Mercedes-Benz E 300 de EQ Power - A Diesel PHEV (ENG) - Test Drive and Review

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Mercedes-Benz E Class 300 de is a plug-in hybrid. Due to stringent environmental regulations all car manufacturers, who want to sell cars in Europe have to reduce emissions across the model range. Otherwise they will have to pay fines. Therefore carmakers invest in low-emission powertrains. Mercedes promises all models will have hybrid or electric variants by 2022.
In case of the plug-in hybrid the car can drive several dozen kilometres in zero emissions mode. A larger battery is charged from an electric socket or via the engine, for example during long motorway drives. Several dozen kilometers should be enough for your zero-emissions zone drive, otherwise the car will behave like a full hybrid.
The Mercedes-Benz E 300 de is interesting, because it is a diesel plug-in hybrid. Most hybrids work with petrol engines, and the only diesel hybrids I can think of are the Peugeot 508 RXH and 3008 Hybrid4 (the 2012 model, not the recently announced PHEV), and back in the day Volvo experimented with a diesel PHEV previous generation V60.
The Mercedes-Benz E300de is powered by a 194 hp diesel - the same as in the E 220d I tested a couple of years ago - and a 122 hp electric motor. The hybrid powertrain produces 306 hp, and 700 Nm of torque. That’s 300 more, than in the regular diesel. The 0-100 km/h time drops from 7.3 seconds in the E 220d to 5.9 seconds in the E 300 de.
The electric motor is powered by 13.5 kWh batteries living in the boot.
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Starting price: 55 600 euro
As tested: 82 000 euro
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@CivilAviation1 4 года назад

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Diesel hybrids are the way to go and will be part of the future. It combines the EV hype with fuel efficiency. And Diesel engines with filters are cleaner than gasoline engines.

@andrzejbudzynski9237 4 года назад

CivilAviation1 show me clearer diesel then gasoline.

@RRW359 3 года назад

Plus there's the Ethanol factor. IDK about all Diesels so this one may be an exception, but for the ones that are compatible mean that not only do you have a less pollutive option than gas OR Diesel, but one you can still make once Oil gets too expensive.

@CivilAviation1 3 года назад

@@prussell890 Read the question correctly that was asked above you idiot. Nobody said anything about performance.

@bigjuicychicken535 3 года назад

@@prussell890 petrols are NOT cheaper than diesel are you crazy? Diesel is way cheaper thats why people are struggling to buy petrols now

@flaviusrosian1824 3 года назад

@@andrzejbudzynski9237 there are a lot

@brucemurphy2735 4 года назад

I have driven a Volvo PHEV V60 Diesel as referenced in Marek’s video for over 3 years. It has worked for me largely on the basis that I live in a rural area and make daily journeys to the town (14 miles all electric), weekly trips to the city ( diesel on the highway and electric in town) and monthly long journeys (200 miles plus in hybrid mode using mainly diesel). I charge daily at home on cheap overnight electricity rates and maybe fill the diesel tank every 6 weeks or so. I would prefer a larger battery as I get maybe 15- 18 miles pure electric in winter and 23 miles in summer and a 7kw charger (the Volvo only has 3.6). Maybe not a popular choice blending diesel with electric and Volvo have dropped the option but it’s what works for you. I know it’s not a very meaningful figure but my current 110mpg seems not a bad return

@merkkiscs 4 года назад

Thanks for your videos! I like to watch them and rarely comment but just wanted to give a nice comment to you.

@westerneurope1752 4 года назад

This is a great car in every way. I have owned a lot of Mercedes, even several versions of the S-class, but this E-class diesel hybrid is just impressive.

@billgreen7519 4 года назад

Sounds like it.. also stylish car that pussy likes to be in.

@matthiaskrempl3073 4 года назад

Great, settle Review. Really appreciate your work. ;)

@albertol1529 4 года назад

Hi Marek, Thanks for a great review. I guess I’m one of those this is aimed at. I live around 160km from London and commute most days. My CLS Shooting Brake does around 50mpg (about 5.5L/100km). I love my Shooting Brake, but as Euro 5s will soon be consigned to the scrap heap, I will be very sadly, part company with it. My original intention was to run it forever(ish) and keep it serviced by the Merc dealer and use original parts. However, I borrowed an E Class Estate for a month in 2018 when my car was being repaired and headed to Biarritz in it. That E220d, did around 65mpg (4.34L/100km) which I was impressed at. So I started looking at the E 300De Estate. The only problem is that my local dealer hasn’t got a demonstrator and I really want to run it to London to check the real world economy for me. Your review was excellent, down to earth and informative.It has galvanised my resolve to get one of these cars, as long as I can get it with the Driving Assistance Plus Package (DAPP). The E Classes are being heavily discounted due to the new model’s arrival, but the new ones in the UK don’t have the DAPP available as they try to run down stock. I’m not a fan of the big hump in the boot, it’ll certainly make the estate less practical, but I wonder if the economy is going to be worth the loss in practicality? Anyway, thank you once again for a great review.

@vvp1002 4 года назад

IMHO diesel hybrid is only hybrid to be

@andrzejbudzynski9237 4 года назад

Vadym Pyatko of course! Unfortunately you are alone... the rest of the world thinks doferently 🤣

@MrProthall 4 года назад

Electric engine is good for the RPM range where the Diesel shines. So it's not helping much anymore. Which invalidates the reason to even buying a Hybrid (which is moronic anyway. Combine the worst of both worlds)

@andrzejbudzynski9237 4 года назад

MrProthall did you hear the latest Vw ad? Clean diesel. Doesnt sound stupid?

@ram64man 4 года назад

MrProthall not true given new gearboxes 9 speed in the Mercedes the diesel part can kick in around the 40mph mark, from 40 -70mph it can be in overdrive but still be below 2000rpm my test on a run got 4 litres per 100km but I did only get 4.6 per 100km with a fully depleted battery around town or with a fully charged pack from Chiswick to Inglestone used just 1.7 litres on the worst day my old car used to use 5.5 litres to do the same trip, so the battery really helps lower fuel costs , for reference the neighbors Prius 2018 model 17 inch wheels used 4.2 litres around town of 4.7 litres to do the same run

@RRW359 3 года назад

@@MrProthall Who buys a hybrid specifically because of the synergy of the Gas engine and the Battery? I can see it being a plus but I don't think that's what most people look for.

@elwoodlynch4840 4 года назад

Excellent review. Thanks. I have a 2017 Q7 etron which is a lovely car! The only issue I have is in the winter, I might only have 32 km to play with after a full overnight charge at home. The Mercedes seems to be similar in that respect. I’d be quite happy driving either of them though as I had a E Class before I bought the Audi. Keep up the good work

@billgreen7519 4 года назад

I have been test drivin the etron and the merc EQC. But my favorit was BMW X5 Hybrid. The speed and acceleration of BMW is insane also the sound is cool.

@swanblake 4 года назад

The stats read very well for this DE. I think this is a nice solution for those with a commute that can take advantage of this combo.

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

I can imagine in Germany, where many people commute daily 50-100 km on the motorway this car is a dream come true.

@macdogge 4 года назад

Great video

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

Thanks for the visit

@arbutusm3 3 года назад

Note the comment in the review, 'the engine never really warmed up' I have the earlier petrol hybrid 350e and even on long journeys when the battery is down to min level 10-15%, it remarkably still manages to provide electric driving for 1/3 of the time. Diesels do not like part time running and I would predict shorter DPF life unless the car is driven fast and for long distances.

@georgefere8452 Год назад

First owner of you tube chanel who is describing all needed facts very clearly and precisely and in short time.All others are just waste of time.Thank you sir.

@MarekDrivesENG Год назад

Thanks and welcome

@TEVAssociation 4 года назад

Shared on our Mercedes EQ group!

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

That's a narrow fanbase :)

@TEVAssociation 4 года назад

@@MarekDrives lol

@TEVAssociation 4 года назад

@@MarekDrives but growing daily

@MrAndrei4777 4 года назад

Started to watch your video and after 2 minutes realised it was a polish version... :O

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

Did you understand anything?

@MrAndrei4777 4 года назад

Marek Drives not that much 😂

@BillyNoMates1974 4 года назад

On the second hand market, this would be a good car even with knackered batteries at 10 years old. Unlike the now 10 year old Nissan leaf’s (with knackered batteries)

@rrobbie2000 4 года назад

I wish there was more phev diesel hybrids. I have a touring caravan and require a diesel for towing and could use electric for local journeys.

@KieraCameron514 Год назад

I like it.

@squod1 4 года назад

Diesel hybrids are the best option.

@andrzejbudzynski9237 4 года назад

strength sports the problem with rhos solution is that diesel engine will never warn up filly during the winter. So this is rather a disaster...

@squod1 4 года назад

@@andrzejbudzynski9237 is the heat for exhaust emissions? A centrifuge on the exhaust system would solve that.

@andrzejbudzynski9237 4 года назад

strength sports of the engine. Not exhaust.

@trk958 4 года назад

The silence of electric power combined with agricultural noise of diesel engine is as good as it gets in these transition period. Without future is predictable.

@nicholaslandolina 8 месяцев назад

Perfect car

@TEVAssociation 4 года назад

Looking forward to GLE 350de phev with 32kwh and 100km ev range!

@0hypnotoad0 4 года назад

That's a very good range, hopefully they succeed. I was eventually put off of PHEVs by the lackluster EV range, but if 100km were possible I may have gone with a phev. I think they need to focus on being more electric, and less gas/diesel. The problem I see with a lot of PHEVs is that the big auto guys need to change their way of thinking and designing, they always try to make a diesel vehicle that has a minor electric functionality, but it needs to be fundamentally the other way around, it should be a competent electric vehicle with a backup diesel functionality. In doing it this way they could focus on designing their engines in a way that prioritizes efficiency, low emissions and quietness, over power and torque delivery.

@The_Hand283 Год назад

The only thing that will make sense for me its the price difference between normal diesel and this PHEV. If i have to pay extra £3000 and above compare to normal diesel imagine how many miles you have to drive before break even. And NO in London you’ll have to pay congestion charges now even on PHEV. Ppl your proper calculations . All this PHEV bs for me doesn’t make any sense . Either go fully EV or stay diesel or petrol. Btw Marek you’ve been the only one on RU-vid who actually provided the proper consumption figures . Thx for the great video buddy 🙏👊🏻

@MarekDrivesENG Год назад

My pleasure. PHEVs do make sense in some regions. Apparently in the northern part of Norway the charging infrastructure is not what the drivers would like it to be, so PHEVs make more sense (as long as they are tax exempt, which soon they will not be).

@The_Hand283 Год назад

@@MarekDrivesENG Revised :)))) this car makes sense now to all minicab drivers in London because you cannot license anymore pure diesel or petrol car and they are making a lots of miles,also school runs and local journeys !

@meherkhan933 10 месяцев назад

Hi mate do you have any idea how many miles does mercedes e class plug in hybrid have it's life time means if I buy an old one can I drive upto 250,000 miles. Please let me know

@McMike 4 года назад

Imagine Diesel + Phev on a car for normal people at resonable price... that would be somethink. A lot of diesel fans would go phev 😎

@pitbylllson Месяц назад

How may years can the batteries work?

@peterbennpan7288 Год назад

Can you charge the battery up using the engine or do you hage to plug it in? For example....... Do you need a charger at home or can it be avoided by using the engine to charge the batterys?

@MarekDrivesENG Год назад

You can re-charge on the go, but that's the least efficient way. Perhaps during a very long motorway drive or going downhill. Basically if you do not have a cheap and easily accessible electrical socket, (PH)EVs are not for you.

@markoljustina 4 года назад

Profi channel! ...i need this car is it rear weel drive or 4wd?

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

RWD

@markoljustina 4 года назад

Marek Drives 👍🏻

@RRW359 4 года назад

I'd probably seriously consider getting a drivers license if these were available in the US. Do you know if there would be any problems using Ethanol in one of these?

@quentinfreeman7516 6 месяцев назад

This car or the estate version rather would be the perfect car for long trips in the US. The fuel efficiency is ridiculous

@tedleer9296 4 года назад

Volkswagen needs to make a GTD with hybrid drive train

@Andersljungberg Год назад

Volvo's Diesel Hybrid was produced well up to 2017-2018

@globalbad3217 4 года назад

Teraz wszystkie filmy będą po angielsku?

@krisu9407 4 года назад

Pan Marek robi filmy również dla grupy osób które posługują się językiem angielskim. Każdy film tworzony jest w języku polskim i w języku angielskim

@ranat5526 Год назад

@1.36 Oh, you forgot your changing cable!

@robertavadani5946 4 года назад

So what was your l/100km while you had the car?Realistically

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

There is no "realistically". You're supposed to charge it every time you have the chance. If you do, you're going to get 2-3L/100 km. If you don't you're going to get 10 like in any other diesel car of this size.

@robertavadani5946 4 года назад

Thanks for the reply. If I would be in the market for one of these, charging over night should be a must. It think it would be a great commuter car if yih do mixed driving. Although I really hate those tablets stuck to the dashboard

@user-he1xq5jn7e 3 месяца назад

Λάθος φίλε μου… ακόμα και με χωρίς φόρτιση η μπαταρία, εγώ δεν έχω δει ποτε πάνω από 7.1L /100 km!!και εκτός αστικού κύκλου με 150 Km/h έκαψε 5,8L!!

@Newspaperman57 3 года назад

Maybe not a 190hp diesel, but a smaller 1.2 liter diesel combined with the ~100hp electric motor would make a very strong competitor! Only on the autobahn do anyone need a sustained top-speed of more than 150 km/h, so a small 110hp diesel will be plenty for even big cars, and then the 100hp electric motor can kick in when accelerating/overtaking. The smaller engine would also reduce weight and therefore allow more batteries to be installed, so the real-world range in worst conditions (motorway, winter, night, in the rain, etc.) is above the 60-80 km a lot of people drives everyday. Sure, it will weight more, but with a proper suspension and a frame made for handling the weight(in the location) of the batteries, and with regenerative braking that is only a small issue today. Yeah, sure, you will lug around a 200kg engine on your commute everyday and 500 kg of batteries on the long journeys, but you will only need 1 car. Braking-distance and maneuvering is also impacted way more by the suspension/frame and especially your TIRES than the extra weight. A frame built for (PH)EV that have the batteries below the floor might even have superior handling and braking because the center of gravity is so low. That means that when you make sudden inputs, like from steering hard left or right (e.g. a maneuver like the moose test) or you suddenly jam on your brakes, the weight of the car is transferred way faster, giving the tires more grip and thus stopping/turning quicker.

@EuropeSomewhere 4 года назад

I think I could sacrifice the boot space, even the flat floor of the estate - but you just turned me off with the point about cold Diesel engine. I’ve got a C250 CDI and it sounds like a tractor. Was hoping this new 2L engine would be better when cold.

@chintetshing1668 Год назад

👏👏👏👍👍👍

@krazyhartin 2 года назад

Diesel hybrids are a great idea. Its such a shame our governments want to put up fuel costs. Our governments are a little short sighted. They think all trucks on long distant travels and farm tractors on large farms can go electric? It's not realistic.

@mdtrx 4 года назад

This is great for towing (god damn campers :P)

@jo_west4871 4 года назад

How does 194 and 122 add to 306??

@Vismajor01 2 года назад

The diesel engine and the electric engine has differente torque figures, it can not work together at full power at the same time, one of them is always behind.

@jo_west4871 2 года назад

@@Vismajor01 Good explanation! Thank you🙏🌟

@Andersljungberg Год назад

Here in Sweden we have something called Hvo100 A fuel for diesel cars that causes significantly lower carbon dioxide emissions. described as a renewable fuel. made, among other things, on animal fat

@MarekDrivesENG Год назад

Interesting. Apparently it requires only a minor update to the injection system, and it also slightly increases power output. Are diesel cars sold in Sweden ready for HVA100 by default or is it a modification people make themselves after they buy a car?

@kevinn1158 4 года назад

I think PHEVs could be a really good option for a lot of people if they could get 60-80km range out of the battery. But I question why the OEMs insist on using such large engines with mechanical powertrains with PHEVs. That just leaves no space for the battery, adds a lot of weight and complexity and kills the trunk space. The BMW X3 30e has a big lump in the trunk to make space for the petrol tank & battery. From my perspective, either the vehicle is mainly an ICE driven machine with the help of a small electrical system like in MHEVs to improve or they should be more like the i3 REX setup but with a larger gas tank. Quite frankly, I kind of think BMW was going in the right direction with this kind of set up but the i3 is just too small for most families.

@MegaGecas 4 года назад

So now this is a car turkish taxi drivers will appreciate in Germany.

@sbenc 4 года назад

I really don't understand whay they didn't put batteries under the seats

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

I'm sure they did, but it's a much bigger battery pack. Toyota and Lexus manage to fit the battery pack under the back seat, but that's a much smaller battery pack.

@andrzejbudzynski9237 4 года назад

Marek Drives Tesla put a batteries in a boot? Common!

@chemiczny_mike 4 года назад

Te samochody są robione na sile. Rozumiem auto miejskie, elektryczne lub hybrydowe ładowane z gniazdka, ale w takim segmencie i przy założeniu pokonywania tras drogami szybkiego ruchu, to to co oszczędzimy w mieście spalimy więcej w trasie (ciężar auta plus lądowanie akumulatorów), nie wspominając o mniejszym bagażniku.

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

W Polsce ten samochód nie ma żadnego sensu, bo poza paroma wyjątkami nie ma stref zarezerwowanych dla aut z napędem elektrycznym (i chyba w tych strefach trzeba mieć pełnego EV, a nie PHEV). Ale na Zachodzie takie strefy są, a ludzie naprawdę dojeżdżają autostradami do miast i wtedy PHEV z dieslem może mieć uzasadnienie.

@chemiczny_mike 4 года назад

Tylko jeżeli są takie strefy w miastach to nie wiem czy zasięg w granicach 40 km jest wystarczający do poruszania po takiej strefie, chyba, że dojeżdżamy do biura zostawiamy auto i wracamy do domu. Ogólnie jednak sądzę, że w aglomeracjach lepiej mieć autko elektryczne a na wakacje od biedy można wynająć, jeżeli nie stać nas np. Na Teslę.

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

Założenie jest takie, żebyś w ogóle to takiej strefy nie wjeżdżał, a jeśli już musisz, to na prąd. Wyobraźmy sobie centrum Warszawy. Nie mówię o Gminie Warszawa Centrum, bo ta ma ok. 15 km długości. Mówię o ścisłym centrum, powiedzmy w prostokącie Al. Solidarności, Marszałkowska, Wawelska, Al. JPII/Chaubińskiego/Niepodległości - z Metra Aresnał pod GUS (przeciwległe narożniki) jest niecałe 5 km ulicami, a w linii prostej ze 3 km. Naprawdę zasięg 40 km nie wystarczy?

@chemiczny_mike 4 года назад

Przy takim założeniu faktycznie ma Pan racje. Odnosząc się do konkretnego modelu tzn połączenia diesla i hybrydy, ciekawe czy będzie można wjechać tam gdzie za rok czy dwa diesle nie będą mogły się poruszać czyli centra miast

@fmsantoscar 4 года назад

Why exactly would I pay so much for this instead of a plain diesel?

@CivilAviation1 4 года назад

saving taxes and reduced operational costs, also benefits in some countries for buying a hybrid. You have to calculate if it's worth it.

@BobBrown. 4 года назад

If you journey to work is less than 20km you could drive to work and back without using fuel. Diesel is quite expensive in the uk. There is also no congestion charges and lower taxes.

@hrleif8994 3 года назад

306 hp, 5,6 sec

@HANSE658 4 года назад

Why did you just toss the charger on the ground?

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

1. It's not the charger, it's the charging cable. 2. It's a cable that came with the car, and is not permanently attached to the charging station. 3. Unless we're talking about fast chargers (that's the big box with cables sticking out), the charger is in fact inside the car. 4. I needed to make a transition, so whatever.

@robert360black 4 года назад

I get the point for the transition ... but kinda rude😂😂 Nice info in the video . Keep up the good work 🤘

@TEVAssociation 4 года назад

Never drop charging cable on the ground! Lol hang nicely and neatly on hook provided.. You ll get slammed by ev groups otherwise lol hint...

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

This is the cable that comes with the car. Many Type 2 charging stations in Poland only have a socket, and you need to bring your own. So I can drop my cable as I please. Also, I needed to make a transition.

@alhataris 4 года назад

Marek did it twice (on polish version too)and he was aware of that look on that smoke at the background

@anthonycbrown1952 4 года назад

@@MarekDrives Marek is an artist and knew it was for cinematic considerations that a socket toss was needed. Well executed!!!

@andreistefan812 2 года назад

Does it have Head-Up Display?

@MarekDrivesENG 2 года назад

Depends on the options chosen. It can.

@vvp1002 2 года назад

Engine heater needed like battery heater for pure EV's...

@otoko7306 3 года назад

Drives like my grandma

@allencrider 4 года назад

I would just get an electric car.

@gogutzy 4 года назад

Yes well, the lexus gs450h which consumed 10 l/100 km at 250 km/h is no longer produced - morons wanted pretty plastics and tampon holders, like on german cars. the battery is in the boot? pathetic, the gs450h managed to store that under the rear seat in the last iteration. Weight of the car is 2.2 tonnes?? that's as much as a mitsubishi pajero, haha. how did the japanese manage to squeeze 345 hp, with a 3.5 liter gas v6 in a sedan the same size as the merc, but only weighing in at 1800 kg? and this in 2006! this car is just another reminder of how patetic the german car industry has become, selling design, plastics and leather to ignorant folks.

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

I find it very unlikely, because Lexus usually limits the top speed in its cars to about 190-210 km/h. Something to do with the CVT (and AWD if equipped).

@gogutzy 4 года назад

check his consumption: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6_Z1ANsSY7c.html It barely rises, and there's a lot of flooring.

@MarekDrives 4 года назад

So, 1. I don't think he ever hit 250 indicated, 2. INDICATED, 3. he drove fast periodically, not all the time, 4. I wish he showed us his instant fuel economy figure, rather than from refuelling, because as far as we know he could have been hyper-milling the car for 350 km, and then started driving like mad.

@MrFlazz99 4 года назад

You hit the nail on the head about the engine not warming up properly - all diesel drivers know that their car runs much better when at proper temperature. You might as well just have a diesel without the battery load. EVs are a gimmick for 'green' cities - and the taxes on non-EVs are a punishment on drivers who cannot afford to spend several years wages on a new car: pay through the nose up front or pay through the nose on 'environmental' taxes. The extra mass means quicker / greater wear on crucial components, not to mention that heavier vehicles wear out roads faster (and yes, I know that a 40-tonne HGV causes one million times the wear of a one-tonne car, but we actually NEED HGVs... and millions more too-heavy cars will still cause some effect to the roads). There has been zero innovation in battery technology - they are extremely heavy, their energy density is still dreadfully poor, the batteries degrade faster than the rest of the car so you will need to spend hugely on replacements in a few years (I would never ever consider a used EV) and battery manufacture is ecologically calamitous. Until I can get an EV at little or no extra cost, with a 1000-km (minimum) range, charging in 10 minutes and with no battery degradation, I shall just avoid the Noddyville cities and drive my non-hybrid diesel with 1200-km range and an engine that's just as good now with 300k km on the clock as when it was new (if not better - it is even more economical nowadays).

@kubiczaz 4 года назад

I think the diesel system not suitable for a long time, damaging the engine I would not buy thanks your test! br

@cubular3000 4 года назад

There's a good reason you don't see many diesel hybrids. A petrol (gas) engine's lower-torque higher-horsepower nature complements the electric motor perfectly and means the engine only needs to run at one fixed higher speed, where it is most efficient. Atkinson-cycle petrol engines such as the ones Toyota uses these days in its hybrids are designed to be even more efficient at those speeds. By comparison, a diesel engine is never efficient when running at the higher speeds that allow it to best charge the battery, and its low-RPM torque nature is pointless since the electric motor is capable of providing that torque. It also generates more emissions, requiring a huge bunch of aftertreatment gubbins that add to the weight, mechanical complexity, and cost. No sirree, we're not gonna see many diesel hybrids anytime soon.

@rzpogi 4 месяца назад

I thought it is because diesels needs turbos to be efficient. Turbos don't like the fluctuating temperatures when the diesel engine is turned off and on.

@delboy2596 4 года назад

I can't imagine it's good for the engines lifespan, to be fired into life while stone cold at motorway speeds.

@delboy2596 4 года назад

@@altern8tive As the battery is in the back I doubt it somehow.

@hsvcommodore4111 4 года назад

Del Johnson interesting point you have here, I never even thought about that

@lm1991 4 года назад

@@delboy2596 as others have hinted. Battery already has coolant hoses running to the radiator at the front

@albertol1529 4 года назад

Just a little footnote to my comment. I wonder how many of you know the damage that lithium extraction causes the environment. It’s a case of the First World placing our problems on the developing countries. Search for lithium extraction and learn what Greta is championing and then ask if she wants Bolivian, Argentinian and Chilean children to grow up with no fresh water and in deserts. 550,000 gallons of fresh water to extract 1 ton of Lithium.....”You have stolen my childhood” says the Bolivian child to Greta Thunberg, the darling of the corporate machine.

@0hypnotoad0 4 года назад

The lithium for a 60 Kwh battery requires the same amount of fresh water that is required to make a mere 30 individual cups of coffee. If you're concerned about water usage in developing nations I'd recommend that you stop drinking coffee before you worry about batteries. Even by your grossly high estimates, only about 5000 gallons of fresh water are used to extract the lithium for a 60 Kwh battery, for comparison an average household in north america uses about 30,000 gallons of fresh water per year. So as scary as your big numbers seem, compared to every day water usage these fresh water usage figures for lithium aren't very alarming. If it's an issue of overall water supply, the solution might lie in using a pipeline to bring in fresh water from places where it is more abundant.