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MechWarrior 5 Clans: Turtle Bay Massacre 

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After falling for a diversion and failing to re-capture Prince Hohiro Kurita II, Galaxy Commander Cordera Perez orders the destruction of Turtle Bay via orbital bombardment

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@LavaDa1shi
@LavaDa1shi День назад
Idk how many people will see this, but it seems a few people are confused. The player made paintjob is John Deere, not Jade Falcon Delta Galaxy. It's a joke from MWO where getting lots of damage is usually referred to as farming.
@nerdytom6881
@nerdytom6881 День назад
Then you need to do it right and paint them JCB yellow. JCB is like John Deere except higher quality and more reliable.
@reddecember7622
@reddecember7622 День назад
Dude did all of this just to steal that panther kill from star captain lmao what a legend
@LavaDa1shi
@LavaDa1shi День назад
rofl
@KrautGoesWild
@KrautGoesWild День назад
And so Galaxy Commander Cordera Perez nuked Turtle Bay... his career... and his entire Clan's future. (If the _Sabre Cat_ as a destroyer could do that, just imagine what the Jag's flagship _Veiled Huntress_ as a battleship could have done)
@SoranPryde
@SoranPryde День назад
Yup, because years later when they reformed the 2nd Star League, the Houses of the Inner Sphere decided to single Smoke Jaguar out for Annihilation largely in part due to Turtle Bay All of the Houses had suffered at the hands of the Clans, but Turtle Bay was the one that stood out due to the sheer brutality of it. It was why they all said "Smoke Jaguar needs to die"
@enoughothis
@enoughothis День назад
​@@SoranPryde, and the other Clans stood by and let it happen, having decided that Smoke Jaguar deserved what it had coming.
@nerdytom6881
@nerdytom6881 День назад
It was a plot fix. Apparently only the Kitties had to deal with heavy terrorism. Clan Jade Falcon had some very limited exposure. Clan Wolf did not of course and planets that they captured just stayed surrendered so they remained pure and good and glorious throughout. Make me vomit. But Smoke Jaguar are evil, so they get the ethical dilemmas, and fail them badly.
@LastKasrkin
@LastKasrkin День назад
To be precise in the books, the clans do not use nuclear weapons due to the possibility of genetic damage.Turtle Bay was destroyed with orbital navel weapons. In fact an entire clan was annihilated due to their use of nuclear weapons from a brain cache.
@nikushim6665
@nikushim6665 День назад
@@LastKasrkin Nukes in general are taboo for both the clans and IS. Houses still have large arsenals of them, but they are rarely used.
@chernobylwendigo3994
@chernobylwendigo3994 День назад
Those mechs paint scheme makes them look like Jade Falcons. I approve.
@the_sneaky_snek
@the_sneaky_snek День назад
@@chernobylwendigo3994 was going for John Deere branding. But that works too
@swordmonkey6635
@swordmonkey6635 День назад
Delta Galaxy of The Jade Falcons to be specific... and I too approve.
@Ironhold_Watch
@Ironhold_Watch День назад
​@@swordmonkey6635good
@mikecampos1193
@mikecampos1193 День назад
By the way didn't COMSTAR literally played this to Terra citizens and every House and this is what led to so much people joining the COMGUARD.
@stephenconnolly3572
@stephenconnolly3572 8 часов назад
OK so far in all of these cutscenes, the thing that bugs me the most is how lethargic the mechs are. A Panther just...casually walking, fires one of his weapons at a much larger mech. The pilot of the Mad Dog then takes his time casually turning toward the direction of fire. The Panther then STOPS to fire a single srm 4. Its the same with the other scenes. An Arctic Cheetah walking up to and STOPPING in front of a Warhawk. Where is the speed and quick movements? Mechs are powered by artificial muscles that let them move fairly fluidly. These mechs all like chunkybois.
@lsumd2011
@lsumd2011 День назад
Little did "Galaxy Commander" know, his action that day damned his entire clan to destruction. Couldn't have happened to a friendlier group of elitist asshats, but still.
@umngyr
@umngyr День назад
Even worse, it may have doomed the entire clan war effort. Due to the dishonorable brutality of Smoke Jaguar, Clan Wolf bid away all future use of warships in strategic planning, forcing the other clans to do the same or lose face. Perez basically just cost the clans their greatest strategic asset, as the Inner Sphere basically had no counter to warships other than Comstars fleet assets.
@lsumd2011
@lsumd2011 День назад
​@umngyr To be fair, lore wise, the clan invasion was doomed from day 1. All the clans, save wolf, royally underestimated how much resources it would take to invade the sphere, and wolf was activally sabotaging the invasion from the get go. This just gave wolf the excuse to screw the clans out of thier naval assets and gave the sphere a rallying cry unite and kick clan ass.
@9f81rsd00
@9f81rsd00 День назад
His face on the thumbnail is just perfect. "Yeah, warcrimes time."
@the_sneaky_snek
@the_sneaky_snek 22 часа назад
@@9f81rsd00 I was really close to seeing the frame of him with his mouth opening as he shouted to fire everything lol
@iceydicey77
@iceydicey77 День назад
Funny how kurita are basically the good guys in this situation
@umngyr
@umngyr День назад
nah. They're still asshats, the story just wants us to dislike the jaguars.
@Shadowdrag00n
@Shadowdrag00n День назад
I know right, this bombing was impersonal, what the Kuritians did at Kentares IV was so personal and the body count was way..WAY higher.
@rolinthor
@rolinthor День назад
The Kuritans are always the good guys!
@Aedryel
@Aedryel День назад
Dracs and Jags killing each other? I just need a coffee.
@malcontender6319
@malcontender6319 4 часа назад
@@rolinthor Said from the cockpit of a Jenner no doubt.
@DoomStarRequiem
@DoomStarRequiem День назад
Ahh the stupidity of the clans. Hopefully they don't learn from this and take over Terra in a daring attack led by plot armored clan Wolf and Alaric Wolf.
@nerdytom6881
@nerdytom6881 День назад
Do not get me started on that. I Am Jaded Falcon.
@EmperorPylades
@EmperorPylades День назад
@@DoomStarRequiem the only thing more consistent than the Plot Armour of the Puppers is the ability of the Lords of the Great Houses to be complete and utter morons. As annoying as the ascension of Alaric Ward to the big chair is, I am amused by just what an utterly empty throne it's turning out to be so far. "What if you declared a Star League and nobody came?"
@iller3
@iller3 День назад
@@EmperorPylades that description fits Lyran, Liao, and Marik pretty well, while Kurita just reaps what it sows and Davion also continues to reap whatever Kurita sows because they're in the splash zone
@AtholAnderson
@AtholAnderson День назад
Ah the Clanner temper tantrum...'superior' my ass
@mattholt1388
@mattholt1388 День назад
Should they have simply opened with their full firepower instead of holding back at all?
@Kref3
@Kref3 20 часов назад
And this ultimately led to the entire destruction of clan Smoke Jaguar. And that makes the hole game a bit sad for me. I like my player characters. And while I know that there is no happily ever after for any Clan warrior - they inevitably all die in combat - I don‘t really like liking my characters, knowing that they will all die before turning 30 (except maybe Naomi, who is a bit older), because let‘s be clear, no Jaguar truborn MechWarrior Star like ours will not fight and die during operation Bulldog.
@the_sneaky_snek
@the_sneaky_snek 19 часов назад
@@Kref3 completed the campaign yet? There's 2 different endings. One of which gives a bit of hope for our star
@kdbx2sec
@kdbx2sec 9 часов назад
@@the_sneaky_snek They get nuked on Outreach by the Wobblies after 3067?
@csnation
@csnation 14 часов назад
The Cinematic doesn't capture the scale of destruction as written in the novels imo. The novel literally explained that the naval lasers literally "melted/vaporize" sky scrapers, that is how powerful even Naval lasers are and they are the weakest weapons on the Sabre Cat (Essex class destroyer). Also Turtle bay was a city and the bombardment wiped out over a million lives (they kinda stopped counting after 1 million) and the Sabre Cat use energy weapons and naval autocannons. Now although those look like missiles, we can let it slide because Sabre Cat is firing from orbit, even hypersonic shells designed to hit moving targets at high speeds (multiple Gs) will look slow considering typical warships are at Geosynchronous orbit (aka 35000 km away).
@thomascraiker6449
@thomascraiker6449 День назад
Perez did nothing wrong, he's the only guy looking out for Smoke Jaguar.
@wooohooo103
@wooohooo103 День назад
😂😂😂
@st4rm4st3r
@st4rm4st3r День назад
by InnerSphere standards sure, but by Clan standards he REEEEEEALLY messed up hard lol
@johnnybaxter1953
@johnnybaxter1953 День назад
@@st4rm4st3rwdym by that
@V1OIWTF
@V1OIWTF 21 час назад
Man. That mission later down the road? Mmmmm damn it felt good dropping a specific mech within 10 seconds of getting off the dropship thanks to a daishi with 2 uac20 solids. If you know, you know. No spoilers!
@TheRumChum
@TheRumChum 15 часов назад
*Insert "GET OUT!!!" meme*
@EndlessInfinity1
@EndlessInfinity1 День назад
And then ol smoked jaguar gets humiliated at Wolcott
@Anon26535
@Anon26535 2 часа назад
Dear little sister, I don't think you'll hear from me ever ag'in I hope you and mom and doing alright back home on Luthien I see shooting stars up here in the sky, even though it's still day Please don't tell our mom I'm on Turtle Bay
@82MPN
@82MPN День назад
The reaspn why Smoke Jaguar -> smoked Jaguar
@AlphaAurora
@AlphaAurora День назад
Shouldve glassed Luthien. Oh well, ilClan wins
@OldSpaghettifactory89
@OldSpaghettifactory89 9 часов назад
people so offended about smoke jaguar passifying a city, hope they never google kentares and see what kuritas do when they win
@TheChillee
@TheChillee День назад
My question is were those orbital munitions nukes?
@florence9606
@florence9606 День назад
I think lore-wise they were, or something close to it. This is the first moment that really messed up the invasion for the clans since basically all the other Clans were like "whoa, there's no honor in nuking a city from orbit" and the Wolves made a motion to remove all orbital assets from combat use against ground targets. On the Inner Sphere side, it just pissed everyone off "remember Reach" style and made every militia, partisan, merc, civilian dissident, and professional soldier fight that much harder against the Clans.
@st4rm4st3r
@st4rm4st3r День назад
@@florence9606 "remember Turtle Bay" oh my god that has a ring to it :D
@moistjohn
@moistjohn День назад
​@@florence9606it also was the moment smoke jaguar were dead men walking. They would never come back from this.
@EmperorPylades
@EmperorPylades День назад
A Naval Autocannon 20 (which the Saber Cat had 12 of) does 20 damage in the Battlespace rules for tabletop. The thing is though, that these are Capital scale weapons, and every 1 point of capital scale weaponry translates to 10 points at Mech scale. Those lasers? 35 capital damage. For perspective for those who don't know the tabletop, a Clan PPC, one of the most feared weapons for how hard it hits and it's ability to cripple limbs with a single shot, is 15 Mech scale damage. They're bombarding with weapons designed to blast at other warships, and the Saber Cat is on the small side, being an Essex class destroyer, so she's 'only' 615 meters long. The entire Clan way of warfare was developed specifically to *avoid* incidents like this, to prevent civilian death and the destruction of infrastructure. The warriors who founded the Clans had seen entire planets killed in the Amaris and Pentagon wars, and were living on barely habitable, resource poor worlds; wastefulness is one of the biggest social taboos in their culture. The viciousness and unchecked aggression of the Smoke Jaguars had already earned the enmity of every other Clan, this action made them all but pariahs.
@adamrocket8656
@adamrocket8656 День назад
No. If we're being lore accurate, the Essex class would have conducted an orbital bombardment with its autocannon & energy batteries. It only has a couple of small missiles meant for anti-fighter or anti-dropship defense.
@EmilioGonsalez-d4k
@EmilioGonsalez-d4k День назад
In his raged, he did a move What she thought was going to fix he did something horrible at the at the end we’re supposed to be liberating not destroying
@Dazzxp
@Dazzxp День назад
The jags have a rep if they come across resistance they will destroy cities like they did with the pentagon worlds.
@EmilioGonsalez-d4k
@EmilioGonsalez-d4k День назад
@@Dazzxp well orders are orders thank you
@mitchelltyner5670
@mitchelltyner5670 День назад
When I played this mission I was shaking my head. How the hell did they get the dude off planet when the whole planet was under a no fly order with the Smoke Jag fleet around it... how the heck did a transport just magic it's way through? makes no damn sense. After they were like "He got away." I was thinking, man they should just nuke the whole planet and be done with this crap.
@darthfenrir4892
@darthfenrir4892 День назад
Honesty after this game I'm working my way back through the Blood of Kerensky trilogy, partly because of this. I don't remember exactly how Hohiro got out and want to see if the book has that detail
@iller3
@iller3 День назад
because it was the Yakuza, that's why
@hunterlord101
@hunterlord101 День назад
@@iller3 Certified Dame Da Ne Clan moment
@lordsolarmacharius9213
@lordsolarmacharius9213 День назад
If I remeber right he was still on planet. It was a fake so that Smoke Jaguar lifts the blockade so that he then could leave the planet.And sorry English is not my native tongue
@srboboron
@srboboron День назад
Dropships sneak on and off planets all the time, sensor range is limited. Story convenience. He was either already off planet in a different dropship or he was waiting until after they thought he was, or thought he was dead, while waiting at a hidden dropship somewhere on the planet.
@dog209
@dog209 День назад
Now lay Texas talking about it over the Cinematic lol
@christianescudero3496
@christianescudero3496 15 часов назад
Is Akari Ito a clanner? If so, why is she using a contraction? (I'm)
@the_sneaky_snek
@the_sneaky_snek 13 часов назад
She's a comstar rep
@LavaDa1shi
@LavaDa1shi 12 часов назад
What snek said, basically during the clan invasion the Clans agreed to leave comstar mostly alone if comstar didn't let any HPG messages off world from clan planets. So they were working together a bit.
@envynemo4170
@envynemo4170 День назад
why is there delta galaxy falcon mechs there?
@nerdytom6881
@nerdytom6881 День назад
Malvina Hazen looking through the portal of time for inspiration on how to behave?.
@justicar5
@justicar5 День назад
Because you can customise your Mech paintjob
@LavaDa1shi
@LavaDa1shi День назад
It's a custom paintjob being used by the player. And it's a john deere paintjob, not jade falcon delta galaxy. It's based of a joke from MWO where getting lots of damage is usually referred to as farming.
@ultrajd
@ultrajd 10 часов назад
John Deere mechs
@namu5583
@namu5583 День назад
Sick!
@HHHThanatos
@HHHThanatos День назад
Need a new PC.. :(
@Aedryel
@Aedryel 23 часа назад
No. Need a new PPC. :v
@-kingofsaiyannappa-9057
@-kingofsaiyannappa-9057 День назад
The scene is kind of underwhelming. It feels like it's from a TV show instead of a blockbuster movie.
@zorhamorningstar3862
@zorhamorningstar3862 День назад
This is High Theater compared to what PGI has put out before.
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