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Mercedes EQA 250 range test with improved motor 

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@emmell9190
@emmell9190 Год назад
Thank you very much for the Re-Test. The EQA is not that well tested since the last years update to PSM motor. I got mine in March this year and compared to my last year EQA with ASM motor it also has the same behavior as you found out: 1) big improvement in efficiency especially in lower speeds. 2) limit to 100 kW charging instead of 113 kW leads to 2 min longer charging time 10-80%. Actually Mercedes has also changed the official communicated charging time from 30 to 32 mins 10-80. The higher energy input to the battery could be a result of it, as with slower charging the battery hits its maximum voltage later. Maybe they limited due to lifetime worries or they changed the supplier of the cells.
@w0nd3rlu573r
@w0nd3rlu573r Год назад
that, and with the bigger battery the overall gain for just 2 minutes more seems even bigger.
@Tumleren
@Tumleren 10 месяцев назад
Do you know if there is a way to see which motor a specific vehicle has?
@papapa1114
@papapa1114 Год назад
Men it took a lot of effort for me to buy an EQE 300 and every time you say these cars are "poor man Mercedes" you break my heart a bit 🤣
@lucamarcspieletv
@lucamarcspieletv Год назад
EQE is not poor mans mercedes
@nohcam22
@nohcam22 Год назад
An EQE is for sure not a poor man’s car. Good choice.
@zeedustrakok
@zeedustrakok Год назад
That’s why I didn’t get an EQE. It might start at €70000, but how it needs to be equipped it is at least €92000.
@Allanwify
@Allanwify Год назад
I tried the car yesterday. I think its a pretty good ride, I could bye it.
@HenrikMilles
@HenrikMilles Год назад
I love this channel! :-). But my EQA has ALL the goodies, HUD, White seats, Roofhach, Better sound, Bigger screen, FANTASTIC intelligent autosteer/drive, etc etc.... so it depends on what you buy extra, but maybe you ment describe if you buy the cheepest one. But its good to say, thats it Possible, to get it for more money.
@AOTanoos22
@AOTanoos22 Год назад
I remember when the EQS came out, they announced the EQA with a bit more range, stating the car will get a battery with the new more dense chemistry from the EQS. I guess that's why the capacity increased too.
@hrrrrrrr2084
@hrrrrrrr2084 Год назад
way to go mercedes, good range
@achtungpolizei7614
@achtungpolizei7614 Год назад
🙏 something to miss this late evening ? Grüße aus Hannover
@nakfan
@nakfan Год назад
ABC = Always Be Confirming stuff 😊
@w0nd3rlu573r
@w0nd3rlu573r Год назад
15:15 the Wh/kg is getting better each month, so perhaps they are packing the same amount with better chemistry. And if they are packing the same physical amount of batteries it's inevitable that the capacity will rise.
@RoyzNL
@RoyzNL Год назад
Good video Morten!
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Год назад
*Good video, Morten!
@hachre
@hachre 4 месяца назад
nice to see that Mercedes knows where to put the charging port
@dominik4503
@dominik4503 Год назад
How can you see which motor you have? If you have said it in the Video, I sadly skipped the part :(
@ulfbingan
@ulfbingan Год назад
The EQB 250+ that I have is 4kw bigger battery to 70,5 Kw
@olivierl2172
@olivierl2172 Год назад
kWh
@amanoza7467
@amanoza7467 Год назад
Still confused between EQA 250 and BMW iX1 in terms of range, could you provide a comparison and a verdict?
@Francis-yc9nc
@Francis-yc9nc Год назад
was thinking of yasa motors but it looks like they will be used in 2024/2025 in the mercedes lineup.
@paescu_2k350
@paescu_2k350 Год назад
Are you going for 1000km challenge tonight?
@mrrkrr
@mrrkrr Год назад
I disagree on the new music. These tracks are legendary and should be the forever standard for car sound systems!
@loveuok.5565
@loveuok.5565 Год назад
ชอบจอ ติดคอนโซลหน้ารถ ดีกว่าเทสล่า เหมือนเอาไอแพดมาแปะไว้หน้ารถ
@mfurmyr
@mfurmyr Год назад
I bet you miss being a BMW driver and a left lane hugger. 🙂
@johnales79
@johnales79 4 месяца назад
I am confused if it’s the 250+ then it has a 70.5 pack. Was there a between version with just an upgrade in the motor?
@van03de
@van03de Год назад
1:40 Is it allowed to pass other cars on the right in Norway? Just as in USA?
@GoofyChristoffer
@GoofyChristoffer Год назад
That is the Bus/Taxi lane, which EVs are allowed to use in Norway. No, it is not allowed to pass on the right, except for 'stau' situations (following the car in front at a speed slower than the speed limit).
@Bud_Terence
@Bud_Terence Год назад
Well, its time, that more and more improvements, from eqxx, trickle down, in to production cars. I have high hopes, in the future c-class ev ....
@niallroche2051
@niallroche2051 Год назад
Hey Bjorn great video as always 👍🏻 quick question why do you not seem to use eco mode on range tests now or 1000km test? I’m guessing eco mode does not make much difference as long as you are gentle with the throttle when in comfort mode… is this true? 👍🏻
@CampGareth
@CampGareth Год назад
Eco mode AFAIK makes no difference for motorway driving. It affects throttle response not efficiency at constant speed, but it often limits the heater which in Norway temperatures can be lethal.
@niallroche2051
@niallroche2051 Год назад
@@CampGareth I think it makes more of a difference in ICE cars and hybrids for example I have a Toyota Camry hybrid, I arrived at work this morning, no motorway in eco mode all the way and I averaged 70mpg and it’s only 9 degrees in the uk this morning so I think I’ve done pretty well 😊
@maximilianholland
@maximilianholland Год назад
It varies quite a bit by vehicle, and driving style, and other factors. Check "Citroen e-C4 real world range test, eco mode" video, finding about 25% improvement on same mixed route/driving style vs. normal mode. The Citroen is an exception (along with a handful of others, e.g. Ionic 38 kWh), for most cars, it won't make *as much* difference - IF - you anyway drive gently. Other things being equal, reducing top speed (high aero losses) is the easiest efficiency gain, especially in cold conditions (high air density).
@rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980
@rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 5 месяцев назад
Could some of the extra range also be down to the fact that the car in this test has less equipment? No power needed for a cruise control that doesn't exist; same with the bigger sound system and other assistant systems.
@frankskytte2785
@frankskytte2785 Год назад
So this test is not EQA 250+?
@austin2planks
@austin2planks 4 месяца назад
Your 90kph number in warm weather normally comes close to WLTP. Odd that they claim 323 miles (for AMG with 18" wheels). At the same time they say its 157 Wh/km which would only give 290 miles with 70.5kWh they say it has! Wonder where the truth lies?
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 Год назад
If they get 16 % more range with a new motor (drive train losses are usually not that big in a EV), just a relatively short time after the model was launched the old motor has to be the worst one they could design
@airestocky
@airestocky Год назад
are you sure they design them by themselve? the EQE run on Siemens motors, right?
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 Год назад
@@airestocky it's probably from a supplier, since Merc outsources most things to press the last Euro out of the suppliers. If the first version is from Siemens (they should know how to build a motor) it's no good advertising for Siemens. If you can get 16 % more range by switching the drive train the original one is really inefficient
@eddiedl6899
@eddiedl6899 Год назад
The Motors in the current EQA 350 are from ZF Friedrichshafen
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre Год назад
Considering the naked basic EQA starts at 51000€ in Germany... jeez... 😂
@sebastiangeorge7714
@sebastiangeorge7714 Год назад
just Stop being poor 🤡
@maad1102
@maad1102 Год назад
Jeez ??! + 59000 € in Portugal !
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre Год назад
@@maad1102 seriously? That is madness... but here in CZ cars are also more expensive than in Germany although income is 50%. No lohic to be found...
@sender5804
@sender5804 Год назад
this shit should cost 30k
@joneslukas
@joneslukas Год назад
Why would anyone buy this one then instead of a tesla!?
@Vxvx22
@Vxvx22 Год назад
According to Wikipedia, the latest EQA indeed has slightly bigger battery
@christianurban
@christianurban Год назад
Only the 250+ does (70.5 kWh usable). All the other models (250/300/350) still offer 66.5 kWh usable.
@Vxvx22
@Vxvx22 Год назад
@@christianurban yes
@jandebuhr
@jandebuhr Год назад
Please test a bZ4X FWD with the 18“ wheels like that. =)
@tridruankham2657
@tridruankham2657 Год назад
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@MrVeeBlog
@MrVeeBlog Год назад
I'm with you on the idea of getting some new music. I can suggest some stuff. 1, My Love's Leavin' by Foreplay. Summer Groove by Tim Bowman, Give "n: Take, by Darren Rahn, Sun's Out by Carol Albert, Friendships by Pascal Letoubion, and The Great Pagoda Of Funn by Donald Fagen. Bonus: Away from the Sun by 3 Doors Down and If Today Was Your Last Day by Nickelback
@mrrkrr
@mrrkrr Год назад
Nah, the current playlist is legendary and should be the forever standard!
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Год назад
Not possible since the music you list is commercial and copyrighted.
@akisakis665
@akisakis665 Год назад
So the cheap Mercedes eqa 250 has a range of (454km) passes in range test the 2021 Tesla model 3 sr+ mic with lfp batteries (408), intresting! Maybe you can test again a new m3 sr+ with all the updates.
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 Год назад
If you take the optional extras into account which are not included in the base price (a base Merc is naked with little stuff and barely sellable used) the EQA is more expensive than a Model 3 which has these extras as standard. Merc and other German brands earn their main profits with extras, not with the car itself
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Год назад
The 2021 Model 3 SR+ result you looked at was with old update and only 49.8 kWh net capacity. Look at row 207: 60 kWh LFP done in winter with 56.9 kWh. In summer that should be 56.9 kWh / 118 Wh/km = 482 km
@akisakis665
@akisakis665 Год назад
@@bjornnyland Thanks Bjorn i am looking to buy a ev and I am definetely buying model 3 now, one more question, do you believe that tesla will increase the charging in the lfp batteries more than 170 kw or it will have more flat charging curve. Thanks. Also great vids keep it up!!
@akisakis665
@akisakis665 Год назад
@@simonm1447 Here in Greece merc starts form 50.000 euros and model 3 at 42.000 so tesla is no brainer, I agree!
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 Год назад
@@akisakis665 yeah it's still a lot of money but the Tesla is one size above the EQA and it costs less
@Mafiaboss0088
@Mafiaboss0088 Год назад
U shud start a electric vehicle camping series make a new channel for it.
@ARPost-kn2jl
@ARPost-kn2jl Год назад
This shows that they are still in early EV devellopment. Lagging behind as a result of 10 years anti ev policy. Now i wait 10 years to consider this brand as my next ev.
@ivohawk
@ivohawk Год назад
Poor man's Merc vs poor man's Bmw 😂 (agree on music sound judgement!)
@walterk8602
@walterk8602 Год назад
Interesting, a 12% improvement in energy consumption by changing the motor. Must have been a lousy motor or were there other factors.
@AndreasHappyfarm
@AndreasHappyfarm Год назад
Why is EQA250 heavier than a Y dualmotor with a bigger battery? Insane.
@RunarKjeldsberg
@RunarKjeldsberg Год назад
That is because the Model Y is cheaper😂
@David_Polak
@David_Polak Год назад
Better insulation. :)
@Migus29
@Migus29 Год назад
Because they are 5 to 7 years behind in EV technology and especially production
@hondaslex
@hondaslex Год назад
Quality of the materials.
@Migus29
@Migus29 Год назад
@@hondaslex LOL, quality has nothing to do with weight.
@reynoldichi1090
@reynoldichi1090 Год назад
500k if i i will go for this.
@marcsimmonds5483
@marcsimmonds5483 Год назад
Those air vents are hideous.
@marcelvanbodegom
@marcelvanbodegom Год назад
they look like cheap hairdryers
@Iceeeen
@Iceeeen Год назад
Everytime I see this type of air vents I think of the early 2000s Citroen C3. Somehow mb managed to make it even more hideous.
@flemminggramchristensen6292
Eqa 250+?
@UNLKYHNTR
@UNLKYHNTR 9 месяцев назад
If only this car had a bigger battery. Like 77 or even 82. The small battery basically kills this car for me.
@aedeau
@aedeau Год назад
And people think teslas are ugly 😬
@Lewis_Standing
@Lewis_Standing Год назад
Why were they using such a crappy motor/ inverter to begin with?
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 Год назад
Yeah I thought the same. Drive train improvements are usually not that big, since these motors are typically already very efficient
@martinwolf9495
@martinwolf9495 Год назад
I would rather buy a Tesla, which is cheaper and has a way better experience with its much software and efficiency
@brecherxp9795
@brecherxp9795 Год назад
190 ps? A big mistake! merc, please, electric cars have to have "punch"! I like the car, but please, put a motor in!
@N1ckZ
@N1ckZ Год назад
iX1 is a better car in my opinion
@raymondpritchard
@raymondpritchard Год назад
What a dull looking car. Mercedes EVs look like variations on a bar of soap with “bling” interiors that somehow look cheap 🤢
@connyrikardsson9559
@connyrikardsson9559 Год назад
Love your show but please stop say “poor man’s edition”. Sounds unprofessional.
@cavramau
@cavramau Год назад
Yes, that language is the language of a poor man's car reviewer. Nonsense. The humour is the humour of a professional comedian. If he stops the poverty jokes all that we will be left with is the double entendres.
@dxutube
@dxutube Год назад
Fat GLA
@tridrean
@tridrean Год назад
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