Just remember You pay someone for a patent It’s all bullshit It’s about who pays and who doesn’t They get the “right” to having the government and full force of the police come after anyone who tries to use an idea Similar to the mob Pay the right people And they will enforce almost anything you would like
This makes complete sense. I've spent years undercutting structurally deficient road beds using geotextiles and large aggregate to repair. This is so simple and solve the tire disposal problem at the same time. Kudos. Too bad something this good for everyone will probably never take off.
We did this over forty years ago. We sometimes interlocked them with 1/2" cable in a lateral, weaving, figure "8" patterns around the mid point of the tread so the tires couldn't work toward the shoulders with time. If they got this patented, the guy at the us patent office should loose his job.
If you can prove it then the patent is busted into being either previously done/ prior art and or public domain. If this information gets to the patent office then the patent will get overturned unless they are using some kind of new twist to an old idea.
@@mountaindew267 homes made from tires, bottles, clay, rocks, dirt, and basically anything they can recycle to build a house while keeping the trash out of landfills.
You pay? My local Discount Tire always takes them for free. I used to leave my motorcycle tires in Wal-Mart in a cart at night when I knew the tire department isn't open...ops I'm bad then I realized my Discount Tire just takes them.
Everyone shitting on this idea is just missing the importance of this breakthrough. These engineers managed to do the impossible. They found a way to make road crews take even longer to make substandard repairs. This is truly amazing.
Cost is controlled by local politics and time is the product of a mafia style system adopted by business and plant owners.... Cement and asphalt.... The guys who are working take the brunt of the taxpayers and that's why they make the big money........ Hahahahahaha.....
@Mike Studmuffin Proof of marketing and getting contracts from taxpayer-funded road projects. The concept of "gravel filled grids" has already been demonstrated in existing products.
Using dead tires to offset the mechanical rutting from heavy hauling saves on repeat maintenance down time, puts used tires to simple local use and Joe can use his mechanical tamper all afternoon while the swamp contractors come up with complaints about the initial time and effort to solve a rutting problem, pass me a cold Flat Tire. Make that a double !
This system also provides a recyclable method for the tens of millions of otherwise unusable vehicle tyres. This application looks to be simple, incredibly effective, durable and long lasting, whilst being economic.
I live in Northern Ontario Canada and I have often said what we need is rubber roads because of the tremendous heaving our roads undergo every winter with the cold temperatures we get here. The water penetrates down under the road way and freezes and pushes up the asphalt causing really impressive potholes to form.
FFS ... I invented this 10 years ago ... I (and illegally as you're not allowed to bury tires) I layed down Stabilization Fabric right on the unprepared ground ... filled a long swampy section of a customers driveway with used old tiers Wired them together with aluminum wire from the scrap yarded ... then compacted 5/8" lime stone in them ... the driveway is still in perfect shape with maybe every 3 years or so some extra inch or so of adfill and grading
That's funny it's illegal. Oilfield and county roads departments up here, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah, use tires and wheels to fill and build up where the dirt roads wash away into the arrayos. No rock though, rock costs money...
@@Wardell43 Out of curiosity I looked into it, there is no federal laws prohibiting burying of tires, it's soley at the state's discretion. Some states it's illegal, with mandatory recycling for tire disposal but others it's not, like New Mexico still does legally bury whole tires at the landfill. Some county's across the country have added guidelines into their building code about using rammed earth tires(typically buried) Even more interesting is in common practice once tires are cut or shredded they are no longer tires, or special waste of any kind. Which is why this company is likely cutting both sidewalls off doing so it's no longer a tire but a ring of petroleum and natural rubber legal in all 50 states.
@@MinimalistMotoLife "Some states it's illegal, with mandatory recycling for tire disposal but others it's not," What does that mean to you?? It's a toxic cancer causing hazard.
@@Wardell43 It's called freedom, it's why we are America and not under the Queen. If we as a country are stupid(lazy) enough to use these petro-rubber disposable tires in the first place there's no reason we shouldn't have shredded used tires in our fast food or tire fire smoke in our lungs. Beyond that the recycling of tires is a joke in the first place, ever been to an asphalt plant? Or seen how we wash out truck beds and tools after the end of a day. Kerosene/Diesel right into the watershed, on the crops while carrying the asphalt "away" but out of sight out of mind right? Just another excuse to distribute petroleum waste far and wide as if Dupont's polymers weren't doing a good enough job of that. Want to help the abundance of waste tires? Stop wasting tires on personal vehicles no amount of recycling or "proper disposal" will stop the waste generation or have a lasting impact on us mammals.
In the Netherlands they where so smart to use waste of a steelmill as foundation of a highway. The stretch of road is now the most bumpy highway in Europe. A patchjob started yesterday when they renewed the asfalt on one direction and the other side wil be smoothend next weekend. In 2021 they wil renew the whole foundation that start to rust and expand so it creates holes and bumps.
and so where was the test site you should obviously showed us where you laid down a stretch of this and then showed us a time lapse for the damage to it versus the standard stretch of road right next to it....actually prove to us it lasts longer instead of just getting people to say it does!
I can tell you at least from an engineering perspective, mechanically stabilized road beds will last longer, period. Even putting in some metal mesh, the issue is cost of doing so. In this case, they are using waste material, which is likely given to them for free. The science is sound, but it's not as ground-breaking as the video wants it to seem. They just figured out a way to do it with garbage, effectively.
Except using structures like this to reinforce ground is a time-proven way to prevent road surface degradation. This is nothing new, just a new source of materials for it.
I have two innovative ideas for making two companies. First one I'm going to start will be my leaf polishing system. People can order my services to have the leaves on their trees polished to make them look nice, like the ones on the Wizard Of Oz movie, the second company will be a Gold and Other Metals Removal Company, the customer can call us to their property and have us come in and remove all of the gold, silver and any other metals under the ground regardless of why they are there, we'll get all the metals off the property and after when we're done well add some nice landscape greens to it.
Lol all concrete is mechanical. By that, I mean it is all produced mechanically, which is the only mechanical thing about this. Also, you don't use concrete for roads, at least not good ones.
It has been thought of around 20 - 25 years ago, only it was added the the asphalt mix. ( the experimental Road that ran through the mountains was virtually new looking 10 years later ) this individual wanted to patent the process for our roads. Oil companies said "NO, this would devastate our economy!" The oil companies even convince Congress of this, so..... now you know why are roads still don't last worth a crap!!! It's all about the $$$ & using fresh oil! *EDITED for more info. This all took place soon after a Giant Mountain of tires caught fire in the United States. The fire departments from all over the US. could not put this fire out for around 3 1/2 months. I remember seeing satellite pictures of the smoke. I believe this is what gave the individual the idea to use the used tires, recycle them & mix with the asphalt. After Congress and the Oil Companies would not let him do this, he applied a similar technology to the playgrounds at McDonald's and other play grounds for kids. ( the soft rubber like material)
You been click baited like me A bit of bull sh@t put together to get view's. notice that this was made 2016 but the video of it was much older (in pal format) pre 2000
Worked on a machine for packing tyres for retaining walls, the same company was doing this road stabilizing trick for farm tracks as well. Back in 2002ish~ in New Zealand. The major issue was resource consent when most the concrete companies have ties to Councillors or are part owned by councils (municipalities), the councils used a lot of what if scenarios to make sure it was kept from interfering with there current supply regime. Things like "what if the road get washed away in a major flood, where will the tyres go" and " what if the road wears down until the tyre's, then causes flat tyres from the wires coming through the road surface".
I can explain the logic behind the name, if you wanted a fully fleshed out version, it would be "mechanically confined concrete." When you're speaking about engineering, when you say mechanical, it's generally talking about a macroscopic interaction. For example, a mechanical pesticide like diatomaceous earth doesn't kill pests with a chemical reaction, it mechanically absorbs water and shreds their bodies. In this case, the aggregates are mechanically retained with a tire, or other structure, instead of being chemically bonded with cement. When it comes to engineering jargon, a lot tends to be lost on a layman.
I used this idea on a erosion problem but the only difference that I employed was using whole tires filled with 3/4minus crusher run saturated to a 3in slump and pump placed into the tires and voids, followed by stack placed 18 minus rip rap. it was an experimental solution at the time and so far has held quite well for the last 25yrs. I see no reason why this would not work if properly set, and good compaction has been achieved.
I live in Pa. Harsh winters wreck the roads every year. Every year the roads are resurfaced w/ a few inches of ashphalt & every year the roads are full of huge , deep pot holes. AND OUR TAXES GO UP to pay for it. It's what I assume to be "job" security. They just don't want to do these roads a better way. Stupid as a bag of rocks these people in charge here. PennDOT is responsible for the greed. This sounds like a good idea.
Why not? Rubber and steel aren't toxic they won't leach anything toxic into the ground, tires are really only a problem if they burn which they won't underground.
@@mikemaki7192Really? Are you a trump supporter who lives in a fact free zone?! The EPA classifies tires as municipal solid waste rather than hazardous waste. Nevertheless, tires that are thrown away instead of recycled can cause serious environmental problems. The issues arise when the chemicals they contain are released into the environment -- the breakdown of tires releases hazardous wastes. Tires contain oils that contaminate the soil; they also consist of heavy metals such as lead, that can persist in the environment and accumulate over time. And you're assuming the tires are going to stay underground forever and ever. I can't believe anybody would believe like you do, so you must be a troll.
@@briandstone1able Old tires aren't considered hazardous waste, but if they are not properly recycled, they do pose threats. Mosquitoes use them as breeding grounds and stockpiles of tires are a potential fire hazard. Recycling & Disposal Information. There are several convenient options for proper disposal. Tires | Rethink Recycling www.rethinkrecycling.com › tire
I saw tires and rock used to control occasional flooding in S.E. Arizona. Twenty years later it's still there. I wonder how much longer it will stay. Past my lifetime I think.
How the hell did these people get a patent on putting tires full of stone for a roadway? The US Army Corps of Engineers has been doing that since the Vietnam and Korean wars to make airstrips and roads.
@@jengleheimerschmitt7941 It sounds like the basis for Romn Roadworks of course without rubber contaiers they had to keep them straight instead of allowing "cornering".
@@jengleheimerschmitt7941 Yup. If you really want to get mad look up Nikola Tesla free energy. That will make you want to punch Edison and company in the face.
@@atfgarage9459 Sounds like it'd be very difficult to enforce a patent like that all over the world. Especially during the cold war. It it was possible, to enforce a ban on something like that, wouldnt a prohibition on nuclear weapons been a good move in around '46?
Farmers been using this trick for a very long time. Its used to stabilize muck ground when filled with aggregate and no top layer (facilitate drainage) so your tractor / truck / hay wagons don't get stuck or make huge ruts. Also used to dam up drainage ditches when filled with a clay / aggregate mix. You all really aught to talk to farmers more often.
No not at all. part of the point of this system is confinement cells and that's what the tires are is confinement cells whereas with a feather pillow the feathers are still free to move around the pillow in relation to each other.
The pillow case is the confinement cell in my analogy . The rocks move too , but they must stay in the tires perimeter . Mostly i'm calling bull shit on the name they are calling it not the idea it self :)@@pacovasda5955
but you still need soil compactor and depending on earth add a layer of rocks. But for cheap fast and robust temporary road its perfect. Im sure in 2-4 years there will be pot holes and puddles in a honeycomb pattern. And pot holes are more often a failure of asfalt not the concrete under. Also im not sure if this is possible in wide use. We can quickly run out of old tires as we already use them in asfalt. Also consider to volume there is 1-2% of road pavement is rubber. So what they use for that small patch can be used on several miles.
Ok people. When a new idea like this comes out and you're pitching it around to get it funded or what ever, you don't wanna just up an say "we are gonna cut the sidewalls off old tires an use those to hold the road bed in place." You want it to sound good, like it is something cutting edge and super bad ass. iT'S CALLED MARKETING PEOPLE
two years ago we covered ten acres with what is called "rock" it is just all the old concrete from roads ground up and reused again, when it is dry it is dusty and the first rain makes it muddy but after that it packs down hard. we drive 300 ton loads over a foot of it without problems
Mechanical Concrete = Fancy name for a Gravel filled tired...amazing Stuff, with a fancy name then it can be overpriced to hell and back...the merica way
Well, it is innovative, cheaper, works much better and lasts much longer AND is a great way to recycle the millions of tires thrown away every year. That IS the American way. What is not to like?
Changing the name of something to make it seem better than it is, is not considered innovative in my book. I lived in merica for 44yrs and its the people who take advantage of others that are rewarded here.
@@OverlandOne "What is not to like?" When you buy truck tires in the USA, you pay a "Federal Excise Tax", and the shop charges a "Tire Disposal Fee" to dispose of the old tires. How much do these guys charge for selling the rebranded junk tires?
Is it cheaper to repair a road in this way or is it just cheaper where this was filmed. I have seen a few instances where they used recycled concrete as a road base and then put 4" of tar on top and it seems to stand up to wear must better than a reinforced concrete road. It sure beats going into land fill if it's cheaper.
@@Wardell43 Yeah, I can understand why someone with cancer would want to sue someone, but around 20% of us will get cancer due to not being killed by something else first. Even if there are tires.
I don't see em doin patch work in some little towns that have all concrete streets ,when will they ever except the fact concrete em all and move on to more important issues ,good job people
@@OneEphraimite perhaps, but they don't seems to care about long term benefits like that. Maybe because for some, it's more profitable to do that? I have no source for that though, so don't quote me on that...
I left the exact same comment, and then I saw yours. Yeah, these guys are scammers for patenting it, and they probably charge a lot for re-selling junk tires.
This is why people have been building homes out of used tires filled with dirt and stacked to form 3 foot thick walls. It is solid, insulated and cheap. I love when ancient technology, resurfaces and modern engineers are amazed. What is old, is new again.
In the Earthship he used tires for walls . He filled them with dirt and then used wire lath and stucco to finish the walls. This is used in a horizontal application and certainly a different function. The machining of the tires probably pretty expensive.
Makes sense, and good on them for doing it...What i don't understand is why there isn't a recyclable Tyre (they have enough money to research them). Its bad enough we have budget tyre's and trucks are still allowed to use normal truck tyres vs Non spray ones (imagine the less amount accident's) Also wish NZ did something like this we have the worst agregrate in the world (cause they don't want to pay for good stuff) , so maybe some tyres would least save us fixing road's constantly
those people who dislike this are total idiots. this is what real recycling looks like. get over your misguided hate for industrialism and get on with real progress. this s what they do in Massachusetts and it works. the only thing we need to do now is find something that doesn't get eaten away so fast by the salt. our winters get pretty hellish at time up here.
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There is a 50 mile stretch of highway along I-10 between Arizona and California where they chopped up used tires into chucks and added it to the concrete or asfault and to this day 50 years later there is no pot holes or break down of the road and in earthquake zone..this is old technology but the road repair Industry didnt want it at the time because they claimed it would put them out of business,so they didnt implement it for the rest of the highway ..typical response...Money makes things happen and money stops things from happening..
No matter who " invented " this flexible water traps especially in a freeze thaw environment don't seem a viable solution . Land fills don't accept tires because as the fill moves the tires surface. I know engineers have a bunch of alphabet soup after their names all I have is 46 years in the construction industry and a little common sense.
Thing is, there are already systems liek this in use, as the video stated. Basically a big hexagon grid. But manufacturing new materials costs more than taking old garbage and re-purposing it. It's not at all a new idea, just a new source of materials.
A few things wrong with this; the name is technically wrong. It’s not concrete, there’s no cement or pozzolanic material in there. It’s just stone and a containment device, that happens to be car tyres. A 3D geotextile is probably better due to known variables. But good idea non the less. The advert just needs to be correct
Seems like a good idea as it is understood that a lot of flexible pavement fails due to unconfined edge conditions. I would still probably want some geotextile and drainage for long-term performance. Also, not that it's a problem yet, but there aren't THAT many old tires altogether, so a manufactured system would eventually be needed if the concept was to be used very extensively.
Old tires leach all kinds of toxic materials...so I question the assertion that this is "environmentally friendly". When you scale up to millions of tires...that's going to have an effect on groundwater.
Let me get this straight. He has a patent on putting rocks in tires ... I have heard of this method before and will NEVER USE IT EVER out of principle. this is a ridiculous patent and should be legally challenged in court. I mean really that's like me patenting bridging pumping subgrade with big ass rock--well maybe he is onto something predatory patenting might be a great business model!!!!!
