Did Kathi misname Joy at the 1:48:36 mark? and call her Joanne? I'm unfamiliar with her scholarship and while I appreciated what she had to say about the nature of work, i don't think she had the range to speak with (or remember the names of) Charisse and Joy.
That's not abolition you're talking about. What Dr joy James pointed out is historic abolition. Ending constitutional slavery allowed by the 13th amendment and practiced in fact by a racist justice system. That's what our ancestors fought for and what this generation of alleged abolitionists completely ignore.
