Mel C on Geri Halliwell Leaving The Spice Girls & "The Beginning of the End" 

Lays Guerrero extremely humble and honest.

@@peterpinsent9304 lo que tú digas

Agree

Jaissa Pierce 🙏🏻💜

Ryan Stewart what ??? Who ?

@Ryan Stewart tlc islegendary but Spice Girls is just iconic and the epithome of girl band

@@peterpinsent9304 sweetie clearly 🙄 but as the Spice Girls they are a big deal for artists who were only around for 2 years. Go away.

Mel C is not afraid to give an opinion now. Probably because she's matured and independent...u know she finance her own records and write her own stuff. She's not a puppet anymore.She once said that she's outspoken now coz she's older and she got nothing to lose. 👌

I want to know what those things were that she alluded to

Mike W eating disorder I thinkn

And now she has her book 😊

And singing voice. Lol

@@jaissapierce4057 of course. That goes without saying. Check out Mel s recent concert in Brazil. It's brilliant . I recently seen spice girls in Dublin and it was the happiest day of my life

Carl Stapleton lol, true. I wish I could see the spice girls in concert or even just mel c so bad!

Jaissa Pierce you will some day I’m sure,

Carl Stapleton fingers crossed! If the spice girls come to the US I’m gonna do my very best to get tickets.

But that isn't true. Their Third Album flopped and Virgin Records decided to focus on each Girls Solo careers which is why they disbanded.

KCMC92 sad but true

LAB-Lil' Angry B!tch i don’t really think people think about “forever” album when they talk abo just the real spice girls! - I think most of our minds think of Spice and Spice World

@@Lil_Angry_Bitch I mean Forever wasn’t a smash hit but it did ok in the U.K. and the rest of Europe - it was more that their hearts weren’t in it

They never left on top. They fizzled out, we lost interest.

Brilliantly put

My favourite since i discovered ot by watching the wannabe video

@Coffee Addict I'm sure the millions Geri and her record label made beg to differ, she had a solo career and made a living without having to kill herself or spending half her life on a plane and the other side of the world which is kind of why she left the Spice Girls in the first place. As Mel C said, you can only do it for so long and by then they were being stalked and had paparazzi following them and that immense type of fame wasn't all that. Many artists are quite content to be successful in their own countries and have America as a bolt hole to escape to and buy a mansion in the hills and just enjoy what they have without the hassle of "being famous". America isn't the be-all and end-all to many non-American artists due to its size. Most artists don't even try to break it as the costs and promo needed are huge. It's generally only once a European artist has done really well in their own country (when they have already made tons of money) the record label even try America.... to try and squeeze more money out of the cash cow before the phase is over. Tastes aren't exactly the same. Spice and mainly Wannabe was one of those unicorn super lucky moments that managed to translate the world over, it's super hard to replicate. Forever the third Spice album proves all too well that by trying to appeal more to the American market you end up appealing to no one in the same way the first two albums did. As they also had to spend so much time in America the appeal started to wane everywhere else. The same happened to The Wanted and the Saturdays and even One Direction to a degree. America killed them all off... so I'd rather bands left America well alone thanks. Geri's music was campy pop, so she probably realised that if the rest of the girls couldn't make it she had no chance, so pulled on the plug on American ambitions after the remaining Spices flopped with the third album. It was also the change to a more R&B style that Geri wasn't comfortable with and another reason she wanted to leave the band. "You're in a bubble The money's just doubled So call the police Cos your karma's in trouble You're in a bubble Give baby a cuddle You're losing control And you're sellin' your soul" : You're in a bubble - Geri Halliwell. Geri got her UK number one's and her face in all the UK papers/magazines and was on all the TV shows, did ok in Europe, Japan and Australia/New Zeland and that was kind of enough for her. By then she had her Spice Girls money in the bank so making more and more money wasn't really her deal. She's reportedly got close to $40 million in the bank at the moment and they each just made close to $12 million dollars from 13 dates and didn't even have to leave the country....well other than a short jaunt to Ireland. So the UK market is big enough for them. They all have kids and families and like most people, they have other priorities than money. And in summary...you don't have to do anything in America to be a global success, just ask Kylie Minogue! :p

She did say "here" meaning the states. It didnt do well in the states but the spice girls were worldwide so she was just making an example of why leave that situation which was bigger for something that was less. But geri had a great solo career as well, she did have its raining men which was a huge hit, I remember seeing it all over tv, hearing it all over radio. People need to realize the spice girls were done, after geri left they did their last album which didn't do as well as their previous albums and they really tried to fit in with the current sound at the time. Music changed too much, thankfully that happened tho we got lots of great singles from geri, both mel's, emma and victoria.

@@Sammae Yes she clearly was talking about US success, which was non existent for Geri

Well, actually Geri's debut album, Schyzoponic is the best selling solo Spice album in US. It didnt make top 40 on Billboard 200, but sold enough for a gold certification. None of her singles hit Billboard Hot 100 though. However Mel C's debut Northern Star is the best selling solo Spice worldwide, but didnt crack well in US. her single I Turn To You did made the Billboard Dance chart at no. 1. The reporter 'shaded' Geri a bit, maybe because how Geri left the band before even finishing Europe tour, let alone starting US tour! It was a huge disappointment for US fans.. And how Geri made some promo in US public as a solo artist, (for example, presenting at MTV VMA 1998, while the other 4 still finishing the US tour... a bit rude) but ended up she didnt make it well chart-wise with her debut record in US...

@@leoapp1223 Here in USA Ginger spice was a big flop. I remember she was everywhere trying to promote her album and talking about her departure from the group. It was a gimmick that helped her to sell a little but it was a big flop that didn't last 1 second regardless, it's correct to say that she was a flop here. Even in europe her 'career' tanked soon, it went down hill after that cover hit that she did and the third album was a massive flop. Mel C was successful with her third album in Europe instead, she also had a big hit in various countries, titled 'first day of my life'. Mel C has had the most successful solo career with the biggest hits and albums in europe yet she was unsuccessful here. It's strange, the only spice that entered the chart is my gurl Mel B but the only song that we heard on the radio was Mel C i turn to you and a song of baby spice for a while, don't know the title.

Honestly they are. People can say what they want about them but when they still to this day are the most successful girl group with only being together really for less than 3 years and only having 3 albums they really are legends. Look how they still can sell out concert many years later.

2.5 yrs together with Geri but they continued as a 4 pc for a yr or two...

@@musicislife.2602 Less than two years from their first release in July 1996 and Geri leaving in May 1998. ( But NOT on Mel B's birthday as Mel B keeps lying ).

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So had she stayed on they would’ve flopped?

@@mariahwhitneycelinejanetmadona who knows. Geri wanted another pop album, the others wanted to 'grow up' and be the British Destiny's Child. I'm saying that Geri leaving after 2 years has added to their iconic status. The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long!

period

well the proper third Spice Gils album is "Schizophonic" (not "Forever") anyway

@@0ksh ok well don’t get carried away. Forever is iconic

I agree that Geri was free to leave the group if she wanted to. Nobody can force somebody to be a Spice Girl - she is in charge of her own life. However, the reason it came up again is because Geri apologized to the rest of the group at their recent concert in London, a few weeks ago. Their 2019 tour obviously brought back up a lot of stuff. You can see it here. Geri says she was just being a brat. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eowezCt3Rwc.html

You can throw yourself all the tragedies so you don’t look bad.... that’s basic human nature.... and she was back a year later trying to make it as a solo artist.... not to mention all the antics she did for attention.... not buying here leaving the Spice Girls excuses...

My issue is that her answers always seemed to change over the years and it was always a nebulous explanation when she did.

When did her dad die?

alejandromolinac which antics?

When did Mel said that? Is there a full interview about it?

@@musicislife.2602 She says it in this clip?

@@RoryBoyle1992 I missed that part. 😆

yeah i agree. you can see how quickly things went downhill...they all seemed super happy and excited at istanbul and then as soon as the full tour started, she looked so unhappy. i think it didn't help that her voice was shot as her bulimia was so bad at that time (you could tell as her voice was super raspy), and that they also said things that kind of came across as digs...i think in their last ever interview, mel b said about there being 'four trained dancers'. i can imagine she just felt a bit redundant...i also find it quite sad how she threw herself into her solo career so quickly, as she seemed even more unwell then with the weight loss.

I think we all know by now Geri left because it was really her plan to do solo and she thought could make it big....

It's true that they had a thing but i think that was in 1995/96...when Geri left in 98 she had a boyfriend and Mel B was pregnant by Jimmy Gulzar.

Abroken Heart Mel b’s Mom always seemed to be around tho? Mel b dropped out of school?

@@mariahwhitneycelinejanetmadona Yes, she did have her mom but in an early interview Mel B said, "I don't ask my mom if I can do something, I tell my mom what I'm doing." It's like she raised herself. Also Mel B admitted that when she lived with the girls, she didn't want to go home for Christmas, she said she spent 3 Christmas' with Geri.

@@mariahwhitneycelinejanetmadona I am not sure if Mel B ever admitted to dropping out of school but she did tell us she was dyslexic and she didn't do well in school. When she left home at 15 she found jobs to support herself. So I don't think she ever returned to get an education.

@@Ineedpeace7130 That's probably because her dad was too controlling.

@@Ineedpeace7130 yeah that's in Geri's book as well. The other three girls went home alot on weekends while Geri and Mel B stayed in the house, the 5 were renting on their own on the weekends and xmas. They were VERY close for a long time, the closest out them all and eventually when there was friction between them it drove the group apart in 1998.

Probably but extremely selfish and against the huge message of female support and loyalty to friendship....Geri was extremely selfish with that move because the majority of people always liked then collectively, maybe at the time it got to her head that many people voted it her as their "favorite spice" and she probably thought she could achieve the same success solo, but she was absolutely wrong...I think now as adults they probably look back and understand that there was an unexplained energy and magic when they were together as 5. Personally I think it was a slap on the face to the fans and the girls.

@@cuntrella313 Do you know what she was going through in 1998? Seems there’s a lot more to the story then Geri thinking she could do better solo

Exactly!!!! That's what I say. You don't do that to friends. And someone pointed out in this day and age she would have been sued

@@dinahwestallen I 'll tell you what you don't do to friends. You don't continue lying 23 years later that they left on your birthday. A bit of easy research shows that Geri did NOT leave on her birtday. If all has been made up then why does Mel B keep on lying about this to fans? It's obvious. She wants the fans to think less of Geri

@@cuntrella313 You seem completely oblivious to the fact that there is such a thing as mental health and feeling depressed. Not to mention Geri's eating disorders and the fact that Mel B and Geri were once very very close but at the time were having friction. She has apologized. She was and is my favorite but i don't think she owes anything to be. If she was unhappy, burned out and depressed in that situation like some interviews from April/ May clearly suggest which also show other members especially Mel B being rude and dismissive to her, she has every right to leave and do whatever makes her happy. Also everybody is forgetting both Mel B and Victoria were pregnant. Spice Girls were always gonna take an extended break and they all wanted to go solo then. They just did not have the balls to break up so they did the promised third album 2 and half years later and pretty much split quitely a month after release. If anything Geri felt more honest to leave at the point that she was over with than the half assed attempts to keep the group going even though they all and especially Mel C prioritized their solo careers at the time. Geri also said she would have never felt comfortable trying to convince the world she was really an R&B diva, so there were creative differences as well. Geri did her big pop album with Schizophonic and Spice Girls did their Forever and i prefer Geris offering so it's all good.

They wrote and recorded the trash 3rd album in a few days. They just didn't care after she left.

She probably did throughout the interview but they haven’t released the full interview yet.

Where can I see the full interview?

They’ve already said they aren’t continuing the tour so

MariahWhitneyCelineJanetMadonna nope they didn’t say that. Only geri is still 50/50 and the other 3 still wants to do the tour.

MariahWhitneyCelineJanetMadonna actually they all have said they would like to tour more. So don’t know where you heard that. 🤔

Well she kind ruined it for the group! They were around for less than 2 years !!! Seriously how selfish can you be to not see the damage she caused.

@@huntybaby mental health and happiness matter more than comercial success. She had her reasons to leave, and all the others were also very tired of overworking. Some of them already planing solo material, such as mel c herself.

@@huntybaby You do forget that both Victoria and Mel B got pregnant before she left right?

The Spice Girls had already achieved worldwide success and with 'Stop becoming their first single not to reach number one in Britain? Maybe that was an indication of their peak having been passed.

@@peterpinsent6274 they were number 1 with viva forever again!

@@peterpinsent6274 if they had released Stop just ONE WEEK earlier, it would have gone to Number 1 even if it was for just a week. No song was ever gonna beat Jason Nevvins & Run DMC- It's Like That to the number 1 spot, that song was everywhere.

... impressive, really. And how about her legs, yes not visible here but sure you've seen them who knows how many times... like sculpted. At the 2019 Tour especially thighs' muscles wanted exiting those super-tight trousers. Same for her abs, but in first place that incredible, heart-melting smile never changed since the legendary days back then... that's what makes her so unique in my eyes, and that's why I'll marry her somewhere in another world ;-) ;-)... greetings from Italy.

She’s been singing a new song during this pride tour she’s doing right now so I think she will have another album out soon or in the next year or so.

Yeah...I mean I've thought about this a lot recently. They would have gone further for sure, but how much longer could that level be maintained. Another 2 years? 3? 5? Who knows...eventually I'm sure it would have come to an end (whether by choice from them all together or just due to sheer exhaustion and "overexposure"). Part of me wonders though if people would desire a reunion as much as they have if they were able to run their course entirely. Questions we will never know the answer to. They've forever gone down in history though 🙂❤

I'm really glad she did leave because that album with "Holler" was a nice improvement and Victoria Beckham was finally getting the lines she deserved. Also, in the Return of the Spice Girls Tour, "Holler" had the best choreography and that's because Geri wasn't there. I feel Geri brought down the skills all the other girls had because she was basic... at everything.

@@LeeoGoneWild geri was never a very good dancer. Doesn't really have any rhythm...but there was a magic to the 5 of them together

Jenna Labriola she wasn’t really good at anything actually. She was also very diva and very selfish. I feel she was the reason Victoria didn’t get any recognition until Geri left, so I secretly hate her with a passion.

@@LeeoGoneWild totally valid opinion

You forgot that Mel B and Victoria shortly announced the pregnancies after Geri left. They were getting married, giving birth and enjoyed their time at home, while Mel C did a solo album in 1999. Spice Girls would have taken a long break whether she left or not.

Valerie Reyna because it was never really explained her in America

MariahWhitneyCelineJanetMadonna I don’t think it was really explained anywhere, not just America.

Yup so true

No she wasn't lol are u foreign ?

Ha good point!

F84 yes and for a fan like me it’s painful and annoying.

Yes it's like she's not happy that Geri is back and filling Mel's mind with all the negative thoughts.

Probably because it was such a huge deal back then. Geri left at the peak of their success, in the middle of their world tour, without telling anyone. I remember it was all over the news. I think it makes sense to assume they talk about it at least once in a while. But yeah, obviously the girls are over it by now, which is good.

Because it was a huge moment for fans. Plus the real reason she left will never be known.

Idk they still are able to sell out big stadiums years later but I kind of see what you are saying.

I think because Geri brought it up during the last Wembley show, the last day of the tour. she apologized publicly

Seriously???? Because it was the most crucial part of there career.....they were only two years in the peak of their success!

It's her dream to represent her country in the olympics one day...I've seen clips of her training in hurdles but when she injured her knees she's lost her confidence. And now it's too late for her to pursue a sports career.

@@musicislife.2602 I thought she never gives up hope for that reason because failure is not the option.

They always gave Victoria a tough time because she's simply the best. Just like when they say that Victoria is the worst singer when we all know is Ginger. Victoria pays the price for being more famous and more successful

@@SailorSpears Geri pays the price for having as many solo number ones as the rest of the girls put together.( In their homeland)

And so rude to just diss Geri's solo work in front of her friend like that!

Christ. What a delicate flower.

@@jonnipannekoek1959 Ignorant too, as she did well in Europe and sold millions as a soloartist, not as big as Spice Girls but that was to be expected. To be fair none of the other Spice Girls did even as much as she did solo in the US

@@Marc-zi5cq In the Us Geri did nothing, she was a big flop. Her album sales were very low in usa for the standards of those times and she didn't have hits. She was everywhere promoting her album and overall she didn't sell that much. Mel C first album and Spice Girls third album sold more than Geri's first album, keep it real!

@@jonnipannekoek1959 Oh give it a rest you big cry baby. Even at the time, Mel C dissed Geri's solo work as well. Geri's solo work isn't fantastic by any means and Geri's "singing ability" is extremely limited.

Cuz Geri popularity call apologizeto the girls and the fans during their tour this time.

2WheelTonio I meant at the time it happened- she was almost engaged then. It’s a group near and hear to her so I know she cared. She has talked about it in her book

Probably she felt bad, but she remained Friends with Geri, in an interview she said that the only one she mantained contact with was Geri, a few years after Geri left

Yes. That's true.

Apparently, she left because she thought she could be the next Madonna. When she did that all the public attention was on her and she took advantage of it to release a solo album.

It was a strategy! She left because she was egotistical and used all the attention to promote her bad solo music, after her short moment of fame and all the flops she crept back in the group ahaha She's so fake! At least Victoria never used the group for her own purposes

Geri left because she felt heartbroken after she found out Mel B got pregnant. Mel and Geri were lovers. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Come on now.

There's always a member that leaves a group in the pursuit of solo success. Some are successful and others aren't. Beyoncé has become the greatest ever, Mel C the most successful solo spice girl, Robbie Williams the most successful take that member, Cheryl Cole, Camilla Cabello etc. Ginger Spice had success in uk initially but she immediately started to flop hard, releasing a long series of flops. Longevity isn't for everyone especially for those who aren't talented. My gurl Mel B has nothing to do with it

For me the turn off about geri is her documentary she did... Shes in hotel leaving the spice girls and she film to see the beginnin..... The beginnin of what youre supposed to be depressed....when your in depression you dont think about callin the women who was supposed to make the documentary of the girls in america to do her own documentary of leaving a band....all smilly ...ect ect for me that be the last thing ill do filming myself when im in "depression ".... After all the years after it was bulimia...the breast cancer interview ...mel b trouble.... It was allllll a bullshit...she just wanna be solo ....thinkin she was bigger then spice girls with her ego she trash the girls a lot of time .... And the 2004 documentary you see the ego come out ....... When u listen geris interview it always a story ..since then i give up on her i dont think shes authentique ...and now she actin like shes a first lady wearing white every fuckin day ..i think the only one whos the more real about her feeling about the group ect its emma

Geri left because she was madly inlove with Mel B.

Nah i dont think so. She is genuinely intrigued by what happened and just wants to know their feeling.

Joey Alan snowflake. She was asking her the questions and probing for answers that people want to here. How should she have dressed it up, all pretty with ribbons and unicorns.

Mania28 snowflake? 🙄🙄 go crawl in a hole somewhere. Mel was being honest but she was also very clearly like: “we’ve moved on. We love each other.” This is typical shit stirring.

Yeah, there was no need for her to diss Geri's solo record (which actually performed very well).

@@Mania28 She was shady as hell towards Geri mentioning her solo record was a flop in the US, well it still sold 3 million worldwide and generally putting a really negative spin on Geri, almost trying hard to get Mel C to talk shit about her. She didn't though. xx

yes it did work for her she had huge solo career

David Lomax Geri really didn’t have a huge solo career in regards to music. She did/does have the second best though of the girls.

I think she was genuinely burned out at this point and really couldn't see a different way than leaving. she talked about being depressed and having an eating disorder. She also said she didn't feel like she matters in the group anymore. I think that kinda made her sort of rebel and do her own thing and she was quite seccesful actually.

@@DavidTyler She didn't have a huge solo career hahah

@@nitzanshimron8747 It's so strange to think that she couldn't see how important to the group she was.

💖💖💖💖 your English is very good 😊 and you are right, releasing DVD would be awesome 🤗💖🦄

She wanted Mel C to throw shade for views but Mel C didn't fall into the trap. Mel B is curretly throwing shade at Victoria and the thing is the hot topic now

SailorSpears mel c never would either. Mel c isn’t like that.

I wouldn’t say they died cuz to this day they are still the most successful girl group and they sale out every time they go on tour.

She getting older. Your voice changes as you get older and just carriers herself in a more mature and sophisticated manner. Plus she has sounded this way for years now.

She’s rich and has been living in London for like 2 decades now... of course her accent is different now. All of them sound more posh now lol especially victoria and geri