainees. Sending FFs through the course with less than a full bottle and screaming and yelling and threatening is not a way to develop a calm demeanor during a crisis. Had I not been on probation, Mr Paris would have been picking his teeth up off the floor. You were a MARINE, right?
@cgfdny255 At Montour he was abusive, not projecting, and he got off on it. His reputation with the career Depts in the Capital District is not positive, in the Fire Service, reputation is all you got. Not that it matters, but I have 12 years in service, 4 in Schenectady on Hamilton Hill (he wouldn't last 5 minutes there), and 2 in my current job in a different state. Time in the service doesn't count if you don't have time on fire ground- EXPERIENCE is everything. Id NEVER work w him
Its all in your head you have to understand your situation and your surroundings like the hose feel around feel the course like the box the ropes and make a map in your head then navigate the course
1st why is he alone i know its a drill but its 2 in and 2 out when i train i always have another guy with me. Plus this guy didnt even know that the way he was following out was a male end but he must be a rookie. Hope he gets a little more training.
Mine don't either but there are other techniques to get through. I'm 250 lbs and wear a 52" jacket so I've got some wide shoulders. Throw on bunker gear and an SCBA and I'm a moose but I can get through. I was taught to sit with my back to the opening so my bottle rests on the bottom plate of the wall. Then swim on arm over my shoulder and through the opening so your body corkscrews through. It works really well.
Nothing bothers me more than watching training videos where the FAT instructor is barking orders or standing around watching the rooks go through the course. Officers and Sr members need to Lead NOT Lean!
