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Mercedes EQXX; the family sized EV with a 1200km range on a single charge. How is this possible? 

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The Mercedes EQXX is the family sized EV that thanks to the latest technology has a real world range of 1200km+ on a single charge of its 100kWh battery. I join the team behind the car on the Green Mille Miglia in Italy to find out how it does it and how soon we will be able to buy an EV this efficient from our local Mercedes dealer.
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@glyno5594
@glyno5594 Год назад
Fascinating to see a car designed by engineers, not the marketing / finance department who want to service the obsession with overblown SUVs.
@Craig-zq2qx
@Craig-zq2qx Год назад
Totally agree, but if you dial back the aggressive KERs setting the police escort to reduce stop starting of real life driving and all the uber expensive bespoke materials then your left with a car that will perform relative to the upcoming Solid State battery cars from Toyota @£40k out the door! Plug in chargers are museum pieces not to mention raping the planet and fueling child labour, harvesting a huge ecological disaster in the future of all the toxic materials when the battery life comes to an end. Direct Hydrogen combustion/ efules or Hydrogen electrolysis has to be the way or we will be paying £10pkwh to turn on the kettle to mafia energy companies and push car ownership right out of reach for the average 2.4 families, or maybe that's the point.
@Al-of3zp
@Al-of3zp Год назад
Maybe that's why it's a boring unappealing car....?
@brunojulio
@brunojulio Год назад
And yet it’s an amazing marketing tool for the brand
@dandare1001
@dandare1001 Год назад
@@brunojulio Exactly what I was going to say. It is almost pure marketing. They are quite happy selling fat SUVs. They are a business. If they could sell ice cream and make more profit, they would be doing it.
@davesmith60
@davesmith60 Год назад
It's the customers that turn them into SUVs. Men with tiny penises and huge egos in gle Merc and x7s thinking they're cool.
@bluesky9093
@bluesky9093 Год назад
I think I’ve stumbled on my now favorite channel for car reviews, next to Jay Leno’s garage. Nothing gimmicky in the presentation, just a bloke that knows something about cars and is willing to get right to point instead of going on and on about things that are obvious to the viewers eyes. Thanks for this review, it’s given me renewed interest in the possibility of EV’s. IMHO we are literally living through what will one day be looked back upon as one of the most exciting periods in the evolution of automotive engineering. It’s also great to see the passion of these young engineers.
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 Год назад
Welcome! Enjoy all the awesome content Harry puts out, one of my favourite channels.
@couttsy222
@couttsy222 Год назад
I'm always amazed at how much effort is now being put into making EVs efficient -- aero, tyres, parasitic losses etc. Imagine if all those translatable efficiences were put into an ICE car, instead of driving around in ruddy great SUVs and utes.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Год назад
Honda Insight? The market was not interested. The Toyota Prius is pretty efficient as it is -- both the aerodynamic Kammback shape and the hybrid powertrain. Sadly, most buyers would prefer to buy a tall and boxy Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid instead (at least it's still a hybrid?). Corolla Cross Hybrid & RAV4 Hybrid sales now far exceed Prius sales for some reason, sadly, as if drag coefficient is not a high priority of buyers. I guess at the time that Europe was interested in/favoured diesel cars the various BlueMotion and Econetic trim levels were something along the lines you mention: a Polo or Fiesta fitted with small diesel engines and more aerodynamic wheel covers & bodykit & lower resistance tyres than the normal versions.
@encerche5629
@encerche5629 Год назад
Audi A2 or VW Polo? Audi A8 V8 TDI which Jeremy Clarkson did an eco run. There's plenty of ICE cars that can be driven efficiently on B roads. City planning has been so anti-car which has increased the fuel usage 20% or more. At the same time idiotic CO2 based taxes have forced manufacturers to lie and cheat about the real world numbers
@Speedystig
@Speedystig Год назад
That's only because they were ugly as sin! Need to make it actually look good! Prius and insight were woeful. Look at all the Tesla saloons that sell , the EQXX is a good looking car if they ever made it similar to that
@tgregi
@tgregi Год назад
Aero gains in ICE are much smaller then EV, becose combustion engine is sooo unefficient. That is why EV get so much worse mileage with towing then ICE.
@encerche5629
@encerche5629 Год назад
@@tgregi You just don't calculate transport and storage losses of electricity. And the cold weather losses. And EV cars are only possible for small minority of western people - 99% of the world population will use ICE for decades. That's where the real impact is, if you truly wanted to improve air quality of cities.
@ConnorWagner
@ConnorWagner Год назад
I absolutely love the styling. I really hope the softer flowing lines will be something Mercedes applies to their future production cars.
@skyjockbill
@skyjockbill Год назад
I agree. Most mercs seem styled for a crass american market - this is so different.
@skwdenyer
@skwdenyer Год назад
Is it just me, or did the Oldsmobile Aurora point the way to this?
@jackwhorton6826
@jackwhorton6826 Год назад
I do like the EQXX. I feel we should have gone this way with petrol cars a long time ago ie super slippery, efficient (see honda insight which I seem to recall Harry had once). With electric this thing could have 50kwh battery, save another 250kg ish and still get 350-400 miles range and use half the amount of limited minerals. 200-250bhp is plenty at that weight and with such little drag.
@jackwhorton6826
@jackwhorton6826 Год назад
@@antoniavie and they don’t already?
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting Год назад
Engines have become incredibly efficient over the decades. But you're right. It's too easy to make the fuel tank larger, and there is little reward for making the range even longer.
@d.j.vanderschoot3717
@d.j.vanderschoot3717 Год назад
@@jackwhorton6826 Exactly. And I'd rather have all cars look like this than generic SUV's. Think this is actually one of the prettiest cars I've seen lately.
@freddiefox.
@freddiefox. Год назад
Maybe oil companies don't want car companies to make cars that use less fuel. Be more efficient, but not too efficient.
@andypaul999
@andypaul999 Год назад
The VW XL1 concept went along these lines, 100km on one litre of diesel. Still think refining aero and engines with fossil fuels is the ultimate future for a majority of us.
@lukemallory7832
@lukemallory7832 Год назад
Shout out to the Italians who still drive normal cars like the Fiat Panda featuring throughout this video!
@stevenfarrall3942
@stevenfarrall3942 Год назад
Yes. And the $64,000 question is how do you make a small 'everyman' car like the Panda slippery, light, cheap and electric?
@TheBlackD
@TheBlackD Год назад
@@stevenfarrall3942 You don't. Just look at the global strategies of automotive groups and regulations. Cars will get more expensive and less and less people will be able to buy them. They don't care about people they care about keeping the money flowing. The everyman will have to find other solutions. Capitalists interests were (kinda) in line with those of people from the west from the end of the 40s to the early 2000s . Since 2008 they splitted ways and they won't join for a long time.
@stevef01
@stevef01 Год назад
@@TheBlackD I think you are partially right. Certainly the Powers That Be (the 'technocratic managerialists') seem very keen to deprive The Common Man of the freedom to drive cheap cars using very high energy density hydrocarbon based fuels. They seem to think that world work perfectly if only all of us did what they say. As 'capitalists' - we are all 'capitalists' in the Adam Smith sense. Trouble is what we now have is not at all Adam Smith capitalism (capitalism being a word coined by Marx). What we now have is a form of crony corporatism based on regulatory central planning, sort of Marxist. And however you look at it the modern small ICE powered car is a wonder. Cheap, reliable, comfortable, economical and capable of upward of 250,000 kms without a major component failure.
@eze8970
@eze8970 Год назад
@@TheBlackD Pricing a lot of potential customers out of the market (the bottom of the consumer pyramid) doesn't seem like a good business strategy. You may get more brands (or sub brands) offering cheaper no frills motoring.
@TheBlackD
@TheBlackD Год назад
@@eze8970 You still think with the old software. You don't need the mass to prosper anymore. Covid proved that.
@billkeaveney1526
@billkeaveney1526 Год назад
Fair play to Mercedes for pushing the technology to this level. The advancement will spill down to everyday cars. Cheers Harry
@rasz
@rasz Год назад
Yes, just like Volkswagen XL1 tech spilled over to other VWs :-). its just a PR stunt.
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 Год назад
Wishful thinking, like how wasting $$ to put a man on Mars will create a better life for some peasant in Mali.
@CumBrianFries
@CumBrianFries Год назад
@@johnsmith1474 A peasant from Mali, no. A peasant from any developed country? Very much so! This kind of range in EVs will soon be available to the average buyer in developed countries like the US, most countries in the EU, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and even China. But of course it won't be available to average folks in poorer less developed countries like India, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, the Phillippines, and most sub-Saharan African countries.
@GT380man
@GT380man Год назад
@@CumBrianFriesheoretically, but not possible in practise. Domestic mains electrical supplies are of insufficient cross section to permit the implied currents required to charge high capacity batteries. Of course, for the odd, well-placed house, it can be done. But once you contemplate the density of markedly enlarged cross sections of copper rising mains in hundreds to thousands of residences in a small area, typical dormitory district of a town, it’s realised that the nearest substations do not have the cross section needed to send much increased peak currents. So they’d need thicker copper from the HV grid substation. It doesn’t end. We’d need to rewire the country. Then we learn there’s not enough copper available to form the implied thousands of miles of new mains conductor. Even if we could solve all of those engineering & economic challenges, there’s yet another that we cannot solve, as far as I can see. Consider the work done daily by ICE cars. It’s extraordinarily large. And almost all of that would need to be made available by mains electrical generation. It’s not a small adjustment. I think it’s closer to doubling our electricity output in steady state. The only way that could be done is by burning so-called fossil fuels, most likely natural gas. An alternative is the original fossil fuel, coal. Solar & wind are low density so-called renewables: they don’t create much power per square metre of ground denied to other uses. And regardless of how good it may become, it’s essential to “cover” 100% of the output that we’d need, because on cloudy, still periods, we will get zero % of the peak output from solar and wind, yet the demand continues regardless of such routine weather variations. It’s depressing pointing this out. I love machines from a hobby perspective. I like problem solving, as I have been an applied research scientist all my career. So I’m reasonably numerate and what I call an “enthusiast sceptic”. Finally, I’ve been reading a considerable amount in this field and related anthropogenic climate change. Regret to say it’s all lies. Literally, there is an ongoing fraud in this field, presumably driven by big capital & the dominant, corporate-friendly politicians. Been going on for decades. Once seen, it cannot be unseen. Naturally, once you accept we’re being horribly lied to in one area, are we being told the truth in other fields? No, we’re not.
@Tim_Small
@Tim_Small Год назад
Hyundai's Ioniq 6 is probably the closest production car to this. I doubt Merc marketing/management would have the guts to put something like the EQXX into production.
@michaelscott4766
@michaelscott4766 Год назад
Amazing attention to detail, right down to the lightweight test driver ! Another Ace video ..
@jasperdemann5936
@jasperdemann5936 Год назад
😄 He's got to be worth at least an extra 100km on the range, surely! Poor chap looks like he could do with a few bratwursts in his lunchbox. 🌭
@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 Год назад
Seeing my favourite "Engländer" (as we say in German for "Englishman") have such a good Time with a German in a German Car is fantastic and not something you see very often! Great Video and also Kudos to the Mercedes-Benz Engineer, especially for speaking English with barely an Accent while i myself as a Southern Bavarian sound like a Mix of Werner Herzog and Arnold Schwarzenegger when i speak English Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgadein the Bavarian Alps
@philipmulville8218
@philipmulville8218 Год назад
Yes, the German engineer’s English is excellent - he even pronounced Stuttgart the English way. Great video.
@crgmrgn
@crgmrgn Год назад
With regard to aerodynamics, recall the VW XL1, which through low weight and super slippery shape managed great efficiency from a small 2-cyl diesel/electric combo. Even the Honda Insight to a degree re-inforced the same point. Sadly, the unbounded growth in scale, weight and profligate "SUV" style vehicle has set the wrong pattern for many of the more recent developments … with the "easy" electric race for just adding power to compensate for their short-comings being too easy to adopt.
@otm646
@otm646 Год назад
The SUV style is driven by government regulation on corporate fuel economy. It's not a trend, it's a mandate.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Год назад
This is true, but thankfully we are starting to see a return of ultra-aerodynamic styled vehicles -- cars like the Hyundai Ioniq 6 and Mercedes EQS among others, some with drag coefficients as low as 0.20. Hopefully buyers choose these sleeker bodystyles rather than the SUV bodystyles. (Since energy consumption at highways speeds usually goes at least 90% to aerodynamic drag.)
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Год назад
@@otm646 In the US, CAFE allows manufacturers who sell SUVs and trucks to have higher average fuel economy limits than for companies that sell mainly passenger cars. This is totally illogical and seems to defeat the objective of reducing fleet fuel consumption!
@tassos2011
@tassos2011 Год назад
No matter the drag coefficient, when an ICE is being driven at constant speeds of 83km/h or 87 km/h as mentioned in this video, it’s definitely going to be extremely fuel efficient. I tried in my friends Polo 1.4 - 20 years old vehicle - and does easily 55 mpg 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ So much effort and resources spent to be in the same point!
@tgregi
@tgregi Год назад
​@@tassos2011 Earo gains in ICE are much smaller then EV, becose combustion engine is sooo unefficient. That is why EV get so much worse mileage with towing then ICE. That is why earo is 60% gains in EV but ice will be imho 30-40% max (only my guess) . Also depends of speeds, higher speed gain much more from aero then lower.
@alancobbin
@alancobbin Год назад
This car is simply fascinating,nice one Harry 👍
@aDaWaN
@aDaWaN Год назад
Giving engineers a go at creating the most efficient car is an exceptional great move by Mercedes. Yeah this car might cost 50 million to build and the develop and it might not be to everyone's taste. However, this will open the eyes to everyone, so they know what is possible. This will set the bar for future Mercedes cars and will help them building the best electric car. As an automotive nerd, this is one my favourite cars ever build. Thanks Harry for giving this car the attention it deserves!
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick Год назад
My thoughts as well aDaWaN That’s exactly how the older mercs were built, by engineers not accountants.
@marcob1729
@marcob1729 Год назад
Right. One of the dog whistle arguments against EVs is that they're "not ready for prime time". If we're already making prototypes that can go far beyond any reasonable consumer driving range, it means that we're plenty well along in the deployment of this tech.
@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 Год назад
Exactly! I see so many EV Fans be critical of any of the Legacy Brands creating EVs that are better and more efficient than any Tesla and while Tesla deserves Credit for making all these Legacy Brands investing and engineering EV Cars seriously, they should not be surprised now that those Legacy Brands have become better than any Tesla. Teslas are soon going to fall far back in Line of "Best EVs" if they keep ignoring Legacy Brands Innovation and Engineering Feats for EVs Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq Год назад
Volkswagen already did this 8 years ago, when they started to sell the VW XL1 which had a fuel economy of 261mpg, but at a price of over $100k new. (at the same time VW took the decision to make this car, I think they also said they would gonna make a 400km/h car, which later was the Bugatti Veyron, but I can remember it wrong.. think these cars was Ferdinand Piech idea)
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 Год назад
It's a marvelous bit of engineering for sure - but IMO, a bit of a marketing con to present it like this. Air cooled battery - which we know from every other EV with an air cooled battery, saves a load of weight, but means the battery rapidly loses range as it is heat cycled, and you end up having to replace them long before the rest of the car is worn out - lots of other things - like the rear doors aren't working (to save weight, which is pretty bullshit in a 4 door car IMO) - the rear shape being so extreme for aerodynamics that the rear seats look like they would be horrible for adults anyway - and fibreglass springs are mentioned - wonder how often you'd have to replace those as they would delaminate very quickly I'd imagine. Wonder what other technologies it is using that just wouldn't be realistic in a production car... I know, I know - they use these kinds of cars to experiment with new tech to see what works and what doesn't - but trumpeting it's twice the range of other EV's - well sure, but it's also totally impractical - so that's kinda bullshit. Still I guess trumpeting bullshit is nothing new in the motoring industry.
@NigelMarston
@NigelMarston Год назад
I think it's a great looking car - echoes of Aston Martin in the rear. Great tech all over and brings some optimism about the evolution of batteries.
@philco2290
@philco2290 Год назад
It looks like a stretched and flattened ev6. I like it
@MasterChief37
@MasterChief37 Год назад
Or a McLaren Speedtail.
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 Год назад
Agreed, looks good, nice tech
@williamtynan6484
@williamtynan6484 Год назад
Finally a moment of optimism and breakthrough engineering that gives us hope for ‘motoring’ in the near future. Bravo Harry and MB
@elliottharley1386
@elliottharley1386 Год назад
Fascinating video, I've got much more appreciation for what MB has achieved with this car now, thanks Harry!
@deanchur
@deanchur Год назад
Love the traditional mirrors, wish Mercedes didn't go so overboard with tech in their current cars. Also if you get a chance sometime Harry then check out a car that I think is still in pre-production called the Lightyear One; it also has a very slippery shape, low weight and is covered in solar panels.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting Год назад
The EQE is one of the worst car experiences money can buy.
@ohwowthatsgood
@ohwowthatsgood Год назад
This is fantastic. Id love to see you tour that cactus and mushroom leather production facility.
@TheStefanoMA
@TheStefanoMA Год назад
The rear looks like a Maserati 3200 and Mclaren Speedtail had a glorious baby
@commuterbranchline8132
@commuterbranchline8132 Год назад
A nice effort from Mercedes. I’m not sure how different this effort is from that of star up Lightyear? Light weight and aero are the way to go. The greatest challenge is to produce a car at scale that is compelling, practical and affordable. I have a friend who averages 6.5 miles/ KWh from his 2020 Hyundai Kona 64kw, so his range per charge averages 400 miles per charge. That’s not bad for a mass produced car driven carefully by a pensioner!
@speedismyfriend
@speedismyfriend Год назад
The EQXX avrgae 90kmh for 747 miles and hit speeds of 140km at times. I bet your friend never gets near those with their consumption levels!
@garnitan2706
@garnitan2706 Год назад
Great figures. Love the design. This is the first car that has gotten me excited about the direction electric vehicles are headed.
@markthoughtswithukrainemas2072
You sound really boring ,, so sad if this gets you Really excited
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq Год назад
It looks kind of the old Aston Martin DBS that James Bond (Sean Connery) used to drive :)
@robtt997
@robtt997 Год назад
Wonder what your carbon footprint is !
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 Год назад
What direction is that? To even more CO2 emissions, even more society-crippling costs?
@gazzafloss
@gazzafloss Год назад
Yes Harry you're correct the 0-100klm/hr and top speeds are toyally irrelevant to the person looking for a nice family car with reasonable range. Good on MB for taking this "sensible reality" track with this ev.
@tassos2011
@tassos2011 Год назад
But…. everyone is trying to get an EV and try to compete with super cars 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ Just like everyone is thinking about the environment but driving around a 2.5 tonnes Chelsea tracker…
@gazzafloss
@gazzafloss Год назад
@@tassos2011 yes, but as we say about many things, "it's the thought that counts". You don't have to actually do anything to fix the problem, that's someone else's job!.
@DrPittenstein
@DrPittenstein Год назад
I think it's a beautiful shape, looks like a modern interpretation of the Aston Martin DB6!
@peterwooldridge7285
@peterwooldridge7285 Год назад
Smashing...an EV that could be practically used here in regional Australia where long distances are generally the norm. Be interested to see how it handles hot weather
@gordonsimpson3235
@gordonsimpson3235 Год назад
I cant tell you how depressing this car is to me. Ridiculous thing. Slippery shape efficiency is nothing new...trouble is, no one buys 4 door saloons anymore - they all want SUV's. So kinda out of step with the market. Thanks for bringing this to our attention though Harry....as ever great and informative video, even if it isn't my cup of tea.
@neilfairless4589
@neilfairless4589 Год назад
A true look into what is able to be produced. This should have been the brief from the start.
@TheGuzziFlyer
@TheGuzziFlyer Год назад
Absolutely epic, mind-blowing tech and totally the right guy to review it! Awesome viewing Harry
@j.k.cascade2057
@j.k.cascade2057 Год назад
A very good looking car, I would buy one of those. Especially if it was a 2 door coupe, a foot shorter and a smaller battery. (you don't really need that that much battery, lighten up the car with a smaller battery)
@johnsayer116
@johnsayer116 Год назад
I'd want the estate version!
@tgregi
@tgregi Год назад
Just wait few years for new battery chemistry. Its comming. A lot of promising technologies under development:)
@richardmcbride538
@richardmcbride538 Год назад
Really enjoyed! The engineer, very likeable person. Spoke so openly. Well done. Terrific show.
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Год назад
One of the best looking cars of this decade: Clean lines rule! And so does efficiency. Crossovers and SUVs are the plague.
@mateusssssss567
@mateusssssss567 Год назад
When the combustion engines are banned, and car companies see themselves in dire need of actual affordable and efficient cars to sell, the fuckin SUVs will finally die. Can't wait.
@RAHellemans
@RAHellemans Год назад
Fascinating to see the details and the performance kWh/100km they achieve. Only reservation is that driven by weight savings they are natural air-cooling the battery. This will mean no preconditioning of the battery temperatures (cold morning starts etc) and limiting (no?) cooling when charging this severely limiting charging rates. This was early EV tech (Nissan Leave etc) that severely limited their battery life.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Год назад
not clear if it is ONLY air-cooled, or whether they meant that at that point in time it was only air-cooled. Also, in a technology demonstrator/proof of concept like this there's not a strong need to show existing technology can be built in: for instance it doesn't necessarily need working windshield wipers, immobilizer, things like that. It could be that since the features you mention are well-known, they're only proving the novel air-cooling feature in confidence they could re-add other features as needed? You're certainly right to raise the question of course.
@ewanstewart8011
@ewanstewart8011 Год назад
That’s a good looking car, the wheels look enormous (diameter) and narrow for the aerodynamics. The future looks a little brighter but electric cars are still going to price a lot of us out of the market 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@odin5188
@odin5188 Год назад
What does adding a Scottish flag (your nationality i presume) add to the conversation?
@ewanstewart8011
@ewanstewart8011 Год назад
@@odin5188 I am indeed Scottish and proud of it, I added the flag so that all the channels that I watch would know where I’m from should they wish to know.
@odin5188
@odin5188 Год назад
@@ewanstewart8011 Interesting, well i did ask. It's almost like an answer to a question no one asked. Like telling people what I had for dinner. Alas, it's not harming anyone, so crack on 👍🏿
@Carrera-gp9od
@Carrera-gp9od Год назад
Keep putting your flag on mate , nice to see another Scot on here 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🏻
@AndrewClark4MarkRacing
@AndrewClark4MarkRacing Год назад
Top #Merc Stuttgart engineer with top questions from you - wow & thanks!
@jacohauptfleisch935
@jacohauptfleisch935 Год назад
Franco Scaglione who designed the Alfa BAT cars were a genius who recognized the importance of aero on cars. Making the car faster by giving it less drag. Pure genius
@jeremywentworth1833
@jeremywentworth1833 Год назад
Very impressive let's hope Mercedes put something very similar into production .
@MegaRetr
@MegaRetr Год назад
That’s one of the best videos you’ve ever made.
@ACabral711
@ACabral711 Год назад
I wonder if the sugar cane battery lid will have issues with degradation or attracting vermin like they soybean based wire insulation did in the 90s Mercedes products. Other than that, a 1700 ish kg car with a 100kW battery is a really solid feat towards reducing strain on our roadways and particulate emissions from brakes and tires. Range is epic. Looking forward to seeing how the tech filters down to production cars. Sign me up for something like that with half of the range at 1500 kg.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Год назад
I always think they should do EXACTLY that, but also supply extra batteries you can put in the boot for extra range. Let you decide to buy that later, for instance. Or put in a 60kg 300cc wankel generator as a range extender.
@banzai385
@banzai385 Год назад
Rodents will love the sugar cane battery top ,and cactus and mushroom leather !
@BobTheBlue
@BobTheBlue Год назад
Been looking forward to this all week!!!
@hugogreen13
@hugogreen13 Год назад
My father used to say that the only vehicles where drag was not relevant were Tanks and steam engine. As below 60mph drag was not a consideration
@jadamsnz
@jadamsnz Год назад
Really interesting video, nice work. The battery technology fills me with optimism. You mention aerodynamic efficiency playing such an important role for EVs, well ICE cars would benefit as well. As for being surprised at how "low" a speed aero becomes important - try sticking your hand out the window at 50mph and turning it perpendicular to the air stream.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Год назад
"You mention aerodynamic efficiency playing such an important role for EVs, well ICE cars would benefit as well" I know, *yet* people go on and on about how they want a two-box Golf or two-box estate and they think the more aerodynamic Kammback alternatives with sloping C-pillar are ugly (and "not a real hatchback" or "not a real estate"). E.g., complaining about the sloping C-pillar angle of the new Civic hatchback and saying it's not a "real" (i.e., boxy two-box) hatchback. It's crazy! They don't seem to care that the Civic, for example, adopted that sloping rear screen Kammback shape ever since 2007 to reduce aerodynamic drag and that going back to a two-box shape 15 years later would be a regressive step.
@AnarchistMetalhead
@AnarchistMetalhead Год назад
@@TassieLorenzo to be fair, the Civic is a really ugly car, and i say that as someone who really liked the design of the 8th and 9th generation hatchbacks
@maximilianwalerowicz7322
@maximilianwalerowicz7322 Год назад
Ive been eagerly waiting for this video! Curious to hear your opinion on it
@Gaaaaaaaaaaad
@Gaaaaaaaaaaad Год назад
I said that I would never buy an electric car but I would buy this car. Enough HP, range like a diesel car, beautiful looks. This is great
@Thulebeez
@Thulebeez Год назад
Well Mercedes have been very busy on EV scene great to see the future of EV's in action.
@daveb1242
@daveb1242 Год назад
As much as I hate the idea of EV’s I found this video fascinating.
@art322
@art322 Год назад
Love this car! It makes my Prius look like a gas guzzling monster :D
@RAFchurchlawford4469
@RAFchurchlawford4469 Год назад
But your Prius makes the EQXX look like a money-munching monster 🤔
@hydorah
@hydorah Год назад
Well done Mercedes for convincing Harry of the potential of full EV
@3UZFE
@3UZFE Год назад
You mean paying
@gorankrajnovic
@gorankrajnovic Год назад
@4:00 that beeping is the Blitzer Pro app warning about an upcoming speed camera :)
@apostolis2939
@apostolis2939 Год назад
One thing that gets overlooked with aerodynamics is frontal area, yes an suv with a low drag coefficient can sound impressive but because of it's bulk most of its wind cheating engineering is wasted by its height and width. 0,17 cd with such a small frontal area is quite amazing, especially with pedestrian fitings such as windshield wipers and door mirrors
@GoalSquad666
@GoalSquad666 Год назад
I drive regularly between Scotland and Austria. With this car, I have the feeling i could do it in the same time as I'm doing it with my actual car, within 24hrs. For me this is a proper range, it is not a crazy range, it is not on steroids range, it is the range I expect in the future. We just need proper battery chargers, because all over Scotland you only have 7kwh chargers doted and charging a 100kwh battery will be a long coffee break.
@nathangriffiths4629
@nathangriffiths4629 Год назад
Great advancement with the battery life. Personally I would still need double that to even consider battery power here in Australia. Another 8-10 years and well be there. Thats if the price of electric doesn't keep going up the rate it is. Great vid Harry.
@bearclaw5115
@bearclaw5115 Год назад
You'd need 2,400km of range? How big is your bladder?
@bobolulu7615
@bobolulu7615 Год назад
​@@bearclaw5115I guess you have never been to Australia?
@nathangriffiths4629
@nathangriffiths4629 Год назад
@@bearclaw5115 LoL, there's a few stops involved but a drive from Brissy to south Sydney and back is about 2200kms, it's a big country.
@mikeg306
@mikeg306 Год назад
Thank's Harry & Friedemann, what a fascinating video.
@carl8790
@carl8790 Год назад
Imo, the best looking modern car MB has designed in a while. Just to give some context on how crazy efficient this car is, the current prius has a projected range of around ~630 miles. This vehicle with its projected range of ~700 to 800 miles, with a battery equivalent to 11 litres of petrol is mind-boggling.
@rooramblingon895
@rooramblingon895 Год назад
So judging by the BMW you tested a while back with a big battery, this car will do up to 1200 Km, once a week, because it'll take that long to charge it!?
@nealm1814
@nealm1814 Год назад
No, it will take 13hours to charge it from flat to max on a domestic fast charger.
@ninja12lawbreaker
@ninja12lawbreaker Год назад
A silly question, why is the kilometer meter reading called 'mileage' ? I used to have an S class and when I sold after 5 years to be minicabbed in Bristol I was still finding clever stuff on it. The engineers at Mercedes are the real deal. I am wondering where is the pay off though for such brilliant batteries, do they only last 6 months, Pessimist in South Chailey. Great film Harry
@trentgibson6178
@trentgibson6178 Год назад
Love the tech talk, BUT HARRY YOU DIDN’T ASK ABOUT THE BLUE INTERIOR?! Mercedes blue interiors of the late 90’s and early 2000’s were so so cool!
@cheytacpraetoriancomposite3413
Ok the most important question how many hours does it burn when it catches fire, and how much of a special enviro friendly liquid has to be poured on it so it finally stops burning?
@shingnosis
@shingnosis Год назад
Poor test driver having to navigate Italian town traffic while taking battery tech with Harry in a nearly priceless prototype. He was earning his salary that day!
@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484
really like the design, the duck tail is a nice touch
@albertofernandez-sanguino3373
Aerodynamic efficiency works for ALL drivetrains. Put a hyper efficient diesel engine in this car, with 80 ltr fuel tank and 1600 km range is probably not unreasonable
@alanrichards4512
@alanrichards4512 7 месяцев назад
No mention of the YASA axial flux motor which makes it all possible. A great piece of British engineering.
@nolansdavid
@nolansdavid Год назад
It has classic Aston looks but the rear view reminds me of a Riversimple Rasa.
@tuxisgr8
@tuxisgr8 Год назад
Thanks for this deep insight into cutting edge technology. Your questions are very important and surprisingly, many of them got answered. But, as many others state in the comments, the reality just shows such efficient cars never show up at a reasonable price tag, as long people buy the clumsy and heavy cars which in no way reflect a greener future of mobility. But this doesn’t affect your superbe journalism. Kudos!
@Simon-dm8zv
@Simon-dm8zv Год назад
Tesla Model 3, Hyundai Ioniq. Both highly efficient and affordable.
@penguinred651
@penguinred651 Год назад
Interesting to see, the best part of the video for me was when the car was overtaken by a car with an engine and sound and then I thought I know which car I would prefer to be in. Its amazing technology but also sad in some ways to see where the future of motoring is heading. Great cars for people to get from A to B efficiently but then most household appliances are efficient.
@Fernweh1965
@Fernweh1965 Год назад
Agreed, it's reducing car ownership to the emotional level of owning a new washing machine. Oh and making them so expensive car ownership is not for the masses either. It'll be the bus for us working class chaps
@DaveSpecC
@DaveSpecC Год назад
Amen to that.
@YachtReport
@YachtReport Год назад
It’s very hard to make an exciting video about an EV even when you have the fastest on the planet. I don’t understand why they can’t give them a gearbox? Would make it more engaging to drive certainly.
@bobolulu7615
@bobolulu7615 Год назад
A gearbox is only used for ICE type vehicles because the don't produce enough torque over the entire rev range to operate in a car. Electric motors have 100% torque from the moment it starts turning, hence no need for a gearbox.
@tiguanman1170
@tiguanman1170 Год назад
Aero has been known as important for years. The Audi 100 was 0.3 Cd. Above 100km/h, the amount of power required to provide for extra speed is a cube of the velocity which is why the Choron is super fast but requires 1500 bhp to do it. The EQXX is helped by being light at 1700kg. The ICE Mini is at least that. Most EVs are around 2400kg. Making a car light when the battery is 495kg means lots of carbonfibre which will make them very expensive. The EQXX hasn't been built with cost in mind but it matters with production vehicles. So rather than nbuild an EV with a top speed of 150mph, why not have a global limit of 130kmh for EVs so the bias is towards economy rather than power and that will increase range with a smaller battery. It's impressive tech and research but there is no way at present to build an EV for the "masses" that is decent and affordable.
@aro8000
@aro8000 Год назад
The problem with this Mercedes is that it must be expensive. But it doesn't have to. And compromises have already been made, look at how narrow the tires are. It's still a balancing act between efficiency and price/profit. Mercedes can make an even more efficient car, but it would have to be really spartan and probably not profitable for Mercedes, but still driveable. But the progress is visible because 6000lbs monsters is neither efficient nor environmentally friendly. One thing is certain, the EV of the future will be effective but modest. 6000lbs, 1000BHP, 180mph, 22 inch wheels, 100 miles range luxury monsters are just another toys of tomorrow, not a true glimpse into the future. It's still a looong way to go.
@alexjaybrady
@alexjaybrady Год назад
Reminds me of the old Ford Synergy 2010 concept from 96. Love the soft kill option rear subframe megacast, looks so cool
@bobolulu7615
@bobolulu7615 Год назад
Glass fibre springs aye. Well General Motors Corvettes have had those as standard front and rear since 1984!
@mattagnew206
@mattagnew206 Год назад
Nice one Mercedes. I like the emphasis on aero and weight. My elderly Leaf will lose 2% just getting up to motorway speeds. The dirty secret of many modern EVs is they are heavy. We joke about the Yank tanks of years past and here we are driving modern vehicles that weigh just as much (much safer, cleaner, and more comfortable though). Looking forward to a midrange small wagon with +-180hp and 600km range.
@jdkez
@jdkez Год назад
Sunday morning with Harry--a new tradition.
@mikea5205
@mikea5205 Год назад
1200km = 745 miles
@slyck101
@slyck101 Год назад
I question this push for EVs when we don't see airlines, Cargo ships and trucks making the same efforts.
@NielsHeusinkveld
@NielsHeusinkveld Год назад
Slippery type cars instantly look so much better than the horrors on stilts that seem to be the norm..
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson Год назад
Another fine video, Harry. 🙂 I realise that this car is a test bed and I can understand why EV devotees might be getting excited about what it could mean for future developments and their regular road cars ("Whoopee! More new stuff!") but [there has to be a 'but', and my butt's a whopper...] I still think the focus is on the wrong things. More range, more economy, more efficiency, more everything... But always, always more expense. All the cutting-edge tech is aimed at the high end of the market. The batteries, the charging, the materials - the very concept - is the same as we've got with EVs now: slick, whizzy toys for wannabe tycoons who demand the very best of everything. Because, they've been told, they're worth it. Please don't bring up the old 'trickle-down technology' argument. We'll all benefit... No, we won't, because the glorious new tech just puts the average vehicle beyond most people's means. Yes, today's cars DO feature all the expensive options that used to be fancy gimicks a while back: heaters, carpets, power steering, door mirrors, servo brakes, stereos, anti-lock systems, air-con, alloy wheels, central locking, electric windows, rear wash-wipe, parking sensors, cruise control and all sorts of so-called added value techno-gubbins because we're all sooooo special... But at a huge price. That's not very helpful if you want to buy a bottom-of-the-range 'Popular' model but the least you can find is a 'Ghia LX De Luxe GT Plus'. Trickle down technology is only relevant if it improves the breed for all, not just the few, and the motor industry has done a great job of selling luxury as the norm. A spartan interior is now taboo. Cars in Britain have air-con as standard. In BRITAIN, for pity's sake! That's absurd. Easy monthly payment plans are clever marketing to buff egos and make people believe they can afford to live a millionaire's lifestyle on their meagre salaries, but they've seduced consumers into thinking that high prices are the norm. Whether it's their mobile phones or their mobile homes, they've been groomed to think that they deserve the best as a right; plush materials, fancy touchscreens, auto everything. There's nothing wrong with giving rich people what they want, whether it's cars, boats, planes shoes or booze, but nobody's catering to the kind of people who want less, not more. The marvellous promise of this Merc will just make tomorrow's EVs even more exclusive and unaffordable. And today's redundant tech won't be passed on to poor people, no, no - today's EVs will be outlawed or taxed to death or simply quietly swept under the carpet as the new tech takes over. At vastly increased (monthly) cost. The same thing will happen when a new battery discovery consigns lithium to history's rubbish bin. I enjoyed the video, but I'm depressed by the thought of what it may mean for ordinary car buyers. And that's the point: the industry doesn't want anything to do with ordinary car buyers, does it. It's created a whole new type of consumer. Sigh. Meanwhile... An air-cooled fast-chargeable (lithium) battery pack may be good for all sorts of admirably techie reasons, but I suspect the poor thing will have an inconveniently short service life unless handled with kid gloves and a monstrously complex and costly battery management system. Still, never mind, eh? It's only money, and everybody's loaded these days. Just sign on the dotted line.
@banaana1234
@banaana1234 Год назад
You are missing the biggest point of this car. Making a smaller/lower, slicker car is not expensive, quite the contrary actually
@SS-yw7vo
@SS-yw7vo Год назад
💩🤡
@budgefeeney
@budgefeeney Год назад
The tech from 5 years ago has already trickled down to the MG4, which is £6000 upfront then £250/month on finance. Assuming you can charge it at home, that works out cheaper than a Fiesta. If you want to own a car outright, a 7-year-old Renault Zoe goes for about £7000-£8000.
@nigelhartle8306
@nigelhartle8306 Год назад
Extremely interesting look at what’s possible in the next few years- trouble is with “family” EV’s already heading north of £60k how much of it will actually trickle down to the average motorist? Great to be guided by a real engineer as opposed to some PR person from HQ, well done MB. Harry, top vid as always.
@NLBassist
@NLBassist Год назад
This is so interesting, also the short notion about cactus and mushroom leather, which in think is the future!
@neverendingmods
@neverendingmods Год назад
Unusable back seats. Stupid design. Who would want a four door sedan with unusable back seat? I mean look at it. I dont think you could easily get a baby seat in\out of that stupid car. If people want a 2 seater then they'll buy a two door car. Not a four door 2 seater! Come on designers. Have some common sense!
@johnwighton
@johnwighton Год назад
I do recall the Audi adverts in the 80’s pushing the low Cd. It’s not new Harry, but like safety features, it takes a while for the penny to drop.
@simonupex2628
@simonupex2628 Год назад
Basically what you are seeing here is the birth of second gen battery technology and thankfully the engineers at Mercedes been given free reign, with no marketing or bean counters involved.
@pj9375
@pj9375 Год назад
I do like this concept. Rear end reminds me of an Aston db5 or 6. Agree efficiency is the way fwd.
@lgriestra
@lgriestra Год назад
The design reminds me an Aston Martin classic car.
@Porkycheun
@Porkycheun Год назад
Fascinating, a step in the right direction for the electric vehicules for sure.
@joaquinjavaloyesruiz8040
@joaquinjavaloyesruiz8040 Год назад
100 kWh battery. Charging at 5 kW at home (which is a lot of power for a regular home), it will take 20 h for a full charge.
@joaquinjavaloyesruiz8040
@joaquinjavaloyesruiz8040 Год назад
Even the most advanced EV, like this, are no sense. Who is going to say it?
@panher
@panher Год назад
Yes, I always drive 1200km on one day and then set of the next morning to do it all again!
@davefitzpatrick4841
@davefitzpatrick4841 Год назад
So you do exactly 1200kms everyday, arriving home with a empty battery and will need 1200 kms the next day?? 😂😂 for starters you could just nip to a rapid charger for 10 mins ( you've been charging all night ) and top it up , would take around the same time as filling up with petrol . But realistically you'd only need something like a 60kwh battery for around 600 miles , and you can easily achieve that overnight at home , but of course people like yourself would never be happy and move the goalposts saying you 2000km range and two minutes to fill !!!!
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 Год назад
Who TF charges at home without a wall charger?
@davidfennessey2727
@davidfennessey2727 Год назад
Well a proper uk home charger is 7.2 kw in Germany I’m told ever house has 3 phase that’s 22 kw
@Malc180s
@Malc180s Год назад
Totally disagree about this being "mad" range - 300 or 400 miles is fine for your average car because it only takes a minute to fill up. 700, 800 miles (or maybe 500 in winter) is exactly what electric cars should be providing, at least until the charging network catches up (which won't be this decade).
@THEBEATPOETS1
@THEBEATPOETS1 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant and interesting video Harry.The question is what range we can expect from not so aerodynamic SUV or Saloon, perhaps 500-600km, know that would be a game changing for EV's.Also of importance the major impact of a British designed axle unit contribution to overall efficiency.
@suttonsplash14
@suttonsplash14 Год назад
No more electric cars! Borinnnggggg
@nealm1814
@nealm1814 Год назад
Yes, you are.
@BenzAddiction
@BenzAddiction Год назад
Mercedes always provides the best of bests to the market...
@-DC-
@-DC- Год назад
Yawn EV.
@SNORKYMEDIA
@SNORKYMEDIA Год назад
Yet here you are
@Paris__
@Paris__ Год назад
Beautiful..... The rear is very fastback DB5
@Rogge73
@Rogge73 Год назад
Looks like the unholy child between a Kia and a Maserati...
@jolark2259
@jolark2259 Год назад
Fascinating, especially listening to the engineer. Great video and love the car 👍
@cougarfan1341
@cougarfan1341 Год назад
Technologically impressive. Apocalyptically ugly.
@mikea5205
@mikea5205 Год назад
I love the design.
@TC-lk2ev
@TC-lk2ev Год назад
That seems to be mercedes brand at the moment.
@ThePorkypete51
@ThePorkypete51 Год назад
Big deal when a diesel can do the same with a 10min charge at the pump.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting Год назад
Aerodynamics are attractive to me.
@paulclark4426
@paulclark4426 Год назад
200kg lighter that battery? That is awesome. The lighter you make the whole car (and aero efficient) the less power and battery you need to travel the same distance. I'd really like to see companies like Mercedes Benz focus on battery technologies that will reduce the overall weight. EVs biggest drawbacks are the weight.
@ogriboy
@ogriboy Год назад
love the EV6 front end..:) So what they are saying is if you take all the weight out of a means of transport it becomes more efficient ..that's new! Tech enhancements and advancements always good though.
@Pkari
@Pkari Год назад
Very interesting! This is a refreshing take at EVs rather than the usual forcing of SUVs in every scenario. Such range would have a lot more people’s buy in
@stuartsmith5308
@stuartsmith5308 Год назад
Love the longtail design, reminds me of the Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+
@fairmonthotel
@fairmonthotel Год назад
Great Insight thanks for the video Harry Best Wishes
@doccops
@doccops Год назад
Excellent and interesting video thank you Harry.
@philiptyson4000
@philiptyson4000 Год назад
Harry you are head and shoulders above the rest
@S-T-E-V-E
@S-T-E-V-E Год назад
Mercedes has to introduce that design language into their fleet! It's such a good looking car! That Shelby Daytona rear with hints of Aston Martin and a 911 roof line!
@skyjockbill
@skyjockbill Год назад
Apart from your love of exhaust noise, it's wonderful to have a grown-up like you reviewing cars. Great video.
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