Metal Gear Solid 5 Red Band Trailer Reaction 

1,2, and 3 maybe, 4 might be too much, 5's story is trash.

@@davidsomoza 5's is also good, it's just the culmination of the series. You can't understand the significance of anything unless you played literally all the others first. That and listen to all the tapes, find all the text documents, overhear specific conversations, and interrogate the right people. So difficult to do.

@@davidsomoza Something tells me you didn't get 5's story. It didn't turn out as good as it could have, because of Konamai, but it was still great, better than 4's.

I guess that depends on taste. Most of Kojima's games are extremely well written but borderline cartoonish and long winded with their plots which but itself can be a turn off. I mean 4 had what? 2-3 hours of game and 7 hours of cutsences and it's about a clone and a ninja saving the world for giant robots and a possessed cowboy. That Let's Destroy Metal Gear comic series didn't really change much from the real plot.

Well, it’s also simultaneously cartoony as hell. Lmao

It was great 🤩

Too bad the story we were promised in the trailers wasnt what we got at all.

It was the best out of all the trailers they did for this game

That's exactly what he did with MGS Peace Walker because the PSP had a lot of kids in its demographic. Censorship is just fucking cancer.

@@ganganthefatman1382 still peace Walker was my favourite by far, 5 would have been like peacewalker times 10 but they scraped way too much and tied kojimas hands to much

David Hayter was called because if you played the game this isn't Snake. There's a reason Kojima did all of this.

@@pixytorres7117 Japanese Snake wasn't replaced.

Liquid has his own voice, Solidus has his own voice and Solid Snake has his own voice, there's no reason Big Boss shouldn't have his own either.

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Does acid fit in the timeline?

@@alejandrogamez9866 Acid is a spin off that shares 0 characters or locations. And nothing in acid affects the rest of the world, or vice versa. Technically it's after MGS2, but since it's completely insignificant, it doesn't matter when.

@@alejandrogamez9866 nope does not really matter.

Quiet turns invisible too IIRC.

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This game was indeed amazing except for that one mission “where the bees sleep” where I got killed by a chopper *ALOT*

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Damn. Very good selling points for this game. 🙂

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames It indeed is. Kojima has a way with telling stories. One of my favorite game directors out there. Miyazaki (from Dark Souls, Elden Ring and Bloodborne) is a close second.

Agreed, this was the best experience of storytelling. And I've read many books.

Yeah do release order. You have questions as you play them in release order, and those are also answered in release order, because Kojima made them like movie sequels.

It seems weird to recommend playing them chronologically when the games build on each other.

It’s good to get this feedback on how to experience the game. For Devil May Cry it seemed to work better chronologically but it seems like these games should be experienced in release order 🤔🙂

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames indeed release order

Incorrect. Not every Metal Gear game Kojima made is canonical. You're forgetting Metal Gear Ac!d, which is NOT canon. Sure, it was a shortlived series, but it is part of the Metal Gear franchise and not canon to the main timeline and was produced by Kojima.

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Haha, yeah we saw a quick peak at some videos and they are indeed quite long 😅

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames mostly because Kojima's characters like to monologue. Like, a lot. Not in a sense "Wow, that's long", but "Well, shit, i kinda forgot begining of the speech. Also, what was i doing and what year is it"

yep, the story was a convoluted mess although I found the language theme very interesting, the graphics and open world and sheer amount of options you have in this game are amazing. a little sad we just have two big maps to play around in, I would have liked to see some more scenic variety.

Shame it couldn’t get finished. But it was an amazing trailer that made us want to explore this franchise more 🙂

@@Luemm3l It involves a LOT of call-backs to things a lot of people probably forget, and it feels like a convoluted mess until you finish the whole thing and start piecing the inconsistencies together. Granted, I don't blame people for finding the confusion off-putting. Kojima has been pushing the DEPTH a little far since MGS3, to the point people said 4 was a disjointed mess of 'IDGAF'.

@Polymathically Psalm 22 "My God My God why have you forsaken me?.... bulls of bashan surround me they pierce my hands and feet.... they cast lots for my garments... "“He trusts in the Lord,” they say, “let the Lord rescue him.(R) Let him deliver him,(S) since he delights(T) in him.” "I am poured out like water" etc like with other passages in the psalms, genesis, (including theophany appearances in the torah) Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Proverbs etc are considered messianic in rabbinic Judaism as the suffering servant messiah Ben Joseph, and to Christianity as Yeshua, Jesus bless you ❤ Edit: To expand on this is of course Isaiah 53 where you have the servant being crushed by God as an offering for sin for others, who dies and sees life and his seed afterwards, who dies with thieves and in a rich man's tomb, and who was despised and rejected, so why there is a common view of two messiahs, Ben yosef and Ben David, one messiah as the suffering servant and another as the conqueror who sets up the kingdom. Isaiah 52 the messiah draws Israel back to himself. Some fun and sad things are like people would say Jesus didn't exist despite Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Lucian etc and the apostles writings and the successors/church fathers of the apostles/bishops writings and josephus, because "Nazareth doesn't exist" until of course Nazareth was discovered, or another one, "there was no synagogue in capnernaum" until we found it, or Thomas Payne in age of reason "Bible is false because there were no kings during Jesus's time" until we found King Herod Agrippa's coins, or "Jesus wasn't buried in a tomb because crucifixion victims weren't buried in tombs" until we found crucifixion victims with the nails still in tombs in tombs. More cool things, are Jesus sweating blood in the garden of Gethsemane, this is a real phenomenon called Hematidrosis where death row inmates sweat blood, also another when Jesus is pierced and water and blood come out this actually happens when water builds around the lungs, it confused some early church fathers on the spiritual meaning, but it's a real phenomenon that occurs as well. Many rabbis into gematria etc say there is a curse upon reading Daniel 9 because it says Messiah The Prince must come and bring in eternal righteousness before the destruction of Solomon's temple, no wonder they say that as then if Messiah didn't come before 70 a.d. there is no messiah, those who have divided messiah into two were confused if the messiah would come riding on a donkey or horse, so the two messiahs, as opposed to the jews who believe in Jesus and himself, who state himself and two arrivals. Of course this is why Islam falls quickly because while they call Jesus messiah they don't understand what it means, and Muhammad of course denied the historical fact of Jesus dying by crucifixion (Which besides tacitus mentioning pontius pilate doing it to him, we even have an inscription that was uncovered oh pilate and dates lining up with his time being the procurator/prefect over Jerusalem) besides Muhammad being the total opposite of Jesus, Muhammad had sex with his child bride Aisha who was nine, he beheaded and crucified people, said not to trust jews and Christians, he had Ethiopian slaves and called them raisin heads, he called jews monkeys and rats, he slaughtered villages and the wives of families he killed said you can take them and have sex with them, he got caught having sex with his slave by Aisha and said he would not do it anymore then conveniently "Allah" comes and says it's fine and he can, he's a textbook false prophet, with of course takiyah being they will lie to you about what I said above, Islam is meant to subjugate the world I'd into belief by force, if you don't convert you must pay a tax, if you don't pay it you die. Allah has no love for unbelievers unlike Jesus who loves his enemies and we are meant to love all even to death, I'd write more but youtube doesn't like long messages, with eastern thought eternal universe doesn't fit the mold because and infinite amount of successive events becoming then impossible to have the present, we would never reach today because we would always have a yesterday or event before this moment, an immaterial, spaceless, timeless, mind (agency) bringing space-time into reality, is the best explanation for why anything exists including someone as amazing and as lovely as yourself 😊 So the disciples who say "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." And "13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." Since the witnesses knew whether or not they were lying and knew what it would mean to continue to say he did in fact rise and is the Messiah and God in the flesh then yes I believe them as The Messiah had to come during that time, a mind/agency creating the universe is the best cause for reality, Jesus is the most moral, truthful and charismatic and loving and honest person there is, and the most important and influential, (Buddha said he was still searching for truth, Jesus say, "I am the truth, the way and the life") Jesus gives us love and salvation as a gift without earned merit by us, not working our way to the truth or God or eternal destiny through every other religious and spiritual framework, he loves you and cares so much for you before he created you and wants a living relationship with you here and now not just after you die 😊 There's a million other things to cover that I want to say but this is probably a good stopping point but Jesis wants to remove the shadow in your life and Jesus wants you as you are right now he wants your heart and to live in you and you to know his love personally 😊 I had people prophesy over me very specific things nobody else knew about my past, things I was thinking or experienced even just the day before, Jesus healed me of sleep paralysis I had for years, depression and loneliness, I had a dream of a woman named Heather and a voice telling me their dad had died, a couple days later i meet them and they tell me about how they had just lost their dad that week, I feel God telling me to sit down and close my eyes and I see an outline of someone going to the bathroom very bizarre, then shortly after someone out of the blue asking me to pray for them as they are having trouble going to the bathroom, another was I ask Jesus alone "are you my buddy?" A couple hours later someone contacts me and they say "Yes Jesus is saying yes he is your buddy" another time was I obsessing a little over this blue suit and someone prophecies "I see you in this blue suit" etc, another time I was testing this whole thing and I'm about to be prophecied over and I have my Google notes out I had tried writing out a little story and it was about a fire and forest being burnt down and I ask God to confirm if he wants me to write this and sort of as a test because everything had been scary accurate and the person right after says "God wants you to be his little stick lit ablaze with his love, it may not seem like much but one small flame can burn down a whole forest" 😂 another one was I had this. Surreal vision looking at stars, shortly after someone messages me saying Jesus is looking at a telescope with you saying to you "everything I have is yours even the stars" another one I was in the bathroom asking God for a message for my friend Moses in Nigeria and as I'm leaving the bathroom i freeze in place and go into this bizarre trance like Peter in the book of acts and I see my friend Moses as a child playing with a toy firetruck and Jesus sitting next to him with love, I quickly tell them and they are in shock as they had just thrown away that toy that same day, another time I had gotten a word from God about someone close to me who hadn't accepted Jesus and that they had been praying to God secretly, I told them that and the look on their face was priceless as I had no idea they had been praying to God at all, they were shook 😄 this is only a handful of many a 100 times in just the last 12 months after 5 years of me being born again, there's so many more amazing things that have happened but you are beautiful and desired of God, he is a gentleman and will not force you to choose him or love him but he loves so so much, he's asking you if you will come, he will love you and cherish you everyday of your life, he will never abandon you, I beg you to take a chance and not reject God's love for you, he wants to heal you and you to enjoy a living relationship between you, God bless you so much, Jesus says to come to him for rest your weary soul he is humble and meek and tender and gentle, he loves you so much he knows everything about you, nothing about you is unimportant to him 😭❤❤ If you repent and call on his name you will be saved from hell and Jesus's wrath and judgement for all have sinned!! ❤ For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!! 💙🙌🏻 repent all have sinned and fallen short!!❤️‍🔥❤♥️ ✝️🙏❤️

I remember the controversy of the part where he opens fires. Some people thinking he actually fired on a group of child soldiers.

It’s definitely a trailer people should see 🤩

Not to mention, Sins of the Father is an amazing track.

Looking forward to it 🙂🥲😭😡😁

Man. We are in for a long journey trying to wrap our heads around this franchise 🤯

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Long story short, it's all a metaphor for the players' psychological relationships with war games and cool characters (not kidding). MGS 1-5 explore that in various ways, while on the surface, there is a thick set of plots involving twists and turns and discussions on modern topics. (Modern at the time, mostly still relevant today. Some parts even moreso.) For maximum ease of playability and understanding of the plot, and minimum surprise spoilers, play the games in real-world order. MGS 1,2,3,4,5. Following the in-game chronology (as others often suggest) would be different, and that would take away the effect of not knowing the answers until they are revealed in a satisfying way. The prequels are actually answering questions left open on purpose in earlier games, and without that shock from the revelation, given on queue, the effect is mostly lost. It's like being told Darth Vader is Luke's father before you even meet Luke Skywalker. The Empire Strikes Back is almost entirely wasted then.

Best list

Thanks for sharing both lists with us 😀

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames No problem! Enjoy :)

It’s pretty amazing 🤩

Glad you enjoyed reaction and good rec in checking this out 🙂😀 We like that the message is heavy anti war

Kojima is always meta with his games, he's stated that the game is feature complete so I wouldn't be surprised if it feels unfinished on purpose to live up to what you said, the feeling of having something taken away and it feeling like it should still be there.

@@alexanderson4497 This just seems like cope. The reality is that Konami sabotaged him and pushed him out before he could complete the game.

@@mechanomics2649 But...but...Pachinko machines!

That’s a nice way of looking at it 🙂

That codec call and the conversation just before the final boss fight (you know the one) shaped the very beginnings of my philosophy on the role of government at a very young age. Of course, as time moves on, things change, and the reasoning becomes more complex and reasoned, but the core belief remains the same. Kojima, in about five minutes of game dialogue, lays out one of the strongest socio-political treatises I've ever heard... As a freakin' PLOT POINT.

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Thanks! Sad the game couldn’t get a proper finish 😢

Per Kojima in interviews, he said it was complete. To many of us who were fans of the earlier titles, it feels like something was missing from the story, in the same way an amputee still feels the missing limb. And people are still talking about MGSV over 7 years after its original release. Well done Kojima-san 👏

It’s definitely a trailer that grabs your attention 🤩

A legendary series we need to check out more on. Speaking of legendary, nice profile pic. 😜 Love me some Boston ☺️😎🤟

Thanks for the recommendation 😀

It’s reviews like this that get us really excited to check out more 🙂

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Does indeed sound like a wholesome game ☺️

Yay! 🥳🥳😀🤗

Thank you! 🙂🥳

Our pleasure 🤗🙂

We plan to explore those series more 🙂

We have had that channel recommended in the past and will eventually check out some of their work. 🙂😇

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Oh great, looking forward to it! 👍

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😂 well at least there was some justification 😜

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And the last one: Revengeance

Thanks for giving the order 🙂

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames no problem👍

Looking forward to checking out more from it 🙂

Haha, appreciate the support for us playing this and struggling through 😅

That’s a clever marketing campaign 🙂 and we have now been converted to experience this in release order vs chronologically 😇

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames that is a very wise decision. MGS3, a true masterpiece, will be exponentially better for you this way. I cannot imagine starting with that one and missing out on everything it foreshadows. I can't wait for more videos. It was fun watching you react. Nice work.

Yeah, Lee Van Cleef was the inspiration for Ocelot. Kojima took a lot from the Dollars Trilogy, which you could find throughout the entire saga.

Nice! 🤠

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Thanks for letting us know 😇

My favorite interview Kojima has done was when people asked him if he'd consider taking MGS if someone bought it from Konami and offered to GIVE it to him: "No, I don't think I would."

Lots of love for Revengeance 🙂

Death Stranding was just as good. But then he moved to California and said he was just making movies from now on... Curse Konami and curse Sony for driving an auteur like him out of his chosen field.

@@acrab6527 He just teamed up with Microsoft to make an exclusive game for the Xbox/Windows.

We are looking into it 🙂

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Which one is this ground zeros or phantom pain?🤔

@@kojomensah8036 both but especially phantom pain, if the main character has a metal horn stuck in his forehead it's phantom pain and if not it's ground zeroes

Thanks for the order 😀

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames you're welcome!

Confusion is a natural state for us so we are prepared 😜

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Goosebumps for u what u said am gonna play this game...✌

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The opening scenes in hospital is the best ever happened in modern video gaming

Interesting 🤔

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Thanks for giving us some more info on this 🙂

I think you've got some stuff mixed up. The Boss was the female soldier and commando who trained Naked Snake, who as part of a convoluted spy mission had to kill the Boss and the president then gave Naked Snake the title Big Boss. Big Boss was then cloned, making Solidus, a perfect clone, and then Liquid with all the dominant genes and Solid with all the recessive genes. Ocelot was the biological son of the Boss and raised by the Patriots to be their enforcer. Ocelot eventually teamed up with Naked Snake/Big Boss. Then Big Boss made one of his soldiers his body double, Venom Snake/Punished Snake, to draw the attention of XOF. Venom Snake is the character in MGSV you play who interacts with Eli/Liquid Snake. Liquid and Solid both became members of FOXHOUND while Solidus became a warlord in Africa and then the President of the US. Solid would ultimately kill Venom Snake/Punished Snake in Outer Heaven with Big Boss finally dropped his ruse and tried to create a nation of soldiers. Then Solid 'killed' Big Boss in Zanzibar Land. Liquid then tries the same thing and is killed by Solid via the FOXDIE virus the government created to kill Big Boss and his progeny. Solidus then tries the same thing again, and is killed by Raiden, his adoptive son. Ocelot brainwashes himself to believe he is Liquid as part of a scheme to bring down the Patriots and ultimately does so, dying to FOXDIE after being beaten by Solid Snake. Big Boss then reveals he's alive and he used the body of Solidus to fake his death. He has a heart to heart with Solid Snake and dies of FOXDIE at peace at the grave of the Boss. Solid then lives his few remaining years in peace. The Boss reunites with her love the Sorrow in the afterlife. Venom Snake/Punished Snake reunites with his love Quiet the same way. So even in death people get a happy ending. I left A LOT out but that is most of what you said with the mistakes fixed. Lot of similar sounding names can get confusing, along with people claiming to be each other.

Brother you mixed so much up lmao

We have that trailer in our request list 🙂

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames okie dokie!

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Thanks for letting us know the order and that we can skip the spin-offs 🙂

😎🤟 stealth games aren’t for us but we want to check out the story 😀

Justification is always key 🙂

Have you seen the 12 hour saga movie? 🤔

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Haven't had the time to finish it yet but i am going through it 🙂

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Like that elevator pitch of days of our lives meets call of duty 🙂😀

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames hideo Kojima was the man that made the metal gear series and he has always done amazing story telling. Just how vast the story covered from all of the metal gear games. But I hope you guys react to the story of the games, always like seeing the faces of people discovering the metal gear universe.

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We plan to check that out as well 😇

We will get to it eventually 🙂

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Thanks for the reminder and the cheeseburger 😋🥳

Sounds good. We’ve been convinced with enough comments saying release order 🙂

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