Mengsk Co-op Guide | StarCraft 2 

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I came to this channel assuming it was a fairly popular channel around 10k subs but when I saw that you only had close to 500 I was shocked and laughing at how well the videos were made. Good luck to the future of your channel I’m just getting into Starcraft 2 now and it helped a lot.

I like how casual co-op is. I'm able to enjoy it with a few friends who USED to play starcraft years ago. They login, we drink a few beers and catch up. It's good times.

For me Mengsk and H&H are fun commanders to play. Also Mengsk has the most memorable voice lines from all of commanders. "Figh our enemies in the field or we will be fighting them in our home"

It is worth noting that Mengsk's special medivacs have a custom AI that blizzard was experimenting with. It was supposed to keep them from flying over the enemy army by making them stay a bit behind the rest of your troops, but I've found that usually it makes all but one of them unresponsive and unable to heal troops or drop troops that have been picked up. Blizzard still hasn't patched this bug, and I don't know if they ever will.

Your success is because of your hard work and dedication. Can't wait to see what's next!👍👍

I know I'm late. But I really love Stukov. Not only is he fun to play, but his abilities and strategies are so well suited for pretty much every situation.

dogs of war don't "weaken defenses" they "destroy everything amon colored in this zipcode"

Few corrections and insights : Mengsk is a lot of fun to play, tho in terms of raw power, he's a litte behind powerhouses like Tychus, Dehaka, Karri, Abathur or Fenix Mengsk bunkers have 6 troopers capacity from the start, they don't need upgrade ( don't even have that one) like in case of raynor. They are also smaller ( 2x2 instead of 3x3 ) makeing building defensive lines A LOT easyer. Lmg troopers don't have extra range, they just recive hefty damage buff ( esecialy double the base damage. Upgrades sadly still give them just +1 per lvl ) Rocket troopers actually do quite a lot of damage. Well, against armoured, but most hard to kill flyres are classified as such. Aegis guard - what is worth noting, their slowing effect carries over to shrapnel, makeing large grups of them absolute rape train against waves of enemy armour Pride of agustgrad - their final upgrade let them fire 2 extra times, so *3* shot total, not 2 :P . There are more of an utility option, helping your troopers horde with +1 range aura. Also, once on lvl 3, they are amazing wave clearing tool. When red dot spawn, just tac jump to that position, fire triple splash yamato into middle of the group and either kill everything, or kill so much that rest is not a big problem for your army. About prestiges - I unlocked and played a fair bit with all of them so : Toxic tyrant - basicly pure upgrade pre lvl 10, post lvl 10 not so much, as nuke rain is just too usefull (and awesome) ability to pass. Esencialy good only for either leveling up, or for eathsplitter cheese strategy. Principal proletariat - my personal favourite. Extra mineral and supply cost is really a non-issue, as mengsk can fully saturate his both mineral lines *really fast*. Bigger supply cost is even kind of a blessing as mandate generation is tied to unit supply cost ( and multiplied by number dependent on unit experience level ). Merchant of death - this esencialy turns your weapon armed troopers into banelings. Well, they goona die anyway, so why not get a little fun out of that :D ? What prestige description doesn't say is how exactly it works, as in fact there is quite a lot going on with this one. You see, upon death trooper will throw his gun at enemy ( with actually quite impresive range of 12, thats close to deployed siege tank range !) wich then detonates dealing actually A LOT of damage ( 150 ! with +100 extra against structures ). Then again one have to play with this power set to know this :P. Also, weapons are still droped as normal when switching to sla...eee i mean worker kit :P .

I was looking around youtube for coop guides and most where incredibly fast paced with terms i do not understand, placed on brutal difficulty and with turbo high APMs so i was having a rough time understanding, your guides actually taught me what i needed to know without overfeeding me knowledge. Amazing work, you deserve more recognition. May i ask what you have in mind for the future?

My personal favorite is stukov, i find him kind of the "throw shit at the wall until it breaks" commander, startingwith waves of infested, spamming calldowns like they're nothing, sending waves of infested mechs, letting them die since it doesn't matter, and I can't heal them anyway.

I have found his p3 to be the best one there is. It makes his troops so much more efficient and the cost for each gun is way better. (its 40/20, not 120min) and the tactical nuke allows you to one-shot bosses with aoe that a trooper based army would normally struggle. I have one-shot hybrid on part and parcel by just spamming troops. It also helps his defensive abilities a lot as a full bunker no longer takes 1300 minerals but only 340/120 and comes with 6 tactical nukes as well. If you're fast enough you can drop troops in the battle and upgrade them to make mini nukes. The imperial intercessor being gone just means you shouldn't build biological royal guard units. This gets rid of some of his frontline tanks, but the nukes make up for it. I have noticed the enemy units like to clump up a lot making the tactical nukes even better. (Edit: the grind for merchant of death was worth it in my opinion, there are so many upsides and not many downsides that it makes it the best prestige for mengsk)

This was a wild ride. Glad I could be here for it. Cant wait to see what content you push out in the future. Starcraft or otherwise!

I love Zeratul because he is the easiest for me to use. Plus he is great at kiting and I just love teleporting

One of the most detailed reviews about Co-op Commanders. You deserve more views and subscribers. I really have difficulties choosing between Mengsk and Alarak.

War, War never changes, BECAUSE WE LOVE IT! I just want to say thank you for this awesome series, enjoyed every episode. I also love using Merchant of Death.

Congrats on the channel; looking forward to more vids in the future! Mengsk and Stukov are by far my favorite commanders, largely because they combine Zerg swarm mechanics with terran firepower.

The SC2 servers were down so I hopped on RU-vid and saw this had been posted 28 minutes before, and I was like, "Daaamn perfect timing, I been waiting on this." Honestly, I love the series and am glad to have found your channel. This type of content isn't what made your videos so good, you are what made them so good, so keep it up. I will be following your channel from here forward because damn you can make some good stuff. Also thanks for all the breakdowns of the commanders, they've helped me perform better with commanders I have struggled with. This video series of yours has inspired me and given me ideas for my own on my channel, so I thank you for that as well. I previously thought I couldn't make SC content, because I couldn't find any good SC content and I thought the game just wasn't good for videos... boy was I proved wrong when I found this series... seriously, good work, and thank you for this series. I'll probably be rewatching some of the videos periodically, cause they genuinely help me when I am struggling to figure out a commander.

I know I'm like a year late, but I recently discovered your channel, and honestly I have to say you're the best SC2 RU-vidr I've seen. That and also your guide has helped me master the art of war crimes with Mengsk, so thank you. Hope your channel continues to grow, and thank you for the amazing videos you put out! Also for the question: Mengsk is my favorite commander, with Alarak being a close second. Honestly I don't know why, but toxic tyrant makes me giggle like a madman when using it.

I like stukov because he is the hordeist commander and because him as a character is really cool.

Hey Toxic Spill, I first saw this video about a year ago, and Ive thought about it once or twice every week since. I think this is one of the most interesting videos I’ve ever seen because my brain cannot comprehend it exists. Every time I think about it, I convince myself that there is no way you spent seven and a half minutes on an introduction. I watch it again thinking I must have exaggerated something even though I’ve done this every week for the last year, but I’m proven wrong every time, it’s always exactly how I remembered it, even the part where you boast about being the only StarCraft 2 youtuber who isn’t “allergic of editing” in the middle of a seven minute intro. I know there’s no way for this to not be taken the wrong way but I really want to share this with you because I sincerely adore this video. Proofreading is a large part of my job and I think about this seven minute intro every time I proofread, like a looming shadow represent everything I must avoid. I shared this with all of my friends and we still talk about it. Seriously, this video is crazy and I thank you for making it.

amazing videos man and mengsk is my favorite i have a shit ton of marines and a lot of specialized units its the perfect combo of stukov and nova

thank you for give starcraft more time life

It's not over yet... you have not reviewed random commander.

3:30 Fenix, I used to play a lot of Hierarchy in Universe at War, mainly deploying Orlok over the other Hierarchy heroes 99% of the time, and when I played the other two factions I often used their Assault Commanders as well (Mirabel for the Novus and Charos for the Masari), and I love Heroes that are more "In your face" which Fenix fits the bill perfectly, like Orlok he's at his best when he's in the thick of it and has a tool for every situation he wants to be in, while Fenix is better equipped to support his troops via the Arbiter suit, Orlok instead has an Armor mode which removes his Plasma Cannon ranged attack for some of the highest defenses in the game and an additional 200 health (he has a base of 1200) along with regenerating HP at a rate of 1% per second (Hierarchy Saucers in repair mode should accompany him at almost all times), and his 3rd mode Orlok instead has an Artillery piece as an active ability which can be used while he's on the move but it requires ammo which means taking resources off the map (or killing enemy units since dead units count as resources) and he's considered a vehicle unlike any other hero (whence why Saucers should be his "body guard"), and both perfectly encapsulate their respective playstyles, Orlok can become almost a force of nature laying siege to your base from outside the range of your defenses while slowly advancing with Walkers, Saucers, Grunts, etc. in tow or ahead of him, and while this is more of a lore thing out of the three Hierarchy commanders he's the only one who cares about the soldiers under his command, and unlike Kamal or Nafai would rather avoid sending his troops to die needlessly.

All i need is a death corps of Krieg skin

My favorite commander has to be stukov because honestly I really hate micro. I can easily send my soldiers who are going to die anyway to various parts of the map and clear out objectives well ahead of schedule without having to do too much keyboard work

24:46 did you group up the ships before hand or is there a macro to jump between "highlighted" or select which units abilities are shown in the right corner?

@toxicspill is there a way to change your colour and your ally can still see your changed colour in Random Coop Matchmaking !!?

This is the first time I've come across you. You have made a fantastic guide. So much more fluid and intimate than anything people like LowkoTV did. Well Done.

I perfected the start economy build order, now im unstoppable with mengsk

I've had some thoughts if you wish to remaster some of your older Co-op videos, since back then there were no Prestiges added. but otherwise great video as always ^^

Ooh, good stuff... welp, time to waste sleeping time to go through the playlist -_-

Imperial witness has this other abilities other than detection and imperial mandate generator. If you convert them into patriot mode, all of your dominion troopers and royal guards covered by its radius will gain 20% increased movement and attack speed. Pretty smaller but I assure you it work wonders. Blackhammer has this ability called Bulwark Field providing all ground units +5 armor within a radius of 5. If you mix this unit together with your pushing army or your dominion troopers, they will be tougher than usual.

One of the most satisfying leaders too.

honestly this content is absoutely perfect for me, I am absolutely baffled that you have so low amount of subs that you have also Stetmann, zerg but cooler and also battlecarrier lord + banelings? count me in

Merchant of Death is not a hard sell - the cost drops not from 160 to 120 as the video suggests, but from 160 minerals to 40/20, which is next to nothing considering the economy Mengsk can build quickly and early, and the mine that drops deals considerable damage. Your intercessors cannot heal any royal guard other than the marauders or ghosts, which you dont want to have many of anyway, and so not having them isnt a big deal. Merchant of Death is most certainly strong, if not a go to, for Mengsk, as it allows you to roll over maps with relative ease. Toxic Tyrant is another really strong option, since that can allow you to cheese certain maps (rifts to korhal, for example), as well as provides you with a strong boost to both defensive and offensive capabilities, provided your ally can protect your cannons since they're fairly vulnerable. As an added bonus, you can move your cannons forward as well since they can be salvaged for the full cost. Proletariat, however, is tragically disappointing :( I like the guard units very much and its sad to not be able to lean on them more. Perhaps if the prestige instead of giving them more xp gain buffed their auras more or allowed them to regen like Nova's units.

29:38 Principal Proletariat only increases royal guard mineral cost, not troopers/laborers, so it shouldn't affect the early game. I quite like that prestige, my royal guards are out earlier and I can have more at the same time without them getting stuck below level 3 because the base XP gain is too small to sustain that many units. A handful of level 3 Aegis Guards early on pack a serious punch.

Wait, this is my 4th video I watched from this channel and I legit thought you were MUCH MUCH bigger, why tf isn't this blowing up ??? Some of the most SC2 quality content on yt

I actually subbed to your channel specifically because of these commander tutorials after I got a new pc and could finally play SC2 again. Incredibly informative and fun to watch. Thank you for the content ^.^

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Y'all need an editor to help cut some of the bad spots in the video. 14:18 has some audio layering that needs fixing, and weird jumps. Other than that, great work so far!

Just realized that contaminated strike doesn’t make any sense. Every single unit in StarCraft is using an environment suit, which is why they can fight in space. So a toxic gas would do little more than obscure their vision.

Very descriptive! I do have a question.. is there a difference between 4 troopers/laborers put in the Earth splitter ordinance? Equally effective with either option?

Im so late to witness this masterpiece, but im glad to watch it fully. so yeah I love raynor, especially it feels like a king to split and still die from a single storm. but p3 raynor banshees+vikings looks hella good.

Just finished watching enjoyed watching and learning about the commander. Favorite commander for Terrans is Tychus, or Swaine. Has for Zerg still picking same with the Protus

blizzard f*cked up. what a waste... stop RTS game developments. there's a lot of potential coop commander blizzard havent make such as Ariel, valerian, and others heroes characters😮‍💨

You’re 100% right about this faction being the 40K Imperium. The character also feels a bit like Alarak, in that he clearly loves how evil he is. I love playing this faction, but I feel kinda rotten when I do. Unlike Alarak’s insane fanatical troops, Mensk’s human troops clearly hate this, don’t wanna die, and subtly remind you that you suck. I’m tending more toward using his Astartes (Royal Guard) to avoid losing hundreds of troopers

Yay! My favourite boi. Mengsk is my favourite.

Alarak used to be my fav until Mensk came in. Alarak is hard to play but feels good when he uses empower me, like a god walking amongst mortals. He is not as OP(tychus) and easy(tychus) as some other commanders but i love his teasing. Playing Mensk is really like playing a tyrant and an emperor.

1.) Thanks for the information - i didn't know, that you can put units in the Earthsplitter Ordenances to make them faster. 2.) The "unknown" reason, why they will release no more commanders are partially that, that most of the original Blizzard workers, who created the game left the Blizzard (thanks to some decision about their other game, formerly known as Overwatch). As for the new owner why doesn't want to mess with the code of a pretty much finished game, which still has enough popularity to bring them enough money without doing anything, i think i can understand. (By the way, it's maybe just my personal opinion, but with the 'Battlepass system" they ruined OW 2. It was supposedly a game, where all heroes is free, and if you gave it enough time, you can collect every item freely. Now technically you shall LIVE FOR THE GAME, or pay for the extra contents in the Battlepass, or you get technically nothing. In one word, disgusting. [Also it's goes against the original creators promise, but those workers are already fired or forced to leave "by their own will", so there no one left, who would complain against their dishonest behavior. The only reason i didn't deleted my Blizzard account is StarCraft 1-2.])

These are not just inspired by Warhammer 40k. These are clearly Astra Militarum :D

The more I look at it the more I think Mengsk is the blizzard devs looking at Raynor and Han/Horner, their general army comp and playstyles, how much they both fucking suck, and deciding to have one commander do every single thing but better. >troopers = marines/han units, but better >royal guard = horner's fleet, but better >earthsplitters = strike fighters, but better >p1 = han/horner p3, but better >p2 = han/horner p2, but better >p3 = han death effects, but better >imperial mandate similar to raynor p3 for topbars or han/horner significant other bonuses, but better >can easily get vision anywhere on the map just like them >also give him swann's multibuild (but better), stronger early game, and better economy because why the fuck not It would be pretty cool if earthsplitters alone weren't enough to make him broken and so fucking boring. Why not give him like half of that, and buff the older commanders a bit?

And now we know why they didn't add more commanders. They were going to put the game in life support and stop developing more content.

Mengsk with toxic tyrant and using the royal guard for defense or attack is straight busted. Raynor with drop pods makes me think of ODST and I love that as well

i might be a couple years late but i love Dehaka bc big dinosaurs also thanks for making this series, your ability to connect with the audience is what draws me in, i hope after this video you’re still doing it

Zagara is my favorite commander, I find it can tackle brutal 5 mutators better with her than any other.

YES IT IS EXACTLY LIKE THE EMPERIAL GUARD! Thank you for pointing that out!

Well, I am happy I stumbled across your channel. You've been a treat. You also sound like the guy from VSauce 3. I had to look it up to make sure you weren't him. Your not him, in case you didn't know. Good luck in future endeavors. As requested... my favorite commander is Hans and Hornier... er. Horner. What did I say? I'm in the process of mastering all the commanders. That couple I find very funny. "Fine." Alarak is awesome too and I am a big fan of his voice actor (Q and Discord). Does that make me a Brony? I hope so. Comments feed the algorithm. So feed ToxicSpill's algorithm and comment.

Actually with how the campaign ended they made a comment that made it seem that Earth will be involved in the future. I don't know why this comment was made as I never played SC1 but sounds like they at least left it open. I know it's been years since the last major content update but just saying they did give themselves a way to earn more money.

Downvoted. The video is great up until you speak on the prestiges. You showed no footage of the final Prestiges in question. Merchant of Death is considered not only Mengsk' strongest Prestige, but plants him in the league of Abathur/Tychus/Dehaka. It's clear you didn't unlock this talent nor use it. Nor played around with Toxic Tyrant, and it sounds like you definitely didn't try his P2 which is considered pretty damn strong. You've made guesstimates on a Guide video with no playtime on them. That to me is a "Hard Sell".

i was actually waiting for this one :)

I always assumed that Mengsk is in co-op in a similar way the the emperor of mankind. That being he is dead but his supporters don't know that and certain people are using prerecorded lines in a sort of wizard of Oz situation. My proof of this is that a lot of his lines are very vague like "the enemy seeks to destroy everything we have built" and "we do what we must" which could just be how he talks or parts of speeches he made when he was alive be clipped in order to make it look like he is still alive. (This is just an assumption so please don't yell at me if I just strait up wrong.)

really useful! I already loved to play this guy, but i have learn a few new things that will prove useful!

You forgot to add that you can switch troopers weapons on field... Also troopers can becomethe fastest builders in game together, including non laborer ones !

Video starts at 7:30. Mengsk's medivacs are messed up though, they wont a click with the army all the way, they stay too far back to heal so you have to manually move them up.

"Proletariat" is pronounced "Pro-le-tair-ree-at". It's a word that means the working class.

Mengsk was never a freedom fighter. He always was a megalomaniac. He just used the ruse of freedom fighting to found his own empire.

Dehaka, just because he can eat like everything. Made a video about it to. And it’s awesome to hear that your hard work and dedication is paying off! Hope it happens with my channel.

Activision is just milking Blizzards IPs before they run there name so far into the ground its going to melt into the core of the earth.

Last commander, last guide to my fav commander. You have no idea what you can do with this commander, so many comps and strategies, all prestiges for him are good, welcomes offensive style despite being a defensive commander. The only 2 things is bad for him is the extra RG exp mastery is too weak to bother, and that his medivacs are dumb, the ladder medivacs have smarter AI.

eh mengsk trooper are very versitile but they still kinda expensive as its 40 minerals, i think it should be 30 minerals

Not to mention he's the only commander that can kill their team mates within the first 10 seconds of the game

Its funny you say Mengsk is like the Imperium of Man considering what StarCraft was originally going to be...

Fast forward to 3:43 to skip to the actual video. *Next time can you please put all that crap at end instead of the beginning?*

I was hoping that they add tosh

5:30 Mengsk is the greatest character who isn't Stukov, Stukov is the best character who isn't Mengsk

some guy on youtube: you know, you need versatility me who just slaps 6 cc and spams infantry until game over: wha...

should do co-op live streams or how to play commanders at those ridiculously high difficulty levels

you haven't mentioned that the shadows abilities can be set to autocast and only the stealth ability costs energy

Thank you so much for this series!!

Wow, you really did just spend 4 minutes at the start talking about yourself.

Bro I really like ur channel and ur content , just if you do this to every League character or every apex character ur channel will growth like explosion

If you want, you could actually talk about the maps. Some maps are easier than others, but others are more complex like Dead of the Night or Scythe of Amon.

I know I’m way late but wouldn’t it be cool to have a tosh commander added?

What editor are you using to edit your videos?

my best for artillery on hard oblivion express is 103 artillery (Devanite)

Him mispronouncing proletariat is proof Toxic doesn't know anything about socialism.

This commander is basically a mix of Russian and U.S. forces from COH 2.

Why are you playing on hard?

Just getting into starcraft, your guides have been extremely helpful, will be continuing to enjoy co-op in part thanks to you! Abathur has been my favorite boi, turning a small army into a mass of titans, teeth, and claws have been great!

Toxicspill can you make a guide for the starcraft 2 nexus coop mod?

Downvoted for first 7 minutes having nothing to do with the title.

My favourites are Swann and Stukov, Swann because I like having a late game deathball of steel and Stukov because I love the infested aesthetic aswell as the swarm heavy playstyle that Zagara couldnt quite give me.

go Stukov P1 and mass diamondbacks, you'll have fun!

watching this even when i have no intentions to play this shitty commander

Heh, I've started playing this game in 2012 :)

now i'd like to see a starcraft meme review.

Nova is my go to, but I ladder more than coop most days.

well , i'd like to share my co-op history , i started with the first commanders , grinded artanis only till the 90 level , such a long way ) then raynor till 100 , (i am not a zerg player , never have been ) then my first buy was swann , i played it a lot and enjoyed it till level 136 , after that i bought karax and also had fun till level 166 , then i watched some coop commander tier list and find out of zeratul , that became my next buy , so i played him a lot , having tons of fun with his second prestige , playing with him almost 100 levels (260) then i also find out about mengsk , that is a very variative and interactive commander and bought it , playing till the 300 level , my last purchase was tychus , for obviously diversity , to have more commanders for weekly muttations and brutal + difficulty , now i'm level 321 and very happy enjoying coop every day and finding something new) so i enjoyed so much your series , watching every single of them , learning something new , and expecting new videos every week ) thank for your efforts , great job ! (oh , i am also a kingdom rush average enjoyer )