He also has type 2 diabetes so metabolically he literally is broken. Maybe don’t take dietary advice from a genetic freak that uses tons of gear, no disrespect to the man but he isn’t healthy
the best natties I have seen do mixed veggies n fruit instead of rice. Flex or was it Lee Haney I saw said he does the same thing. Rice is not it. There just is not much good competition in bb
@@agnidas5816how would rice not be it? If you are gonna work out you want to get carbs in since they are a great energy source, and rice is one of the best if not best sources for that. Also Flex and Lee were for sure not natty, unless the natties you meant were separate and that was just an example of an Olympia competition that also does that
@@agnidas5816also I’m pretty sure Lee doesn’t do it 100% of the time and probably only did on prep when he’s cutting. He is quoted saying “You can’t get big like a horse and eat like a rabbit” so I doubt he’d be down for a 300 cal chicken and veggie bowl over a rice, chicken, and veggie one
I love how humble his approach is. Given he's the guy who achieved something amazing, he's not saying you must do xyz. Just train and eat well. Simple none of the weird stuff. Loving these straight up videos, Jay!
thats why I think he is the greatest, kept going on for so long againt ronnie who was unbeatable, he managed to stay in an insanly good condition after his prime years, he was always happy for others to win it, you can see it in his genuine smile, looks like a true model citizen, 100% sportmanship 100% professionalism, great inspiration
Imho, You just need some decently digestible meal 1-2 hours before with carbs to fuel an intense workout, then some carbs and high protein around 1 hour after. Also you don't need to be afraid of fats and salt. Don't overdo it, but fat is important for proper hormone production.
Quick protein and fast carbohydrates within 45 minutes after a workout has worked best for me. Then a hour after I will have another meal with protein, healthy fats, carbohydrates, and fiber, then watch the gains happen. 63 natural pro.
*been disproven by singular studies. Not all of them. Reminds me of the aspertain argument regarding diet sodas. Some studies indicate one way, the others opposite.
As long as there is food before or after already in your stomach. Depending on when you take it or how long your workout is. If theres protein synthesis happening from a meal you had before your workout, thats good enough. But if you didnt eat before you will want to have that food in your stomach after your workout
If your eating 5 times a day like these guys it's really hard to screw that up. Plus you should always have something in your stomach if you want to gain. Constant flow of protein and carbs
Thank you for Clarifying :) I am always doubting my ability to digest in time. I kind of feel lack of strength, with the blood flowing to my gut. You know the old saying don´t eat if you are goin swimming. Totally get that, in the gym.
Maybe carbohydrates are the way to go when you are training for Mr. Olympia when you need energy quickly and use all of it. I however will stick to healthy fats, like grass fed butter and quality olive oil etc. Get your energy from fat, cancel bad carbohydrates like white bread, white rice, sugar etc. and if you are lucky: no diabetes till 90.
@@TheBarbellBandit Good point. 👍 When it workes for you its perfect. I guess everybody has to choose for himselve what's best for him, especially when every body has differences in digestion, and genetics.
The research indicates if you are training fasted, you should eat carbs and protein within approximately 1.5 after training. If you eat before training, the post workout meal is less important.
Depends on the physique, goals and the density of the food you ate pre-workout. If you’re a 265lb bodybuilder that just at a meal that was 900-1200 calories with .... even after a brutal leg training session you’re not jumping up to go eat within that hour. If you’re dieting, training with weights twice a day and cardio sessions twice a day and you just ate Tilapia, a 1/4 cup of jasmine rice and some vegetables you’re gonna want that post workout meal ASAP. There are guidelines but you as an individual have to figure out what’s being assimilated through digestion and how you feel (bloated, sluggish, empty and energetic?).
@charmingchowder7997 I would opt for just the avocado. If the shake is meant to be a meal replacement (egg whites, oatmeal, protein powder etc), in my experience avocado digests much easier than nut butters. Otherwise, you can just use the shake as a bridge to the next meal, leaving the fats out and providing the body with the aminos and some quick carb source to replenish glycogen and maintain a positive nitrogen balance. There are always individual factors to consider (like age and training regiment), but that’s my recommendation.
@charmingchowder7997 if that’s working for you keep it. But why use the fish if you have the whey protein? You could just eat the fish normally in a separate meal, which is much better because you’re chewing the food an action that stimulates the vagus nerve that prepares the body for digestion. This in turn leads to better absorption.
@charmingchowder7997 Right on. Good luck with your training/dieting and let me know if you feel the shake digests faster/better for you doing just the avocado. I think you will like the results.
The only reason you want to avoid fat is because it's high in calories. If you replaced your carb calories with fat calories it'd be the same, so long as you kept the calorie count. I do this vegan and get 200g of protein a day, I don't eat much fat either just because its' easy to avoid on vegan unless you eat a lot of peanut butter or avacado type stuff. High protein, high carb. Easy. Loving the results.
I think just logically if you aren't a body builder eat fat pre workout because it provides more energy and is slow burning (eating fat doesn't produce fat)
I hate chicken, I’m a bodybuilder and I avoid chicken until I start cutting. I like to enjoy my bulking periods with red meats, pasta, fish, and some cheat meals. I don’t get fat when I bulk but chicken and rice isn’t gonna get you that size like red meats or pasta
Eating 1 hour before a workout is not ideal as energy and blood flow will be directed towards your digestive system, taking away from your pumps and overall energy. Especially if you’re natty. For max pump and best workouts you want an empty stomach. Full glycogen but an empty stomach.
Imagine how many Mr O he would have won if he did not have to go agaisnt one of the best ever? He would have close to 10 easily. Remember he lost to Ronnie 6 times, and only Coleman was able to beat Mr cutler at his peak
You literally don't need any other diet plan other than chicken and broccoli and some shakes, the hard part is stomaching it long term and growing tired of it
This guy isn’t selling anything so it has me convinced that it works. It’s hard to find valuable advice out here…I’ll listen to jay. It had worked for me, but everyone’s body is different. Depends what your goals are. Blah blah blah. I can’t beleive I’m commenting on another video
