@@vdiddystudios8043 no I'm seriously not white people really act like they don't got a privilege in the world the shit is hilarious the fact Mel Nvr played football not even at a collegiate level no black man would have been able to do that pre 1980
As a Texans fan you cannot blame David Carr for what happened. We were a fresh franchise with an atrocious OL. If he goes anywhere else he probably wins quite alot.
Mel Kiper once said “The Texans took him 1st overall, then forgot about him” referencing how they completely neglected the O line protecting him. Facts
@@eduardopena5893well that's just not how things work buddy. This whole athlete should be able to pick where they go isn't it. If you're a really good player you're going to go to a team that didn't do well last year. That's how the leagues try to balance themselves out.
@@matthewrock4725 I guess you aren't familiar with John Elway who REFUSED to play for Baltimore and Bo Jackson who REFUSED to play for Tampa Bay. That's how Elway wound up in Denver and Bo wound up with the Raiders.
No there are some players who transcend location and maybe not plated well but mr care was no good ever he was never gonna be successful in the nfl just like Bradie Quinn Brett Farve and Tom Brady oops
Miner was actually not a horrible plater and if he was a 2nd tier guy that would have been a back up sitting behind a successful starter who could have taught him he could have been a 15 yr player
Before Mel Kiper, there was no such thing as "A draft expert". Now every network has 2 dozen of them. He actually created his own business and own niche. That's the American Dream.
Yea for real there really isn’t even a way to be a draft expert lol if you really think about it it’s all a gimmick. College stars don’t pan out all the time.
Yup! Thats 100% correct. The draft wasn't even that big of a deal before he started talking about it. Now the draft is this huge attraction, and Mel like him or not, was a part of that growth.
Doesn't matter 95% of scouts and teams have it wrong. Just look at Tom Brady picking Tampa Bay. Came out and picked the Bucs and everyone said they couldn't win the superbowl. Scout versus someone that played against the Bucs. Simply put unless you put pads on no one can look at film and have idea what the player can do.
@@brianfoley7342 Really ain't serious when they said "Brady can't win without Bill Belichick"! Then all of ESPN anyalists where saying Brady might not make superbowl. Where did you get the Bucs didn't look shaky at 3-2 to start out the season?
@@Theckonestrohyou said “Cane out and picked the Bucs and everyone said they couldn’t win the superbowl”. You did not say after they started a shaky 3-2 everyone said they couldn’t win the superbowl. When he “came out and picked the Bucs”, TB became one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl. If you would like my take on after they were 3-2, next time be more specific in your post.
I was gonma sat, it is pretty inspiring to hear about this college kid still living at home with no football experience who became one of the biggest names in sports just off of hustle alone.
@@don-lucpicard9411 I mean you may be right, but I cant understand hating him or anything. He's not really hurting anyone, and drafting players is basically a game of chance for even the GMs and coaches. Lile this video calls Mel out for praising Jamarcus Russle, but he went 1st overall so clearly other people thought he was great too. All any analyst does is state their opinion and guess.
I gotta respect the hustle. He’s wrong 90% of the time and still everyone asks him every year what he thinks and gets a nice fat salary. Dudes a genius 🤣
Jewish mothers *WORSHIP* their sons. That's how, despite centuries of debate among theologians, you *KNOW* that Jesus was Jewish; his mother thought he was God and he, thought she, was a virgin.
@@NeverTalkToCops1 Dude, that's legitimately the funniest thing I've ever heard! 😱😭☠️ Just more proof that atheists are always the most clever people in the room. Pro Tip for anyone paying attention; Should your massive inferiority complex that's been boiling in a stew of covetous narcissism, *constantly* spill over with the need to flaunt your superficial, pseudo-intellectualism, so as to achieve the approval and attention you thought you were due but went to others far less deserving - Simply cease every opportunity, however tenuous, to shoehorn in some kind of joke or idiomatic expression that lets everyone know you do not believe in God, religion, an afterlife, *what-fkn-EVER* and that you maintain dismissive contempt for any room temperature I.Q. knuckle dragger who does. Cuz ebrybuddy knowze that the smartest people who ever lived, like Tesla, Einstein, Newton, Dostoevsky, Plato, Aristotle, Solzhenitsyn, Da Vinci, Abdessellam Jelloul, Christopher Hirata, Emmanuel Swedenborg, Shakespeare, Carl Gauss, James Maxwell *NONE* of them were theists! Oh... Uh... Wait a minute... Well, nevermind, it doesn't matter!!! Everyone on Facebook and is a good Democrat *KNOWS* that only dummies believe in God and atheists are the way they are because they're just too damned smart to believe in a man in the clouds!!! 😤👎
The issue with Kiper is that he is always 100% certain with every take he has. If he just said he didn't like a player, people wouldn't care. But he always says that a guy he doesn't like is without a doubt a bust and that the team is stupid for picking them, and he still has that attitude no matter how many times it has bit him in the ass
any of us could go up there in a $2000 suit and puke out some dull opinions. Unfortunately that sort of personality and sharp opinions get him his seat at the table. But i agree. Its annoying and i just stopped watching ALL draft coverage altogether. It is really is a massive waste in time. Imagine trying to guess the winners of an auction weeks in advanced based on the best value of product and who was buying. Its just stupid. I just check my phone at the end of day two and see what we get to look forward too.
Watching this waiting for mels horrible picks and then having to double check if I clicked the right video because it started feeling like an autobiography of Mel kiper 😂😂
How can you shit on him for having all these guys rated highly, when NFL teams took these guys just as highly as he had them lmao? It’s the NFL Draft, you’re inevitably wrong extremely often.
My biggest takeaway from this is the most impressive thing about Mel Kiper is he saw the growing popularity of the draft in the late 70s and was probably one of the first to brand themselves as a 'draft pundit'
To be fair Bruce Irvin in the first round was a reach. If he was basing it off of that then fair. Just having Bobby Wagner and Russell Wilson as the next two picks more than makes up for it
They knew they had a once inna decade type team. And they had the most dominant defense in the NFL history. They had room to pick up whoever they wanted to fill in those small gaps of talent. People can hate but still as being a giants fan, that seahawks team was wild
@@tylernugent3617 if Russell Wilson pulled off the back to back SBs, i think he would be knocking on the door of the Hall. Then that draft would have pulled off Irvin Wagner and Russ. Look through best drafts ever by every team and I’ll take the Seahawks 2012. Again, one yard away from grabbing 2 HoF’s on both sides of the ball, with a 1st round fringe immediate starting LB to boot.
Pretty much anyone on that chair is gonna be a hack. Nobody can tell you when young players are gonna be great nfl players. We’ve seen the proof year after year. Bill in mew England is supposed to bc a football genius. How many great picks has he made over the last ten years? It’s not an easy thing to do.
@@jebadiahfyefye8994 Difference is Mel goes out of his way to double and triple down his picks. Anyone who goes above and beyond to consistently make terrible draft decisions should be singled out from the other people that make mistakes.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 Bill Tobin, he was the man responsible for the drafting of Harrison and Faulk in Indy and currently overseeing the Bengals rebuild starting with Joe Burrows. And unlike Kipper, he actually played at professional level as a running back in the 1960s. Can we please stop celebrating Mel's mediocrity?
@@DanTheMailman330 If only enough people gotten the sense but it seems they bought into the hype from what they learned from 1994. I wonder how many of them are even aware that Tobin drafted Faulk that same draft class.
I think a lot of these "busts" are guys who were put in bad situations. David Carr comes to mind. He was forced to start right away and had no help. At that point he becomes Footsteps Falco from the Replacements. He definitely missed on some like JaMarcus, but every one has misses. I enjoyed his banter with McShay.
The players grade is more important than picking the exact spot someone goes at. It only takes 1 Raiders left field pick to change the way the rest of the 1st round goes.
Exactly. The whole "getting 20 picks wrong in a row" doesn't mean shit. "Fucking up" is saying someone will be trash and they become a star, or vise versa. And even then, even the best GMs and talent evaluators let star players fall to the 4th and 5th rounds (meaning literally EVERY team "missed" on that player). It's basically an educated guess. All you can do is educate yourself by studying the player on and off the field, and then you hope they develop into what their potential is.
@@MrCveedub When you can't read a defense and get rid of the ball you are going to get sacked. Not knowing when to step up into the pocket or take it outside the box is a problem. Carr did not have good football awareness.
This dude is a PERFECT example of the fact that being loud, and having an opinion, doesn't mean you're right. You can somehow build a career for yourself on tv by being loud, and having an opinion, but history will eventually prove whether you are just throwing darts at a board like everyone else, or whether you actually know what you are talking about. This video shows that I could do as good a job as this dude does at analyzing college players.
@@christianbraun8290well you scout for years . How much time and reports do you need ? Most of the time it’s mental health for players or not a good fit with the management
WAIT! WHAT!? I DISAGREE WITH DAT BIG TIME. IF THERE IS A BUST HERE, IT'S NOT YOURS MADAM, IT YOU AND YOUR RU-vid SPORTS. I'M! MEL! KIPER! YOU'RE THE BUST!
Well said. I would also add if one is going to rate the draft experts.such as what Mikerophone attempts to do in this video one does not need to use useless metrics such as whether Mel's picks hit exactly in the order of the draft (that type of metric would be categorically nonsensical). A better metric might be whether Mel was in the ballpark of getting the draft order right. For example, if Mel called a player to be picked #10 overall, was Mel at least within +-5 of the player's actual drafting order. Besides this metric (which I just made up), perhaps there are a ton of other more sensible metrics.
@@broganchapman3731 how am I a hater, I was defending Mel Kiper by pointing out that the draft is a crap shoot. Teams make mistakes on players they like too. But enjoy your day buddy.
Wait. If Favre was drafted further down than McGuire, but Kiper had them ranked evenly... then he was more accurate than NFL GMs. How is that him getting it wrong?
@@lasenyo7705 I think that’s a key thing to remember. NFL GM’s that do this for a living constantly make mistakes. Look at how many first round QB’s drafted in the last 10 years are still on their original teams, or even in the league. Kiper does no worse than them really.
Truthfully, mock drafts and predicting how good a player will be at the next level are totally different. I think the insiders are good with which teams like which players but you gotta determine separately if those players are going to be any good. I usually focus on measurables and character, specifically trying to determine a guy’s work ethic/motor(preparation goes into this) combined with talent/athleticism.
Eli Manning never refused to play for Ernie Accorsi, he was the GM for the NY Giants when Eli was drafted by the San Diego Chargers, which is the team he refused to play for. It's ironic that Mike is doing a video about Mel Kiper's mistakes and he makes a huge one like that.
To be fair, almost every analyst was very high on JaMarcus Russell. If you look back on draft previews, mostly everyone was saying the Raiders should draft him. But it was based on his potential rather than skill. If Russell has better Work Ethic, he might have succeeded but he didn't.
If Russell was taken by a more stable franchise, he might have turned his ability into talent. The Raiders would have probably ruined Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers.
He has a point though, it's utter BS for the NFL to go after him when there are hundreds of NFL videos on YT they're perfectly fine with letting stay up.
Honestly Kiper is a genius. He invented mock drafts and has made tons of money out of it, as well as making it a thing for almost every so called analyst. I feel like it doesn’t even matter whether he’s right or wrong. Most of the analysts get the picks wrong.
No doubt. All the "experts" are wrong more times than not. And surprisingly alot of fans are usually right. The fans that dont just mindlessly regurgitate what the "experts" say anyways
I can remember listening to Joel Buchsbaum on the radio in the 80's talking about the NFL, which he focused a lot on upcoming draft prospects. He always had a lot of information on prospects, even marginal ones, and also had strong opinions on their abilities. I bet Mel Kiper was aware of him and may have copied a lot of techniques that Buchsbaum used to gather information about NFL prospects, and also may have copied Buchsbaum's gimmick in how he expressed himself in an outspoken manner. However, good for Kiper that he made a lot of money at it and a name for himself, while Buchsbaum died a forgotten man.
If analyzing a player's pro potential was easy there would never be busts. It's hard, Kiper may be wrong more than average, I really don't know but it's a hard profession.
Before Kiper teams basically threw darts at a board or drew names out of a hat when they drafted. (Except for the Cowboys, they used a computer.) By today's standards Kiper might even deserve a spot in the Hall Of Fame for literally changing the way teams draft forever.
Da'Quan Bowers, my absolute favorite moment from draft history. We sat and ripped Mel apart for years because of his behavior related to him in 2011. He went on and on about how he can't believe he's not drafted, raving about how he's the best available player in the draft. The dude is coaching now and only played for four years in the NFL after that draft and Mel was so far off the mark it was a running joke for us every year.
I remember Mel saying that Bowers, NOT Cam Newton was gonna go first overall. And that Newton could even fall to the second round. It’s like what the hell are you smoking and how much for it?
That might be true (not to mention really awesome), but it’s not nearly as sensational as the unfortunate events that went down while he was in the throes of addiction, so of course it’ll be reported w/ about 10% of the fervor as all his missteps were. Sad 😞
David Carr was the most hit quarterback multiple years. He was incredibly talented. I was a Texans fans, I was incredibly disappointed in how the oline and defense failed Carr and Foster year over year.
Myself, and a small circle of friends were INTENSELY into the game of football (college and pro) from the time we were about 12 years old. This was about 1981. We watched every game possible in college (not many on TV in the early '80's) and every pro game possible. We would constantly quiz each other on stats, positions, and whether or not that position would translate into an NFL career. Fast forward to the early 90's when we were around 22 years old, and we knew every stat on every player both college and pro. We all kept thick notebooks with us. Wasted youth? Maybe, LOL My point is this: We would do our own "draft analysis" every year and then look back on who hit, and who did not. Guess what?? We did just as well as Kiper on hits/misses in the first two rounds. (Both of us around the 44% mark). But...... we hit on around the 49% mark on rounds 3 through 6 where Mel dropped into the mid 30% range. SO...... for a bunch of kids drinking beer and smoking pot, we did better than Mel. Yet he gets paid handsomely. Kudos to Mel for getting paid, but just sayin'.......... LOL
If you’re pretending that the NFL Draft comes down to a binary hit-or-miss - like the guy making this video is - then you don’t get it. And I can guarantee you that you’re giving yourself the benefit of what counts as a hit or miss, too.
Ole Jeff George.... I went to elementary school in Indianapolis and Jeff's Mother was our Secretary at the Pleasant Run Elementary. After he was drafted to the Colts I remember Jeff coming to the school and popping into our class room to say hey.. Kinda a cool moment for a kid as a Colts fan.
Which is exactly why "draft experts" like Mel Kiper shouldn't exist at all. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about and neither does anyone else. They watch a few plays of a guy on game tape and proclaim themselves as experts. I should have taken up this fraud of a career when I had the chance. Mel Kiper doesn't know anything more than the average NFL fan looking at draft picks.
@@logicaldude3611 expert doesn’t necessarily mean perfect. Just means he’s the top official in his field. Plus we all like to hear talking heads. If we didn’t, these networks would not exist.
One of the guys on the Pat McAfee show does an incredible Kiper impression too. Watch Pat McAfee reacts to the chicago bears trade up for Justin Fields
I give the guy all the credit in the world!! He took his blank slate, an turned himself into an industry. He never even had to be successful. The ultimate weatherman of sports analysis, his persona created a charicature of himself that he has been able to sell to the public for over 4 decades! The ultimate little engine that not only COULD, but actually DID. Good for You, Mel 🤙🏻
I mean isn't that kind of the nature of sports culture in general? The draft just tends to be exceptionally unpredictable and he carved his own niche there.
I think it’s a stretch to call him trash, he certainly over hypes certain prospects and buys into narratives, which makes him more of an entertainer. But he’s also the reason the draft is relevant and popular so we owe him some respect.
@@samuelgingras6291 did you watch the video? At 2:11 he mentions how just recently he had 20 consecutive incorrect picks. I understand that teams are different from league to league but this guy has the probability of a coin flip to be right about a player or even be correct about a team’s draft choice. He’s awful plain and simple.
@@2Littoral I did watch the video, but more importantly have you ever watched any drafts? Crazy stuff happens before the draft and during the draft that can shift an entire set of rankings. Laremy Tunsil and the weed controversy, Aaron Rodgers falling from a projected top 5 to bottom first rounder, Owusu-Koromoah this year, Fields...it’s an inexact science and again read my f ing comment, I clearly say that he’s an entertainer more than an analyst.
Also, JaMarcus Russell could've definitely been amazing in the NFL. He had a literal cannon for an arm. His problem wasn't lack of talent it was lack of discipline and drive. Once he got drafted he was lost. Its like that was his only goal and once achieved he lost his desire.
He didn't have a literal cannon for an arm. He wasn't a cyborg or from the future. But he would not have been good anywhere else. He was lazy and didn't put in the work at all. Did you ever hear of when he lied about studying plays from a blank DVD?
@@michaelkeller5927 yea, I believe that would fall under lack of discipline and drive. Also, he had a cannon. That was one of his biggest positives. Look up any scouting report on him.
Word did you hear about how the raiders thought he wasn’t watching film so they gave him a dvd to watch and he came back and said yeah I watched it and yeah coach I learned all the plays. There was no dvd the coaches gave him a empty box. That’s how much discipline Russell had.
I take Kiper with a grain of salt although I have enjoyed his insights for more than 25 years now. After seeing this and learning that he started the whole game, he gets my respect.
His career is rating players and providing his take on which players should be taken. The problem with this come draft day is you have 32 GMs that if one picks wildly, then the entire draft day can go offline than what was expected. I really think that Mcshay has been better in his career in rating players, but I think the two do a pretty good job considering. You can't predict that Jamarcus will eat himself out of the league in 2 years, or that Ryan Leaf is mentally unstable.
As you say, there is always a bad GM or 2 that blows up all of the mock drafts by "the experts". Plus, there are the trades that no one was expecting that also completely change the mock drafts. Watching the draft is great. I love watching the players and their family's dreams come true in real time. But, don't pay much attention to mock drafts which are mostly just gossip.
The picture of Carr getting sacked is a perfect reason why he didn't last. Look at his lineman, he is sitting on the ground. While the Defensive player looks like a stud. You could say he could have dodged the players' attempt to tackle him, but it's happening 1 out of 3 plays. They also let up the most sacks or was 2nd for most sacks when Carr was the quarterback.
Mel actually is great at his job. He has a terrific memory and does a great job breaking down players quickly. I remember one year when Chris Berman was host an unknown FBS player was drafted on second day and he said at this point we simply turn and ask Mel who is this guy and Kiper had a breakdown of guy. I thought the late Joel Bushsbaum who did Pro Football weekly;s old Draft Preview was a better analyst and had a better preview but he was terrible on TV and no one touched Mel ;s ability on TV. He has always done a great jiob as TV analyst. Of course he gets thiunks wrong because NFL consensus which is what he shares is often wrong.
"ability onTV" maybe he should go to the WWE then instead of being wrong 80% of the time and smearing the names of good athletes on national TV. Wack ass comment from a clueless fanboy.
In Kiper's defense on JaMarcus Russel, he wasn't wrong about the skills. Russel had the skills to be one of the all time greats. It was his character and psychology that led him into becoming the biggest bust in NFL history. People forget how much praise this guy had coming out of college. Most "experts" thought he's be a generational talent. What they didn't count on was him becoming lazy and his mental health declining, due to several personal tragedies.
That's debatable. There are a lot of skills that go into being a pro level starting QB that has a good career. It isn't just arm strength. I don't believe JaMarcus' skillset translated to the NFL as well as many people thought it would. I don't think he was accurate enough to be a high level NFL qb. And mentally and work ethic wise he definitely wasn't there.
@@jesseaustin4089Jamarcus made plenty of pro throws within pro concepts at LSU and had good college stats. He got fat, addicted to lean, and stop caring once he got paid
In all fairness to Mel, JaMarcus Russell quit as soon as he got his first paycheck, and it’s usually pretty hard to predict that. I say “usually” because all of LaVar Arrington’s teammates KNEW once he got signed to his record contract football wouldn’t matter nearly as much to him. Edit: I meant Albert Haynesworth. My bad, Mr Arrington.
@@dudedurham no idea bud. Butt Arrington was pretty good but kind of fizzled out. But at least he did not literally lay on the ground on MNF during a play. Or refuse to take the fitness tests. Wow Arrington was a lazy player. Then again, he’s got a ton of money. I wish l could get paid that much for not working 😒
You have to guess the order, which is one thing, and talent, which is another. QB isn't the only position in the NFL, so it'd be nice to see how he evaluated other positions. Also, when it does come to QBs, talents can go to die for a shitty franchise, so that isn't Mel's fault either. I did enjoy the video, so thank you.
To be fair, David Carr would of been great on literally any other team. The Texans basically “Andrew luck’d” him. Didn’t invest in an OL and he was beat to hell.
It still drives me insane that Indy got a great O line better defense and a good running game after Luck retired. If they could've done any of that for Luck who knows how far he could've gone
Its 2023 and I agree with this assesment. In fact, its how I feel about ALL mock draft and predictions. In defense of Kiper and company, NFL coaches and GMs regularly miss on QBs. Every team passed on Russell Wilson. Its difficult to predict which players will elevate their games to the pro level. Aside from the rare elite talent, it seems picking QBs is as much luck as it is talent/resume.
Jeff George could throw the most beautiful deep ball I've ever seen. The guy had a howitzer for an arm. Too bad he was a tad selfish and lacked the work ethic required to cash in on his talent. Just look up his 1999 playoff game vs Dallas... Those deep bombs to Randy Moss were a thing of beauty.
I like ole kiper, sounds like a success story to me. It would be next to impossible to predict who all these teams are going to take with their picks. I typically don't argue too much with his big board based off of talent
Mel has had some good calls too. Hes basically like every single NFL scout ever, but he figured out how to talk his way to the top. Some of his calls were only for attention. He talks about his Ls as quick as he talks about his good calls. That's someone who is cognizant of what they are doing.
Never been right? Tell that to Tom Brady. Back in the day, Mel Kiper thought TB12 was one of the top 10 quarterbacks in that 2000 draft. He saw talent and potential while virtually all the NFL front offices saw only question marks. Brady is now widely seen as the greatest draft steal in the history of the NFL and the Greatest Of All Time.
@@terminator23destroyer15 What are you talking about? He said he has the "highest ceiling" in his class. Had him going 12 overall. Most of his Mahomes stuff was glowing. Only bad things were he thought he turn the ball over, and his numbers in college might have been a bit high bc of the TT spread offense.
@@terminator23destroyer15 www.news-herald.com/sports/espn-analyst-mel-kiper-says-patrick-mahomes-has-highest-ceiling/article_601bbddb-dba0-53da-aca6-7338517320e3.html Sure, this article that pre supposed that draft is just made up.
Exactly. You don't need talent, intelligence or frankly, even hard work to make it in life. You need persistence. And by that, I mean annoy the hell out of people until they give in and finally accept you.
I'm not a big draft day fan, but must admit, Mel Kiper really made it a big event, the sports channels will always give him the shine, he gave them a lot to talk about
@@getreal2592 These days you don't even need to do THAT for very long, just throw one hissyfit and everybody's bowing and kowtowing to you, especially if you're under 30.
Actually you were wrong on accorsi having two QBs that didn’t want to play for him. Elway didn’t want to play for him. Eli however didn’t want to play for San Diego but wanted to play for accorsis Giants
Elway didn’t want to play for Frank Kush, the Colts head coach. Elway stated in ESPN’s 30 for 30 ‘Elway to Marino’ that the first person he called for advice when he became Denver’s GM was Ernie Accorsi. I don’t think Elway had an issue with Accorsi at all. It was the Colts organization. Irsay was drunk on live tv ranting he wasn’t moving the team, fired the GM on the spur of the moment and just promoted Accorsi into the position with no warning for Accorsi. The team was a train wreck because of ownership and Kush was not a QB friendly coach. Elway’s dad had advised him to not play for Kush. Plus he had baseball, but I doubt that was more than leverage but Steinbrenner was convinced he was going to have Elway in MLB.
@@canesrule96 You obviously don’t understand his job. He’s an analyst that gives his opinion on players. No different than any other analyst on ESPN. Just because he’s wrong doesn’t mean he sucks. Every NFL coach, scout, and GM is wrong about players all the damn time
Every GM had a lot of mistakes especially with QBs :) I saw a video and someone said that 42 percent of QBs from round 1 will fail statistically.The problem with mock drafts is that there is a single trade or unexpected decision and then the domino falls.
Only 42%? Seems like more than that end up as a bust, especially in recent years. Shit just look at how many QB's the Browns picked in first rounds in the past couple decades before they picked Mayfield.
I was in college during the early-mid eighties and I would have loved to have an NFL draft show on ESPN because back then you had to just wait for the radio to announce draft picks for the home team. Sometimes the radio would cover the draft to reveal the first round pick, but you'd need to check the paper the next day to see how the draft when during all the rounds. I remember some years back I had a customer service job, which was not getting a lot of calls, so that year I became an ameture draftnick and really had the time to dig into all of the various teams needs. I remember that year the Broncos drafted a pick that I was really underwhelmed by who was Willie Middlebrooks. Middlebrooks appeal was he was an unusually tall cornerback and he was expected to excel at bumping receivers at the line and then being able to intercept passes. Middlebrooks was often injured and only started one out of the five year span he played in. A five year career is not exactly a disappointing career for some, since many players often only play one or two years, but given his draft position, more was expected of him.
Ok... Most people think every 1st round draft pick will be great, hince why they're picked 1st! Yet half of them are busts brother. Can't be right when you evaluate 300 players a year transitioning from college to the pros. (Also David Carr was a great QB but went to die in Houston)
That's a problem of the organization, not the talent. A poor organization can and does squander talent just as easily as a shit for brains prospect. Carson Palmer was drafted first. Ben Rothlisberger was drafted later by the Steelers and he is going to the Hall of Fame. Now if the Draft Gurus factored in the track record of the franchises that draft the players, that would be worth watching. A plus prospect with a D minus franchise rating for an overall C combined rating.
That’s why most 2nd through 10 picks are the best players 1st overall picks have to much pressure to succeed often ending up with the worst team around them
I know he’s wrong all the time but I respect his drive to get to where he is. Impressive how far he got on his passion alone. It doesn’t really bug me that he doesn’t have any experience because of how passionate it seems like he was about football
@@samuelgould4274 it absolutely is true. Not hard when everything he does is on tape. He's right far more then he is wrong on the top guys. People just show his bad opinions. This isn't a debate. I don't even like him but he has been right more then wrong
ESPN has never cared about it’s analysts being right. Kiper’s picks are always controversial. Controversy drives engagement. That’s what they want and that’s why Kiper has a job.
Bo Jackson was both a big draft bust and big draft steal. A bust for Tampa who poisoned their relationship with him to where he refused to sign him. A steal for the Raiders who picked him in the 7th round the next year.
He worked hard to succeed at something he had a passion for and became a household name most NFL fans recognize plus married the right girl who believed in and supported his dream. Kudos to him. Of course, there were always going to be a few regrettable forecasts evaluating college football talent and how those forecasts would turn out. Would like to see the video you do when you cover how he nailed predictions most people weren't anticipating. There has to be a few of those.
The one that sticks out to me was when he said about Tim Tebow “I don't think he can be a fulltime quarterback. I don't think he can be the quarterback of the future for you.” He was dead on there
Yeah a few compared to the many, many, many he's gotten wrong a broken clock is right twice a day, the sun even shines on a dog's ass, the bottom of the trash can gets a steak every once in awhile any of the metaphors you wanna use
the guy is a genius. Sure he's not always right but what analyst is ? This guy created scouting for fans. We should all be thanking him. He literally brought scouting to our living room.
I love Trubisky in buffalo currently, I have no doubt he’ll be a starter next year and will do great if he has a coach that is actually competent. It’s crazy that Trubisky brought nagy’s offense to the playoffs TWICE.
I think Trubisky could still be a viable starter for the team with the proper supporting cast around him. I don't see him as being the next starter in Buffalo though. I can see him getting traded or released and starting in Pittsburgh as this is more than likely Big Bens last season. He would make an excellent bridge QB to give a rookie time to learn and develop under a new system
@@samuelneuin1988 yes, I should have specified not a starter in buffalo, more I applaud that he went to Buffalo for the “reset” like Beane said as opposed to taking a starting job elsewhere (where he would have likely not had a good supporting offense Around him)
@@louiemanzella4445 Not only can I see him starting in Pittsburgh, I can also see Denver as a potential suitor for him. He would be a decent mentor for Drew Lock
You gotta look at it this way. 90% of the players it's a crap shoot how they will end up. Teams bust on high pics all the time and the usual have just one pick, Mel has to predict the talent of every player. It's so hard to mock draft because different teams have different reasons to pick who they pick.
exactly, like any expert or front office guy predicted the GOAT, he was picked at 199... of course youre going to be more wrong than right, all the NFL teams picked these busts as well, not just Kiper
The run of incorrect picks in prior years isn’t exactly fair because until recently, he didn’t project trades, even when they were obvious. Once you get 1 pick wrong, it could throw off the next bunch of picks. I couldn’t care less but I just thought that should be said.
I don’t take anyone’s picks seriously, it’s a guessing game what each team will do, but Kipper made the draft what it is ! He’s earned the respect for his hustle !!
@@TravelAdventureswithEricB Now don't get me wrong....the guy does his research. But in the end, none of us know where these guys are going to be drafted(except the few obvious exceptions), or what they're going to do once they get to the NFL.
He’s gets paid because he’s an entertainer who gives his educated opinion. He gets paid based on the revenue he brings to espn, not on how many hit or misses he has
In Mel Kipers defense it’s next to impossible to predict what a college quarterback is going to do in the NFL because there are so many factors involved: What team is he going to, will he get injured, are the coaches any good, etc.
No need to defend him. People know this, it's for entertainment. It's the fact how confident he is at times that pisses me off. Even though the track record is there.
