Megamind - Atop the Fourth Wall 

Personally, I think it's better than we never find out what Megamind's parents said to him. It's easy to just let those words define you, but by leaving it vague, it ties into the theme of choice laid out in this movie. Whatever he was destined for, it's not as important as what he chose, who he made himself to be over the course of his life, ultimately ending as a hero. And I think Megamind forgetting things about the invisible car makes sense for his character. He is really smart, but also kind of an airhead. He can think deeply about something, but doesn't think very wide about it. He's do focused on doing things he doesn't take the consequences into account all the time.

Tighten does have a point when he says that Roxanne didn't care who he was before he got superpowers. HOWEVER! There is not a single time where the two of them interacted, before he got superpowers, during which he was not creepy. And there is not a single time where the two of them interacted, after he got superpowers, where he was not downright dangerous. Roxanne has very good reasons for not wanting to get to know him. This is a good example of how it is possible for a person to have a point and still be wrong. I've heard someone say that Megamind not hearing what his father said he was destined for means it's up to himself to decide what he's destined for.

I'd say Megamind leaving his superpower gun in the invisible car and forgetting about it is completely in-character for him. It's established that while he's incredibly intelligent, he's also pretty poor in sense. Plus, you know, going through a break-up would sort of leave you slightly disconnected from reality for a moment. Also the reason he never tries to just kill Roxanne at Metro Man's museum is more one of the first signs that he's a fundamentally good person at heart who was just convinced he was the bad guy because of how others treated him. It's never even established in the movie if he has an actual body count. It's the reason Roxanne isn't fazed when Megamind pulls out his death traps on her. She knows he's never going to actually use them to harm her.

In an alternate world, there would be 3 Megamind movies, Minion movie spinoff, and pictures of Metro Man telling parents not to vaccinate your children.

Nothing beats the "presentation" moment, it's like if Loki were the protagonist of Thor. :D

I like how even metro man stated he wasn't given a choice to be the good guy people just made him one

"Heroes don't have minions" Alfred.

Linkara: "Do not send me more copies of Bee Movie". Me: (looks at The Bee Movie Shelf, a Shelf Containing 100 copies of Bee Movie) Me: It...is time.

Yo Lewis! Two things about this movie for ya, showing at how deep into detail they went with some things! 1: Blink-and-you'll-miss-it-moment in the beginning. Right after Megamind shouts "Fire!" when both he and Metro Man are on the screens, there's one single frame, where Metro Man is behind Megamind, hinting at the explanation the hero gives towards the end. 2: The camo-watch doesn't change eye color.

"Most good guys don't really have minions." Most do, actually. They just call them "sidekicks."

In a trailer, Megamind's father said his son was destined for greatness. I guess they thought it was funnier to leave it undefined so they edited it out.

"Do not send me more copies of bee movie" Oh Linkara, what have you brought upon yourself with that one simple request?

I am annoyed that this movie was overshadowed by Despicable Me. Megamind had far more heart to it, Despicable Me was mostly just comedy. We feel a lot more connection between Megamind and Roxane than we did Gru and the little girls. Plus the conflict in Megamind was our failure of a supervillain going up against an unstoppable menace.

Such a wonderful movie. People often call it a discount Despicable Me, but I think it’s _leagues_ better (not that Despicable Me is bad, mind you.)

For those that don't know, there's a mid-credits scene where the real Bernard is rehydrated because Megamind forgot to empty his pockets on laundry day and Minion knocks him out with the forget-me stick.

I would say Metroman is a great depiction of Superman, you see, Metro City is over there and over there should take care of itself.

16:55 honestly I disagree with this statement. While I agree that there's a certain level of self-awareness in his characterization before he becomes powered but he pretty much was a narcissistic deviant and I don't really see how the movie is trying to pass any blame onto Roxanne. If anything, Megamind is more responsible for giving him powers and unintentionally enabling his toxicity

To it's credit, it is nice seeing a good super hero deconstruction on this show after years of terrible takes on that

Lewis, buddy, LIGHT of my LIFE, never ever ever EVER tell your audience not to do something! Now, you're gonna get a refrigerator box full of copies of Bee Movie!

Linkara:"Do not send me more copies of bee movie" Me: *checks ebay*

This is probably the 9th person today who's gonna tell you this, but I kinda appreciate this movie for the small bits of detail it adds. For example, if you go back to the beginning of the movie when Metro Man is stuck in the copper dome, you can actually BARELY see him zip around in superspeed for the revelation found near the 3rd act. You gotta go frame by frame, but that is EXCELLENT attention to plot detail, and a great rewatch bonus for when you're reviewing other stuff and run out of good stuff on Shudder.

“This movie really does not like babies” Well, the director also directed The Boss Baby

I've watched this movie a lot when it came out and after some time, I realized that Metro Man isn't as bad as one may think. I mean, even fi he's privilaged and, as a kid, kind of contributed to Megamind's situation, he was still a child and didn't know any better. Also if you think about it very hard, you can say that Megamind is closest person Metro Man has to a friend and theese three - Metro Man, Megamind and Minion - can understand their situation the best, because they are all aliens without home. I don't think there are flaws of character that Metro Man should address in the end. The only thing I don't like about him is that he didn't help with defeating the Tighten. Then again - whenever people are talking about Megamind and how he was failed by society on multiple levels and his treatment led him to become a supervillain, barely anybody addresses that Metro Man was forced to be a superhero just because he has superpowers. With Megamind, Metro Man, Minion - hell, even with Roxanne Ritchi - we have a situation where society operates on certain roles (superhero, supervillain, minion, damsel in distress) and kind of forces those roles on these four.

"My tastes are weird..." I lost count of how many times I heard that across the computer service counter at the electronics store I worked at in college.

One detail I love in this film is the color change throughout the film for Roxanne’s clothes it goes from red to eventually reaching blue.

I think megamind’s outfits are mainly inspired by Emperor Ming from Flash Gordon. I think the better joke would be “Jeez, does Emperor Ming know you raid his wardrobe?” Just something for your next top 15 missed opportunities.

21:12 that's because he knew both megamind and him were doing an act. sure megamind caused property damage but most of the time that was it. it shows why he prefers to just hide from roxanne back at the statue instead of just killing her. or when he thinks his trap failed, he starts packing things up and leave when he could just kill roxanne

Oh, you didn’t talk about the mid-credits scene with Bernard (Megamind forgot to take his cube out of his pocket so when it went into the washing machine, Bernard was rehydrated). Otherwise, I enjoyed the review. I love Megamind, so seeing it get some attention in a review was just great. Although I would argue against the film partially blaming Roxie; Titan was deluded and was a creep, so I think it’d make sense that he would blame Roxie for his issues. Otherwise though, liked the review. Looking forward to next week.

Now Lewis is going to get hundreds of people sending Bee movie dvds to him.

I once found some concept art that revealed Roxanne was originally going to get infused with Metro Man's powers as well and then save Megamind from Tighten. So instead of the hero becoming the villain and the villain becoming the hero while the damsel has to be the damsel again, we would have had a complete switch around of the hero becoming the villain, the villain becoming the damsel, and the damsel becoming the hero. The movie's climax is fine as it is. But I still kind of wish we'd gotten to see this.

A few things I’ve seen, based on my multiple watching of the movie... In no particular order: - With the invisible car, I chalk that up to his excitement followed by heartbrokenness, that he didn’t take note of the car. - On the other side of things, he remembers his parents so well because that was the last he saw of them. - Speaking of his parents, I believe they said “destined for greatness/great things”. - I’d just like to applaud the attention to detail the movie makers had. From spotting MetroMan behind Megamind near the start (yeah it was the wrong line they show during the explanation, but I think that was done for humour’s sake) to setting up things that are both subtle but also lead up to a later point (like the eye colors) - With the watch, I feel like the reason he didn’t are Bernard’s voice was because he was in rush... Just a random point. - Onto Hal, yeah she didn’t bother to get to know him, but he was also a really creepy person who believed she owed him her love, just because he’s a “nice guy”. Megamind, meanwhile, spent time with her, with no real pretence (to begin with) and even after he fell in love, he never pressured her, or her to love him... In short, people made assumptions about Roxanne, but Megamind took the time to get to know her, and do things just because. I may have missed some stuff, but that’s my thought... === Edit: I remember a few more I had meant to make! - End credits scene, Bernard ends up in the washing machine. - The reason I didn’t think it was odd that MetroMan didn’t mind Megamind was that the two of them always knew the whole battle for good and evil thing wasn’t “real”. Yeah, Megamind put people’s lives at risk, and yeah, he’s a villain, but the whole way through, he seems like a kid at play. MetroMan always escaped so he could trap him and set off a deathray, he always kidnaped the same girl, who wasn’t the least bit worried about her safety because he had clearly never actually harmed her, and overall, if you see the way he does evil, he doesn’t seem interested in actual harm, just acting the part. Megs said it himself “presentation”. He’s presenting a persona based on what he was taught.

"Bee movie but every time they say Bee we send Linkara another copy Of Bee Movie"

20:59 What the Megamind's parents were wonna say is not important, since they didn't finish Megamind can become anything he wants to be, alsothe whole movie answers it by showing Megamind's jouney to become a hero despite growing being put in the role of the villain by society just like Metroman was put in the role of the hero. Since Megamind and Metroman grow up fighting each other at some point they come to understand one another, all the time they were like friends, like the old/current Saturday morning action comedy "at Cartoon Network" the villain and the hero are friends even if they fight.

17:40 - 17:49 My favorite line is after the real warden wishes Megamind and Minion good luck, and Megamind yells, "WE'RE GONNA DIE!"

"Do not send me more copies of Bee Movie." Clearly Linkara has never heard of something called "The Streisand Effect."

Two things I really like about Megamind are the action and the setup/payoff of certain elements. It really feels more clever than it needs to be with Megamind surviving his fall with the dehydration ray, the way the hologram technology is implemented in the final battle, and how Megamind's own unique speech mannerisms undo him a bit during the fight. The way Titan is animated during the fight is, at least to me, one of the more frightening examples of "Superman but bad", because I really feel the force and strength behind each punch. The idea that someone with a toxic, selfish attitude gains Superman-like powers is more interesting to me than the assumption that Superman is unrealistic because he uses his powers for good. One criticism I absolutely can get behind is that Megamind should have genuinely apologized to Roxanne, and I don't buy that she holds any responsibility for the way Titan turned out. He made the decision to become evil on his own, simply because he assumed she _should_ get together with him. She didn't owe him a relationship, and he was certainly asking her out at an insensitive time, considering Metroman had just seemingly died and she was at least a friendly acquaintance of the late superhero.

"Do not send me more copies of Bee Movie." . . . . . "NOT THE BEES! NOT THE BEES!"

5:43 Are you accusing me of kidnapping a reporter? Why would I ever do such a thing?

The thing about Megamind is, while he is technologically a genius, able to make all these gadgets, robots, and other things. He's kind of a complete idiot in all other regards, from his constant mispronunciation of common words to the mentioned "forgetting where he parked his car".

I like how at 0:34, you can see how Linkara’s face gradually contorts with disgust as more and more DreamWorks movies are unveiled to him.

"Hal Stewart....Cute." I like how that's his reaction to the reference, cause I bet that was sales pitch used by fans of the movie. An interesting twist.

Ok but what's most important here is now you have a copy of the second greatest animated movie of all time: Kung Fu Panda.

My favorite thing from this whole movie is Metroman no-selling having things thrown at his face. I'd love to see Supes do that.

The end of this makes me want a "Top Ten Superhero Deconstructions" list.

Now to see Linkara go up against a real villain. Not Megamind I mean RU-vid’s Content ID.

Hal was basically DreamWorks trying to warn us about incels.

The "presentation" bit is one of my favorite moments in all superhero Cinema.

Megamind is a lovely dreamworks movie. Not groundbreaking but good fun. The humor and characters are some of its best qualities.

Something people don’t bring up about this movie is it shows the importance of having a secret identity. It’s made clear Metro Man has no secret identity which is likely why he became so jaded and burnt out, he never got to have a normal life. Even when heroes get unmasked, they tend to have at least 2 decades of normalcy before getting thrust into stardom. It’s reminds me of this exchange from that episode of Superman: The Animated Series where Clark Kent is legally pronounced as dead Martha: well this is a find mess Johnathan: well he’s not ACTUALLY dead, he just can’t be Clark anymore Clark: But I AM Clark! I NEED to be Clark! I’d go crazy if I were Superman all the time

9:27 within the year, Linkara would forget his own advice, not install a pause button on HIS timer, and blow up his house. This is what 2020 does to people.

21:07 I don't know if the movie says that Metroman _did_ hate Megamind. The talk in the schoolhouse isn't just about how he's changed; it's also the only time he's not preforming Metroman for the crowd. I figured that he was a less-than-intelligent rich kid who went along with what people told him until he got fed up and quit. When they're kids Metroman is a little prick, sure; but when they bantered in the big fight they seemed amicable enough.

If anything else, Megamind does have a great taste in music.

Fun fact: One of my friends honestly thought Linkara voiced Hal in this movie. I thought I could almost hear it too. Would have been an interesting point on your resume at least.

She is being blamed, but by the bad guy, so take the whole thing with a grain of salt you know, what it's meant to do is satirize the whole "this isn't you you don't have to be like this" speech, which would and should never work in real life.

I feel like over time Metroman had just come to know Megamind enough to realise that he's not really a proper bad guy. He does villainous things, but he does them like a very genuine person who just wants to impress. He's like a good guy who has just taken the role of a bad guy because he never considered being the good guy before. He's a very cartoonish character like that.

When people look at this film and use the Superman analogy, they think about what would happen if Lex Luthor won. But another important comparison is what happens if there was never a Clark Kent, that Superman was Superman 24/7.

Lands in a prison and raised by the inmates... so he's alien Bane?

"Just because I don't drop f-bombs doesn't means this channel is for kids, youtube!" Aaaaaaand that's something people doing animation for adults should REALLY put into their skull. Thanks for pointing out, Linkara^^ On a sidenote, my feeling on Megamind are exactly the same than you; I think the movie's okay, but I don't get the hype because I have actually seen a lot of subversion/deconstructions of superheroes before, so I wasn't really shocked by what the movie offered.

"My tastes are weird" My favorite video game is Final Fantasy VI, a game with themes of existential drama about the nature of love and family, the inner conflict between hope and despair in the face of hardship, and the morality of using and abusing power to fight against an evil foe doing the same, and it also features suicide, genocide, war crimes, and the apocalyptic destruction of the entire world biosphere. And then one day I decided "I'm gonna make a romhack of this game to turn it into a My Little Pony story!" People are weird, own it. Normal is boring.

If you read their lips, Megamind's parents were telling him "you are destined for greatness."

"Do not send me more copies of bee movie" Oh Linkara. What have you done

3:45 ironically DreamWorks is now owned by Universal Studios so a crossover With the Minions of Despicable Me is completely possible.

I found the villain surprisingly scary, I have to say. How quickly, and violently, he changed once he realized he could do as he pleased.

This movie should get a sequel. A true sequel.

I never even knew about the similarities between Megamind and Despicable Me until someone pointed it out. They just seem like completely different movies. Gru isn't anywhere near as likable of a character as Megamind. He had his moments like blasting that cheating carnival guy.

I think it works better that we do t know what Megamind’s parents were trying to say. I think the point of that bit is that Megamind, much like Metro Man, has spent his life doing what everyone expected of him, because he thought he had some great destiny to fulfill and all signs pointed to “fight this guy.” That’s also why he was willing to accept Hal as his new rival, thinking that since random chance had given him the powers, he was meant to be the new Metro Man. It was only after seeing Titan and Metro Man reject the destinies others had put on them that he was willing to choose his own fate and do what felt right instead of what he was told to do. Even Rebecca’s comment about heroes being made not born seems to reflect this, but of course Megamind missed the point until later.

My favorite movie? holy crow, thank you random citizen who requested this. And thank you Lewis for reviewing this!

"A deadly Bee Movie. Bees, my God"-Batman

I don't think it was the movie blaming Roxanne for not being friends with Hal, it was definitely just him. Given it was showing Hal as a power-crazed lunatic driven that way in part by society overlooking him, I think the toxic masculinity angle was very intentional.

Sometimes you don’t need a film to be a life changing event, just a fun way to kill two hours on a rainy day. And that was Megamind for me. As for next week, yeah, it’s going to SUUUUUCK.

In regards to linkara observation on megamind not killing roxanne because her seeing him in his pjs it points to a deeper layer to his character and the movie themes in that despite him being put in and loving the supervillain role hes not actually a bad person. He treats minion well and respect, doesn’t harm Roxanne (or anyone else) whenever he kidnaps her to the point even she knows they’re empty threats even without metroman saving her, shocked as everyone that he “kills” metroman partially because he didn’t think he could before and because he never wanted to. It was the presentation and show that he loved. Same goes with metroman in that despite being the hero he’s shown to be vain egotistical fame hungry. They were both thrown into the roles they play and while megaminf grew to love it metroman grew to resent it.

Oh, did it include "Spirit, Stallion of the Cimarron"? I like that movie.

One of my favourite movies from my favourite animation companies. I understand your critiques but I still love it. It's a shame it never got a sequel or TV show like other DreamWorks film's. Never realised the green lantern reference before with Hal Stewart. And seeing as he's Ginger is that actually three lanterns in one? And lastly I have to agree with Megamind and Riddler. The difference is showmanship.

Is it just me, or is Megamind growing up in a prison and becoming a supervillain because of that a reference to Bane?

Man that intro doesn’t have a shred of irony it’s just terrific

when you say ”don’t send me any more copies of the Bee movie” it’s an invitation for everyone to send you 50 copies of the Bee movie

When you need someone who can stop Thanos, who do you need? A supervillain with PRESENTATION!

This movie is so horribly underrated and deserves more credit. Instead we got despicable me which isn't bad but nowhere near as good as megamind.

I fear after this video Lewis, will have to "My god bees!" If he opens up a box completely filled with the bee movie.

Aww, you left out the best joke in the end. Spoilers at the end the whole city want to join in a group hug, and Mega mind panicks pulls out a gun and starts screaming -get back you savages!!

Note to self "send Linkara more copies of Bee Movie"

17:07 the truth is, it’s not the writers trying to convince Roxanne. It’s her fault it’s Tighten himself. He’s gaslighting her. It’s actually something that he was doing to her a few times in the movie even before he got his powers. So him trying to place the blame on Roxanne is just another example of him trying to pass the blame onto her for not reciprocating his feelings. It actually shows how good he is at doing this if a lot of people think that’s what the writing is trying to do. Because that’s what gaslighting does, it’s a very deceptive manipulation tactic.

Didn't watch this movie for a long time 'cuz I kinda hate the character design aesthetic. When I finally did give it a shot though, I thought it was great. Excellent cast, quality writing and some really strong themes and commentary on superhero stories. Also, fun fact: when they were coming up with the designs for Metroman and Megamind, they patterned their presentation on Elvis Presley and Alice Cooper respectively.

OK, now a Patron needs to get Lewis to review The Incredibles.

Someday there’s going to be a PO Box video where the only things he gets are Bee Movie dvds

0:56 Translation: Send him more Bee Movie or Monster Musume. 4:54 This is America. 10:32 Or his minion. 17:34 I think Hal is what some people would call a "nice guy" or ugh, "Incel". He's someone that thinks that he can get the girl just by being nice to her, and then expects a reward for doing what you should be doing in the first place.

To be fair. That soother is a power source that powers his gun. So he can’t make a new one without it. And I never felt like they were putting any blame on Roxanne for Hal’s behaviour.

No, not a contrivance. No matter how smart someone is they can still forget things. ESPECIALLY in the midst of an emotional event, like being dumped. Smart people don't "never forget" things.

Broke: Linkara doing The History of Power Rangers Woke: Linkara doing The History of Dreamworks Animation

As pointed out by CinemaWins, there's a bit of visual exposition you may not have noticed. When the film begins, during the ceremony for Metro Man, Roxanne is wearing a red dress (which is the opposite of Megamind's Blue Skin). During the section of the movie where she's getting to know Megamind (while he's posing as Bernard), she wears a purple dress (a combination of Red and Blue). And at the end of the movie, during Megamind's ceremony, Roxanne is wearing a blue dress. A nice touch by the creative team.

Pretty good review. :-) My one nitpick is that I never felt like the movie puts blame on Roxanne so much as Hal/Titan puts blame on her. When he says that this is the first time she's actually talked to him, I think that narratively it points out that her attempt to reason with him is desperate and ultimately futile.

In answer to your question in the credits, a lot of people just text each other to exchange phone numbers. Roxanne could have told him hers. Yes, you could do that on a flip phone.

Linkara, my week didn't exactly start off well. This latest video of yours has really helped cheer me up a bit.

Linkara's reviewing my favorite DreamWorks movie of all time? YAY!

0:51 YOU FOOL!!! Don't you know the internet?! You said "not to" do something, so now people will! YOU'VE DOOMED YOURSELF!!!

8:59 There's a Code Lyoko joke to be made here but it's escaping me.

18:01 only a true supervillain could show up for a fight in a swarm of robots shaped like his own head.

Linkara: do not send me more copies of Bee movie Me: Okay (*mouthing to the truck with copies of Bee movie secretly pulling up behind him telling the driver quickly go away*)

I'll just say it, it was greatness that Megamind was destined for. Why the line didn't make it in the movie is a mystery.

yeah, I think the point was that "you're destined to do what you choose your destiny to be" so that's why we don't know what Megamind's dad says... but considering is clearly a Spoof on Superman he probably told him to be a good guy