Mecklenburg - Decent Burger, But Not French

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The Mecklenburg has some nice things going for it, mainly dispersion really. However the horrendous firing angles and low gun caliber is a big source of frustration for me. Mostly found myself missing the Bourgogne, the French burger, the direct steel competition for this one.
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@Flamuu 2 года назад

This game really showed some of my fav things about this ship, the dispersion when shooting especially the Ognevoi. But it also highlighted how painfully bad the firing angles are, even worse than GKs. Considering Bourgogne is 30k steel, 1k cheaper, this is a pretty hard sell for me, Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz Discord: discord.gg/Flamu Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/

@astralux1732 2 года назад

first reply!

@locke4642 2 года назад

@@astralux1732 What is this, 2004?

@EvoraGT430 2 года назад

I use rudder-shift module and it makes the ship much more enjoyable. Do prefer Bourgogne, but not by a huge margin.

@krieshake 2 года назад

No citadels were harmed in making this video.

@VengerDFW 2 года назад

This is a quality post.

@lionellines6351 2 года назад

This is the second video in a row that I’ve watched where the top comment has been, “No _____s were harmed in the making of this video.” I think the simulation is breaking.

@trentreffner5699 2 года назад

Okay... noted: "Whenever Flamu curses a ship's firing angles, it means he enjoys the ship." Got it.

@Rageaholic2213 2 года назад

He's not allowed to praise ships anymore after what happened to Agir

@van4795 2 года назад

@@Rageaholic2213 true

@EvoraGT430 2 года назад

Just use rudder-shift module and things are much better.

@akane.sakurada 2 года назад

I think I'd consider this ship more as a "What Marlborough should've been" rather than just a (questionably) Bourgogne sidegrade.

@KalinoursEU 2 года назад

Marlborough is actually a pretty decent ship I rate B+ tier

@Andi-ex2bk 2 года назад

@@KalinoursEU it is too squishy in my opinion

@mikkodoria4778 2 года назад

@@KalinoursEU at tier 7

@KalinoursEU 2 года назад

@@mikkodoria4778 I shit on T10 in this thing

@sweetpoison5341 2 года назад

I don't know why people are giving crap about Marlborough. It's not bad at all. 16 British HE is not bad at all at tier 9. It's got Heavy cruiser guns and good maneuverability. if this game was played with Marlborough he would have gotten more fire chance.

@stevenhartman2605 2 года назад

Interesting how this BB is much more likely to proc the main battery reload talent than other German BBs.

@NickHey 2 года назад

Your first volley set more fires than I get in an entire game in my goliath

@jeremyesh5969 2 года назад

Try switching to HE

@Johnnymac66 2 года назад

I honestly think the Mec will grow on Flamu when he stops comparing it to other ships and starts figuring out his angles of attack with it. You can gripe about firing angles, but that sigma + dispersion is sick, and the fire chances ARE actually solid - stats don't lie - RNG does.

@brandonsheffield9873 2 года назад

I agree, its really strong in clan battles.

@zacharyjackson1829 2 года назад

the problem i have with this ship is why would you pick it over the Bourgogne or even the Conqueror? Hell if i just want a top tier HE spammer BB i can pick the latter tech tree option and not spend 31k Steel. It's also not like there's a shortage of good German premiums..... this ship fills a niche that was already filled by other ships who can do what it can and more

@someoneinasia 2 года назад

WG taking the old "battleship hindenburg" meme too seriously

@wtpiv6041 2 года назад

Noted. I’m hitting on about 1-2k steel away from either Stalingrad or Bourg. Kinda want to go for Bourg but I hear Stalingrad is a must for comp. I don’t do CB’s but I do play ranked. Any idea on which fits my situation better?

@gn0me420 2 года назад

damn the dispersion on this ship is insane

@tiago4158 Год назад

its not that good actually

@gn0me420 Год назад

@@tiago4158 I don't even know bro, I don't play the game no more 😂

@howtogitgud Год назад

Yeah, with shitty German BB dispersion, the 4x4 12inch shells bound to hit something than standard 4x2 15 or 16 inch shells.

@GravityTrash. Год назад

@@howtogitgud It has BC dispersion with a sigma of 2.01 if I'm not wrong kinda good if it wasn't for the fact it's small guns well at least it can start fires..

@williamhess3873 2 года назад

Defs more of an HE spammer, I really prefer this for gun hits missions for BB, Burger is still way better and will always be, but mecklen is quite solid and still fun to me

@tonychiu1068 2 года назад

Is this a good "replacement" for the Conquerer as HE/Fire spam BB? Has torpedoes so even more utility close range

@BigD321 2 года назад

Picksd up bourgonge last night as my first steel ship, and im in love. Mecklenburg looked interesting, but ive had my sights set on burger for awhile now, and id like to get incomp beforr mecklenburg anyways.

@TheArmouredArmadillo 2 года назад

same here lol, Incomp next probably for me though

@EvoraGT430 2 года назад

Burger is the best of them, for sure.

@reaperking2121 2 года назад

Burger is just way to good. Excellent at he farming, with enough speed, armor and penn to allow for late game pushes.

@BigD321 2 года назад

@@reaperking2121 yes, but you’re trippin’ if you arent using the AP, gotta use both to get the most out of her

@reaperking2121 2 года назад

@@BigD321 I know the Ap is good . That’s why I mentioned the good pen on the guns and that the ship is good at late game pushes. Sorry if that wasn’t clear. I love Burgers ap. It’s one of the few BBs I play where I can consistently cit Yammys at 16 k

@Zaaphod 2 года назад

Up until now, all Mecklenburgs I met tried to shoot AP at me. That is about to change. Thank you Flamu....

@jedpratte 2 года назад

Last night when coupon reset I got the incomparable, I already have bourg witch I love and from watching videos on this new German BB felt incomparable was way to go.

@Very_Unwise 2 года назад

What do you think about the incomparable? Does it feel as strong as bourg?

@jedpratte 2 года назад

@@Very_Unwise they play different but the handful of matches I have played with it I love it. 10.6 detect, 51mm deck armor, 40kts speed. Just have to be VERY angled. The guns are very accurate I found. In the 5 matches I played I am at average damage of 131k right now. But I also love Georgia, bourg, German battle cruisers. So I have come to enjoy the more mobile play style vs sit back and snipe .

@Very_Unwise 2 года назад

@@jedpratte i agree, i think that playstyle is alot of fun. Im saving up for the incomparable

@stflaw 2 года назад

Was so torn between Meck and Incomp (I have Bourg and Stalingrad) that I punted and bought the Salem for coal with the coupon. It just reset, and it's looking like Incomp at this point.

@grandadmiralraeder9608 2 года назад

incomp would be the better choice. salem is frustrating b/c it has less hp than DM and you can barely use the super heal due to crap heal %. also not really viable as radar build

@stflaw 2 года назад

@@grandadmiralraeder9608 I already got the Salem. The choice is between the Incomparable and the Mecklenberg.

@montagistkacke7431 2 года назад

@@stflaw 6 vs 16 barrels, and Incomp even has longer reload. Mecklenburg has almost 50% higher DPM with both shell types. Also, much more HP and a turtleback. Mobility is equal, although Incomp has a massively larger turning circle. Incomp has very high caliber, battlecruiser dispersion, great camo and 8% engine boost, but that's about it. But again, 6 vs 16 barrels. Just that would already answer the question for me.

@GravityTrash. Год назад

@@montagistkacke7431 Tbh meck is kinda disgusting with BC dispersion with a sigma of 2.01 but the guns are rather small

@montagistkacke7431 Год назад

@@GravityTrash. Small for bb guns, yes, but not too small imo. Large enough to chunk most bb broadsides with AP. Don't expect citadels at high ranges, but you will get >10k often, and frequently even >20k on the turtleback-germans. But it does disgusting things to cruiser broadsides.

@Itsallgoodtogo 2 года назад

Need to test this out ... wanna see when these guns penetrate citadels.

@kyledacosta5375 Год назад

Ok, I'm convinced that Flamu is Doctor Strange...

@anidiot2818 2 года назад

Those airstrike voice lines are partially reused from RTS CV squadron voice lines. Reminds me of better days.

@jeffaspeling5690 2 года назад

Hi there sorry to ask I am still kinda new to World of warships I would like to know if there is a ship that makes farming coal better than just the coal you get from boxes and task.

@TimTimONE 2 года назад

Only boxes, tasks

@mishkata348 2 года назад

What do you think about specing this for secondaries?

@TastierBackInThe80s 2 года назад

Big Mec.

@traveler_5161 2 года назад

Doctor strange playing Wows? Cool!

@T.K.9 2 года назад

The gun sounds like a Marlborough

@zTribalX 2 года назад

Honestly i think if this thing wouldve good angles it would be busted. I mean you always have atleast 8 shells in the air anyway.

@hightowerjared 2 года назад

This ship has some crazy RNG and fire chance! Shot me and lit three fires... i put them out and they light me with three more fires on the next salvo... #IDied

@ObristPlayep 2 года назад

Does this thing really eat more damage than Bourgogne which has 32 all over?

@vincentlee9638 2 года назад

If you want to use all of your turrets all the time then yes.

@Arthion 2 года назад

Bourgogne will eat HE for days or Yamato or anything else that can overmatch it but it can still angle well and bounce AP. Mecklenburg gets shat on by AP if trying to use all 4 turrets

@ObristPlayep 2 года назад

I dunno, on SEA at least with the amount of Yamatos (and its variants) and HE spam around, Bourgogne just gets chunked for 10k+ all the time

@KaguyasBeat 2 года назад

Conclusion: Stalingrad is still a great ship~

@totallylegit4092 2 года назад

Flamu: this ship so bad Ship: 230k damage

@rodian17 2 года назад

What is the ranking in bb's sold with steal ?

@stefanocrosazzo3262 2 года назад

1) Bourgogne 2) Incomparable 3) Shikishima 4) Mecklenburg At least imho

@Dropbare 2 года назад

@@stefanocrosazzo3262 Almost same for me, except I'd have Shiki' as equal toIncomp', but otherwise a big gap between Bourg and the rest, and Mecklen (at the bottom) and the rest.

@stefanocrosazzo3262 2 года назад

@@Dropbare in terms of battle power yes, absolutely. However I ranked them not only in terms of raw power but especially in terms of how fun/unique they are. Bourg and Incomp offer a very unique experience, while Shiki is a sidegrade Yammy that plays more or less the same

@dislikecounter5191 2 года назад

Debated this but got incomparable. But I swear have bad rng 30% accuracy at close range stationary bbs

@Ph3NiX80 2 года назад

This ship is GREAT. Great guns (many of them, great dispersion and range, great reload), Good AA. Nice 11 km secondaries if u spec hybrid like I do so u have that too. It has torps so ther's an extra option too if needed. And the basic hull od good ant tanky. I think its a completly different beast compared to the burger. They are both great ships, but different. Definetly worth the steel both of them. PLUS Mecklenburg could potentially be good in competition too (definetly more suited than 99% of other german BB's lol)

@PriestessOfSlaanesh 2 года назад

I dont see any general scenario where this is better than Schlieffen. The most broken BB in this Game next to Musashi

@eze8970 2 года назад

🙏

@TacticalBeard 2 года назад

I grabbed Ragnar. Probably get Stalingrad next

@mowestsacc 2 года назад

I got Stalin last time and Ragnar yesterday. Good picks!

@achimhanischdorfer3403 2 года назад

To answer the question at the end: Is Stalingrad worth it? YES. It has incredibly powerful guns. Very consistent accuracy. You can citadel Yamatos at 16km. There are T10 BBs that CAN'T do that. BBs like GK, Montana, Borgonge(spelling). Stalingrad gives you T10 BB firepower on a T9 Battlecruiser hull and is classed by the MM as a T10 Cruiser. You have the mobility of T10 DDs and because that is not enough already, it accelerates and slows down like a light cruiser.

@montagistkacke7431 2 года назад

I would love to have the Stalingrad you have... The mobility is utter garbage. The top speed is very good, but that's it. Half of the T10 cruisers have similar rudder shift, and the other half is *massively* better (about 33% lower). Turning circle is larger than on most T10 BBs, and (de-)acceleration is AT LEAST as bad as on heavy cruisers. Don't get me wrong, I agree with most things you said, Stalingrad is a great ship and I enjoy it as well. But the mobility, except the top speed, is just rubbish.

@achimhanischdorfer3403 2 года назад

@@montagistkacke7431 I recommend you switch from rudder shift to propulsion 2 in the 4th modification slot. This is paramount on many T10 cruisers. they have 40s engine response time. Prop2 halves that to 20s. Imagine a Stalingrad going from standstill to 30kts between main gun reloads. Broken? NOOOO. You angle away and exploit the broken fireing arcs of the front turrets. 150° to the rear and the rear turret can turn 154° to the front. If you sit still in a Stalingrad you throw away half of what makes this ship good. You HAVE to keep moving, accelerating, slowing, steering. This is often referred by the community as speed trolling.

@montagistkacke7431 2 года назад

@@achimhanischdorfer3403 I'm using neither of those, I reduce fire and flooding time because it has BB fire/flooding and it gets lit quite frequently. Saying that the mobility is rubbish doesn't mean I stay broadside often. Honestly, fires are a much larger problem for me than citadels.

@achimhanischdorfer3403 2 года назад

@@montagistkacke7431 I go by the idea of NOT getting hit. TRY propulsion2. It is the biggest change you can make. (I apparently have a 72% winrate in it. I just looked.) Though I have stopped playing 2 months ago.

@zpg743 2 года назад

Mandatory youtube engagement comment.

@couscousmagique3226 2 года назад

Why does your friend sound like the spurdo sparde meme ?

@gustavchambert7072 2 года назад

Gk does have really awful angles from what I recall

@nicz7694 2 года назад

Jo Flamu and Community: Cant decide between Bourgogne and Stalingrad, this is what I got so far Bourgogne: - Already have JB (my fav Ship) - kinda like the Frenchies guns - EngineBooster and MBRB are really nice imo - 21pt Cap for Frenchies Stalingrad: - already got shitro - old but gold Steel Ship, still usable - could need a Big Cruiser since the others are T9 - only 18pt Cap since I haven't played that much Soviet Navy What do you recommend? Feel a bit better in a BB (especially the French) but I also wanted to give a try to a cruiser (Plymouth and Austin are a no-go) FDR: - Fuck off with this Siki and Incomparable: - nice, wanted them at first but I got Satsuma for big guns (sad "no t10 noises") DDs: - already have Halland and Marceau

@michaelbrowne8704 2 года назад

Bourgogne!! I’d get it if I could !!

@michaelbrowne8704 2 года назад

Although I’d Patrie a better version of Burgogone

@nicz7694 2 года назад

@@michaelbrowne8704 Alright, I'll take a closer look to these two! Haven't seen much about Patrie

@jedpratte 2 года назад

The bourg is a great BB have had it over a year now and solid performer. I just got the incomparable and have been enjoying it too.

@BigD321 2 года назад

Id say get bourgogne, especially considering you already like french bbs, bourgogne is literally super JB lol I got burger last night and im in love with her. As someone said, patrie is coming up at some point, however, its a bit of a different beast than burger. Patrie is ofc basically an alsace with repub turrets instead, it gets the same reload as alsace, and it gets burger sigma (1.8), but they took away the reload buff from its gimmick, so you’re not going to be able to pump out shells in the same fashion that burger could. I think that in itself still gives bourgogne good value. Thats just my opinion tho. Bourgogne has definitely lived up to the hype for me tho.

@Hugzzi 2 года назад

Was initially going to get Incom, then got hyped for this and bought her instead. Now I have big sads...

@geekonomist Год назад

Fires AP 75% of the time, complains that he did not start many fires...

@jaqenhghar9758 Год назад

He played a few battles before and his impression is right. I had matches with >100 HE hits and no fire.

@Admjoh 2 года назад

Sooo Ragnar or Mecklenburg for steel?

@raphjern 2 года назад

Ragnar if you don't have Smaland

@ObristPlayep 2 года назад

Ragnar is inherently underpowered.

@Admjoh 2 года назад

@@raphjern I now have Ragnar and Småland. Seems like a solid ship that takes some getting used too..already have Bourgogne so nothing else really spoke to me.

@jupiter-qu3zl 2 года назад

poggers i literally just got bourgogne today honestly dont see much point to getting this ship... like, if you wanna HE spam, why not play conqueror or just bourgogne herself? and bourgogne is cheaper too. this ship is what marlborough should have been, but for steel tbh i'd only take it if you have nothing else to get.

@josephsun3755 2 года назад

In NA server there are a TON of IJN bbs in tier X rooms. And considering all these super bbs, playing as conqueror or bourgogne in an environment where almost all bbs overmatch 32 is a pain in the ass, especially when against Satsuma with F on. Not to mention Conde and Annapolis eat conqueror and bourgogne for afternoon tea. On the other hand, mecklenburg have 50 deck. This means it is immune to BB AP overmatch, annapolis cannot pen the deck, and conde can only pen the deck if she use F. Mecklenburg's survivability is much much stronger than bourgogne or even thunderer in the current meta.

@vincentlee9638 2 года назад

Better armor, better dispersion, better secondaries, and you have torps.

@jedpratte 2 года назад

Bourg does well when kiting or pushing a flank. It does not bow in tank due to 32mm armor. The HE is great and the AP is great on it.

@reaperking2121 2 года назад

@@josephsun3755 thing is you can deal with Japanese bbs pretty easily just by sitting at range. Burger with its stupid 24 km range and high shell speed can easily Just outsnipe them at long range

@thegoldenbunny4020 2 года назад

wow a ship that actually seems balanced by its poor firing angles, g.k should be taking tips tbh

@jacobotha6158 2 года назад

Frustrating ship? Would it be German if it wasn't frustrating? Maybe it's because the manual came in German only... . .

@samuelju2 2 года назад

I just don't understand how this ship is balanced.

@ege2691 Год назад

its weak on paper but really strong in game

@cemborembo 2 года назад

What a 2022 ship :/

@pewterschmidt23lord99 2 года назад

This ship doesnt look that good just by not getting the citadels

@zacharyjackson1829 2 года назад

that's because it has the smallest caliber guns of all the tier X BBs in the game. this thing has battlecruiser guns so it isnt gonna punch through anything that isnt close up it's meant to be an HE spammer

@EvoraGT430 2 года назад

@@zacharyjackson1829 Incorrect. It gets citadels just fine and its AP is much stronger than this film suggests.

@zacharyjackson1829 2 года назад

@@EvoraGT430 im sure it can get citadels, like any other battlecruiser guns can, but CLOSER. I can run around in an Azuma and punch through any battleship i want with my 310s at ~8-10km but that doesnt mean jack shit when im 14 or more km away

@geekonomist Год назад

Much tankier than bourgogne. 16 shells better than burger. Better armour. Torps...

@gonzalezalvajero7297 Год назад

I have both, but Bourgogne is better it's sure, but this ship also have potential and funny.

@eugeneugen7001 2 года назад

Hello! Flamu, to be serious, presents a video with Mecklenburg against tier 10 not tier 8 ships, to show how good he is on his level. We decide if we like it, buy it or not. You should be more serious about the presentations! You work for WOWS, be more serious!