Meet the... DELL GTX 1070?! 

Im in the circuit board industry... the green solder mask is not cheaper than any other color. its exactly the same

From the pic I could tell it seemed oddly familiar to the MSI AERO 1070 shroud...because I have one...which I'm trying to sell...

Soldermask doesn't protect the components on it. It protects the traces and make SMT easier. MSI is the OEM for DELL I'm sure DELL told them a price they wanted and MSI made changes to make it that price point.

No window for that computer

That plastic flimsy piece is for the the routing of the tubing on the AIO CLC "hybrid" versions of that card (made by MSI). Looks like they just punch it out when using the same shroud on their two different cards.

who cares really? its a 1070, it will do the job.

You really missed a solid point of these cards dude, you can pick them up on eBay etc for sometimes 1/4th the price and they are fully functional albeit ugly but who cares at those prices. Then since it's a reference design you can snag up a reference heatsink and fans for it. Bam you just grabbed a 1070 that's ugly as shit with a new heatsink/cooler/fan combo for $210. You can't beat that anywhere and who cares about ugly at that point for extreme budget builds. (Be aware depending on reference cooler snaged up from 3rd party sellers / resellers may need a $10 internal fan hub to use but again $220 1070 who cares)

Odd thing is that while the alienware stuff is really bad from dell.... the actual dell branded machines are better in many ways. The Alienware Aurora is indeed rather poor, bad parts and rather sub par hardware to boot and at a rather high price. Comparatively the Dell Inspiron gaming desktop series offers an actual value for what it offers and the internals are actually better despite being from the same company. I would actually buy the dell over the alienware if i was not into PC building, the parts can be interchanged and upgraded with ease.

Anyone else actually still like green PCB? IDK maybe I'm just a nostalgic nutter.

Dell UltraSharp monitors are great though. But I just paired it with a new ASUS ROG Strix GD30. I have yet to open up the computer to check out the build quality.

I bought one of these for 220.00 used before the mining craze. No issues so far and has lasted me over a year. I did swap the cooler though after about 4 months

What if I were to modify the card and replace the stock cooler with a Raijintek Morphus II aftermarket cooler? Do you think a massive after market cooler could alleviate the thermal and acoustic problems with this blower style card and bring it on par with a not-cheaply-made GTX 1070?

Oh no, my battery is dead

I knew from the start that is msi card, I saw this in othe prebuilds not only dell's.

1:15 LMAO BRUUUH WHO MANUFACTURED THIS 😂👌💯

I have the GTX1080 version of this card in my Fractal Node ITX set up. Got it running with an undervolt, custom fan curve and an overclock and temperatures and performance are pretty good.Only paid £400 delivered for it new from an Ebay seller last November

It came from an Alienware, what could you expect

Well, Dell is a little better then some other OEM manufactures on average (no point in naming names). But yes, buying prebuilt OEM machines there does come about some compromises I don't agree with and why (aside from my first desktop and my notebooks) it's one of the many reasons I just prefer to build myself. It's a too bad one can't self build a notebook the way one can build a desktop. ;-)

I have a very cheap deal lined up on a 1080ti version of one of these Dell OEMs, but I’m concerned about longevity of blowers. How many years do you guys think I could get out of a card like this before starting to see problems?

Great video. Thanks for the video, it was informative. Just what I needed to hear.

I have two Dell GTX 1080's that came with my Aurora r7 as well. They look exactly the same as the 1070 shown in this video. I haven't seen any performance drawbacks due to increased heat though. Honestly they may look ugly but I a saved a ton of money buying GTX 1080's through Dell compared to Newegg or Amazon. When GPU prices are so high it's a pretty good deal.

Can't wait for them to put this on the market...

i wonder what the coolers for the 20 series cards will look like in pre-builts, you should do a follow up if its worth talking about.

Have a link to your PC’s background picture? Really digging it.

To clarify it is a Dell prebuilt PC not a custom assembled PC. Who cares what the inside looks like, it does not have a side window and it gets the job done.

that's weird, because alienwares cost tons of money and then they use greens pcbs on ram and gpu and a tiny boxed like cooler? i have the feeling dell is fooling us

Great Video again! Thumb up! Just one thing, if the 8 pin power connector on this 1070 is so impressive, what would be the "only (just)6-pin" on some 1080s be 4u? my EVGA 1080 SC Gaming has it and as i was tought, its the reference PCB Layout, so every "1080" FE and Reference Boards with aftermarket coolers should have "only one (just)6-pin power conncter" and offer even more performance?! Wouldnt that tell us about a better power efficiency of the "reference" 1080s, would it? This confuses me! please stop my confusion! Thanks...

what's that wallpaper on you PC on the background?

Finally someone is gone after the OEMs👍🔥🔥

Good shirt!

Tryed to upgrade an Alienware i7 2nd gen from the 600 series GTX graphics card, with a 1060, damm that thing was unhappy. No BIOS updates avalible, and the thing would often not POST, somtimes loading windows and then shutting off suddenly. After quite a bit of fiddeling got the thing working again with the original card and wrote it off for any upgrades. It could of just been a cheap PSU, but I think it was an issue with the BIOS/PCI. What was really strange was the PC had 'battery backup' internal lights so you can work on the pc with the mains off, with it nicely iluminated. Also it had a AIO water cooler on the proccessor... and the worst air flow in a HUGE ass case. Looked nice.

Green PCBs work the best for the cameras in the AOI(Automated optical inspection) machines. Darker boards tend to have more bad parts slip through because it is harder for the camera to differentiate part and board.

It is for things like this that I will never buy anything pre-built again. They usually also have their own proprietary drivers for GPUs and other components that in my experience tends to make things screwy. Edit: additionally, they usually cost just as much or more to buy pre-built than it would to build yourself or to buy from a company like NZXT.

Great video. I guess dell wont be sending you anything else though lol

Thanks for the benchmarks/commentary! You just saved me some hard earned cash :)

Hi there. A couple of years ago. One of my neighbours brought a Dell desktop pc without a dvd rw drive. She had to wait a month for rw dvd to arrive and there was no sata cable.

I just picked up one of these for $350 USD, was it a good deal? Also, will the heat hurt performance too much?

they do that in their Alienware line?!? wooooooooooooow

I’m gonna get one but one but it doesn’t show up in pcpartpicker, anyone know if it’s compatible with the asrock b450 pro4 ATX motherboard?

I have an Alienware aurora r7. Do you recommend me getting a liquid cooler?

These cheap cards are nice if you just want the board to slap a water block on it

You think that's bad you should see the HP Omen 880 1060 3gb

Hi I've bought an HP oem version of this card. Can anyone confirm that the card is NOT zero rpm because the lowest fan speed I get on idle is 1100 rpm or 27% on Msi afterburner

I wonder if there was a difference in thermal paste quality

I understand that Alienware/dell makes mass productions of these but honestly this is just too cheap

I'm still rocking my 750Ti. Hardware isn't cheap ._. With the GPU upgrade, I'd need a CPU upgrade = new MoBo = new RAM And maybe a new PSU

Damn, you should do a follow-up video on the XPS 13 you have. I'm curious to know how it has held up as it is not by any means a cheap laptop and by doing so you can put up both the good and bad side of Dell.

will a custom cooled solution for the gpu result in better benchmark?

There is a reason I have your videos on notification.. QUALITY.

when you say that's what happens when someone else builds a computer for you, I assume you mean pre-built rather than custom built?

I love that green! These days all we get is colors all over the place, making the classical green look like something fresh. And there's technical reasons for it too. The PCB itself is not green. It's the solder mask, a laquer that gets painted over the PCB to protect it from outside factors and keep stuff from getting in between the traces which can lead to shortcircuits. Also, green solder mask being the one that was used the most, got more "development" than the other colors and it can go thinner than all the others while having the same performance.

I know it’s been around 2 years since you posted this video, but can you please help me out by answering these questions. I also have the exact same alienweare PC. I plan to upgrade my graphics card from the GTX 1070, to RTX 2080 super. But fist I’m going to upgrade my power supply to a 750 watt. Do you think there is anything else I should upgrade? Also I measured the length of my graphics card, and saw it was about 10.5 inches. Which is the maximum length of a graph you can put in. In addition I saw online that the RTX 2080 Super founders edition is also 10.5 inches. I just wanted to make sure if that was true also.

To be fair. How many of these things matter. Now some yea totally agree. But some notes - Ram heatspreaders exist to sell ram. Not to cool ram. Or call it 80/20. You’ll see exposed to air it’s probably cooler. If they put a psu in that handles power needs and no more, that’s cool. For most people anyway Non K cpu? Well if you don’t care to overclock (which is a waste on that 8700, which ocs nicely but in previous gens was meh sometimes) it saves $50. Probably binned. Cpu cooler - well tbh in the enthusiast world we’ve gotten all about some 30C chips. But... there’s nothing wrong with a 70C chip. It loses headroom- etc but it doesn’t break etc. and you aren’t pverclocking so I’m sure they made sure it ran cool enough and left it. You pay a big premium for name brand everything. And the nice gas is on everything. But it’s inside the PC and most people don’t care. I’m fine with them doing this. In fact, I sometimes have to pause and think how ridiculous it is that I bought $300 worth of fans. When I could have gotten nearly equivalent ones for $20! So they don’t last as long or light up or are a little louder. For the money I could have saved I could have replaced them every 3 months and still came out ahead. Light up ram, cool looking GPUs. Water cooled everything. 2000 watt rgb psu with custom color cables? Let’s be real. Fun yea. Necessary? No. Worth the 100%+ price premium? No way. So it goes both ways. OEM is about looking at design specs and meeting those specs for as cheap as possible. Enthusiast market is about maxing our the engineering specs. Within reason. The spec differences you showed were in the +/- 5% range. For the average kid who wants to play a game, that’s cool. You know I never hooked up my Xbox. And what is that but a PC stripped to minimum specs possible. My car is sensible. My PC is not. There are lots of other people in the world that go the other way on that. So whatever. Alienware isn’t really a hardware enthusiast PC. It’s more of a software predominant platform. Like I mean it probably runs windows just as cleanly as my PC that cost 3x as much. So it’s probably a better value. I think about that sometimes when I think about how much I paid on my machine

What's your problem with green?! Green is beautiful!

i dunno what pc is that you are showing at 0:11, but it looks exactly the same, internal case wise, as my xps 8910, literaly, exactly the same (the part that houses all the components)

Hi Greg, long-time subscriber here. Could you do a comparison between your old 6700K and the new Ryzen 2600X in gaming? I think those two would be extremely close in gaming performance, and it would be great to see that AMD has finally caught up to Skylake. Thanks!

Mother Should I Trust The Government?

Why are you picking on an OEM piece of hardware?? Its OEM what do u expect? Its not supposed to be pretty, its supposed to be functional... this whole video is pointless.

Do a comparison of that card and msi aero GTX 1070? Basically same card but maybe higher quality?

Oh also when the back of the cards are black if you scratch it of or look at the side it is still green, usually.

They literally took the cheapest, shittiest component they could find and put it in a pretty case. A pig with lipstick is still a PIG. Hahaha! Shameless Dell.

Yikes that is one CHEEEEEEEEEEEAP card! Glad I don't buy Dell PC's anymore. Yuck!

Just bought this from someone who upgraded their alienware R7 - I'll be using it for my first build. Basically, just hide it in a case with no glass siding and I should be fine?

I just received one that seems to be from lenovo. Anyone have any idea if i should just use the regular founder's edition instead of the lenovo oem? They're both blower style coolers but the lenovo one has a slightly different cooler

Strange. I’ve had an aurora R7 with this card for almost a year now and it’s performed exceptionally in basically every way compared to other PC’s I’ve had.

what are the temperatures of that card on ultra settings of furmark ?

That's you off Dell's Christmas card list!

Alienware: Your crush on the outside, your ex wife on the inside

Was about to buy this for my black and green rig. But somebody bought it. It was only 300 so how could I pass it up.

I have this exact card can I take a broken 1070 founders edition and swap the coolers

My dell xps came with an nvidia founders edition card. Should I try to exchange it for a dell exclusive?

This is interesting. I was gifted this same spec’d Aurora for Christmas and mine contained the Founder Edition GTX 1070

I used to purcahse prebuilt computers before I finally built my first one. I have to say I really liked being able to pick the parts out myself, and you just don't get the same satisfaction from buying a prebuilt machine. I am curious however if the MSI blower style 1070 has the same cooling issues as the one Dell is using. I have always had a liking to the blower styles even though many have said that they extremely noisy. If it isn't going to perform better than the one Nvidia is offering then I don't think it would make sense from a performance standpoint for me to pick one up. Granted I'm not looking for it to smash out better numbers, but still be a tad bit better.

I love your pc wallpaper, how can i found it?

I had a GTX 970 like this. All black cooler, 1 8 pin connector (so it was a custom board because reference 970's had a pair of 6 pins, and on the back there were random sheets of metal. Like a backplate but it only covered 15% of the card. Cooling was crap too unless you cranked the fan, but it was a great overclocker. Stable at 1560mhz if you were willing to have a leaf blower in your PC. Ah and I almost forgot the coil whine was horrible.

So, I've had an Alienware for 6 years. I have one of the original X51s. The determining factor, 6 years ago, was the warranty (which was really useful when the hard drive took a dump right before said warranty expired), and that I was being gifted this PC. I got to say that I wanted something to last me at least 4 years, which it's done, and the small form factor has been a bonus with all the moving I've done the past few years. And for the PC itself? It's done more than it's job. It still does. I replaced the GTX 555 that was in there after 2 years with a GTX 660 (which seems to be a common upgrade), and then a year or so after, upgraded from 8GB DDR3 to 16GB. I could, if I wanted, replace the 660 with something like a 1060 and get maybe a couple more years out of it, because even though it's not a k version, the i7-2600 isn't where I'm having issues. But, the computer's at end of life, and I'm very demanding, so I'm trying to replace it. While working in this tiny case is a real bear, it's so cramped it always hot (CPU idles around 67C, GPU hangs out in the 50s), the hard drive is mechanical, it doesn't like to close, and I can't get in there without it biting me, my main issue with this computer has honestly been with Dell. The BIOS shipped with this version is pretty restrictive. There's no way to let the RAM run at it's advertised speed. My 1866 kit is running at 1333. This is... "ugh, fine," for the HyperX kit I have, but some a PNY kit I'd previously tried? Didn't like it, kept bluescreening. ... Then there was the hard drive failure. That was the first time I ever lost my cool with someone at tech support. The tl;dr is: the drive self-checked and came back as failing. I was in the middle of a project. My old backup drive isn't working. It got information to send me a new one. I called Dell after to SPECIFICALLY ask if the drive would be imaged, and am told yes. (I run out at 3am to WalMart and buy a new backup.) Replacement drive arrives, says on the packaging it's imaged, plug drive in. Not imaged. Get worst tech support people ever on the phone and lose my cool, and go off. OS being overnighted. I actually called back and told them they're going to be re-installing drivers, and then I followed through and made them do it. (Because it should have been done already.) So yeah, love the actual computer, except when I have to work in it. Can't blame Dell for the drive failing, it happened in my previous 2 computers (not counting the Toshiba laptop I had). Can blame them for piss poor customer service. Sounds like it hasn't gotten better since.

I wonder if there are differences other than the color on those boards like this, i mean is the material any better at something like durability, ESD etc etc or is there no real measurable difference and it's asthetics?

did you try changing thermal paste?

the green+black+yellow looks kinda nice any color is nice if it's saturated rather than faded brown

I have that card. I don't mind the green backplate, it looks cool I think, in more systemy-techy way. But it does get hot and it did freeze up on me couple of times. But I bought second hand. I changed thermal pads and thermalpaste a year ago and it works good. It does get hot, it's summer now and on idle it reaches up to 60C on default fan speed. It's a cheap 1070 but if you give an external cooler for temperature, it's just as good.

What case do you have? I like the computer in the background. Maybe do a 2018 full room set-up tour?

I bought a zotac branded 1070 oem card, it had watercooling in mind though. the plastic shroud could come off and sported a h80i for a while.

Can you strip out the internals of the Dell box and build a proper machine in it?

Green is actually as cheap as blue and slightly cheaper than some other finishes; however green mask layer was standardised by the military because it provided the best inspection quality, you can easily judge the thickness of the finish and see the traces underneath, which might be the reason some manufacturers choose green for OEM components, so they can use visual inspection and computer vision methods to slightly reduce the number of units that need warranty service, which is much more expensive for a whole PC than for a single component. Green can also have an optional feature not available with other finish colours, fluorescence that degrades thermally, so you can see instantly see overheating that happened in the past under a UV lamp, as well as any repair attempts and rework.

Can you buy the reference cooler and backplate? I wanna buy this and swap that

I want his wallpaper so bad, does anyone knows the source of it?

in their defense, the area 51 I was using came with a liquid cooler on a 5960X. And the graphics cards were Nvidia reference cards. So maybe it's specifically depends on whether or not it's Aurora or area 51

Yup. Green solder mask is a bit cheaper than, say black or blue. It's also way cheaper than matte black because it requires extra process steps to complete.

I swapped an “msi” aero 1080 which ran very toasty with a reference titan x cooler. And the card runs up to 20c cooler. Upon further inspection the “msi” cards have no vapor chambers, just a tiny heatsink. Runs cool and quiet now and looks nice in the system. As for a bit of irony, I decided to write “gtx 1080” on a piece of paper and taped it on top of the titan x logo for extra lols.

that one place with the thin plastic is where the LED msi logo is. i have a 1070ti msi aero.

I would have liked to see the GPU heatsink on the Dell/MSI 1070 compared to the heatsink used on the 1070FE.

I just bought an MSI Vega 56 Air Boost OC and that is the most high quality feeling blower style card I felt lol.

Quote from Porsche "First it must work if it also looks nice its a bonus"

Also, don’t forget PowerSpec from Microcenter. They use parts off their store shelves to build the rigs.

My 1070ti strix A8G has only a single 8-pn and it handles 2.1ghz all day, sometimes 8 hours straight during streams. The 1070ti strix a8g also has the 1080ti strix's 30% bigger heatsync (in comparison to 1080 strix heatsync). never goes above 65c

I'm actually using an HP OEM GTX 1070 in my gaming PC. It was salvaged from an HP OMEN desktop that died after three weeks.

Should check out so the Thermalpaste application is good or not, thinking it might be poorly applied or bad quality thermalpaste perhaps compare the the fe cooler with the msi blower style cooler inside for another video.

Hi this is a long one .i want to build a pc which can allow me to do my work without any problem.so i am doing work in a pipeline and use software like iclone ,cinema 4d ,after effects , etc i am willing to use 2 monitor setup what specs i should go with or should I take a all in one my friend said it . thanks for making videos.😊

did you put on thermal paste? maybe they also cut on that

I really like your CPU cooler, which brand is it?