As a non-web developer. I agree. I have no idea what is happening, but if I light these scented candles, make sure my view of the moon is precisely offset at 3*, the website will work for 5 seconds before I must reset preperations. That or it finally loaded and I hit refresh at the wrong time.
@@sbwlearning1372 hot take that everyone is afraid of liking but they know this is an issue. Lol. Certain fields, they are good in. Many others, they are nothing but a problem. There are some really smart, logical women out there, though, and they belong in the work place.
@@chingizzhylkybayev8575 Actually he did give her an answer, it's just not the answer she wanted and he helped her fix the problem. First of all she assumed that the website wasn't working instead of understanding that her computer had caused a log jam. He showed her how to clear that log jam, explaining why it happened. Her problem is that she assumed that she had framed a simple question. What she really did was just make a wrong assumption. The simple question would have been, can you access the website because I can't. and his answer would probably been yes.
@@chingizzhylkybayev8575having worked in IT for a number of years, you have no idea how computer illiterate most people are.... Having to explain a keyboard has to be plugged in, in order for it to work, that unplugging a PC to use the hoover whilst working at home will shut your PC down.....or that no, your mouse is not likely to work after you put it in the dishwasher because it was sticky, is not an IT fault..... Yeah..... Over time, you do stop treating people a little like they have a clue, as you come across soooooo many who don't....each and every single day..... In this instance he just explained why the issue had occurred, if she was IT savvy, she'd have known this herself, anyone who knows anything about computers understands you occasionally need to clear caches and things, she didn't, and as such he could have just fixed it, only to find himself back there doing it again a few months down the line... So annoyed as she might feel at this, at least she learnt something, and chances are, bet your last penny, a colleague will have this same.issue, and she will use that knowledge to fix the problem, and show how "IT savvy" she is to her colleagues lol 😂
This skit does not provide an example of the mansplaining thing. It is the getting a child like answer that is the main part of the mansplain concept annoyance.
Lol my cousin is this way of not being able to get the informing part. Unless it's cars and sports, anything you explain is s sloppy spaghetti. He asked me years ago is 100mb home Internet good Internet. I said it's a lie bcuz those speeds exist in big markets(cities) like NYC ,La , Houston. But they all run enough for two Netflix TV's so yeah. 😂 he had to ask again.... Is it good?
The fact this comments section exist is stupid. if a person speaks normally, you don't need an entire comments section to dissect it and agree with it. I took a shit today, Are we going to create a comment section to deliberate if i did it correctly ?
You forgot about Insecure 😂 Whenever they run out of. arguments they pull the insecure card. I don't let my girl dress as a thot, INSECURE 😂 it literally lost it's meaning
You should almost never believe what woman says she wants, she usually doesn't even know it consciously and says the thing that creates cohesion in the group.
As a man, if I ask someone a question like this, I never get some longwinded tirade because other guys don't feel the need to impress me. I'm genuinely sorry for the people in your life if you respond to every question by dumping the contents of your brain onto them.
I got an HR complaint from a female intern that I “mansplained” something to her. It was how to run a basic report so that she could submit it to my VP’s. I explained it to her 3 times and the 4th time i made a pre recorded video and shared it with her. She said that i “mansplained” it to her in the video. I shared it with HR and they had a good laugh out of it.
There is no word I hate more than “mansplaining”. It was supposed to be when a man who knew less than a woman explained things she already knew (like a regular guy explaining surgery to a surgeon). Now, it’s any time a man tries to explain or teach a woman anything. A woman said I was mansplaining something to her once. I asked her what she did and she said marketing or something, and I responded with “ok, so if I was telling you about marketing, then that would be mansplaining. But since I’m talking about psychology, the field I studied for over a decade, hold three degrees in, and am a professor of, I’m not mansplaining, I’m teaching, and if you aren’t smart enough to understand the difference, I feel sorry for you.” There is nothing more satisfying than putting someone in their place.
I get this all the time when my wife asks what's wrong with her truck. And I try to give her the long answer and I get the I don't care as long as it gets fixed.
@@kevinzhang6623 Yes. Truly mature, to regress to the level of a child, because of 1 incident/exchange, with 1 individual. Especially, when they probably treat most everyone like a child, or something about the ”mature” individual’s behaviour etc. warrants treating them like a child. 😅
…it’s somewhat understandable but at the same time… like tf? We are trying to teach you how to resolve the issue in case it happens again and that you can gain more independence instead of wasting time trying to figure it out on your own
@akiriathorsteinson7611 yea, especially if it's a simple problem. If I notice a solution to a problem we have e had at work and it's easy to fix, I'll try to teach others how to fix it when it occurs do that people learn over time...I don't see any problem with that. If it's simple enough to fix thst I can show anyone then it's not to hard to get yourself.
I'm a man who works in IT Support. I generally try to educate the users about their issue instead of just fixing the problem, because next time they'll be able to fix it themselves which will be much quicker. If they can fix it themselves in a few minutes they'll be less downtime for them then if they have to wait for us because we may have a backlog and be busy. I'm trying to decrease downtime for them.
Also work IT 100% agree. A small explanation usually saves you hours of calls in the future because now the clients you support are more knowledgeable about technology.
@@Rievven Those people are usually slacking across the board and are quickly looking for new jobs and make up a tiny percentage of people I actually encounter in my city. Also it’s generally just bad idea to waste the time or piss off the IT department. lol
@@carlospinto5845 I think their comments is meant to show how the conversation would've went if the girl dressed in white's coworker had given her the "simple" answer (the short answer). It is meant to show that the "simple" answer wouldn't have helped, while educating her on the problem would've not only helped her this time, but in all the future times where this might occur
It really depends on the person. I work in a firm with about 200 women and 10 guys, myself included. Rarely do i get any hassle, and i talk to a lot of my coworkers often.. actually the biggest problem i face is male coworkers assuming i am in relations with every girl i have a chuckle with or have lunch with, and then behaving as such in front of them, which is just embarrasing for them and petty.. Just treat women as you expect to be treated. Mansplaining is a thing, when a guy assumes a women knows nothing and arrogantly explains stuff they dont care about or know already.. and yes it gets overused beyond that realm just because of defense mechanisms, or someone having an empty life and needing something to get uppity about, but often if they are asking for help, they are happy to learn a bit how to sort it themselves.. unless its your girlfriend.. then its a different kettle of fish.
Mansplaining is when a man explains something a woman already knows, and won't accept that she knows or in some cases even knows better. Explaining something, as a man to a woman, is not mansplaining. Butthurt idiots just like to commandeer the phrase to sound more entitled to their opinion.
These are typical responses from IT. They need to know what buttons you pushed, what signals you got, what sites you were on. I've been mansplained to, and it does stink. I'm a muralist, and was working with a friend to just repaint a room. Nothing fancy, but he sat there telling me how to care for his brushes, how to wipe the paint, use as little as possible, and how to cut into corners. I was done. He knows my skills, but he was acting like I was a child. I reminded him I'm a professional artist, I've prepped, primed and painted rooms before doing a mural. I painted all the walls in my house, and I know what I'm doing. He hired me because he knew my skills were good, but this micromanaging was too much. I left him, walked off the job, and haven't spoken to him since.
@@StarBellySneetchActually the company I work for does hire more women even without the right qualifications because they want to meet a diversity quota over qualified candidates.
@@jamespruitt6718 Ah, so you too know the pain of doing the work of three people, and getting a worse evaluation than the people whose slack you take up.
@@danmac6185yea that type of work environment is disgusting and there's no excuse as to why jobs are forced to hire unqualified ppl regardless of their gender just to fit certain quotas... I'm surprised they are able to keep anyone with legitimate skill if they are having to pick up that much slack .
I was a superuser at my previous job. If anyone accused me of mansplaining when I was explaining basics so she didn't repeat the same dumb shit & need help again, I'd reply with "You're a strong independent woman, you don't need my help. I'm going back to my work."
@@Aeternus_Noxso you're proving that you're condescending here. If one person calls you an a-hole, they're probably the a-hole. If everyone is doing it, it's probably you
So true, a coworker asked me about sales tips, and I went on and on. She was engaged. However, I apologize to her if I was talking too much. She said no, she was open to get information. I still felt I was giving too much information. I do want her to feel confident and resources full.
Also women: “Men won’t mentor us anymore!” Um, yeah. Between this shit and the potential HR nightmare because she decided that “good morning” was over the line, men don’t want to be anywhere near the dice you’re asking them to roll. One thing to keep in mind is that if a guy is explaining the stuff already known, he _might_ just be rolling through his mental flowchart to reach the part that is causing trouble. Maybe let the dude cook a bit.
yeah exactly, if i have a problem i start at the end i want working and work backwards at possible fail points to see what may or may not be working, and sometimes i have to say it out loud so i remember i did it
I was an oil man for 20 years and I would get this exact attitude from women homeowners asking me why their furnace isn't working and what am I going to do to fix it. They would angrily demand these answers and as I would start to explain I would get cut off "I don't care about that! What are you going to do to fix it and make sure it doesn't happen again?" I would start answering that question and again be cut off demanding I explained why it happened in the first place. One woman did this to me so bad I eventually cut her off and told her that she should be happy that I am there because I am the person who found the problem that was caused by another company and I am now going to fix it so that her house will stay cozy warm and that she should be making a batch of those pancakes I could smell to thank me for saving her household from being cold. That's when her husband decided to speak up and shooed her away so that I could get to work on the furnace.
I kinda get it, as a dev when I get asked about something I just give a very broad answer and try to stay away from specifics, until I know people are actually interested in the answer
Women don’t know the difference between a right and a privilege. The fact that he own husband had to shoo her away into the kitchen proves Feminism is a plague
I honestly prefer journaling to venting. Journals don’t: blabber unless looked in, get angry, get burnt out, forget, or do anything other than be a writing surface.
“I just wanted to vent.” … Then word it differently because it sounds like you only said that because you got caught in your own argument when you realized the other party had a point.
Nah but sometimes you just want to vent. Doesn’t apply when you’re completely wrong but sometimes the other person actually agrees with you and wants to help you find solutions. Which is nice of them but sometimes I have already thought about solutions and just want to let out my anger before moving on and putting them into action.
99.999% of the time if a women goes to you with a problem or a complaint she is not looking to fix anything. At best she is looking to vent and normally she is just looking to have her thoughts and emotions validated and nothing else.
So a guy teaching you something you didn't know is a bad thing? How dare he assume you were interested in knowledge, intelligent enough to understand, and bothering to take the time to explain it to you.
Ikr? How dare he assume she's a strong independent woman willing to know how to fix the problem herself next time! How can she be a damsel in distress after that?
So lesson learned, don't teach women anything. Just one word answers. Unless it's YOUR woman then open up just a little bit, and be emotional? With her? Idk man.
that's what i said the only difference is other men just listen instead of being pissed off we spent 2 minutes saying "so next time this happens do this because this is wrong and if it isn't come back and check with us"
Its also a conversation. If you know enough to say "ahh so my subnet on that computer is off" then we skip along to how to fix it or to the next issue.
It's a very common problem when technically oriented men don't know to stop when your buffer is full. These nasty man-hating feminist make it out like this is some kind of misogynistic abuse, and I'm sick of it.
"i was just venting" The fucking shudder of rage that shook my spine... When you try to help a problem but then they refuse the advice and your inquire why and then they just throw that line in your face like a cloud of sand to the eyes and run off
I got a very strong urge to headbutt something when I heard that. I stopped listening to that part of my brain decades ago, but it still makes itself known sometimes.
I think it was "The Dadvocate" who said, women don't want an answer, they just want to be listened to while they complain. Don't offer an answer, just agree that it sucks.
@@robby1816 True but when you do that, Sometimes they then curve ball and you and berate you for NOT offering a solution, (Will say though, I love the Dadvocate, and it has helped me alot with communication with my partner, but damn some people just, suck.)
Oh my God, she is talking about me 😂 For all the women out there who consider this annoying - NERDS DO THIS ALL THE TIME not because they want to annoy you, but because they want to educate you a little bit about a very common problem that everyone encounters in their daily lives.
That’s not what mansplaining is. Mansplaining is when a man explains something we didn’t ask him to. Like I’m deciding between two dvd players and a random guy comes up to tell me which one is better and why.
@@jaybee4288 Womansplaining: Condescending explanation of something by a woman, particularly to a man. Mansplaining: Condescending explanation of something by a man, particularly to a woman. It’s not just simply a man explaining something you didn’t ask him to. You could have asked him.
Thanks SO much for giving a wider perspective about communication bewtween "far aside" gender styles. There are also emotional men, but giving an explanation is building knowledge, not "man-xplaning" Thanks, seriously
@@cheekfinesserand somehow THEY are always good at communicating. I pointed to my wife that she transmits, not communicates. She does not consider the concept of interference and reciever. In other words, a woman designed communication tower would transmit at a unique out of band frequency that is susceptable to most normal enviromental conditions that no reciever built can intercept and it will still be the man's fault.
@@anvil3589basically yes, they only want one way "talking" that align with them If you disagree even slightly, they will somehow shift to "you not listening to me" But definitely depend on that person persona, my wife is a whole different species than girls I dated before
Ex military here... if a squad member or officer asks a question, I give as full a sit-rep (situation report) as I can, in as few words as I can, so they are FULLY INFORMED and can therefore make BETTER DECISIONS QUICKLY. You don't like mansplaining? ... THEN STAY IGNORANT!
So if an officer asks you why the showers aren't clean, you give a 30-minute explanation fo all the various reasons that COULD have led to the showers not being clean? I seriously doubt that...
@@hannahk.598why the showers aren’t working and why is this website not working are not simple questions there’s a massive variety of reasons why either could be broken
I am so offended that you mansplained that "sit-rep" means "situation report". I mean, sure, I didn't know, and now I've learned something, but I'm still offended, right? (In case it's not obvious I'm being ironic.)
*sigh* 😮💨 a part of me wants to help when asked because it’s the right thing to do also a part of me thinks they’re social hacking to take advantage of kindness to have someone else do their job for them 🧐 Yes/No answers as much as possible, and avoiding women coworkers especially if you are a man regardless of your sexual orientation
Mentor a female co-worker? Why? They generally don't appreciate it. Seldom are they are they truely grateful. BTDT. And you run the risk of getting charged with sexual harassment. It is not worth it.
It’s crazy that there are so many men in our offices anyway. Y’all need to get back out into the world and build roads and fight wars and stuff. We need to bring back national service, men really struggle without it. Office jobs are for women.
Exactly, they want to give you everything you need to solve it yourself next time because guys are driven to be competent and assume others want to be competent too and not have to rely on others
@@justkev1044 because people are fucking stupid and arrogant and think that just because its someones job means they want to do it like they themselves aren't stuck in a dead-end job that pays minimum wage and treats them like shit
@@lastguardianofthedyinglight no. Asking for help is when you can’t figure out how to do it yourself. If you can do it yourself and you are allowed to, you do it yourself, that’s called being independent. If you ask someone to do it for you because you don’t want to do it, unless you literally lack time to do it, that’s not asking for help. That is being lazy. Sorry to break it to you. It must be far from indecent though, seeing how so many people do it without a care.
As a man with a wife and daughter who aren’t handy at all. I try to explain to them how to do everything they ask me to do. They say we have you for that. So I tell them you won’t always.
This is so accurate. Just because you WANT a simple answer, it doesn’t make the answer simple. It’s funny when people have to face the fact that reality doesn’t care about what you want, not that those people learn from such moments, it’s just funny.
I had a boss who is like that. And, he was a guy. He asked me a very specific yes or no question that he was going to use the answer of to base changing an entire production line on. The one word yes or no answer while accurate, without him knowing a bunch of other details would cause him to make completely the wrong decision! He literally became livid when I tried to tell him anything more than yes or no. So I gave him the yes or no answer, and he was off and running with it. It cost the company a huge amount of money, and many days of production work as a result. But, he made sure he only got a yes or no answer. Sometimes, what you want isn't what you need! Without fully understanding the situation, he made a huge problem for the company, as a result of running with his yes or no answer. Had he allowed me to explain it to him he could have avoided all of that!
This right here. I needed to see this. I’m going thru this exact situation with someone I’ve hired (well he doesn’t get livid but I can see in his face that he’s annoyed a lil bit) And it had me wondering if my leadership style is just ass or was he just trippin? (It’s my first time leading in this capacity so I was genuinely wondering this) But reading your comment makes me realize it actually could be both. Maybe he’s overreacting at some of it but also maybe my leadership has been a little off at times too Thanks for sharing this man 🤝🏾
If you come to a man with a problem, his primary focus is to solve your problem and make sure it doesn't become his problem again in the future. It's not a complicated process. The quicker women can understand that mindset, the better things will be between us all.
This, it's not mainsplaining... we aren't the idiot trying to teach the expert. We have knowledge and we want you to have it as well. We're trying to enable you to fix your own issues in the future. We're giving you tools you don't already have. Not because we think you're stupid, but because we respect your autonomy and ability to handle things... so here's how to do it, know when it comes up you can do it and know you did it, and tell others.
"denegrate men" WHY is auto correct changing my words to change their meaning but any typo remains and then "edit" does not work ?! I feel like I am being harassed. Is it because I am male ?
@@ComaAlphaYes, it did..Then I wrote some other ones against some trolls and got another warning !! Often the comments get scrubbed even when they are harmless or nice.
This is what a man hears, "I don't want to learn how to solve MY problems I want YOU to come and solve the exact same problem every time" so strong, so independent...
To be fair, is it HER problem? We don't have any background, don't know if she needs to use that website often or just very rarely to get some information. And generally: If a website is actually down, it's most likely not a problem with cookies. And if that website is down often, it's a company problem and not her job to play tech support every week I personally like to search for solutions first before I call tech support and I do ask if they want to teach me how to solve it if I know that this problem likely occurs again in the future. But I would be annoyed too if the tech support person goes in a 30 minute monologue about all the things that COULD be the problem if it's not even clear that I have to ever deal with that problem again. I don't need a 30 minute training session for a problem that might never occure again, I have my own job that doesn't include tech support training time slots. That's like me going to the hiring manager to give him a whole lecture about how social security works when he simply asked about a minor error in his salary slip.
This should go viral. My sister took her car to the mechanics because of “noises”. He tested it, explaining what was wrong and she just replied “fix it, don’t mansplain it to me.”
This is every single female I have worked with in the machine shop for the last 8 years. I have been there for 19 years now, and the first 8, they actually listened and executed what I have said. In the last 8 years, it is like pulling teeth to get them to listen. Then they keep asking the same question and wonder why I get upset or get an attitude and then tell management I am "hard to work with" None of the women have lasted more than 3 years in this shop.
bruh, my sis works as team leader at huge corpo. She was once accused of mansplaining by her subordinate that had no clue what to do in her job. Sister told me that with every business specific word she used the girl was opening her mouth wider and wider :D
@Sajgoniarz Whats your sister's logic? A subordinate has no know how, yet your sister explains with more and more "business words" she doesn't understand? Your sister is the one at fault for lacking communication skills. People like the subordinate are people you need to account for and find other ways of getting the point across by understanding what they expect.
Every single one for 8 years. Yeah, hate to break it to you but not everyone working your job would have that issue, it lies on your communication skills with impatient, low-attention individuals - it is a reflection on you, not them. What does getting upset accomplish when you give the same answer to their repetitive questions instead of approaching it differently? Humans in general are entitled beings who blame others when they are not behaving the way they expect, we all have to deal with that.
@@kevinzhang6623 it was not a position for some greenhorn. My sister were looking for assistant ASAP and requirements were pretty high including diploma and some certification. She had to break down every definition for the new girl, while it was impossible to get certification without knowing them. Tools, flows etc. was also an industry standard. My sister could not believe how she could slip through interview. And in terms of communication... there is a reason why some "taskforces" are bring together based on communication types of individuals, since sometimes you can't afford miscommunication, or time required for putting everybody on the same page.
My mom is a verbal processor. Recently, I've taken to dragging her to _my_ point first, leaving absolutely no uncertainty in my wake, and then apologizing and smoothing things over after the fact. Repeating as necessary only until I've finally dug out all my old poisoned wells. Already a solid 80% of the way done now, I think. 🙂
Well said. This is, in fact, exactly what we do. If we're actually condescending - not mansplaining, that's not a real thing - you will freaking KNOW it. You'll feel like someone swatted you one in the face. It would be very, very apparent. Totally blunt, impossible to mistake for anything else.
It sounded like he was over explaining the solution and was totally guessing It's like asking why your phone ain't working to verizon and they give some long winded explanation about how the automatic updates didn't work as planned Okay cool, Idc please fix it already
If someone uses the word mansplaining, that's a huge red flag as coworker because she will be difficult in the most minimum cases and will play victim card.
"asking them to change is like asking us to stop being emotional". literally the best way ive ever heard someone explain it, finna use this next time I need too.
I’m an industrial electrician who does side work occasionally. I’m used to speaking to men. A coworker of my wife asked if I could look at their remodel service so I went there and saw they had used one neutral through the whole shebang. I told her she can’t do that, she she asked why. I started to explain when she cuts me off to say it doesn’t matter, it’ll work, won’t it? Sure have it. The reason you don’t share neutrals is because of harmonics from computer processors. She didn’t listen, and overloaded the neutral which fried her smart TV and other devices. She was complaining to my wife that I didn’t tell her why she shouldn’t do that.
Just say "it can hurt stuff" Any more technical than that and they won't listen unless they're in the industry themselves (at which point, they listen better than men 😂)
@@Nomo-sapiens I've had to do this with managers and bosses at work. I'm a software engineer with IT knowledge and sometimes they hire managers who have ZERO knowledge at all. And yeah, you have to explain it like they're an orc. Even children grasp things better than some of the people I've had to work under. Thankfully, they usually don't grasp sarcasm very well either.
This is why I always say "I don't know" or "I'm not sure" rather than telling them what could be wrong. You just can't solve people's problems anymore. Let them figure it out on their own.
Stupid people don't feel stupid. Only partially competent people do. Stupid people lack the core competencies required to even notice their stupidity ... that's called the Dunning-Kruger-Effect btw. 😂
Women don't want to learn how to fish and to feed themselves. They want just the fish for free and someone feeds them the whole life if they demand it.
Remember folks. If a website doesn't works. You ask why. If it works. You also ask why. I aint jokin every website has like their own moods and periods.
I try and give simple answers when asked. I consider myself a good teacher (I teach music production and instruments). But the way I have conversations, I like adding detail and giving someone a lot to pick up on and continue the conversation. If I was told I was mansplaining, I'd be offended and think that the other person just heard that word and decided to use it against me just to be 'woke'.
No, the most frustrating part is that they used a gendered term to name a behaviour all genders do. I've been "mansplained" by female friends over house chores despite living alone for years. PS. The worst "mansplaining" is women telling men what a "real man" should do.
Mansplaining, a guy respects someone else enough to share his knowledge, often hard-won by making mistakes. He wants folks not to have to learn the hard way like they did. A couple women arguing over how to jump start a car didn't want my help/advice. Okey- dokey. A few minutes later I come back out of a store and they're trying to figure out why a bunch of electronics on the car they were trying to start no longer work. Probably looking at ~$500 bill. Sure ladies, learn it the hard way....
Positive to positive (aka red to red). Black to frame of the car. I know modern car electronics are sensitive to jumper cables, but is there a better way to do it?
That's not mansplaining. It wouldn't have been mansplaining even if you had given your advice unsolicited because they didn't actually have expertise in the area. Words have meaning.
@@jessicacorsi8734 key point.... knowing what is known to them. Men aren't bloody mind readers by design. So they generally err on the side of caution and explain in detail. And then women come along to classify a helpful gesture with a sexist term with an abstract meaning. If you would rather not know, just directly say that you don't want a detailed explanation. Just because I have built manufacturing processes in my career and know a car down to its tiny bits, doesn't make me freak out when my driver explains to me what the fuck is wrong with my car... I don't go out and start telling people that I am a victim of driversplaining.
@Dapryor As a woman: Thank you! I prefer to have the issue broken down for me so I can fix it later if it happens again. That way, I save time and money.
@@alexisblack8921 I hate it when someone acts like anything in life is all or nothing. Not all cops are bad, not all dogs bite. And not all men are assholes just as not all women are gold diggers. It’s unintelligent to paint the world as black and white.
@@alexisblack8921 That kind of woman or really that kind of person I do like to help. I am a lead senior network engineer. So I get people asking for my help often. Most of the time it’s something they can fix on their own & is not my responsibility. So I don’t mind telling them what to do. It’s only women that demand I fix it my self. Which isn’t my job & I don’t care. They want to learn how to fix it then self I will tell them. They demand I fix it go out in a ticket with the help desk. I have a whole company I am in charge of not your browser issue.