Mediums Are Eating Too Good Season 4 

I play world tour and there are an average of 10 mediums out of 12 players in each lobby. I’m one of them though because the revolver with a sight is unbelievably good

Pike needs lower rate of fire. It outperforms shotguns and ARs and... everything else....

Triple Medium is ruining this game. The only people who disagree are triple medium crutch stacks.

The only The FInals meta commenter who's opinion I care about. Most of the others really don't play the game at a high level. I'd say its frustrating as heavy to have all my defensive options nerfed patch after patch to the point of being unusable (mesh shield), while OP offensive options like charge and slam and to a lesser degree winch are left untouched and now are the most played aspects of the class

No. Light and Heavy needs to be buffed. The easy lazy decision would be to nerf Medium instead of finding a solution to buff the other roles. This game need more variety

As a casual light main, the CL-40 is the bane of my existence. It feels like all the medium has to do is point towards my continent and I just get deleted

Dont let reddit see this

Welcome to The Mediums

World tour is literally 4 weapons. Model pike deagles and cl40

you're literally the only content creator worth following. you put out consistent video after consistent video. thank you for this video; I hope embark listens

Defib needs to be able to be denied, light needs buffs, the pike needs less body shot damage and to reprioritize it into headshot damage instead of bodies where headshots are borderline optional. The 1887 at this point needs a 1 damage per pellet nerf, since embark refuses to rebuff many of the other ranged options despite releasing a weapon like the pike (no seriously, why introduce the pike if there is 0 interest in putting the other ranged options in a better place? Like the LH1 is still worse than s1/s2 and the xp was literally gutted out of existence leaving light with all mid options across the board, the revolver is still mid in most situations because of ADS bloom, various ADS movement inaccuracies, and a newly added buggy red dot). All in all, this season while definitely refreshing to see that we are not in HHM meta, is still APPALLING from a balance standpoint. There are 0 data driven and analytical decisions being made in regards to balancing and it shows. For me, I'm just frustrated because while yes, game balancing is hard but it's SOOOOO frustrating to see such blatant issues all around from the balance side of things. It's my biggest qualm with fps. Nobody even attempts to make things balanced anymore imo. Just casual engagement simulator.

I primarily play medium, but I play whatever is needed. I’ve always said that the defib is one of those gadgets that’s too powerful. I think changing it to stop the rez by shooting the figure as it’s being rebuilt will help stop the annoying chain rezzing happening a lot this season. This change would at least force teams to actually escape and hide to get it off, allowing everyone to reset for a fight instead of being low on health and dying because they had an extra rez with 50% health. Then the defib will be fine. (Also, the model only needs a wider spread no damage nerf, please! I don’t want another weapon dead like my Fcar)

me who mains sword : "yep agreed range got buffed on ALL weapons :("

What i fundamentally dont understand about the Pike 556 is that it has double the shots of the revolver but kills all classes in a similar amount of shots with wayyyy more range than the revolver... just make it make sense, what do you think?

I love the Pike! Its the best dmr/sniper/shotgun/rifle in the game!

Regardless of anyones opinions on what’s op in this game, nerfs are the last thing this game needs. Nerfs almost killed this game in S3 I think we need a flurry of buffs that round out the options in the game instead of making things weaker/less fun

Unpopular opinion: Mesh Shield is a TEAM utility. Your supposed to be covering teammates so they can chill and aim, not yourself. Because its a TEAM game. Ever mesh shield your sniper on power shift? They love it. If this wasnt true then teammates wouldnt be able to shoot through them.

I'm a top 500 light who has been playing m11 cloak for past 4 seasons. It has never been so difficult to fight high elo teams. Previously you could play close range and even in shotgun meta you had a chance if you landed every bullet with your m11, but the pike is legitimately gameruining for light. Giving other classes range fundamentally kills the one strength light had (I dont even know if theres a real reason for light sniper to even exist anymore, given how strong the pike is). My main issues with the pike are the following: absolutely unreal good hipfire ( way better than lh1 for some reason and on par with xp 54, i dont know why this is the case and why the devs ignored it), and way too good of a ttk in close considering how insanely dominant it is at long range. It is also way too easy to use. I hope they do the following : fire rate nerf (the devs seem to push the idea that having close proximity innately should come with more damage, I agree) and a massive hip fire accuracy nerf ( in no world should someone be allowed to hipfire a dmr while strafing and not adsing, this runs completely counter to the only true real strength (and not meme strengths like gateway in comparison to how strong jumppad and zip are ) light has in high elo: speed (for duels and strafing). Thanks for an awesome and accurate video and especially the callout on the delusional power shift only players who think light is strong.

triple med has been all over the place for months now

The addition of the career stats on everyone's player card is arguably my favorite addition this season. Being someone who has been around since the betas and have never dropped the game, I have about 19,000 career kills. It FLOORS ME to see someone with 70,000 career kills already. I know that they basically play all day everyday since launch but WOW is that just eye-opening. Nice to see them finally do something with badges. Also yea pretty lame the dev's basically made this game "The Mediums." The deagles are the most fun i've ever had in the game and have single-handily turned me into a heavy main. Sucks that the devs want everyone to just play medium i guess...

light definitely needs a buff i just hope they find a way to buff light without making them more annoying

How to solve the double movement problem. give heavy zip line trust me

Jesus. Those spawns are ridiculous it makes my blood boil by just watching.

I really think the only way to fix the role dynamic is remove the Defib, and give it to the Light. Then Light has a reason to the work with the team, and stacking Mediums does not give you more "survivability" then bringing a Heavy. Still leaves Mediums with the Heal Beam and Jump Pad/Zipline, and some of the best weapons in the game. They could even trade something back to the Medium to compensate for this, like the Thermal Bore for some destruction beyond the Explosive Mine or Thermal Vision to counter Cloaked Lights. The Heal Beam and Defib combo is just too strong, and was only held off as the biggest issue in the game with Heavies being so busted for 3 seasons.

Honestly i wish there was a choice light could make to counter explosives, mines grenades Rpgs, nukes when the existed, the cl40, all just melt light at a more aggressive rate than other classes. If there was like a flak jacket piece of kit they could at least counter it to a degree while having to sacrifice some other piece of kit

Appoh back at it with another banger

I feel like if they reverted the mesh Shield back to S3 it would indirectly nerf medium pike, and indirectly help lights be seen more in the meta with glitch nades

Medium has best weapons, survivability, movement. Yeah, nerf heavy. There are some options that wasn't nerfed. Charge and slam, pyromines, sledgehammer, googun and akimbos of course Mediums are having bot behavior with defibs and heals at this point

Honestly bro you're like the only one making videos about this. I appreciate you

Grenade launcher needs nerf

Give Light an overheal specialization, buff all heavy gadgets

idk how anyone can think medium got over nerfed, the ak nerf is negligible, and heal nerf has been unnoticeable (given I've been running demat 9 times of 10, so i haven't really felt the difference too much)

I must say after all these new weapons theyve added and being a melee main for 3 seasons its now the worst season to run melee. The 2 viable options right now are light sword and med riot shield rn. Dagger and dual blade could use a little love in my opinion

THE FINALS SO UNDERRATED GAME DESERVES WAY MORE PLAYERS ITS NOT ENOUGH

2:30 YOOOO, respect

I feel like I’m the only insane medium running R.357. I know it’s worse on pretty much every single stat hahah but I’d rather have fun with magnum headshots than using a gun that feels that games are easy mode

Do you think we could get a guide on how to run HML in current meta?

Thank you for explaining this CL-40/Pike meta.. I have over 800h in the game, most of which was S2-S3 as a med. I have since gone to light due to the sheer boredom of healing and defibing... The hardest weapons to deal with for me are the deagles and pike. I can normally out maneuver the CL players, but they present a challenge. V9S is really good right now and that's how I've been able to compete with the heavy-hitting weapons.

So, there's a really interesting dynamic going on. At casual levels of play, fighting a team of Lights, especially on Power Shift is one of the toxic ways to play due to lack of team coordination. Meanwhile, at higher levels of play, players are actually coordinating and staying together enough to nullify a Lights ambush. Embark needs to honestly slow the light class down, give it a bit more health and reduce a bit of the cheesey ass ambush gimics that are turning off new players in favor of ones that can help higher skill Lights compete at in higher tiers of play.

Defib invincibility is the main problem and has been since launch. If you revive a teammate in front of me, I should be able to shut it down instead of waiting for the invincibility to wear off

2:28 Almost made me spit my drink out💀

After the atrocity that was Emerald last season, I really just want to get my diamond rewards and chill in WT until these balance changes hit

thoughts on removing defib? or maybe making it a specialization? if its a must take, every time still, wouldn't it be considered unhealthy? it permanently takes up an equipment slot, its just too good.

in a medium-to-long range meta, sustain is king. as long as there are no competitive short range and disruption options, there's little reason to run anything other than healing beam.

I think the pike definitely needs a lower rate of fire. I’d be curious to see how it would be to split the healing beam and defib by giving the defib to light or heavy. Same with the two movement techs, maybe give zip line to heavy.

I think only the pike deserves an emergency nerf, other than that it would be nice to give some buffs to heavy after continuous nerfs and some very thought out buffs to lights so that it's not a repeat of lights pubstomping everywhere except ranked.

I am a casual light player and come up against teams with 2 or 3 CL40s. If I try to get close to them they can just shoot at the ground and insta kill me, they don't even need to get direct hits at all and I am just dead. It is so annoying to play against and I don't know how to counter it.

You should make a video with a newer player/ low level player and a veteran/ top ranking player both making a tier list. This game has such a huge skill gap

not a very happy medium, now is it? hahahahaha

So nice hearing stats and thoughts from an ACTUAL top player

Finally someone realized medium is op. Just make the pike projectile over 20 meters, destroy heal and defib, fuck cl40 and the range of the ARs, and we good. Oh, and revert the stupid sniper change.

I really just feel like the cashout changes need to be re-evaluated and it is a shame we are stuck with this form of cashout for the rest of the season. I like kills being worth more but I think they can reduce individual kill count and instead put some of that money into the team wipe bonus. Maybe back to 250 for kills and then 1k for a teamwipe or something so that wipes that consist of 4 kills end up being worth about the same amount as the current system but the final wipe is what really matters. Also, idk I like the idea of plugs (why don't we call them inserts lol) being worth more so that fights over vaults actually feel important but 30% feels like too much. Maybe the real issue is that teamwipes only make you lose 10% though but either way I'd like either plugs to be worth 15-20% instead of 30% OR for wipes to lose teams 20-25% and then we can assess how things are at that point. For weapons/gadgets I'm sort of at a loss. I want the Pike to be adjusted and for maybe CL40 to get toned down a bit but outside of that I'm unsure what could "fix" the game. I genuinely felt like S3's balance was the closest to ideal that we had ever had in terms of class viability and S4 doesn't feel too far off of that. Lights being unable to buff without pissing off casuals really sucks and I really don't know what the class could be given to make them more relevant within their existing toolkit. It is disheartening that the class just kind of has to stay bad forever or be heavily reworked in fundamental ways to avoid endless bitching from people with no aim, game sense or ability to work together as a team.

i'm just tired of heavy being nerfed to the ground to the point where people only use the things that are left, I.E. Charge and deagles. No mesh, no winch claw, just charge and deagles, even when I see using the m60 I just focus them as the easier targets because the burst damage this season is way too easy.

Embark went in the right direction but over-tuned a lot of the balancing. I'd say to revert the xp nerf and instead reduce it's damage at range, and also reduce he nerf to the LH1. Keep the nerf to heavy mesh, but reduce the cooldown to like 2 or 3 seconds instead of 5.

Thank you! I was getting so frustrated this season with all these mediums complaining about being so weak, yet me as a light die to a decent medium in 2 seconds now…

it doesnt make too little sense to give medium LH1 and light the pike

I quit ranked because theres too many pikes and cl40s

I’m low elo (😢) and cl40 and Deagle really makes light hard to use. It’s really a damage problem. I can do crazy amounts of damage but not quick enough to their output unless they’re truly not paying attention.

DO NOT TOUCH MY MODEL 1887. I BEG YOU.

keep up the good work appoh nobody else makes better videos explaining the competitive/high elo meta

It seems like the problem people have is that mediums can deal damage and also heal themselves. I think more attention should be given to healing and revival abilities rather than just focusing on the weapons. I personally feel like this is what's causing the big issue. Lights and heavies have some seriously powerful weapons, but they can't revive and heal their teammates like mediums can. With the Pike allowing mediums to attack from long range, they can now cover all fronts. If lights and heavies had their own ways of healing teammates, we would see more diverse team compositions. Mediums were the only ones with that ability, so when they got stronger weapons, it made them feel unstoppable. Can you really blame them though? They can bring their teammates back to fight against a team wipe. This has always been the meta, they just didn't have the firepower to make them feel even more dangerous until now. Ultimately, I'm sure they'll figure something out. Balancing is never easy, and there will always be ups and downs when trying to fix things. We've only had one small patch so far, so it's hard for me to draw any conclusions as the season just started and new weapons are always going to shake things up. I'd rather wait for further patches than make any judgments based on the beginning of a new season, as they're never perfect from the start.

Big fan of your sharing high-ELO gameplay. Nice vid and thanks. 12:09 Totally agree with the analysis. If I were a highly talented game designer, it seems like one solution would be to add some very high skill floor + high skill ceiling light loadouts if that could be managed. That way, lights wouldn't get more annoying and oppressive in low-ELO, and they might just start to get viable in high-ELO. I'm probably stating something very elementary and obvious to experienced gamers, but I haven't thought much about these things before. Now, I'm going to go waste 15 minutes trying to think up such a thing only to come up empty. (I actually haven't been gaming for that long, so it would be cool if you had some examples of high skill floor + high skill ceiling mechanics that have been notorious in other games, as I would be genuinely curious.)

I'll have to give this build a try again. Pretty much been a Demat main since it came out. The amount of incredible surprise flanks I've gotten is staggering.

Very refreshing video, instead of coming at it with a negative angle (which we've seen alot in this community) u seemed to deliver it in a very positive way. You're obviously enjoying the game, but that doesn't mean that u can't see problems with it. Definition of constructive critisism

cl40 pisses me off

My friend and I were discussing spreading the heal support power to the other classes. Nerf the heal beam a bit more, then add some different heal options to Heavy and Medium. Stims, heal grenades, heal drones, etc. That way the total team healing can still be that high, but requires more people sacrificing gadgets/specializations, or you could have a different class be the healer. There's a lot of ~potential~ to swap roles with the current weapons and gadgets, but it's not quite there. Medium can sorta tank with riot shield or potentially dual swords, but it's weak with just melee. I think it's cool that the CL40 buff is making more Lights use Grapple (It's been fun) and I'm seeing more APS. Pike I feel should be geared towards long range and suffer up close. Hipfire, mag size, fire rate, maybe one of those weird Battlefield damage curves that starts low then increases to a peak then drops off again.

As a medium main (although I’ve been playing a lot of heavy this season lol) I agree that medium is too strong right now. I mostly think the pike is the main issue at the moment. It simply shreds too quickly at any range. That’s part of the reason that lights are having a tough time right now - although nerfing the sniper and the xp were HUGE mistakes too, as they would make it easier for lights to counter a bit better. I also like that you said the cl-40 is mainly an issue in low elo, because personally I view it as a free win at the moment whenever I see people using them. APS completely shuts them down and allows your team to pick them off real quick or at least get into a better position. I think the issue there again is that lights to SPECIFICALLY have a great counter to the cl-40. Heavy can goo or dome shield real quick, and medium can drop an aps, but lights mainly just have to find a way to retreat quickly either by dashing or grappling away which you can’t always do, and that’s why it’s tough. At the same time though, the cl-40 is currently the best way (in my opinion) to counter the sword which you don’t see too often, but is highly oppressive in the right hands. I also don’t think the cl-40 should receive a damage nerf, as making it more than a 3 shot against heavies would push it back into irrelevancy which is something I don’t think is good. Lastly, I’ve been seeing this going around a lot where people think the defibs should move to a specialisation, and I gotta say, that’s probably the best way to nerf mediums right now. I’m at the point - even as a medium main - where I think having a full team of healers AND revivers is too much when all three of them also have something as oppressive as the pike. If you were made to pick one or the other, not only would that make things more balanced in my opinion, but it would also open up way more interesting loadout option since defib wouldn’t be a crutch gadget anymore. I could run data reshaper/glitch mine/jump pad for example and just be able to shut down other people’s gadgets. That would be super fun. Anyways. I always enjoy your discussion! Thanks for the video!

I only play light with dagger and cloak cuz its pretty casual

Make sword instantly teleport you to enemies and one shot them

Can you do a video on how the higher MMR players counter things that low MMR players have issues with? Things like defibs are still giving us trouble.

CL40 and pike makes punishing light players trivial

As far as the issue with pike I think that people shouldn’t be able to kill a light in three (body)shots I don’t think the pike needs any range nerfs considering it’s meant for a ranged play style but I do think that the hip fire needs to be changed or just the gun in general so that players can close the distance and then still have a chance to get the kill i’m not saying this is the perfect way to fix it I am not a developer I just don’t want the pike to be in a similar situation as the Xp54..I would love to hear other peoples opinions bc I would love some (supported) feedback:) also also I think a range nerf similar to what the sniper got would be good

I’m in gold right now. Double CL-40 + Heavy is pretty strong when my ping doesn’t skyrocket. (I’m in Australia so I have to play on Asia servers) I’ve been pretty decent with the Model since S2 so I’ve been trying to learn Pike, but I’m finding it really hard. Revolver has been my saving grace on Aisa ping since the AKM is now in the dirt.

I would be stoked if we got a Bow buff. Maybe a 10% ramp up time when it’s close to being fully drawn and then a headshot multiplier buff

I think the defib need a real nerf Fighting versus 3 medium with a defib is so strong and annoying Like you say you are fighting with a team with 1500 hp with constant healing instead of a 750 hp team My idea : When a medium is using it, it begin the cooldown for all the medium in the same team It would prevent the chain of 3 defib I think the defib on one medium is good Not op but not bad The fact that defib is op is caused by the chaining of 3 revive in 10s You are the last medium on the team and can be ready to fight back with 3 defib and heal beam, for me, way too strong This change would prevent this, but you can still play defib on one medium or 2 if you want in case of the one with defib is dead Dont know if it’s a good or a bad idea I would appreciate your feedback on this

You know something is wrong with your game when the casual players complain more than the comp players lol. Apex Legends has 29 guns and don't even forget about the attachments and 26 characters and they're balancing is quite excellent take a notepad embark and start learning.

1. I don't want a Hard Nerf to Medium but a buff to Heavy and Light. Another ex. I've seen a lot of crybabies complaining about CL, but they don't even know what an APS is (or haven't tried CL themselves other than quick cash). Counters and when to use them is key to win. 2. I touched Emerald 1 by doing the plug strat as solo Light. I was amazed no one would do this strat and I got harassed a lot even if I made clear I was playing for money. Fun fact: they changed the spawns (again :facepalm:) so now it is kinda hard to do this strat solo. 3. That's why I didn't like the nerf to the Glitch trap, it counters triple medium so well, the problem is that the ones with said gadgets are the mediums themselves 😅. 4. We kinda need a combat medic class, a character that can really alter the TTK mid fight, Medium isn't a support. 5. I played against you yesterday, you had bad luck and got eliminated in the first round in Kyoto.😢 I was stealing all the money from the hands of people hahah 6. No one is talking about the Model now huh? I feel like the model was just hated because everyone was using it (I play mostly Light and I still don't mind if the model doesn't receive nerfs), and is happening again with the pike. If people don't really sit and think about the things they're asking for, when they implement those things the game will become boring and stale.

Straight facts, 10/10 will watch again

A disclaimer that I'm a middle-elo player, but I think that mostly the game is pretty well balanced currently except for the pike. I also think that the defib should revive with full health BUT you can take damage while in the revive animation thing, and maybe also slow reviving revives with 70-80% health. I believe that these changes will encourage more safe revives instead of rushing out into battle to get a revive with no cover and then dying. My main gripe with reviving is that if you're late to kill the person reviving even by the tiniest millisecond then you have to deal with a whole extra player with either full or half health when you may already be low health from fighting the first player and then you die, even though you won your 1v1. The CL-40 is a little annoying that it nearly requires you to kind of change your playstyle and gadgets around them, but I do suppose that is part of the game and you have to remember the teams you fight and who progresses with you. I also think that the 30% plug cash should be awarded after a delay (e.g. 30% of cashout awarded after 30% of timer) instead of immediately, discouraging lights from running off with the cashout and abandoning their teams, and also the same problem of being 0.1s late and then losing out on a large amount of money even if you immediately kill the person who plugged it. This would also encourage varied fights instead of just attacking whichever cashout is further ahead and also defending the cashout that you plugged. (note 27:05. even though you were there and ready, and there was only one light with the vault, if he hit that throw into the cashout you guys would have missed out on $7000) Also, while being effective in cashout, the healing beam is absolutely destroyed in power shift. I think that it should heal much less hp/s if the player being healed has taken damage within the last second or so, similar to TF2. This would encourage the healing beam to be more about resetting health quickly between engagements instead of just turning a player into more of a tank mid fight. I think healers should be more encouraged to actually fight during fights instead of just healing. This would also encourage multi-medium teams to vary their specs as having multiple healing beams on the same team would not be as effective, but having one on the team would still be very useful. Also I have definitely been experiencing the wacky spawns, from both sides of it. Been having spawns on top of teams, right below cashouts, across the map from anything useful, really stupid stuff.

Hi appoh, I just noticed you are using Mad R Major, Can you please please make a review kinda video(ik you are not tech youtuber but still) as there are not many out there and hearing from someone with similar use case feels more relatable. BTW, love your videos ❤

Hi Appoh, I've played the game since cb1 and manged to reach diamond 4 different times, as well as some mid-season t500 placements in s2. I don't claim to be a player of your level, but I think I know a little bit about what I'm talking about. I just want to give you some of my thoughts on balancing. Also, I agree with every point you made in this video, and thought it was nice to see someone calling out the quick cash/power shift mains on reddit. I think the glitch grenade can be a powerful balancing tool to keep the other classes in check while not giving light any direct lethality, and it's a shame that it was essentially reworked to be a direct counter to dome/mesh shield. I call it a "rework" rather than a buff because while impact on shields were nice, we also saw the length of the glitch effect reduced to half of what it originally was (10s > 5s). Now we get a much smaller and unreliable window of opportunity to act on a glitched squad, but hey! At least now we can directly counter abilities that have been heavily nerfed and no longer pose as big a threat as they did in s1/s2. Buffing glitch grenades to allow for more disruption of enemy abilities would help to keep powerful utility in check without nerfing them directly, give people a reason to want a light on their team, and doesn't increase light's lethality as much, which is the main pain point you see from the casual player base. We may even see the APS come back. Here are some ideas I have: - Reducing the fuse timer back to whatever it was in beta - Letting Glitch Grenade cancel in-progress defibs - Impact...? I honestly just wish Embark would look at light more as a "counter/disruption/intel" class rather than the "fast & sneaky assassin" class. as a final note im just gonna start listing random changes i'd love to see lol - nerf 1887 range, i understand the range is a part of it's identity though, so if not, a dmg or rof nerf would be cool. rof nerf would have to be big enough though. - pike - i hate the grenade launcher - i hate the grenade launcher - i hate the grenade launcher - just do something with defib and ill never complain again i swear...

I’ve been commenting exactly the same thing you just covered from day 1 on Season 4 and everyone says I’m wrong. Looks like I’m right now. This is the worst Meta. 2 classes have been nerfed hard and Medium has the best gun introduced into the game since FCar prenerf. Literally there is no way to combat the Pike. Defib is still super cheap. But hey, nerf mesh shield and RPG’s more. Nerf cloak and needlessy nerf the XP-54 damage (not the range?) So stupid. Fanboys are screaming how it’s so balanced. Yet it’s just Medium 3 stacks, really good balancing…. At least before it was 2 classes in the Meta, not one.

I think the pike just needs to 4 shot body lights and also defib needs to reduce/reset the defib cooldown of the person getting revived. this stop chain defib as well as the pike not able to out TTK a light even with body shots

Where's my fellow data reshaper bros?

Who designed those new spawns ? They must be even more cooked than the balance team

I personally wish that Embark would pick a fucking lane for what class identity Mediums should be. If we are gonna be the support character, why do we suddenly have good guns for all ranges and basically no counter play? If we are gonna be the healer, then why do we now also have cracked mobility? Not that the second statement hasn’t been the case for like the entire game’s history, but I still will never get why they made light the scout class when they are obviously the movement class. Give light the zip line and jump pad and give medium’s the sonar and sonar dart. I think this would create a lot more viability for light at higher levels since they could run things like dash with zip line and jump pad and then also have some destructive abilities too.

Finally somebody keeping it real. I don't evny the balance team at Embark, but they really need to step up their game. I'd revert to season 3 if anyone else was playing it ;D

What loadout do you suggest for playing soloQ? Running healing Med is massively worse in soloQ than coordinated play, and fighting off coordinated 3stack Meds as a soloQ Med is impossibly hard...

Pike is fine! Let's nerf sniper rifle even more for 15m hitscan range

Good video. An FPS could have the most perfectly optimized and balanced weapons/loadouts and people would still have a victim mentality to excuse their poor performance. The only real thing to complain about in this amazing game is the existence of cheaters.

Adjust Pike a little bit and switch the defib to a specialization instead of a gadget. Having to choose between a healing beam or a defib will balance the medium's util. Could also switch dematerializer to a gadget if need be. Having the best util, some of the best weapons, and insane mobility with jump pad/zip all in one loadout makes zero sense.

1. Are you actually playing against Brandy and Commit every game? 2. This plug and medium meta is exhausting, lots of camping and griefing. 3. Spawns are actually crazy, I also see lots of people only fighting of 3rd party and never taking a 1v1

I am a flex player too (though not nearly as good lmao) but i sometimes struggle with med, I’m so used to heavy’s destruction, and even light now with the thermal bore. How do you get around the lack of destruction with medium, after they made it so that you only get one explosive mine is the only way to have destruction to run demat?

Give light the rpg and the dematerliazer. Remove cooldown on mesh shield. There I fixed the game

How do u counter a lobby with lots of CL40s? I don't think APS Turret is enough. (I'm Silver and often play World Tour) Great video!

I feel like the only reason medium is considered good is because no other class has as good healing or movement. If other options for healing were added the healing beam wouldn't be as mandatory and if other movement items were available then jump pad and zip line wouldn't be needed either. To me, nothing needs to be needed on medium, the only thing that makes medium meta is the fact that it's the only one with these options, specifically when it comes to healing

My two cents regarding the amount of people that say that light is op is that while they are incorrect, they are misdiagnosing a real problem. Like you said, light IS annoying, and the devs should look at ways to shift the lights power and identity away from cheesy shit like stun gun and instead to things like their mobility and utility. (Defib on light?) One of the changes i think would be interesting is making it so only lights can get through the small wall holes near the floor. Regarding heavy I really do think that a lot of the perceived power of mesh is only actually there when you play with a heal medium. The ability to juggle shield hp, health, and heal beam is what took the mesh from “strong in a 1v1” to “mandatory in a 3v3”

This is the problem ive seen with embark and the finals. They dont know how to balance the game adequately. Last season it was the lights who controlled the arena, this season its the mediums. It just always feels like there is a meta to jump on instead of allowing any build the freedom to shine. I don't know who in the world thought giving a medium a DMR was a good idea. The sniper was already a pain in the butt, now i gotta worry about whether or not ill make it across the street before i get wiped 100 yards out. And like stated in the video, all you go up against is 3 mediums running around like it fortnite and jump shotting the CL40, healing and rezzing each other like crazy. Its insane. How can you possible imagine newcomers would want to play this game when thats what they have to deal with. They'd never find their groove in the game.

Second comment. Spawns being dumb is interesting. I wish they would just let the teams vote where to spawn when wiped or coining. Enemies being near the spot being irrelevant. Keep the action flowing. Maybe just a rule that you cannot spawn near a cashout your team was trying to steal when you got wiped.

Can’t nerf Appohs Grind 🔥