MD-80 & MD-90 - the middle class 

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> The MD87 was an excellent airplane for hot and high airports as well as possessing long range. < It used the same brakes as the original MD-80's, so it was also a good island hopper: With brakes from a 140K#-sized aircraft dropped into a substantially lighter plane, it could do lots of quick-turnaround short flights without running into brake temperature delays.

HI back. I was an airline rep. during the 90's, and drove by the DAC plant only yesterday. The entire area has changed, and frankly I will never forgive those "characters" who encouraged the Boeing/DAC merger in the first place. They did a great disservice not only to the airline industry, but Southern California as a whole. At one time, the sprawling plant and DAC facilities employed about 50,000 people! At least I have my memories, combined with a few tears as I passed by.

Alex P Thank's for your comment, alot of job's were lost in long Beach including mine. I moved to the central coast and retired up here. Miss those Mad Dogs, great plane's!👍

I worked there too. Flight Dispatcher Commercial and Flight Test also on the C-17. Our office overlooked the flight line and the blast fences. When some of the Airlines took delivery the pilots would do a fly over just above those fences and do a wing wave.

@@alexp3752 Do you know John Olim. He was the MDC Customer Rep for Hawaiian and Air Tran

MD 80 and 81 still fly everyday in Indonesia, from Jakarta to Timika for 4.5 hrs flight, and back.

That's so cool! Thanks for sharing. Would love to see that entire video

@@Dustyred14 Here's some more sharing then: The above mishap was with Ship 909, the first MD-80 to come down the production line and in MDC company livery. The second MD-80 produced, Ship 924, was painted in the new Swissair livery (people were somewhat divided as to the aesthetics of that thick brown stripe along the fuselage) and joined the flight test program. At one point it flew an FAA-required test simulating a hydraulics-out landing. That did not go well, with the aircraft heading off the side of the runway after a few thousand feet, at high enough speed that the main landing gear struts stripped (as they are designed to -- lessens the chance of a fuel tank rupture). There 924 sat, in the dirt, on its belly, until a recovery crane could be brought in to lift it off the ground for some sort of rolling assembly to go underneath it for transport. I wasn't present and don't have all the details, but somehow there weren't enough counterbalancing weights stacked on the backside of the crane. As the crane lifted, it toppled and its boom fell across the middle of the fuselage, causing significant damage. So 924 just couldn't catch a break, and I wouldn't want to be the guy at Long Beach who had to call Swissair to tell them that their plane was, well, getting a bit banged up.

@@marcmcreynolds2827 Happened at Yuma AZ Test Facility for MDC

"You broke our plane! But hey, still seems fine"

They were great..as long as you didn’t sit in the back....where the noise from the engines was literally..unbelievably loud.

But we still have angry puppy...

Yup the 717.

many flights many memories for sure recently I flew on B717 first time ever loved it !

McD-Douglas civil aircraft sucked so it was probably a good thing that they're gone... Just check their safety record-it can't be a coincidence that the overall crash and fatality rates are so high - it kind of shows the flaws in the roots of the company's philosophy IMHO

Tsk, your favorite planes killed too many people.

@@deiest2643 Yep, more like RIP McDD victims... :(

Alien Cat Did the McDonnel Douglas people build the 737 MAX? lol

@@prestonang8216 well, they built flawed planes like the DC10 with its genius(!) Cargo door design... Also, 737Max exactly represents the McD-Douglas mentality continuing within Boeing after they acquired McD-D. That is, minimizing R&D and reusing old designs as much as possible, to cut costs upfront and to roll out planes earlier than competitors (Like DC10 before L1011 and now 737Max attempt to release before A320Neo) so that they can get more orders. Basically disregarding quality and safety for higher profits...

MD88Pilot • Planespotters at JFK always show the Mad Dogs in what seems like a straight-up trajectory - I’ve always loved how those things look like rockets taking off!❤️

9:42, just read comment as he said it 😄

@@rickc303 Didnt get that far lmao.

Flying on a delta md88, connecting to a 717 soon.

Grew up flying in BAC-111’s during the 70’s in the Caribbean. Now those engines are LOUD. The DC-9 replaced them and MD-80’s later. Finally 737 took over. I will always love sitting a couple rows forward of the engines hearing that sweet music and looking at that sweet clean wing in all of its configurations. I have yet to ride on Deltas B717 (MD92) but I live near MSP and watch those little rockets a lot. They shave 30 min off the flight to DEN simply due to their speed advantage. You can clearly see this difference on climb out. Gear up, clean up and they are gone so much faster than the 737’s.

IAE?

**was**

The 717 program was finished several years ago. Production has been closed down completely. Sad. I used to supervise the production of a series of 717's for individual airlines, and it was one of the best airframes I've ever seen. It was a Douglas airplane, of course!

Boeing never produce the B717 (MD95)

Such a great little bird. A rocket. I love watching it at MSP.

@@alexp3752 Did you know John Olim who supervised Hawaiian Airlines production? I used to work in Flight Dispatch building 15

ChevyBM I always enjoyed flying on the Eastern Airlines DC-9s back in the 80s. They were quiet as long as you weren’t seated aft near the engines.

Sorry for your loss man. May he shine as bright in the heavens as he did in life.

2 years ago I saw a few of those Cebu Pacific DC-9's at NAIA rotting away in a remote corner of the airport.

In 2004? Gosh that plane lasts long , because I used to fly with dc9 s In The 70's...when I was a kid .

@@malcolm71 Indeed! But Cebu Pacific has decommissioned them already. The airline now uses Airbus & some Bombardier turboprops.

Missed the DC-9-90ER maybe, or does that not count since it's just a sub-type of the -90?

Lets say, Embraers suck like almost every modern thing. Also the Fokker 70 has been replaced by it.

@@GermanAviation Older jets are bettet, for example Fokker 50/100/70

@@GermanAviation I dont want to hear anything. Bad enough that older planes are gone, oldest i have experienced is MD-11 and 747-400. But i want more classics back

@@GermanAviation fokkers are not that bad right, Fokker 50 70 and 100 are innocent

@@GermanAviation Welp, we have to do it with paper models. I don't think we get nice aircraft in the future. Only fun looking aircraft now is the Comac ARJ-21. It looks very nice

Todd Dembsky • I remember those days and miss them so! I guess it all changed back before terrorism when the little old Japanese lady quite innocently threw some coins into a 737 engine - believing it would bring her good luck!

yeah and i have a flight with a MD88 tomorrow with delta. First and probably last time flying this baby

Enjoy flying on this historic plane. I recommend taking lots pictures/videos.

I FLEW in one of them some months ago, it still flies great it was an MD 90! No problems landing or taking off! They probably keep them for short routes! If they re engine them to get better fuel economy they could stay 20 more years.

@@nikjo213 How did it go? :P

SpeakerPolice well Delta cancelled my flight from DUS to Atlanta so i never got to fly the MD-80 because they rebooked us to Zürich and than to our destination but i got to fly a new 777-300er wich is also really nice