Stukov Co-op | StarCraft 2 

Agreed, the creep works out for so many commanders!

​@@ToxicSpilll*cough cough* essance *cOUgH*

He's sorta good even without being paired up with Zerg commanders. But yes he is best paired.

​@@koreancowboy42 Especially good with Kerrigan for the malignant creep.

He does have great utility, I will give him that. LOL!

LOL! I couldn't have put it better myself!

Step 2a: Have a bunch of queens spam ocular symbiotes on the eggs for detection (lurkers aren't fun). Step 5: repeat as necessary. Step 6: accept victory experience.

@@bendystrawz2832 ah, finally, the only reason ever to use brood queens. i suppose if you have a proper force of permanents you can just use overseers.

@Dostoron There are only 2 ways to play Stukov. 1: be any class but Fleshwelder and cascade over the enemy as a relentless tide. 2: be Fleshwelder, mass diamondbacks, and watch the world melt in acid.

Or Just mass diamond backs.

Nothing wrong with free units, am I right!

I feel that. I love truly being the Swarm.

Correction: His infantry are temporary. You should still save up charges to overwhelm enemy fortifications, otherwise you're feeding them kills

@@sev1120 you corrected nothing. Your comment is worthless Of course I'm talking about his infantry, and not his mechanized units. That's a completely different play style, and I don't think I need to differentiate between the two, it's pretty obvious to anyone who plays the game that I was talking about mass infantry As to not feeding the enemy kills, who gives a s**t? It literally does not matter if the units die, that's what they are there for. Saving up charges? I'm not certain what you are talking about, there is a building that spawns the zombies for free on a timer . Send them off to die. If you are talking about saving up the infested Marines in your barracks, that's just common sense, you would only spend that money when you were making a coordinated attack along with your cool downs, like your apocalysk. Alternately, there are several play styles that involve building auto spawning bunkers, so I don't even know what charges I would be saving in that scenario, the units come out automatically from the bunkers Of course, when I'm playing the game well, I have about 15 barracks is towards the end of the mission, and I have no money to spend on anything else ( already researched my upgrades) so I literally just have all of my Barracks on a hot key and spam the infested marine button, and have an unending never stopping wave of zombies. Why the f**k would I keep them at my base, and why the f**k do I give a s**t if I feed them to the enemy, it's called attrition. I will have more soldiers of them, I will wear them down Do you actually play the game?

@@HolyReality891 Two things that I will say before I actually respond to the comment you said. First of all, it may be unclear to some about the context behind your comment. Thus, I issued it, assuming you meant the entire roster, not simply the infantry. A simple comment of "Sorry for a lack of context", and then adding a singular word to your original comment would have removed the need for my assumption. Secondly, I do indeed play the game, and am p3 on stukov. I was simply giving my own words on the subject, as I believed that you may have missed some context behind his kit. So, to get to your actual comment, and beyond the harmful language that surrounds it. I will go piece by piece in response to your comment. 1. It may not seem obvious to anyone. There are many who haven't played Stukov and, seeing the rapid queue times for stukov, it's safe to assume that there are few who understand how his entire kit works. When on the internet, you always have to assume that the dumbest people on planet earth will read what you write, or watch what you record. 2. By staggering and sending in small numbers of troops, and sending in the civilians without support, it accomplishes the equivalent of nothing. Sure, sending in staggered waves of infantry is fine, but only against certain factions, and even then only against specific army styles for those factions. If you send even a single barracks' worth of marines in with them, you can at bare minimum take down the defenses in the base, and they'll have a way of fighting airborne units. 3. You don't need to send your calldowns with your waves to be effective. A wall of marines enough to melt a graphics card faster that the original crysis can do fine all on their own, but when it comes to anything earlier than the latest of late game attacks, your infested will need all the help they can get, especially since the marines aren't exactly the toughest unit. Sometimes, Quality is better than Quantity, but Quantity is a Quality all on its own. 4. the troopers auto-spawned from bunkers and the aleksander have a drastically reduced lifespan compared to those of barracks spawned marines (60 seconds shorter), so unless you've covered the map in creep then it's highly unlikely your infested will actually make it to the fight in time to do any meaningful damage. 5. "When I'm playing well" means that it's a playstyle that you very much favour above all others, and one that you likely have developed because it's the easiest to do. I mean, all you have to do is hold down a single button and the game plays itself, only having to take time away from holding down the A button to move your barracks' closer. 6. "Fifteen Barracks is". I'm going to assume you meant the plural of Barracks (which, funnily enough, is also Barracks). You don't need fifteen production buildings when each one produces 20 marines. Let's take a typical co-op map (say, Mist Opportunities) as an example, and go on Hard mode. your first base has enough minerals and geysers to support 27 SCVs, and the second base has enough to support 24 SCVs. 27+24=51 You have a maximum supply of 200. 200-51=149 That's enough supply for 149 marines, or the equivalent of Eight Barracks worth of marines. Considering the rate at which charges in a barracks are produces, it is unlikely you will need much more than that. So, for the sake of argument, let's say you want 50% extra marines available in case of a surprise attack wave. You're halfway through your eightth barracks, so we'll start with 0.5 Half of 7 is 3.5, so you'd need 3.5 barracks, added with the 0.5 from earlier, that makes 4 You are wasting 600 minerals on buildings that you don't need. And bear in mind that minerals and vespene in co-op DO run out. You could put those minerals to good use. And also, this is all if you don't spend any of your supply on Bunkers (which cost 4 to build). So, let's say you want to build ten bunkers to give some intermittent pressure between spawn waves. That's 40 supply unavailable to you for marines, so get rid of three of the barracks said before (2 for the initial 40 supply, 1 for the emergency 20 marines). At least then the minerals you spend would go towards a decent static defense and potent pushing unit. 7. You make many assumptions when it comes to having more units. That may be true, but the units the A.I. has will be of universally better quality than infested civilians and infested marines, and the compositions they use are designed to synergise with one another. I apologise if my initial comment came off as insulting, that was not my intention. However, that does not mean you can insult me in turn and use profanity (censored or otherwise) to attempt to prove you are right in this situation. In the end, this exchange resulted from a lack of understanding regarding a comment made almost a year ago. You could have simply said that you meant infantry in the situation, and I would have gladly deleted my original comment, seeing as how the context was added. I would prefer if this situation did not escalate further, but if you respond to this with hateful language then that is your choice.

@@sev1120 hateful language? How is it possible that you are so insulted, please enlighten me as to which words I used that were so hateful I said that you personally corrected nothing, and that your comment was worthless. I then asked if you played the game. If that's all it takes to insult you, stay off RU-vid

I know right! I hate when people make videos on how to do something and fail at the point of the video.

@@ToxicSpilll do you still play coop? I would be down to play wit u as none of my friends play

@@callumbowen6604 What server are you on, I seem to find that it is a common problem.

@@ToxicSpilll The Americas im pretty sure

This is worth trying then...

That's because Fungal Snare does not work on unstoppable units, such as the shuttles.

Try p1 mass queens

pestige 1 is best imho, cause it can almost solo 'every' mission on brutal. Defense missions? tanks and diamondbacks will decimate everything. on void launch, run libs to rip apart shuttles in seconds, every other mission is easily finished with just pure mass DBs

I get you, the amount of damage Stukov's troops can do to air units is a little excessive...

a tip for vorazun. use corsairs and an oracle or 2 with dark templars, as they can all cloak and get the cloaking buffs.

fair, can tell you what you can and can't do.

@@ToxicSpilll anything is possible ... except using worker to attack

@@thanhtamdu4675 People in the comments say otherwise...

It's a damn shame too... lol, it's okay. It just means I have to work harder.

Yeah I don't understand why he hated queens that much. I find them pretty useful and powerful

p1 stukov is stupid op. Just max out on diamondbacks and make some overseers and you zoom around the map as a ball of death

Arguably the most powerful siege tanks available.

@@ToxicSpilll They definitely have my vote.

Yes, I probably should have done that looking back at the clip.

@Musical_gaming ya have to buy him before you can level him past 5. So just level him up doesn't help in any way shape or form. I mean not unless that just level him up comes with a code that you bought that lets me unlock him. Otherwise he caps at 5.

@Musical_gaming honestly kind of makes sense. They want you to test the the hero what better way to test them but letting you take them to a certain level. I mean would you rather them entirely lockout playing the character until you buy them? Granted I would rather not have to buy the character at all but at the very least this is a good compromise. I get to try it out see if it's good for me to use if it is buying them if it isn't no harm loss

@Musical_gaming no believe me I fully agree. This is the kind of monetization tactic you would do if you plan on adding a lot more. Like I do not approve of a lot of what hots does but you can at least give them the fact that they have like what 50 heroes? In that scenario it makes sense. Here there's like 9 people. You already spend what 80 to $100 to unlock the entire campaign and the extra missions? Each one shorter than the last. Costing just as much when at best half the time it's just a reskined unit. Not to mention the actual re skins that you can buy on the market place.

Thank you for this, the last one especially as I haven't unlocked the prestige perks and only get to read them off the site that you recommended. Thanks for your feedback btw, I will be sure to do better on the next hero which I think is Fenix, I mean Talandar.

@@ToxicSpilll Yeah i've seen that, as is said: can really reccomend p1 and p3 for Stukov, p1 also makes leveling pretty chill with diamondback spam If you have any specific questions for Fen ... Talandar, I'm willing to help :D

@@DasTarnschnitzel Thank you very much!

That's a good way to look at it I guess.

What Prestige of Stukov do you use if you don't mind me asking?

@@ToxicSpilll i like vanilla stukov as well as frightful fleshwelder.... but ya can't beat lord of the horde for sheer OPness. It takes a while to ramp up but once it starts firing on all cylinders there are few commanders that can as easily beat most of the brutal mutations. In my opinion the only two prestiges that are as fun to play are alaraks shadow of death and novas infiltration specialist. But that is just my humble opinion. EDIT: oh crap I forgot about zeratul... he's such a monster with his p3 "spin to win".... man I love this game :)

@@allenbocephus Those character's prestige's are too strong by I am not the one complaining.

@@ToxicSpilll 🤣🤣🤣 yes you are not lying! Alarak shadow of death is my go to for making brutal feel like normal!

Zeratul

given how stukov is the number 1 killer of cards when your fully set and have thousands of infested marines on the map at a time? xD

Damn, that punishment

Thank you so much!

what does that mean, kind sir?

damn

Indeed it is!

Im glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you, thank you!