The Evolution of MechWarrior: 1989 - 2012 

Yngstolde Magnus ugh steiner..

I guess fighting for a worthless rock is better then getting massacred on the first day of the job

I’m Lyran commonwealth

I'd rather be a Steiner Scout Lance than a Capellan

Awwww, Steiner fall down go boom

Indeed.

berserk er It brings back memories. im about to download it now, lol.

Have you guys listened to Timothy Seals A New Dawn covers yet?

110% agree. It was my study soundtrack for homework back in the day.

I used to listen to pop the disc into my CD player and listen to the audio tracks. It was awesome!

+Shatter Fox MW2 and MW Mercenaries was mine!

oh man, mechwarriors 3 was my shit

MW Mercenaries is so damn hard to get running for the win version. D:

Mine too

The metal soundtrack from MW:4 Mercs was pretty good though.

Mech4 Mercs had a damn good sound track, not sayin Mech2 wasnt good though

Was a thing of beauty

Agreed

Time Commando had the greatest music ever

2 was better

@TheVoiceOfTruth That was the story though. There always needs to be some type of "gate" to the good tech from the start. I could be remembering wrong, but the premise should be about right. In 3 you were part of an invasion force that got bad intel and got ambushed. All you have is what you crash landed with and you need to capture enemy supplies to replenish and strengthen your own while still attempting to complete your original mission basically blind. Pretty much the same idea in 4 but with a bit of a longer story attached to it that just made sense for those games. Same for MW2:Mercs, except instead of capturing enemy tech, you just salvaged and bought better tech as you progressed. You were still "gated" from the good tech/weapons/mechs until you earned it by whatever means the designers put in. Basically the same for almost all the games out there lol. With the exception of MW:Online, but even that has those elements to it. MW2:Mercs holds a personal spot in my heart due to nostalgia, absolutely loved that game as a kid. I was blown away by 3, it was way ahead of it's time, really wish I could play 3 again reliably. And 4 was just really, really fun and I will still replay it again every now and then. MW:Online was boring for me, never played it for more than a couple weeks. BattleTech by HBS is freaking amazing, but can get boring late game or after the main campaign unless you start modding. MW5:Mercs...well...screw Epic Games and screw Piranha Games too for releasing it there, and even if the game eventually releases on Steam, still not sure if I'm going to buy it. Depends really on the modding community and how far modding can improve the game. Original MW and all the mechwarrior games on nes/snes were more like arcade games, played them here and there, but they were pretty meh. Never got into the MechCommander series either, probably good games, but I wouldn't know, never have and probably never will play them at this point lol.

same havent tried Mechwarrior 2 yet but only heard about ghost bear legacy

@@bonitabromeliads Meh, not really... I played all of them and in my opinion 3 was the best... Reason was it kepts the sim feel 2 had but had much better sound and graphics... I like the idea if running a merc unit in 2 though and I liked even more playing as a Clanner in the original 2... Im a Clan guy so... ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY WOLF!!!!

Ironic.

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ahh Mechwarrior 2 mercenaries, but i have the titanium edition, which people scoff at

I have fond memories of playing that game as a kid. Good times.

Mech 2 Mercs version 1.08 (AKA the 3Dfx Interactive Edition) was the best version imo. If Activision had simply added dynamic salvage, MercNet and fixed bugs to 1.08 instead of giving us the abominable 1.1 than things would have been GREAT...but...you know what happened.....

That would be amazing! But, they aren't in the same genre as modern fps. The mw franchise is a much more slower paced game. One cannot simply stand in a corner and wait for some sorry fuck to walk by and kill him in one hit. Nope, instead, one must follow a VERY specific role, and rely on his/her teammates to cover his/her weaknesses. For example: One using a close range build must rely on long range missle spammers or "archers"/ long ranged snipers "riflemen" to keep the enemies heads low, so the brawler can get to the enemy. And the riflemen/archers rely on a scout to spot targets. Scouts and strikers (assasin mechs) rely on brawlers to keep the enemy distracted. Everyone in the game relies on eachother to win.

Really stupid comparison, if you wanted a really rough but fairer comparison you'd compare it to tactical shooters. I can see a comparison between tactical infantry games or arcade mech games to tactical mech games, but to deviate from both descriptions is again, really stupid. They're completely different.

ref4nej2 What im saying is that nobody will be interested in them on consoles. Because everyone in the xbox/ps community just wants another fps where they can camp all the fucking day and watch the acheivements go by.

lumpy1space2princess I wasn't talking to you, I actually agree with you. If there is no +randomname123 at the start of a comment, it's directed at the OP, just like your first comment.

Is there ever such thing as an all purpose/range compatible mech? Because i have not really had the chance to get to play it (as my old computer broke down) so i don't know that much. But i did get to use homing missiles!

vBDKv I HAD THAT game!! and It was amazing!

Only for the cockpits.

Indeed, you should play that, or maybe you do already. The game has recently started to develop more by the community after a good while of no updates due to the makers losing the rights for the brand. MWLL has an awesome and loyal fanbase.

hehe... I think I still have the floppy somewhere at my mom's house...

I still have mechwarior 2,3, and 4 mercenaries :)

Yup but at the time MW 1 came out it was the shit....and fun as hell....

I vaguely remember playing MW1 as a kid, but I played the ever loving shit out of MW2. Such a good soundtrack and was such a good game. They don't make em like that use to, but MW4 Mercs is still pretty fun to play every once in a while.

Mike Q MW2 and GBL legacy is still fun to replay ...and is a masterpiece for sci fi simulator fans....

Yea my buddy had GBL on disc but I only got to play through that one once. I can't get MW2 to work on windows 10 and can't be bothered to set up a windows emulator, so I play through MW4M every so often.

Mike Q I have it working on Windows 7x64 used MechVM.....BUT I still have both my original disks I bought the day they came out lol

"MISSION: SUCCESSFUL."

We play mw4 in gameranger if you are interested =)

+Martín Francisco Jiménez Moreno Man i miss playing Mechwarrior4 but i can't download it again ;-;

PanzerKonigstiger OMG, now I need to search for the games once again :p

+Martín Francisco Jiménez Moreno You can go to clan coyote webpage and download the game :)

I would LOVE to play through MechWarrior 3 in the Online style.

***** Tourmaline Desert would be a perfect stand-in for Aquiline Fire, just need to throw some burning dropship wreckage in there, and use Omnis instead of the enemy Rifleman IIC and Marauder IIC.

MWO plays more like a vehicular arena combat game than a Mech' simulator, I'm not sure it would be all that grand.

We still play this in gameranger if you are interested =)

Probably tried to make graphics with beter meshes and look more 3D, at the cost of less ... textures ? well yeah overall i dont understand why the cockpits look so bad.

CaCSouthPark It's only common sense to make what's directly within the player view look nice. I'm not tech savvy but one would think adding a couple of cockpit textures wouldn't kill the performance. Oh well, still great games)

The MW3 cockpit was perfection.

Honestly I think it's because the game was designed to be played in third person

@@Outcast115 posisbly, most early games like that used a 2d cockpit, and for whatever reason they didn't go with that to top it of some mechs the cockpit obstructs a lot of your view

Oddie Yang was he the short wide one with the jetpack?

MW4, Vulture.

+Lighton Junior Agreed. Vengeance was a step in the wrong direction, but Mercs redeemed the franchise after that. Even more so when you add in all of the custom work that Mektek added to that game over the years for free.

Mw2 and Mw3 were back in the day when games manufacturers put effort into their games, knowing full well that a solid game would earn them money..... I even liked the Mechcommander game which never really took off. Sadly the last few years have seen a huge shift over to fast fire console titles which have far less thought and effort put into them...... the game producers seem to be all aiming towards producing the next title to be as mindlessly popular as Call of Duty, and nothing more. Sad really

Finally someone putting out the truth: MW4 is overrated and probably one of the weakest of the franchise, yes, including Mercs (4) I think it's the engine, the animations, the scale, the shitty slapped together cockpit view, terrible textures, sounds and lightning for the most part is what kills the mood and feel of MW4, it's got everything a MW game needs in theory but in practice it just feels... shit.

Roberto Valente me too, played for a lot of years, one day found it by accident. first few times it made me fall over. such a weird feature to find ;-D

Agreed, and just to make it even worse, Mech warrior online barely even has ANY of the original mechs.... only true original mech kept to it's name is the Atlas.....

I read online that living legends is back.

Gun Jack It never really died.

jamie kennedy The best things come with change. Keeping the same old shit will always bring a game down. little nods here and there are great but only delusional people want the same thing over and over.

jamie kennedy To be fair, the first mechs in MWO were almost exclusively the ones that come with the BattleTech box set (which has just been reprinted). From there, they've pretty much been adding mechs from the 3039 Technical readout. So, if anything they're more original than the original video games.

I had a whole massive adventure game story line too it. to complete it you had to sell your mech and travel all over the galaxy visiting bars . then you had to make money buying mechs from the inner planets and selling them on back water planets then you had to train up piolets and launch a 14 round assault with no repairs or reloads to take down the bad guys.

vmware

you can actually play MW3 on windows 8.1 with out any additional work.

INCC74656I It works for me on Windows 7 but there's a crash caused by drawing target triangles below the screen and a bug with the vehicle physics sometimes causes trucks and tanks to fly out of the level randomly. This is only in the original, Pirate's Moon works flawlessly.

i dont have any of those issues or any issues at all for that matter under 8.1 with the 1.2 patch on MW3

For games, Windows 7>Windows XP>>>>>>Windows 8.1>Windows Vista>Windows 10>Windows 8

choopy bohn Upvoted for Eva. Pirate MW3 mate, it's not like it's earning anyone money nowadays.

+choopy bohn MWLL is still active, I'm doing a competitive drop right now.

how many people play it nowadays?

Except for the fact that the developers of MWO forced MWLL to shut down so they wouldn't have any competition for their game? Also, I know quite a bit about MWO. I've played the f***ing game and did research on it after my good computer died making it impossible to play. The first few hours were fun running around in a quick light class, but the game gets dull quite quickly.

Yes, I knew Betty was brought back (That was a pretty badass surprise I must admit) however, I refuse to rate a game on voice acting alone, no matter how good or bad it is. Also, MWLL was THE BIGGEST Battletech multiplayer game of its time featuring mechs (duh), power armor, tanks, planes, and all of them were player controlled. It was also done using the Cry engine because it ran off Crysis Wars. Seriously, look it up.

Actually it was first used in MW2 Mercenaries

I am aware. She's gone through quite the upgrade since then though

I guess that mwo is a higher quality variant of mall, except no fun, I mean I can confirm that because of all the unfun stress you get from always losing every single match

Never played it, was it as good as MW2: Mercenaries?

Better over 40 mechs to play with!!!

Oh okay. :)

It was by far better... Mercenary contracts, completely custom weapons and equipment, better story... It was perfect !

Implying there was canon to begin with.

Elaxter nothing to imply, there is canon.

Came back to MWO the other week, and the whole clan thing makes me angry. Then I go play Mech commander 2 (or 1 when in the mood) and suddenly I feel better.

Steven Knowles Tell me about it. I really wanted to see the Mad Cat (I'm an Inner Sphere scrub, sue me) because the Mad Cat is pretty much the icon of Mechwarrior (you can say it's the Atlas but most of the Mechwarrior games had the Mad Cat featured prominently and used it as their logo), but then I found out I have to pay something like 50-210 dollars for it?! What kind of BS is that? NobleSeraphim I was really missing all the ER Medium lasers (those were my go-to weapons for MW3 because they had about the same range as a Large but weighed less and made less heat), the LB-20-X ACs... What makes MWO worse is that they said they were going to go with a 1:1 scale timeline of release for mechs, meaning if a mech came out a year after the time the game is "set" in, we'd have to wait a real-life year for the mech in the game. MWO features the Centurion Omnimech but leaves out the Avatar Omnimech?! How long will I have to wait for that one?!

TankCommander451 Centurion Omnimech? Surely you mean Battlemech. The Omnimech doesn't come out until 3111. Also, the Mad Cat is now available for C-Bills, so in a word it's now 'free' of paying real money for it.

Denchie Dean Errr... the vast majority of Clan 'mechs are Omnis as early as 3020ish.

elucid07 Nope, the Centurion omnimech was made in 3111, not all omnimechs were made before the invasion of the inner sphere, or during Jihad for that matter.

If anyone's wondering, he didn't run fast enough.

Saito Touhara Despite how much I've despised PGI (Piggies) shenanigans with MWO, they've finally started to take development seriously, maybe after booting IGP out they're more focused on bringing better and more frequent big patches, we're getting two maps in the next two months so it's gotta be worth something, right?

I haven't played it but it looks like a lot of fun. I'll probably never play it because MMORPGs require too much of an investment (mostly time, but money too).

Well, it's not a MMO to be fair, matches are quite compact, but you are kinda right, it's a huge time sink and money is bound to fly out your wallet time and time again.

Mwo fine it just wish the start was a bit high on the time but once you get your first mech or 2 its starts to speed up they've done a good ob with the cadet bonus but maybe give trial mechs a c-bil bonus

My problem is not the payments, not the "umgg they changed that laser a ltttlee bit its not lore!!1", but their productivity. I among many have noticed, and even some respectable critics like sidestrafe have noticed, that the map development and performance quality is needs a lot of attention. Props are recycled, the colors are bland, and some maps give one team a critical disadvantage. Now, the most compelling thing to me is the HUD. I usually get around 30 fps on a good amount of maps. I turn the HUD off and my framerate increases dramatically. Why? It's just a heads-up display, how could that possibly take half of my potential performance? Many people don't know why they claim MW:O is bad, but these are points I happen to agree on.

Mad Kiyos At least IGP is off their backs now. We are finally seeing good progress in MWO compared to the abysmal year of 2013.

I don't like the balance choices that to stop boating is to implement Ghost Heat. They should just go back to the classic 30 point heat scale, make Double Heat Sinks dissipate Double the heat (not have double the heat capacity), etc. Clan weaponry being nerfed (like doubling the burn time of lasers) without the ability to modify base chassis attributes like the Engine completely misses the point of them being OMNIMechs, they're supposed to have superior weapons and mounting ability while the Inner Sphere eventually will get OmniMechs of their own (Black Hawk-KU, Owens, Strider, Avatar, Sunder, BlackJack-Omni) and be able to use both omnipod technology with specialized weaponry like Rotary Autocannons, MRMs, X-Pulse Lasers, T-Bolt Launchers, Inferno Rockets, Light and Heavy Gauss rifles, Hypervelocity Autocannons. It's also the fact that the animations aren't convincing to me. 'Mechs like the Raven or Mad Cat never run even though they did in the rest of the games. The cockpit bob is a generic back-and-forth movement with no difference on torso twist and Head location (like the Thor's cockpit should be bobbing asymmetrically) and your viewpoint is just suspended in midair, never bobbing around. MechWarrior: Living Legends 'Mech animations may look a little stiff but that makes sense in an in-universe perspective, you want to keep the MechWarrior inside as stable as possible to make accurate shots and the cockpit movement looks a lot more heavy and great.

You dont have power here, shill!

the good news is MWO is finally adding some of those weapons, oddly in the upcoming Civil War update, i think clan tech gets the short end of the stick for new weapons, the only real new things they get are Heavy Lasers and ATM missiles which seem like their gonna be a bit too technical for alot ofp eople since their damage will be based on travel distance, not sure if that means their gonna be like LBX ACs aka "closer is better" or something like "farther is better" but IS on the other hand gets the full range of LBX and Ultra ACs, Rotary ACs, Heavy and Light Gauss, Light PPC AND Snub-Nose PPC (and 1 other i beleive) and of course MRMs, Rocket Launchers, a new Stealth Armor which has benefits aimed at units that can use ECM...and other stuff i cant remember basically IS gets a huge boost in weapon variety with this update, clan not so much, but heavy lasers could very well be VERY scary to fight