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Alex and Jay are Joined by RU-vid royalty 'Elias' from crackermilk fame and talk everything 'Skew Lists'. Elias has been running skew list for a number years now but always with an underlying theme.
in this video you will learn, what a skew list is, how they are played, why they are played, and you'll see a couple of Skew lists that have seen success in the hobby.
also can you tell Sean was jealous he had to work whilst this was being filmed?????
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Комментарии : 43   
@tomlawton9152
@tomlawton9152 27 дней назад
Love your work gents. Think this has been my favourite episode to date! Would love to hear a discussion around what informs a meta/meta shift outside of supplements - maybe use the current QLD meta!
@snowy5628
@snowy5628 29 дней назад
Oh look, its pedro pascal at home
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 28 дней назад
Best Pedro -Sean
@atanvarno732
@atanvarno732 28 дней назад
Here's a magic/horde skew list I wanted to try: 799 points | 54 models Mordor The Undying: Horse (130) 4x Black Numenorean (36) 2x Morannon Orc: Shield (16) 5x Morannon Orc: Spear, Shield (45) 1x Morannon Orc: Banner, Spear, Shield (34) Kardush the Firecaller: (60) 6x Orc Tracker (30) 4x Orc Warrior: Spear (24) Muzgur, Orc Shaman: (70) 3x Black Numenorean (27) 3x Morannon Orc: Shield, Spear (27) 4x Orc Warrior: Spear (24) 1x Orc Warrior: Two-handed weapon (6) Ringwraith: Might x2, Fate (70) 2x Black Numenorean (18) 2x Morannon Orc: Spear, Shield (18) 3x Orc Tracker (15) 2x Warg Rider: Throwing spears, Shield (26) Ringwraith: Might x2, Fate (70) 2x Orc Tracker (10) 2x Black Numenorean (18) 2x Orc Warrior: Spear (12) 1x Warg Rider: Shield, Throwing spears (13)
@TheLumiya
@TheLumiya 29 дней назад
As someone who's only been playing for about a year or so, starting to play using a skew list instead of a 'standard' balanced army meant I ended up developing both skills I wouldn't usually have but also bad habits that I had to try to work out of my playstyle. One tricking Riders of Theoden for most of the last year meant I got good at setting up cavalry heroic combats and making that one big Death turn work well, but I became really reliant on having Might to burn, and positioning in a way where I'd be stuck in moveoffs turn after turn. It also meant I never had to worry about getting traps or surrounds because my cav got knockdowns anyway, and most of my troops were Fearless so I never really had to interact with Terror as a mechanic. It's been interesting transitioning out of that and into a more standard infantry spear line army, learning a lot from both. Great video!
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
Great point! Starting out in the hobby many people only have an army or two to choose from, so you naturally play in a slight skew. Can make the transition to other armies very interesting! -Alex
@91Caesar
@91Caesar 29 дней назад
38:24 damn, top table curse strikes hard at big events doesn't it
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
Ahhh I don't see it as a curse. I've knocked plenty of ppl out of the top 10 from the top table before, so it's only fair it happened to me. I'm glad it was Alex of all ppl to have done it, got a nice huh after the game which made it all better. -sean
@Hughzaa9
@Hughzaa9 29 дней назад
Smart move bringing Elias on, I watch every Crackermilk video so I have to watch this too now! Just a random suggestion too: I can see you’ve put a lot of effort into making the intro animation look sick, but I reckon it’d be better as a closing animation at the end of the video so the video starts the action right away (plus it could keep people around for the last moments when you could also put up a card to the previous episode etc.)
@TheycallmeWade
@TheycallmeWade 28 дней назад
I’m in QLD as well. I’ve played one game and love it. I have the dead of Dunharrow with 3 hunters. Would love to learn more and catch up for a game.
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 28 дней назад
Where abouts in QLD are you located mate? -Sean
@TheycallmeWade
@TheycallmeWade 28 дней назад
@@MtnGoatGaming Sunshine Coast
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 28 дней назад
@@TheycallmeWade brother come down for one of the brissy games and let’s catch up hey! -J
@grimgrauman7650
@grimgrauman7650 28 дней назад
I would say that goats are pritty skew animals.
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 28 дней назад
@@grimgrauman7650 goats are goated. -J
@grimgrauman7650
@grimgrauman7650 28 дней назад
Cavetrolls with spear are really sleept on. Beeing able to support Warg mauraders and batswarms is fun😂. Or just even that one goblin fighting a hero
@grimgrauman7650
@grimgrauman7650 28 дней назад
Just having up to 5 dice to win the fight with the troll maurader is great. Also the one attack of the troll becoming 2 strikes because the enemy is knocked prown.
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 28 дней назад
@@grimgrauman7650 yeah this is an option I’ve never considered. But sadly they are a dead weight in the list still. -J
@AleInBywater
@AleInBywater 29 дней назад
Skew this shit🔥
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
@@AleInBywater yeah buddy! -J
@TopNotchGaymer
@TopNotchGaymer 29 дней назад
Does three great beasts and two fell beasts count as skew?? Hehehe
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
Hell yeah it does, gimme that ASAP -Alex
@91Caesar
@91Caesar 29 дней назад
I think there are two types of skew list. You have a 'semi-standard' skew, which is hyper-focused on some key aspect but still broadly looks and feels like an army. And you have 'silly' skew, where you dial a quirky concept up to 11 and produce something no sane person would bring if they wanted to consistently win games. It's the difference between an army like the Beornings contrasted against something like an 'evil' fellowship.
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
Great shout. I feel like a lot of that semi-skews usually revolve around something like spamming a single type of troop out (like berzerkers, acolytes, stalkers, etc). The silly skew is all the jumbo jumbo doesn’t really goes hard on that single strat, usually with an equally weird list. -Alex
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
Silly skew = new wargmar LL -Sean
@91Caesar
@91Caesar 29 дней назад
@MountainGoatGaming. I am so hyped for new Warg-mar. That can deff win a tournament with a little bit of scenario luck.
@Enigmatus23
@Enigmatus23 29 дней назад
Should I run the new mounted arnor hero and 12 knights of arnor? (Yes I bought 12.) 😅
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
Absofuckinglutely you should mate -Sean
@Macey_Spec
@Macey_Spec 28 дней назад
Hi
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 28 дней назад
Hi -Sean
@lutzeichmeyer9338
@lutzeichmeyer9338 21 день назад
Am I a terrible person by spending 4 hours at my local club playing the same WK +3 barrow wight rise of the WK LL list? Also, would you even call that a skew?
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 20 дней назад
@@lutzeichmeyer9338 look you could lean harder into the skew But the legion is deadly for triple Barry whites !!!! End of the day man, play what makes you happy ♥️ -Jay
@ajcolasante
@ajcolasante 29 дней назад
I regrew my hair!
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
Been to one of them GTA hair dressers -sean
@91Caesar
@91Caesar 29 дней назад
50:09 I'm not sure where you are getting this +1 for the demo charge rule from? When you roll a 1, the charge is removed from play. The LL and FaQs don't appear to have anything to contradict this?
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
That's a great question, I'll have to get one of the boys to awnser that. -Sean
@robbo2099
@robbo2099 19 дней назад
Update? ​@@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 17 дней назад
@@robbo2099 flaming brands brother? I’m not sure - we probably got it wrong hey I’ll do some reading in the future if it comes up in a game 😂 -J
@OGEETOMO
@OGEETOMO 29 дней назад
Does this classify as a Scewd list it's a mixed but also range/spell casting abomination list at 500 points I've been messing around with also brings fury and Witch King for stand fast. Has (12) Bows & (2) throwing Spears, (22) spears, (14) 2 handers and 2 spell casters. I call it skewed because it's skewed towards the cunt end of 500-point lists, IMO. | Total Points: 499 | Total Units: 45 | Break Point: 22.5 | Bows: 12 | Alliance Level: Historical ---------------------------------------- Warband 1 (236 points) Witch King (100 points) - 2 Might - 12 Will - 2 Fate 8x Orc Warrior (56 points) - Shield - Two-Handed Weapon 8x Orc Warrior (56 points) - Shield - Spear 2x Warg Rider (24 points) - Throwing Spears ---------------------------------------- Warband 2 (136 points) Kardush (60 points) 8x Orc Warrior (56 points) - Orc Bow - Spear 4x Orc Tracker (20 points) ---------------------------------------- Warband 3 (127 points) Orc Captain (55 points) - Warg - Shield 6x Orc Warrior (36 points) - Two-Handed Weapon 6x Orc Warrior (36 points) - Spear ----------------------------------------
@muesliman100
@muesliman100 26 дней назад
Well, I suppose it's skewed into having a lot of troops, but if you want to skew into doing a lot of ranged damage something else is probably better, for example Harad. It does just have some glaring inefficiencies (WK without crown & no 3rd might, orc warriors with bows). Honestly you might be better off taking a similar list from Angmar with Kardush replaced by barrow wight and scrap the bows.
@123Jakeism
@123Jakeism 29 дней назад
Any wild rivendell lists to smack together!? I'm paralysed by my options at 550 🫠
@MtnGoatGaming
@MtnGoatGaming 29 дней назад
I feel based on the nature of Rivendell as a list (their hero prices and troops choices particularly) It means its tough to bring a 'wild' rivendell list. Once of my favourite weird ones I've seen recently was David's from the Green Dragon, who championed Stormcallers for much of the last year (and even podiumed with them). Would generally include Gil-Galad and perhaps even a Cirdan for the support he offers. Alliances offer some weird picks, where you could have Galadriel with her Mirror giving back Fate points to Old Bilbo from the fellowship. If anybody else has any ideas feel free to reply and let us know! -Alex
@123Jakeism
@123Jakeism 29 дней назад
@MountainGoatGaming. thanks maaate! I'm normally an evil player, and feel pretty vulnerable without my magic 😅 I might give the cidan and storm caller a wirl. See what shenanigans I can come up with!
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