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Measuring Antenna SWR with a NanoVNA 

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This video is a quick primer on how to look at and interpret SWR on a NanoVNA.

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15 июн 2021

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@brentjohnson6654
@brentjohnson6654 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. I needed a refresher as I am trying to tune shark ham sticks on my truck. The sun is washing out the nano-vna and I need to place an umbrella under it. I do love having a network analyzer that fits in my pocket - never thought that would be possible remembering the big units they used to use at work. All the best, 73 de KI5HXM
@amham48
@amham48 Год назад
Thanks for the very straight forward refresher on the NanoNNA-F. I purchased several yeas ago and just pulled it out again. The device is amazingly accurate. Also thanks for the calibration info.
@permanentlypatriotic
@permanentlypatriotic 3 месяца назад
This was great 👍. Got my NanoVNA working just the way I needed it too!
@jcjc4jesus
@jcjc4jesus Месяц назад
Great video, thank you
@miked9104
@miked9104 Год назад
Awesome video! I’m a Tech, getting ready for General test, and starting to plus up my test gear. I’m waiting on a VNA in the mail. Excited 😃😃
@MountainMan7.62x39
@MountainMan7.62x39 9 месяцев назад
This is going to work as a good quickstart guide for me. Thanks.
@g-whiz286
@g-whiz286 2 года назад
Could you be any closer to those power lines?
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
I think the closest that I came was about 25' to them. With a taller antenna, I would have moved farther away. It is a good reminder though to always be cognizant of the power lines. Thanks!
@maxgarascia
@maxgarascia Год назад
You are a great teacher keep up the amazing work it is appreciated
@fotografm
@fotografm 3 месяца назад
Thanks for this great series !
@lyerger8232
@lyerger8232 Год назад
Just bought one. Really like it. Don't know how I ever lived the past 48 years in am Radio without it. lol
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
Glad to hear you are enjoying your new purchase. If you've been in this for 48 years, my guess is that you've had some other excellent equipment along the way.
@geirha75
@geirha75 Год назад
Excellent explanation
@bradleyruhberg8626
@bradleyruhberg8626 2 года назад
Assuming you calibrated the original freq. range, when you changed to 7.0-7.3 is it safe for us to understand that no recalibration is needed as it was within the original range? Thanks for the video.
@malchaschwatrz5706
@malchaschwatrz5706 2 года назад
Well done straight forward explanation. Thank you.
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 2 года назад
You are very welcome. I'm glad that it was helpful. Thanks for writing! 73 - AC3DS
@jerry-suhrstedt
@jerry-suhrstedt Год назад
Dude's got a lavalier microphone. Niiiiiice. (your audio is on point)
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 2 года назад
So, if you're looking at 40M, and you want 7.123 to be at the lowest SWR, but the swr is higher at that frequency than you want it, do you decrease or increase the antenna length (and then check the SWR again)? Thank You!
@PeterJavea
@PeterJavea 2 месяца назад
Hi. Interesting. As a newbie, I have a question. Because we are not transmitting when we use the Nano VNA. Couldn't you leave it on and go shorten or lengthen the whip while watching "live" the changes to the SWR...? Peter Hume ON3VCF
@Andrew-dg7qm
@Andrew-dg7qm Год назад
Very helpful, thank you
@John_Henry83
@John_Henry83 2 года назад
Kudos to you for even mentioning that you need and adapter. I have watch half a dozen videos on the NanoVNA and how to use it for ham radio and NONE of them show an adapter or even mention. Its like the device just magically connects to the feed line.,
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
Thanks John. Sometimes it is the little things (an adapter in this case) that can make or break a day of testing and being on the air. Happy radioing!
@lukeoid153
@lukeoid153 Год назад
Great vid my friend.
@wingusa2
@wingusa2 9 месяцев назад
Thanks so much excellent, learning my nano what a cool toy
@genestanley553
@genestanley553 Год назад
Nice video!
@dang25272549
@dang25272549 Год назад
Thanks so much 👍
@Index-o1234
@Index-o1234 25 дней назад
How do you know reliably what a good SWR is for whichever antenna you choose to use?
@RC-Heli835
@RC-Heli835 2 года назад
I like to use a 6 inch flexible lead on my Nano to keep stiff cables from being hooked directly to the circuit board of the Nano. Have you tried calibrating to the end of the feed line? I did a 6 ft jumper yesterday and it worked fine. 6 ft is not nearly long enough for most antenna's though. It might be for a 70cm & 2M dual band possibly just to tinker with on the desk.
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 2 года назад
You bring up a good point about calibrating to the end of the feedline, and yes, I have done it that way up to about 30' and it always seemed to work fine. I suppose I don't think about it too much though because most of my calibrations of antennas are "close enough" calibrations such that I can work out the details in the practical use. It probably isn't an efficient method, but I don't mind it. Thanks for bringing up this topic - definitely something worth considering in the future. 73.
@RC-Heli835
@RC-Heli835 2 года назад
@@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 The reason I ask is that Rig Expert instructions say to calibrate to the end of the feed line essentially moving the antenna analyser to the antenna hiding the coax and at the same time keeping your body away from the antenna. According to Bells cb to know the true SwR of an untuned antenna you have to have calculated half wavelength coax. Coax repeats exactly what's at the other end every half wavelength. He says after the antenna is tuned that coax length no longer matters. I helped tune a new big rig antenna the other day on a 6ft coax with my NanoVna h4 not calibrated to the end until ch 20 was 1.36:1 while 1 and 40 were 1.56 :1. Then we hooked the radio back up to the antenna with his 18 foot coax and the 6 ft jumper with an analog SWR Meter. The the SWR was 3.5:1. On ch 40. We had to cut another inch off the antenna to get the SWR back perfect.
@ltlt6117
@ltlt6117 7 месяцев назад
Hello! It's my question that how we can test an antenna for a bipolar monopulse uwb signal for example if that signal has a 5ns width and 100khz repetition..What is the frequency that I have to use as start and stop on nanovna to measure my antenna parameters?????
@ernestb.2377
@ernestb.2377 Год назад
Hi. Nanovna (display) shows S11 swr 500m/ ... (in the top left corner). That should be 1: .... I have seen that on my nanoVNA as well, but then I changed the scale (I believe) and then it changed to 1:. I am a newbe user and still learning, but I think that is something to look at.
@Radiogenes
@Radiogenes 2 года назад
Hello! When you travel across the swr curve with the left and right keys… is it to adjust the steps? For instance, i find that mine goes from 7050 to 7150 or so… Thank you
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 2 года назад
Hello Diogenes. If you are asking if it is possible to adjust the incremental steps, it is. The NanoVNA always pulls about 100 reading points, so in order to adjust the width of the steps between movements with the left/right keys, you change the start and stop frequencies. By decreasing the amount of spectrum that the VNA is observing, you are able to get more refined steps between the start and stop frequencies. If I've misinterpreted your question, I apologize. 73. AC3DS
@thork0tjt515
@thork0tjt515 2 года назад
Do you need to recalibrate the VNA each time you change the band you want to measure? Or just calibrate the VNA once at start-up? Thanks and 73
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 2 года назад
I’ve heard and read that you are supposed to calibrate it each time you use it, however I have actively tested (days and weeks later, outside to inside, etc...)to see if there is a measurable difference and haven’t found any difference. I believe that you should recalibrate when the frequency range goes beyond the bounds of the most recent calibration, or the calibration used to save into one of the recall slots. For my NanoVNA, there was no appreciable calibration change difference until I got over 500MHz, so it has been one calibration that worked for me.
@thork0tjt515
@thork0tjt515 2 года назад
@@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 thank you
@MrBanzoid
@MrBanzoid 2 года назад
At HF it doesn't really matter. It matters once you start going into VHF and UHF frequencies. Also technically you should calibrate at the end of your feedline, but again at HF it doesn't really matter. You're only looking for a dip. You might get better results using S11 logmag instead of SWR.
@Bassist1953
@Bassist1953 2 года назад
Very usefull! 😊 TNX!
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful! 73, AC3DS
@o2bnov0307
@o2bnov0307 Год назад
On my screen the top left corner says S21 SWR 5/1.000. My scale is set 7.0 - 14.2 MHz. I see nothing. Any help you can share would be nice.
@vinces.2862
@vinces.2862 10 месяцев назад
Terrific video. Thanks. KI4AWJ
@DavidBamford
@DavidBamford 2 года назад
If you change stimulus ranges, you have to recalibrate each time.
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 2 года назад
Hi David, thanks for commenting. There seems to be differing understandings about this in the community, and I don't claim to be fully sure that I'm correct. I could certainly be wrong about this, but through experimental testing, I have not been able to validate any significant effect of not calibrating each time when the most recent calibration was for within the same broad range of the spectrum (HF, VHF, UHF)... The difference between broad ranges is also very minimal such that I don't always recalibrate between them if the original calibration included the new stimulus range. I would be curious to see what the actual numeric offset (calibration amount) is between the bands. 73
@DavidBamford
@DavidBamford 2 года назад
@@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 I agree that some don't, I guess I'm a stickler! ha, ha. I've had fun with mine. 73 OM
@rodericksibelius8472
@rodericksibelius8472 2 года назад
You plugged that nanoVNA on the feed cable, aren't you going to FRY that VNA how much power can that VNA handle before it SMOKES?
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 2 года назад
Fry the VNA by attaching it to the feedline? No smoke from the VNA yet, but "the day ain't over yet."
@SergeantExtreme
@SergeantExtreme Год назад
@@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 No, he's right. You should probably have some sort of protection in place, as is shown here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-totwu4IbavE.html
@SergeantExtreme
@SergeantExtreme Год назад
You're not going to include ANY advice as to including circuit protection between the NanoVNA and the antenna? The problem is that it's fairly common for newbies to fry their NanoVNAs, so in a video like this, you should at least include a link to a video that shows them how to do this.
@Incindio13
@Incindio13 11 месяцев назад
If you want to include that in your own video then go for it, go make your own video. Lol at you telling him what he needs to include in his video.
@UDX4570PalmSprings-yh1mv
@UDX4570PalmSprings-yh1mv 5 месяцев назад
I have a NaNo vna and cant figure it out to save my ass!
@RickRollington
@RickRollington 2 года назад
Bruh you really needed to explain what an adapter is? Ffs... Get on with it 😂
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045
@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 2 года назад
Yeah, the unit doesn't come with adapters, so I felt like it was necessary to say, but I get it. Being comprehensive is sometimes at the expense of brevity. 73
@RickRollington
@RickRollington 2 года назад
@@transmittinguntilrobotsrep1045 Based on solely what a vna is, I feel like there is a certain level of competency needed to be able to properly digest these videos, and understand the content correctly. So going into depths on what an adapter is, in my book paints a bad picture for the rest of the video.
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