@Robert Brody but it's an appliance on wheels! it's dumpster juice in car form. Like cheering on the fire ants in my back yard that are eating a bug, there ain't life there!
If you're giving me a choice to choose between these two for free of charge. I'd always choose McLaren just to resell it and buy Plaid which can do daily duties, free charge at work, and smoke supercars on the way, and still have about £200k left in the bank to retire.
@@LVROULETTE well especially when they want you to buy an EV because it's "safer" but all the electricity they used comes from dirty burnt coal and mostly oil and oil products. Soo no. Not better. Edit, It's not about about the damage caused by warming it's about running out of usable fuel. And now we're forcing people to drive cars with these massive batteries that aren't good for the environment because we're straightmining all of our damn lithium and kobalt. What do you think is going to happen when we run out?
Teslas are really only fast off the line. Anything in the same power band smokes them top end. The 0-150mph time of a model3 performance vs a mustang gt , camero ss, or scatpack is sad
@@ispeedalot I've seen video that contradicts your statement especially in regards to them heavy ass scat packs, I saw a gt barely take one in a qtr mile but again I was on a light and from that light 200 feet to the nest light, it looked like someone picked up and put it down with no torque no fuss just zip fuckin zap.
@movitz1579 wow imagine it taking 20 min to fill up 80% of your gas tank 😅 most people will never drive at the speeds a tesla can do... but everyone runs out of juice.
I have a Model X Plaid and a Ferrari FF, and I can honestly tell you the Model X Plaid is insanely fast; however, it's only good on a straight, brakes are horrible, and it can't do crap in the curves. Going fast straight gets utterly old, but the sound of a naturally aspirated V12 is music to the ears!
@@54356776 we all know it's a fast refrigerator. Appliance with no soul. Big block 72 Chevelle will still get more attention, even if it's slower. And we don't even care. The Chevelle will absolutely scare most normal people with it's visceral nature, and pure mechanical satisfaction of a Muncie 4 speed with a hurst shifter.
People forget the difference between speed and acceleration. The only thing a Tesla beats any car in is acceleration. It’ll never hold that high a speed bc of the heat and then there are many cars with a top speed far surpassing a Tesla that also handle way better. Tesla is king at one thing and it’s acceleration.
Other then being staged. There is a guy with a Tesla plaid who upgraded it the most he could he didn't change to much but took off as much weight as possible along with a few minor upgrades. Even if it wasn't a joke or staged the Tesla would of won still. If ya don't believe me just look it up. Dude beats pretty much every vehicle except the fast ass motorcycles that take off as fast as they do. Now this guy might of thought he'd win once he got up to speed but the take off time and time it takes to accelerate is what gives the Tesla the room to win.
@@oniichann7170no one cares about his Tesla. That’s why he needs to stage it. Everyone knows a Tesla has high torque and the build quality of a developing countries goverment.
@@bakedpuffins2303 your right. Speed is speed. But the quality is different. It’s like comparing microwaved pizza versus oven pizza. The oven pizza solos
@UO_duck-6 There is a genuine difference when you cook foods with different appliances, but speed is 100% objective and for the longest time was the deciding factor for comparing cars.
@@filipwalczak1447 You're odd if you don't like the smell of some high octane swill, esp. after its be through a high compression ICE. Enjoying an odour is much different than concentrating and insufflating its source. It's not cheap to maintain an EV. My parents "car phone" worked fine, flip phones rule and my rotary phone works great, though instead of good old copper pair, I've had to modernize to fibre Keep learning and be grateful if you are fortunate enough to reach 40. Many of you don't. Dinosaurs ruled the world, but like everything everything else on this great planet, they died. Youth is lost on the young.
Those Teslas are nuts I’ve seen those things takeoff and made my feel as if I wasn’t even moving. Hate them or love them, that’s an amazing work of engineering.
The Tesla model S is over 1,000 horsepower from the factory all-wheel drive. Why would you underestimate that car, especially the drag strip when you need traction?
We do not underestimate the car, all teslas are quick, not fast, even if a tesla was faster than a McLaren it would still lose in a race, that is because refueling a gas engine takes only a few seconds instead of hours and hours; i also personally despise tesla because of the shitty build quality and lack of any improving features over the other cars in the market, and also the problems that they created and solved with a transaction or a worse fix to make it more complicated than it should be, the only good thing those cars have is the autopilot that i have to admit is pretty cool, but i would still not trust it
@@Raceswaphe just mad some valid points I don’t think he is hurt he just doesn’t find a Tesla impressive car people don’t like them For 3 reasons 1) It’s not fun to watch a race with a 30min intermission while the cars charge (course not strip racing) 2 the silence (you want the noise cos it gives you a serotonin rush hearing engines 3 they can’t be improved through tuning and have very little to know mods being manufactured so they all look like a stock sedan
Not to mention electricity in it is being governed. Because electricity is essentially INSTANT. It's the new "dumbest argument" since the "Automatics versus Manuals" or the "Ar15 versus AK47" .... just plainly dumb...
I don’t remember who said it but he said “ don’t buy a Tesla pretending you’re saving the world, buy it because you like how fast it goes from 0 to 60” something like that, not an exact quote but similar
Wowww a 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid does in fact run a sub 10 1/4 mile. That is pretty outstanding. I'd still take a 12 second car with a gas motor, but ANYTHING sub 10 second from the factory is wild.
@@ryanmorse1165for 100k you get a car that can beat super cars. Now I dislikes teslas however the plaid is by far the best speed for your buck off the factory and battery and alllat prices are nothing in comparison to a super car maintenance costs
You sound like the big turbo fwd Honda guys from back in the day… let’s go from a 100mph roll. Then I’ll smoke you. Run what you brung and hope it’s enough.
Yup. Tesla is the new point and shoot. Toss in the turns and braking and let's see who wins. I have not been to a DE in years, I wonder how many Teslas go.
How are they not ideal? The only problem i see with them is the long charging times other than that they are equally as good as if not better than ICE cars
@@ganymede6535 $$$$$$, crap range, doesn't work below 40F, fires that cannot be extinguished, more weight, electricity is the most difficult energy to produce yourself.. and more.
@@ganymede6535 depends on your location, but lack of charging infrastructure, inconsistent charging infrastructure, unreliable charging infrastructure, having to plan to the nth degree any journey beyond a modest distance, (if you can get home fine, but on journeys that you cant, its a ballache) appalling residual values, much higher insurance cost, increased tyre wear and replacement cost ...
@@Mark13091961 the country that i live in is really small so i dont have to worry about that. Besides i dont even have a driver license nor car so i am not fussing about that right now. But i have heard and even researched about the US powergrid and they said that it can with stand electric cars charging on it and some even said that it is helping the grid
@@jimmyv1753 Yeah, I remember word processors. But Norman Mailer wrote his manuscripts with a pen - he wouldn't even use a typewriter. Some people liked the physical feel of handwriting or typing - after years, you don't want to change.
Have you seen the Electric Formula 1 cars racing? It's weird to watch because there's no noise. Not sure how they compare to the motored cars, but it's still good racing!
i do give a shit, so you statement is now Irrelevant. That McLaren has a Battery too. It won't go Nowhere without Electricity Powering Soo Many Things.
@@danamal2225that’s the sound of your expensive gas going nowhere. Smart people don’t care about what car people think. Yall are just brainwashed into thinking a car that runs on any other engine than gasoline is gay. People from the 1900s would be amazed at EVs
@@zinnmann3883 Yea the launching off the line is fun in an electric car for a while, but the sound of an amazing cars engine roaring as you go is so much better. I would take a vtec'd miata over a tesla and have so much more fun throwing it around a track.
I heard Joe Rogan say it best... "if I wanna go fast, I'll take my Tesla... if I wanna have fun, I'm taking a muscle car" Jay Leno said something very similar... and like them or not, ya can't really argue that they know their cars
The Tesla's are designed for driving around. Street muscle cars are designed for different things. They're also more expensive to buy, own and run. When they start building EVs for the same purpose they'll kill the ICE vehicles. Tesla's aren't built for the race track.
There's not enough material on earth to switch to all electric everything. What's happening is that all the oil is being sucked up too fast. We need to have a savings account of fossil fuels, and yet they're being used up like a mofo
Now show efficiency curve of the power to charge vs the miles driven over gas. You can charge a Tesla in a couple hours to go 300 miles with a Gen that only used 3 gals of gas.
And thats a valid reason to not want a tesla. Tired of seeing kids shitting on it for no actual reason other than because their peers/people they look up to shit on it
@@andrewknox927I suppose I can say more about why I prefer regular cars... it is possible to fix on themselves yourself might be one reason. I am not a fan of " soundless " vehicles. I don't mind electric cars at all, I simply prefer gasoline engines. When something sounds a bit off, I usually know what the issue is, and can fix it myself.😊
@@KL-xj5vz Fremont being the worst. Adapted from an ex legacy, it is not a true giga factory and is very cramped. Yes giga Shanghai has better quality.
The thing a lot of people don't understand is the power in electric motors are is readily available and released almost instantaneously. while combustion engines need to create the energy to be released, which can take considerably longer.
Because you’re not paying for acceleration in a straight line. It’s like saying “my air fryer cooks faster than your outdoor grill, and the price difference is the hilarious part”
@@LuKiSCraft Lies as there is no official time of the 765 on the Nurburgring. Unofficially the 765 did it in 6:57 while the Tesla did it in 7:35.6 officially. So either way, you’re wrong. Glad to know you agree.
@@leonflaithiuil6596 I'd be interested to see an actual official time. And Model S was 7:25, not 7:35. Still higher, So okay, fair. You have a point. But the difference between 6:57 vs 7:25 for 5X the cost doesn't amount to an "air fryer vs an outdoor grill" LOL. That analogy is hyperbole, to say the least.
@@L1VE3V1L you see you say that but there is much more than speed, sound and tactile sensations from an engine are why car guys are car guys, the tesla is like a steak being cooked by a microwave, yes its faster, its gonna taste like shit compared to a grilled steak tho, there will be no complexity in its flavor and really over all taste like nothing, all and all, speed is one of the last reasons car guys like cars
@@infinityinfinityinfi You said "would" so you are a brokey and thus your opinion doesn't matter as you haven't yet developed a taste for the finer things.
NAW, just geared to get ton of wheel torque at low speed. Do a rolling start from 60 mph and the McLaren wins walking away. Tesla craps out at 100, the McLaren is just warming up…
But even when it’s on the freeway, it can pull away for a good distance. My friend driving his Tesla had to pull away from Camaro since the ahole wouldn’t let him get in front of him to exit. It’s not just from starting launch.
@HansCoche Serious though; would it? If it had a charging station at every stop, and it loses 20 min every charge, you lose 10 min every tank, he will be stopping at least 3 or 4 times to your 1, but can run 130 mph without throwing a con rod, 65/70 tops in the 1300? I don't know if it is cut and dry, and I don't want to truly do the math right now but it has me curious. lol.
@@travisgrimm Lol. I won't do it in anything, I'm too lazy to even do the math. Those little samurai's can be a little top heavy on a short wheelbase, which makes them a little bit fun off road. A good friend of mine had one back in the 90's. Sketchy and gutless, but we found some ways to have fun in it.
I drove a geo metro with the same engine, and they are a slug, sure 30 mpg. but it doesn't go over 60 to 70 downhill. 12 inch rims and a bad cv joint will leave you stranded on the side of the road. It takes 4 to 6 hours to replace just one side. But 240k miles on a crappy 4 cylinder that's worth 300 bucks is not a bad deal, I guess.. you can save money on a casket when you get in an accident with a full size car or a log truck, then you don't have to worry about a casket or cremation the coroner can just put you in a bag.
@@aqua.snipesnobody is mad a ‘Tesla’ can smoke a supercar😂it takes a dumbass to even think that. Amy actaul car person knows a Tesla will win on a drag race. It’s a lightweight rc cars😂just alot of pole like you don’t realize the mclaren is still faster the Tesla is just quicker
@@G82Watts You can’t compare a family sedan to a supercar with like a v10 or v12. Like obviously a tesla isn’t cool compared to a Jesko or Gamera, but it’s also only a fraction of the price, and can accelerate just as fast while literally being a family sedan.
Instant flat line torque from an electric motor in an all-wheel drive car is unbeatable. It's just physics. An electric motor will always destroy an ICE producing power in a straight line.
@@The_muslim_maurauderLol nope. They are fast on the initial acceleration and fast on small straight lines....People already tested 911 vs cyberpunk or model 3s...The 911 shits on them if it is a decent length road.
@@randomyoutubecommentersecu7639 lol NOPE. They are fast on the initial acceleration enough to leave ANY car in the dust and have higher top speed to surpass them in the end without a sweat. "People already tested a cyberpunk or model3 with 911" Really? So they tested a 6600lb pickup truck and a $28k family sedan against the 150k sports car? Omg this is so hard to guess who won! Such a fair and accurate price, level, degree of cars to compare it to! If you wanna compare a 30k family car then an f16 fighter jet absolutely shits on the 911 with long enough road 😎😎🔥🔥 HAHA SUCK KT my jet is faster! Yeah that's how dumb your comparison is. Why aren't you comparing it against something its own size, but still is 2x cheaper and fits 3x more people? The model s plaid DESTROYS the 911 any day all day. And without software limiter it reaches top speed above 216mph, making it faster than a McLaren 765, 720, Lambo, huracan, almost every Ferrari, literally every porche except 918 etc.
Electric cars will always have a faster acceleration. There’s no transmission. A fixed gear set. It gets instant torque it’s connected directly to the motor
And also slower deceleration, because of all the weight. No amount of brakes or low center of gravity are going to fix the bottleneck of the tires not being able to provide adequate traction for all that weight.
