Also, I smell a medieval Song China on medieval Korea episode very soon! Usually you would post several videos in a row for some weeks that have related topics, and you had Song China on Islam this week, so maybe Song China on Korea next week or the week after? Lol just my educational guess
You are not right the Chinese are not neutral at all however you can find an individual that is neutral to a certain extent The hans aren't gods of the middle-age
@@momjyy2504 Nobody is claiming so. While Europe was in dark ages, all other civilizations flourished to various extents. Peaceful exchanges of culture like this are something that we can bond over and not something to be competitive of.
Of course, we are the greatest culture and civilization on earth. You won't find any truth in pathetic America and it's false religions. Fortunately both will soon be gone.
My history teacher, who himself was of Chinese decent, told me that “Heaven” in ancient China was more a universal force than a place. So when the writer says they “pray to Heaven” they probably mean God)
I learned this from a goddamn Journey to The East serial. "Heaven" is a collective term for the Kingdom of Gods and not a place. English just doesn't have the equivalent word for it.
That’s ultimately what ‘God’ is. It’s nothing more than a title used to describe the complex understanding of the universe or to be more precise the conscious energy of the universe from which all creation is created from. Hence the phrase “God is with us” because we are of it. In pop culture this is known as the Living Force in Star Wars and our connection to it is described as Neural Physics in Halo. Those who channel it to manipulate the material 3 dimensional realm that our biological avatars anchor our souls/essence too are known in popculture as the Jedi who are inspired by the Abhijnas found in Buddhism. Now this interpretation of God itself is not fixated on this and takes on many meanings, this is emphasized in the differentiation God portrayed in the Old Testament not being the same as God portrayed in the New Testament where it takes on the divinity. Originally the term ‘God’ itself is derived from the final abrahimic English translation of Enlil, the Annunaki depicted in Sumeria who is also known as Horus the Elder in Egypt, Zeus in Greece, Jupiter in Rome, Thor in Norse as well as Shiva In Hindu. Enlils brother, Enki, is known as Osiris in Egypt, Hades in Greece, Pluto in Rome, Loki in Norse, Vishnu in Hindu and Lucifer in Abraham. The Abrahimic translation of God itself is based on the forensics of both Elohim and Allah from which are derived from Enlil, hence why I am able to make this connection. Enlil in Sumeria is known as Ellil in Mesopotamia overall. This is translated to El in phonecian from which the Hebrew translate it to Elohim and phrase it as Hayyim Elohim meaning “The Living God”. El is also translated to Ila (pronounced Ela) in Akkadian from which its then translated to as Al Lah in old Arabic meaning ‘The God’ before being conjoined in modern Arabic as Allah meaning God and is phrased as Allah Akbar meaning God is great. This connection is furthered by the islamic branding of the star and crescent which is derived from the Sumerian iconography of the Sin and Ishtar. It’s also worth noting that the Kaaba itself which existed long before Islam is known as the Tomb of Osiris (Enki/Lucifer).
Just for clarification: in Medieval China the term “buddha” was sometimes used to refer to any “enlightened spiritual figure”, not just those of Buddhism. Thus Prophet Mohammed was referred to as a “buddha” in this account. This account also used the term “Heaven” for Allah. “Heaven” (Tian) is the Ancient Chinese term for the Supreme God dating back to 1000 BCE. Though in later Confucian philosophy Heaven is considered to be the Impersonal Moral Force and Principle that underpins the universe rather than a personal God. There is a popular ancient theological belief among the Chinese-speaking Hui Muslims that the Chinese “Heaven” is the same True God as the Muslim Allah. This idea was later borrowed by the Catholic Jesuits and to this day Chinese Catholics refers to God as the “Lord of Heaven”.
But how are you sure that the medieval Chinese *knew* that those enlightened spiritual figures weren't Buddhist? Do you have any evidence of their talking about Daoist Buddhas, for example?
@@dumupad3-da241 Ancient Chinese travellers always got confused with religions. For example, a Chinese traveller to India in the 7th century frequently described the Emperor Harshavardhana as a Buddhist, eventhough we know from the Emperor's own records that he was a Hindu Shaivite (Devotee of Shiva). Chinese travellers also found it difficult to tell the difference between a Hindu, Jain or Buddhist temple or monastery in India.
@@dandankokorohikareteku2620 He was englihted. You can tell that from various eye Witness testimony describing His face emits radiance. It is said bcz He has seen the light veil of God.
"Ma Hia Wu" is likely near modern Chinese pronunciation. From what I've heard Cantonese resembles Middle Chinese pronunciation a lot more and is probably closer to the dialect spoken at the time this was written. Assuming the characters are "马(ma)夏(xia)午(wu)", the Cantonese pronunciation would be "Ma Ha Mou" which sounds closer to Muhammad.
@@syedzubair1351 Maybe it's a regional thing. I am from SEA and lots of Chinese people here speak Cantonese, no problem. Chinatown shopowners in the UK all spoke Cantonese when I was there. As for China it's more like imposing their will and culture onto another country, because China also has lots of Cantonese speaking regions, just not as their national language. These are all personal opinions and observations though.
@@syedzubair1351 It's not that Mandarin speakers dislike Cantonese, it's probably some level of (mutual) regional stereotyping and being defensive of one's own culture. I grew up in Guangzhou and I can tell you that Cantonese people also don't like "Northerners" and have a special term for them. Mandarin speakers call Cantonese "bird's tongue" because it sounds weird to them. No, we don't actually hate each other, it's kinda like how American's dislike New Yorkers or Texans.
@@-haclong2366 the biggest number of deaths in the history of the *world until now, not only of that period. It is estimated 11% of total world population at that time died during mongol invasions. More deaths than in world war 2.
"Berbera Coast" likely refers to Somalia, as Berbera is an Ancient city there that was a major port in the medieval period, and of course it describes animals common in East Africa.
@@Altrantis It comes from the Greek Barbara meaning 'strange or foreign' Berbers call themselves Amazigh. Berber Coast means the north African bit of the Mediterranean. Berbera is thought to be the ancient port of Malao. Muslims/Moors began be known as Berbers and the port was very important to them.
"No one dared invade this country"... 33 years later, he may have been surprised. In fact, depending on when he wrote this, he may have been surprised on his return to China.
we indonesians also call ostriches camel cranes just like medieval chinese. "Burung Unta" in indonesian; "Burung" is crane/bird; "unta" is "camel" so yeah, we call it camel cranes also.
The description of Giraffes sounds like someone described them to him and he decided "that must be an exageration" and toned down their size so his audience wouldn't call it nonsense, because no animal could ever be that big.
@SirSnufflelots Well, I guess a horse with a horn isn't that crazy. There's plenty other animals with and without horns, like sheep. But a horse-thing with a 5 meter long neck? Come on, that's ridiculous!
These were not simpler times. It was as comolicated as it's always been. No security until you are part of a tribe and powerful took from poor.easily. pretty messed up times
@@AlphaBravoCharlie777 This tribal mess was before the Islamic Califate was founded.. However, I completely agree with you that no era in history was "simple", it's just our incomplete image of those times, due to our ignorance of relevant details and situations.
It was clearly used as synonim of word prophet... and its kinda logical when you know only one similar guy so why invent special class name for this type of people?
"A man depends mostly on things he neither knows or sees all his life but a wise man understands this humility of never knowing enough." - brian padrick drake
It's interesting how Baghdad was recorded as 白達. In 1225 it was likely that the city was recorded based on late Middle Chinese pronunciation, which is best preserved in southern Chinese variants today. In modern Cantonese, 白達 would be pronounced as Baahk Daaht (Yale romanization) which sounds much closer to "Baghdad".
@@treebusetttsouth china due to its terrain made it more isolated from one village to another making language more varied but also in a way more isolated. Which can be one of the reasons why cantonese has retained a lot more pronunciations of ancient chinese. But it's still distinct from it. There's no real chinese in the modern era just like theres no real latin in the modern era. Only romance languages that derive from it
@@treebusettt there are dialects that directly descended from Old Chinese, older than Cantonese. But due to war and the throne being seized, the folks fled southwards which then brought old chinese with them and changed overtime. Langauges like Hakka, Hokkien and Hainan are direct descendants of Old Chinese but was never considered as an official language due to the differences in dialects from various regions. Same goes to cantonese, it is a descendant of Middle Chinese but back then, it was only spoken in a particular area.
Lol the way he talks about Al Hajj in Mecca "Every year on the anniversary of the death of their Buddha they gather here and display to eachother ornaments and precious stones" 😂😂
@@xochiltepetzalailhuicamina2322 Nope hes talking about trading since its permissible if moderate and prudent.. I know what you're talking about but he said gold and precious stones and stuff
Those Empires and nations were hella rich in those days. Most of Asia and Africa was. For example before the British Colonial period India was one of the richest countries in the world. The word Mogul is synonimous with wealthy. By the Time the British were ousted it was one of the poorest nations in the world. Hajj back then probably had a lot of trading and different wealthy people showing off their wealth.
The Ming Dynasty is perhaps one of the best examples of Islam flourishing within China. I was very surprised to learn about things like "The Hundred-word Eulogy" something I never would've expected to be real.
This was awesome. I often wish History was taught in such a way. Currently its taught fragmentally, and jumps around in time. Id like to learn whats happening in all the corners at the same time and from the perspective of those people. What did they call things? What did they call themselves? What did they call other peoples? Things cultures possessed, had their own terms as things were discovered and invented. Until peoples crossed each others paths. Currently, a term for a modern item becomes Universal. In time, I can see how this could eventually create one language for the globe. And dialects will be defined by the traces of the original languages of the regions. I love pondering this stuff...
For a sidenote, in _Ming Chronicles_ (明史) there was a section that described imported Islamic astronomy, which also dealt with several Arabic names. In the section, Muhammad is described as 西域默狄納國王馬哈麻 (ma-ha-ma, king of me-di-na in the west). The “阿喇必年” (a-la-bi era) was mistakenly thought as 隋開皇己未 (599 AD), which was probably derived from subtracting the year number in Hijri Era, while mistaking lunar years for solar years.
@Snakejüce Yes. It is the last volume of the 24 “official history accounts” (正史). Although Qing came after Ming, people have not yet agreed on how to write a chronicle for it.
To their defense, even the Greeks and Romans used to call giraffes "camelopardalis" -- literally, "spotted camels". Ostriches were called by Greeks "strouthokamilos" also, which is "camel sparrows". Not so different than describing them as camel-like cranes anyway. For that matter, that's how ostriches are still called to this day in Chinese-influenced languages: 駝鳥, using a character for camel and one for bird.
Arabs aren’t located in “Sub-Sahara”..they live north or on the same line as the Sahara but not South of it...Sub-Saharan Africa is tropical and green (no camels)
Zhao Rukuo getting a tour of the Berbera Coast Guide: "And if you look over there, you'll see one of our most impressive animals, the giraffe" Zhao: "FUCKIN HELL! LOOK AT THAT WEIRD CAMEL!" Guide: "er yeah, heh heh pretty cool right?" Zhao: "It's front legs are way bigger than its back legs!" Guide: "... I have literally never noticed that before... most people comment on its long ne-" Zhao: "ITS HEAD IS HIGH UP!" Guide: "...yes, because of its long n-" Zhao: "It's yellow" Guide: "..."
“And its inhabitants are preeminent among all foreigners for their distinguished bearings”...sigh. As an Arab Muslim well versed in Islamic history, I know how far we have fallen.
I like to think that someone tried to explain to this guy what the Kaaba and the Hajj is all about, but it was a bit too much to wrap his head around without context so he just went with "house of their Buddha"
when you consider that this was written for people who didn't have a concept of a prophet, principles of semi-mandatory pilgrimage or a kaaba, saying that people go to the house of their buddha gets the idea of it across to those people. Like we say cheiftain but there can be very different conceptualisations of rulership that isn't embodied by the word
@Вхламинго are you saying that muslims go to the house of the prophet mohammed in their pilgrimage!? And r I saying that prophet mohammed is considered a buddha by muslims
@@lucythemotherofathests1465 its also a tomb of the prophet. people usually visit them in their pilgrimage. I don't remember if its mandatory though. Too poor to go there lol
@@TheSquidPro Probably a long game of telephone and him never seeing one himself. What's interesting is he compared it to both a mule and camel so maybe the comparison to the camel meant something different.
@@perrytran9504 it meant the striped color of a giraffe he also referred to as a longer version of the camel. So stripped like a giraffe but the size of a mule with black and white stripes
This is extremely interesting to learn about, especially as a Muslim, hearing what the old Chinese people thought of us, what they got right like our daily prayers, fasting and hajj, and also what they got wrong, I find it funny they called the prophet as some version of their Buddha. Nicely done video as always.
I'm a Muslim and I'm honored they called the Prophet (PBUH) the Buddah, because to them the term Buddha literally means "Enlightened One" and isn't a proper name (the Buddah most people think of is Siddartha Gautama).
@@generalconsensus2518 If it’s any consolation the hadith that says that was written hundreds of years after the Quran it’s sort of like basing apostolic Christianity of the early catholic church
Even before the 7th Century Chinese silk already popular in pagan Arabia. During the time of Prophet Muhammad (saw) he advice his followers, to seek knowledge even to the point of travelling to China.
Unfortunately, sir... the hadith is certified "not hadith." Definitely a misattributed sayings from other people. And yes, misattributing sayings to Allah and/or the Prophet (PBUH) is the same sin as lying or making fake news, but with extra steps
Because the precedent was set for tribute. In 715, the Ummayad had stretched to Central Asia and deposed Ikshid in the Fergana Valley. Ikshid, being a tribute giver of the Chinese Empire, ran to China for help. China sent an army that drove out the Arabs and restored Ikshid to his throne. The Chinese also defeated the Arabs along with their allies at Aksu in 717. By 725-26, an Arab envoy arrived and gave 'presents' and prostrated to the Chinese Emperor (713, Arabs refused to prostrate for religious reasons, but was spared execution). By 758 (even though the Arabs defeated the Tang in Talas) the Abassid was sending envoys and tribute to the Emperor. It's how it worked. Call it protection for Arab trade routes and tolerance of Arab outposts in Central Asia. Cheaper than garrisons that would provoke a Chinese attack in any case. At that time until the decline of the Tang, China projected power to the borders of Persia. The rise of the Tibetan armies and hoardes eventually created a military alliance between China and Arabs. It also was the start of China's decline of influence in Central Asia.
I'm trying to think of how he could have possibly heard that Arabia was cold, aside from some kind of bad mistranslation. Maybe the description is actually of Persia since they have so many mountains there.
When we talk about the "Black-Clothed Da Shi" (Abbasid) or "White-Clothed Da Shi" (Umayyad) we usually think of Persia instead of Arabia. Possibly because Persia had interacted with China for millennia at that point and Arabia was relatively unknown.
The Northern mountainouis regions of Persia, do get cold and snowy, and back then that empire extended into Central Asia which has hella cold and hot in season.
I love these early descriptions of foreign religion, the way people analogised new concepts with ideas they understood ("Prophet" becomes "Buddha", "God" becomes "heaven") Also they like rugs because its cold! hilarious :')
The word for God in Chinese means "Heaven", it comes from their term to the Sky Father or Father of Heaven, chief deity of Traditional Chinese Religion
@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 12century the average temperature is 2 or 3 degrees colder than today...so in the winter it is 5 times than the average...aka 10 or 15degrees colder the the periods of now.... just like the classical time 2bc to 2ad the average temperature is 2 degrees higher than now and the winter is 10 degree higher....20bc time the average temperature is 4 to 6 degrees higher than today ...thus you can ride on the back of elephants between china and Mongolia....in year 1100 because of the cold weather...the last wild elephant died in the winter in northern china
It's always interesting to see vastly different cultures interpret each other through their own lens by drawing direct parallels to their own. The idea of equating Muhammad to Buddha seems almost ridiculous at first but when you think about it it's the best way to impart to a 1200AD Chinese audience who Muhammad was and what he meant to his followers.
Also, something interesting is that the early Muslims who found out about Buddhism also tried similar things, Buddha was considered a prophet by some exegetes and theologians and many still argue in favor of this to this date. There are two figures that come to mind, Khidr and Dhul Kifl, Dhul Kifl is a prophet mentioned in Islam and is sometimes considered to be a title for Buddha, while Khidr is another mysterious figure whom some Muslims have equated with Buddha.
You should know Islam was already present in China and various emperors had advisors in high positions from Muslim backgrounds as early as the 7th century.
@@Soealestrue in Tang dynasty there are only two doreigner pass the government examination to become high officer, one is from Korea tje other is from Middle east
3:35 Al Tay’yi is famous Arabian tribe that lives in northern Arabia and western Iraq and were the spearhead of the Muslim expansion in the East and were probably the first group of Arabs that the Chinese met and some say the country of tajik(tay’yk)-Stan were named after them so I understand why they called Arabs Ta-shi
Boqoreh I don’t think so , Arabs always name themselves after their tribe not their city or region and tay’yis were already living in Iraq so it’s more logical that they were on the front line of the expansion in the East
Well I don't know about that, Tazi in Persian mean Rabid dog, as it was the racial slur Persians addressed Arabs with. Tajiks means people who have Tajs(Persian for crowns) which was the name the Turkic hordes migrating to central Asia gave to the original City dwelling Persians.
This video contains such gems of knowledge, and the comments section is awash with people from all over sharing their gems too. This is amazing ❤ I appreciate you all who are sharing, thank you everyone 😊
Well, imagine being a medieval treveller mostly interested in exotic goods, diplomacy and traiding opportunities, and suddenly you see a mountain breathing smoke and fire in the middle of the island, where you were planning to trade. Of cause this will spark a great degree of interest. Btw, the guys who were hurling rocks inside the crator are quite the mad-lads. If the mountain gets too angry, there's noone left to tell the tale xD
@@MaycroftCholmsky Lol. I once had a campfire on a bit of land near a river. There were a lot of pebbles there. At some point a pebble went POP and some debris came straight to my face, luckily i was able to close my eyes in time, and it was a good thing too because a piece landed on my eyelid and burned the top layer of skin off. Jeez, almost took my friggin' eye out. Anyway, i'm fine, all i'm saying is making rocks go boom with a lot of heat seems like a really bad idea.
I really love this channel, we usually are told these things from a modern and often eurocentric perspective, but these accounts really tell a lot about a culture that’s being described and also the people who have written these accounts
It tells you nothing about Islamic culture bro just saying.. This is more a reflection of Chinese culture painting itself over the mans experiences as of course all pur experience is
It would seem that the Chinese did not use lighthouses, since our traveler saw them as alarm systems against enemies and not guidance systems for ships getting close to the shore.
This is mainly because China's ancient dynasties had long-term maritime prohibitions. So it seems that there was no lighthouse technology in ancient China. It was more common to dig canals and sail on land...
Their closest comparison was probably the watchtowers on the Great Wall or something. They must have thought it was a coastal warning system against intruders. I don't think any Chinese could have imagined non Chinese going out of their way to brave danger into a foreign land, hoping to come back with a profit. It wouldn't have made practical or commercial sense to Chinese. Why go overseas when all the good stuff comes to China anyway? Sometimes, I'm glad we got knocked down a peg or two in the past century or 3, to give us an excuse to actually want to go overseas. Otherwise, we'd have been far too comfortable in our own little bubble within China.
This... I'm always imagining how people in the past, travel on far land which everything is different and new from what they know, people, culture, building, animals, food, tree, etc. What wondrous experience they had in that said land. that is what a true adventure!
@@Dhoom1981 how are there ostriches and zebras and giraffes in Morroco or even North Africa? I’m convinced this is Somalia as all of these animals are native to Somalia and we still have a city with that name in the north. The similar name is a coincidence as this happens in languages all the time
ahh, history of trade and interaction between faraway nations and their people have always been fascinating to me, truly, it is a great thing that we are now able to access records of distant past by merely clicking on websites.
"The climate throughout a large part of it is cold" I get the feeling he came to this conclusion solely because of the Arabs' fondness for rugs and imagined they must be using them to keep warm
Every year From November until early March Most part of Arabia gets a considerable cold winter where in most parts it drops between 0-10 Celsius and in certain parts it may drops to( -5c - 0c). i live in the eastern coast of the Arabian peninsula. Two years ago i recorded 3 Celsius temperature with extreme cold & dry wend that makes it even colder than snowy areas.
@@user-hh2is9kg9j كنت أتساءل اذا انت مسلم أو غير مسلم ، اذا غير مسلم شي طبيعي وعادي ، بس اذا مسلم غريبة انك تضع اسم شخص الاسود العنسي وهو شخص مدعي النبوة وقتل كثير من المسلمين؟
@@user-hh2is9kg9j أها انت من الملحدين المجانين لو كنت من مثل الملحدين الاذكياء كان استمتعت بكلمك بس انت من غريبي الأطوار (المخبولين) علي اي حال اسف للازعاج مع السلامه
it's very interesting (and cute) that they tried to translate the names phonetically. For example Sicily sounds like Sicilia in Italian, and they translated it: Ssi-kia-li-ye :D. Get it? Si-ci-li-a
He didn't travel to these places. He was a local government official at a major trading port in East China, and collected such information from merchants.
'China has a good understanding of almost everything in Pakistan, political security or economic, that might affect the bilateral relationship, but there is one piece they just don't get: Islam' - Pakistani Sinologist , 2011
" but there is one piece they just don't get: Islam' - Pakistani Sinologist , 2011 " it's called wishful thinking... they do not care about religion and only religion that made the difference world wide is not Islam its Christianity... Japan was doing what ever they wanted in China until Christians came and forced Hirohito to publicly admit that he is not a God...
@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 All those mathematicians, doctors & physicists were Christians, Jews, Hindus & Zoroastrians. There was no Islamic Golden Age, it's a myth.
@@feintfaint7213 Why your comment makes me remember Woozie from GTA San Andreas game lmfao ? He was a Chinese triad member, and is blind, but still a Chad though. I just found all of this funny.
I always wanted this one! Thanks for producing this content! I would also recommend that you make more videos for the foreign sources of Islamic history, such as Sebeos's history of Armenia (ca. 661 CE), Khuzestan chronicle (ca. 650s- 60s CE), and The Spanish Eastern Source (ca. 741 CE). Thanks and best wishes! *Ma Hia Wu = 'Mohomo' = Muhammad
@@abdulaleem9207 Cantonese, a dialect spoken in Guangdong Province in southern China, bears many of the pronunciation and grammatical features of Medieval Chinese
Impressive accuracy! Reported with honesty and sincerity. "Ma Hia Wu" pronounced in the Min Chinese 'dialect' to which the speech of Quanzhou (Zaitun) belonged would have sounded like "Mahiamud" or "Behiamud" = "Muhammad".
For your information, in today’s China: computer = electric brain cellphone= hand telephone train = fire carriage car = gas carriage tomato = foreign persimmon potato = foreign taro/ bean in the soil mosque = muslim temple zebra = horse with strips we use the existing words to name the new things since ancient time.
Noted. I was a tad concerned at the lack of integration with foreign tongues. I've found that only south asian nations do that so heavily and thoroughly. They tend to use what they already have rather than incorporate new terms and concepts. Compared to day the Japanese. That have an entire script just for foreign terminology.
@@josephnigel8811 Some of those are Japanese words, borrowed back into Chinese. Such as Electric Brain for computer. Telephone itself is Electric-Speak. Dianhua (M) from Denwa (J). These were Japanese translations of new tech using Kanji construction, which Chinese and Korean borrowed. It's an interesting case of Japanese having borrowed Chinese writing system for writing but then coin words themselves using said system which then gets transferred back to the Chinese. To add more fun stuff in Chinese vocab: Giraffe - long necked deer Hippopotamus - water bull Hyena - horse maned dog Church - doctrine moot Movie - electric images Other terms in Chinese are also interesting: Star - fixed star Planet - walking star Milky Way - Silver River/Heaven River Gravity - attracting force/geocentric force Universe - this is a weird one, the characters can mean "roof and beam" as in part of a house, or they can also mean "all space all time." In this case the second meaning is obviously the more apt one, but the first, as in the universe is like a great house, also fits. Space - great empty Names of planets: Mercury - water star Venus - metal star Mars - fire star Jupiter - wood star Saturn - earth star (the element earth, as in, soil) These are called the "Five Movers." Analogous to the Classical Western "Wanderers." These names are ancient and were from ancient Chinese astrological and astronomical writings, with some alchemical attributes as well that's based around the Classical Chinese Five Elements. Coincidentally, the same 5 + the Sun and Moon were named for days of the week: Moon Day (Mon), Fire Day (Tue), Water Day (Wed), Wood Day (Thu), Metal Day (Fri), Earth Day (Sat), Sun Day (Sun). Note that with Latin weekday names, the same 5 planets are used. This is due to the same recognition of the planetary motions in the 7 day period in two cultures independently. Later, Chinese language discarded the Planetary Nomenclature in favor for a numbering system where Monday is just Weekday One, Tuesday is Weekday Two, so on and so forth. Earth is "Land Sphere" The outer planets were later added into Chinese language, based on Western names, but even with these, the names themselves aren't transliterated, but the mantles of the gods behind them: Uranus - sky king star Neptune - sea king star Pluto (no longer a planet) - abode-of-the-dead king star
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl I mean, yeah, I thought as much, I just meant that I think that's a cool little fact that they wore robes like their dynastic colours
pretty cool. my ancestors got to china from the arab penninsula in roughly ming or qing dynasty and have resided here since. there are about 10 million of my people around the country and a few hundred thousand in my city alone.
Pronouncing the same characters with Cantonese would be something like "Ma Ha Mou", which is probably why it was transliterated that way. But pronunciation changes and so nowadays it sounds barely like the original.
@@mohammadsaminirtisum6152 back in those days, people of nobility usual had their artists paint a portrait of themselves, you can see this is most prevalent in the ottoman time. In the east, in Chinese civilization, most of the style of ancient traditional clothing depicted today, example like the hanfu, the clothing of ruling nobility/imperial are all mostly derived from portrait painting or caves painting that survive. About muhammad painting, there is a RUMOR of his portrait painting survive in china, due to emissaries/diplomat interaction in all those centuries. But it remain a rumor, partly because: 1. Classical Chinese text did wrote that the emissary from the west, did present portrait painting of it's ruler to the emperor. However these can be the potrait of regional ruling nobility, not the actual muhammad himself (the princes/Governor) 2. In Chinese culture, they do practice RE-painting. Means, the paint drawing will be repaint after some 30 or 40years (due to aging of the original drawing). Along the way, the drawing is loss through time, or in palace fires, or burn by usurper or foreign invaders.
In the oldest Chinese dialect the Min dialect 闽南话, the word MaKia or 麻嘉 is read 'mo kah' and 马夏午 'ma ha ngo'. Note that this is the language spoken at 泉州 Quanzhou
This guy was a member of the imperial clan. He had the experience and money to be interested in these things. He supervised the trade in a port city (Quanzhou) in Southern China.
@@paemonyes8299 correct! According to the Smithsonian, "The ancient Romans called it a cameleopard-seeing it as a combination of a camel and leopard. To Emperor Yongle of China in the early 1400s, it was (possibly) a qilin, a mythical creature that has been compared to a unicorn in Western mythology."
@@YoAMAX I don't know about that. The expedition I'm talking about is the one from Kenya actually (not Tanzania, my bad) with Kenyan and Chinese diplomats meeting up in Bengal. According to the Smithsonian, "Admiral Zheng He’s “Treasure Fleet”-an astonishing fleet of ships that remain the largest wooden ships ever built-brought back, among other things, a giraffe, setting the stage for a fascinating and mostly-forgotten cultural exchange. Zheng had met up in Bengal with envoys from Malindi, which is now part of Kenya." A few were gifted to the Bengali sultan, who then gifted one to the Chinese emperor.
For your information, in today’s China: computer = electric brain cellphone= hand telephone train = fire carriage car = gas carriage tomato = foreign persimmon potato = foreign taro/ bean in the soil mosque = muslim temple we use the existing words to name the new things since ancient time.
As a Muslim I find it interesting how he got so many details just slightly wrong. For rugs, he was possibly talking about Iran/Persia, which was cold He mistakes Ramadan as new year and the Hajj piligrimage as the death anniversary. Its so obvious he was using his own buddhist/Confucian thinking to infer what an event was.
The chinese: “Oh is that your holy figure? Well hes a buddha now” “No we dont worship buddha we worship Allah through Mohammed.” “Yes yes buddha and ganesh” “Please leave”
tbf buddha is probably the closest thing they had to describe a supreme prophet who's more important than other prophets (the islamic versions could kinda be compared with bodhisattvas). It's like when they say that muslims pray to heaven, in chinese religion, heaven and a supreme deity aren't really separate things, so it's the only way that they can describe it. Even today members of monotheistic religions in china often call their gods "heaven"
For the haters at the same time Europe was less technically and socially advanced. Thank you Islam and the chinese civilisation for contributing to science and development.
Side information The word Tashi means merchant in Arabic, and the Chinese gave the Arabs this name, which the Arabs have always known themselves to the Chinese in China that they are merchants, and the Chinese called the Arabian Tashi, which translates as the country of merchants
No thats wrong, it comes frome the word Taji/Tazhi, which literally means arab in Persian. It comes from the arab clan Tayy, that is also why in aramaic Tayyaye means arab.
4 cities on that coast but Somalis also owned Somali eastern n southern coast for example the Romans visited north traded at the cape of spices hafun Berbera zeila Bosaso las Khorey n that’s jus on north coastt
