Melatonin wants to be a sleepy Rhythm Heaven 

wubadubadubis that true?

@@jessicaexe-gc1gf yes.

Woah! You go big guy!

@@jessicaexe-gc1gfis that a rosemi reference

@@UT4iTE 💀

same here, seems to be the fan favorite as past in the melatonin ost has way more views than the others

Same, I love it so much it's just so satisfying

reminds me of "Understanding Willow" from The Owl House

@@F3llNouzy exactly what i thought!

@@iyapalot55 HAHAHAHA YES

that applies to rhythm games in general

As somebody who plays rythm games, yeh they do feel like that sometimes

I'm looking at this what sound cues am I even looking out for Or different mechanics

My main gripe with Melatonin was the sound cues or sometimes feels like lack their of, as i've only played the Rhythm Heaven series before this game and tried going into it with an open mind but the first area was not a great first impression. The call and respond mini game (shopping) was alright, I like that the hard versions are like remixed versions of the original songs, but by the time I got to the "dream about followers" minigame it just hit me hard how this start was unenjoyable and that with my only source of comparison being RH I was shocked that the remix required getting 2 stars in each level which while firstly only reminding me of shitty mobile games, also infuriated me because of how unintuitive the "dream of followers" minigame felt and nearly made me refuse to go further into the game. The first remix wasn't that enjoyable either as it imo sounded like garbage and having to slog through it just made me really feel uninvested in what was to come but to try giving it a good try I kept going and the second area was fun to me in mini games, with better sound cues to me, then the remix was enjoyable and sounded fine. and I've only gotten to the dream about time minigame but that was honestly the most RH feeling minigame so far and I loved it just had janky timing it felt like to get used to was all (in a similar vain to some might have issues with monkey watch first time playing Fever) but seeing this comment and the few replies did make me think about this and I do agree Melatonin feels like a game meant to be watched and listened to rather than actually played. It feels like it has bad sound cues and despite having 'accessibility' options to give people a visual cue on any level I feel like if your rhythm game has to rely on visual cues you failed at making a rhythm game. so for me atleast when compared to RH I haven't been having the most enjoyable time playing Melatonin but I wouldn't make the generalization of Rhythm Games being more fun to watch than play. (cause I assume games like Rock band, and guitar hero count? if so they're fun to play, and some rhythm games like taiko seems fun to play but I never have played)

I love it, got it a few days ago and am trying for 3 stars on all the levels. It definitely takes some work though, the practice mode is very helpful if you're willing to run through it a few times rather than just once. I think I did practice mode 3-4 times on most levels, to make sure I was comfortable with the timing on all the cues.

SAMEE

Dude same.

if it was the entire game it would be better /hj

@@m4rcyonstation93 how?

@@kyleag86 idk the rest of the games are kinda reliant on visual cues for my taste

Melatonin gummies will defo flick the switch on you lol

woke up feeling great, but I got the weirdest, most vivid dreams it felt like another life another dimension lol

I just took a melatonin I’m so high I’m seeing aliens and shit I LOVE MELATONIN 💜💜💜

@@WildWildWeasel it's scientifically proven they don't 😐

@@solarprogeny6736 they do on me though, I sleep like a log whenever I take it and get proper sleep instead of the annoying light sleep I’ve been having for awhile

Same here! I thought about that letter a blind kid had sent to Nintendo thanking them for making a game he was able to play and complete all on his own, and it’s because Rhythm Heaven has clear audio cues as well as fun visual ones.

@@miyoutakisawa5976 that's so adorable 🥺

The tutorial of rhythm heaven ds literally tells you not to rely on visual cues too much

I personally think, it is like that just to have something different, is not a big issue, but yeah

I feel like a few of the biggest offenders (that I've gotten up to so far) is the money, work and rocket ones. Audio cues in money and work are too similar for me to differentiate and they became more of a memory game. The rocket one on the other hand I think is more the music not helping with the cues. I remember getting very frustrated trying to keep time in my head because the music wasn't helping. For my first rhythm game, I loved it 7/10

yesss, i honestly understand how do you even play gor example the polaroid and work levels without visuals

THERES A METRONOME IN THE SETTINGS?

@@xylophone_8888The Polaroid one is probably one of the better ones to do without visuals. It has a click for each different size of Polaroid and they’re pretty easy to tell apart. The first level, though? Yikes. Some of these just look like predicting patterns, which… Is not how it’s supposed to go.

Okay, good I'm not the only one who find that annoying and untrue to the Rhythm Heaven series lol I absolutely love the aesthetic of the game and the genre, but imo, these games should be something a blind person can play with visual cues built into the music. The polaroid one is probably one of the best ones with the differing sounds based on how long you're supposed to hold the beat

Yeah I have kind of mixed feelings about the audio and visual cues. I don't really have a preference for one over the other in my rhythm games, and in isolation I think the levels are okay, but the way the levels are organized makes for some really confusing transitions in the remixes (chapter 4 is the worst in this regard i think). I think I personally like more subtle audio cues in rhythm games (I really don't like the new audio cues they added to 4-3N and 3-1N in Rhythm Doctor because I find it has the reverse problem of sticking out and being kind of jarring against the music). Melatonin does kind of toe the line on being too subtle though, especially in some of the directional stages.

i didn't see any strictly visual cues? except if you actually have to aim in the shoot-the-robots one?

@@solarprogeny6736 could be referring to the banking minigame? The audio cues in that one are impossible to distinguish without headphones (and are still a bit difficult to hear over the music).

The fucking hypnosis level, I’m stuck because I can’t fucking understand the cues at all

@@rammrott483 The loud beep indicates that you need to hit the button again one beat after it plays. It always happens on the half beat, so if you hear it, that means that you're going to have to hit it twice on the next swing.

@@MapleLoverX57 This game Is the best example of a rhythm haven inspired game. My favorite definitely has to be the Hammer minigame

Why thought

@@MapleLoverX57 Ah yeah the Bits and Bops demo was awesome!

I agree tbh, though I wish I liked this game more 😭

Saaaame, this feels too chill. I really wish they’d make a new Rhythm heaven for the switch. I already have the DS and Wii one…

same omfg

The color palette is definitely a bit same-y but i think it doesn't bother me because the game is pretty short so it doesn't have long enough to overstay its welcome. If the game were like 100 minigames long id definitely get really tired of it

I gotta say, the whole “so relatable millennial” thing is why the Polaroid burning one is my favorite. It’s gloomier and actually has character implications and action, as compared to the rest.

I mean, you say fellow millennials but these are things that... most people do. Really only the phone hopping one could hit into that but even then you'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't use any social media in our current era.

Isn't the theme about dreams? Wouldn't it make sense for the modern themes to apply anyway?

@@Jey6an Yeah Past was the first minigame i saw and i loved the mood and the theme but the rest don’t really click

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS RHYTHM DOCTOR OMG

The amount of memories burnt would probably kill a person

Out of sight out of mind

many shenanigans

We all… know-

@@gordier6787 i didnt, you lied to me.

@@samuelfernandesoliveira Well you do now so you’re lying too

@@gordier6787 i meant it in a past form, my baby 3 year old brother doesnt know about that, so you are still lying

@@samuelfernandesoliveira Well your brother doesn’t apply, The “we”, in “we all know” refers to those of us who have been in the presence of this knowledge, and seen the above comment after that. Your brother has not, and has not. Something something- lying

They definitely don't feel quite as clear as Rhythm Heaven's but you could definitely perfect these games with nothing but audio cues I believe (except that coin one, maybe it's cuz I'm not wearing headphones but there's seemingly nothing to indicate the difference between coins on the left and coins on the right), the visual aspect definitely helps a lot though which is where this game differs from rhyhthm heaven. A lot of the games in RH have visuals that actually serve to distract more than help, which makes the player rely a lot more on the audio cues and as such the audio cues need to be really clear so as to not seem unfair.

The coin one, the stress one, and the final space shooting one i dont think can be done completely blind (basically the multi button games). The single button games are pretty doable with audio cues, although some of them are way more subtle than others. Like work actually has very good audio cues, but the subtlety and the way it plays into the song is what makes it great imo

@kantalot3797 the coin one does indeed have panned audio cues to determine left from right

This game is on switch???

@@inumizuno yeah!

@@inumizuno switch and PC :) and only $15 which isn't bad

@@taylorbritt499 how many games/minigames are in it?

@@inumizunothere's 20 levels in it, or 25 if you include the mixed levels

Make good use of practice mode... On particularly difficult levels I probably went through practice mode 5 or 6 times. Also try tapping your foot to the beat, that helped me keep time for most of the game. The megamix at the end is very fun if you're willing to put in a little work to get through the rest of the game!

I think someone else mentioned you can turn on a metronome in the settings? idk I haven't played this game

@@fakeemail6815 yeah one of the great things about the game is they have a good amount of accessibility settings! At least compared to other games. They definitely make the game easier and less frustrating, good for people not used to rhythm games or for people that have physical/mental disabilities that would affect playing the game normally.

OMFG💀

hes just like me fr

That's Basil trying to burn away the pictures. (He actually did try to rub it all away with a marker)

omori

@@dumbleking5172 i think that was sunny not basil tho

Perhaps the reason why you need melatonin is because you’re staying up until 5AM

Hopefully you got some sleep

It’s not actually meant to get you to sleep, that’s just the theme of the game, about a guy who falls asleep and dreams of things he’d like to do.

If that’s subtle you need your ears checked

People are still serious even when it comes to games about vibing

Followers is a terrible minigame and the visual cues are actively confusing. I have no idea why this level is like that

@@accelplaysgamesbad6382 the phone game is easy once you know what to look for. Not only is there sound cues, there ARE visual cues too like when you do a high jump the phone you land one with vibrate and the screen with turn blue exactly 1 beat before you land on the 2nd beat. All the games have a 4 beat rhythm to them so it'll be 1. .(you'll be just jumping off one phone to the other) 2(jumped off and in the air). .3(you're starting to come down and the phone you land on will vibrate and screen turns blue). .4 (lands on the phone). .1 (jump off). This will be a bit longer on the hard mode. The 3 phone jump will also vibrate the 3 phones with blue screen 1 beat before you have to jump on them. Then it's a faster movement in the same beat time beat 1 it cues you in then beat 2 you jump twice fast while in beat 3 then on the 4th beat you landed on the 3rd phone before jumping off on beat 1.

Funny enough followers is my favorite I zone out on it and ended up with my first 3 stars but I use the audio assist for every game and visual assist for the ones I have trouble with.

I agree. The followers is terrible. I had to use the metronome for most of the game because I was too focused to actively keep the beat for some of the levels. The followers one you kinda just have to guess 🤷‍♀️

lmao

i think for this game to be amazing the sounds just need to be accurate enough so you can beat this game perfect with eyes closed

I don't get the reference can you tell me what that means though?

​​​​Spoiler for the owl house!!!!! ​@@minor-primus it mean an episode of the owl house where amity's burning willow's memories and luz and amity resthor willow's memories :)

@@jojodias2823 never watched The Owl House before but thanks for pointing it out kinda confused as to why people are talking about the reference but yeah I understand it now.

i swear i was counting "yi er san su wu liu qi" in my head like the damn rd tutorials

@@nohintshere Ah yes 一二三四五六七

Though it would be even funnier if the nurse start to say "Rea Dy Get Set Go"

Yea xD

It's supposed to be 1 beat after you hear the phone vibrate, but the visuals are super disorienting during that segment. It's just not a good minigame idk

@@accelplaysgamesbad6382 thanks for explaining

LMAO