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Metal vs Wooden Attic Ladders | What's the difference? 

Belinda Carr
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0:00 Introduction
0:33 Metal Attic Ladder
4:49 Wooden Attic Ladder
7:03 Conclusion
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@timmargereson332
@timmargereson332 2 года назад
Hi Belinda, I've fitted over 20 of the timber Fakro loft hatches in the UK. I usually fit these on my own and the easiest way to fit them is to remove the ladder , lift the frame into the loft and rest it down onto battens fitted under the opening. Square the frame and fix into position then remove the battens, fit the ladder. Remember to adjust the ladder away from the door & then cut to length. Finally install new architrave. Hope that helps someone. Regards Tim
@The4Crawler
@The4Crawler 2 года назад
When I installed my wooden Fakro ladder, my technique was to use a chain hoist fastened to the underside of the rafters in the attic. Then I climbed on top and hoisted myself and the ladder up. I had a pair of boards under the unit to pull it up tight to the ceiling. Got a few good fasteners in, then partially lowered the ladder and finished attaching it to the framing. I made sure to have all my tools up in the attic along with a phone in case I got trapped. In the cramped hallway where I installed it, having multiple people helping would have made the job more difficult. Funny thing is, in the 25 years prior to installing the ladder, I think I poked my head into the attic twice. Since installing it 10 yrs. ago, I'm up there many times a week. I added insulation (had paid a company to do that but they did a horrible job as I later found out), decking and low voltage lighting to facilitate using the space.
@swiftarrow9
@swiftarrow9 2 года назад
Love the videos, but based on your summary I would have chosen the wooden one. - fire safety (especially important if installing in a garage) - R value (especially important when installing in the house) - folding steps (accessible to little people) The detractions you mentioned are easily managed: - replace the string with a hook point - add threaded rod on each corner for easy adjustment (nope, I’m too lazy to do this as well and would probably use your non-recommended method, LOL) I’m also very disappointed about the MDF. MDF is not a dynamically stable material: it flexes, cracks, and has no fatigue strength. The correct part would have been plywood. If I ever do buy one of these, I’ll have to replace the MDF with plywood preemptively. Thanks again and keep up the great work! I’ve learned a lot from your videos and it’s helped me make the right choices for my own home remodel.
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
My husband preferred the wooden ladder too! I was disappointed with the MDF panel on both of them. Thanks for watching the video!
@peterchaploutskiy2555
@peterchaploutskiy2555 3 месяца назад
@@BelindaCarr that's what I also leaning too, wooden is the better way to go. Anyway, much appreciate your work!
@dlorien7306
@dlorien7306 2 года назад
You know it's a good, fair review when you'd choose the one she didn't pick as the winner because of the facts she provided and your own personal preferences / situation
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
Thank you!
@givemeaminutetothink
@givemeaminutetothink 2 года назад
I didn’t even know metal ladders were an option, never having had to replace one. Neat!
@paulkelly2882
@paulkelly2882 2 года назад
Shouting the orders at the boyfriend like a boss was so funny
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 2 года назад
Boyfriend? That's her lucky hubby!
@ezforsaken
@ezforsaken 2 года назад
lmao, we know she is the tough one
@serenasmith6412
@serenasmith6412 2 года назад
I've used that tone a time or two! DIY projects are great with the person you love, but there might be a hurt feeling to go with that feeling of achievement!
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
Guilty!
@JimOlney
@JimOlney Год назад
I installed the metal version of this attic ladder and couldn't have been happier. In our case the prefinished hatch was unblemished. The 30" version provided a comfortable opening to access the attic. And when climbing the ladder there is plenty to hold on to. To get bulky or heavy items into the attic, I installed an "I bolt" to a rafter above the open and hooked up a snatch block to easily maneuver stuff into storage.
@dirtymikeandtheboyz2570
@dirtymikeandtheboyz2570 Год назад
Can u show me in pics ?
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Год назад
I installed an aluminum ladder to reach my garage attic. I think I would have been happier with wood for two reasons. 1) wood is quieter. 2) wood is warmer to the touch.
@pfcrow
@pfcrow 2 года назад
I replaced a broken wooden ladder with a metal one back in 2009. My ladder looks exactly like the wooden style one you installed, only the ladder is aluminum. It feels extremely strong. The ladder was too long, so it required cutting with a hacksaw to adjust the height. I am very happy with the ladder. I ordered it from one of the big box hardware stores.
@568843daw
@568843daw 2 месяца назад
Excellent installation demonstration and your analysis comparing them was very helpful.
@jotighe2
@jotighe2 2 года назад
I love your videos. You are easily the most informed person about these industries than anyone presenting today. You mentioned the price ($$$!) of this unit and valued it based on durability and replacability. However, you initially confirmed this is one of the least used items in any home, and it is bar-none the first time I saw one replaced. Given those facts, I would rather put $1100 in another area of the house, rather than something I will use 3 times in my life.
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
Thank you! It's an expensive upgrade.
@buildergradetocustommade
@buildergradetocustommade 2 года назад
Thank you. This has cemented my decision - I'm paying someone to install mine! lol
@scott.c9587
@scott.c9587 Год назад
I wish you had this video when I installed my new attic ladder last year. I replaced my old ladder with an aluminum one with shocks instead of springs. You are awesome. please keep up the great work.
@johnfilce9236
@johnfilce9236 2 года назад
The scissors version is appealing to me because we have very limited space in the room where our wooden version can barely unfold.
@75blackviking
@75blackviking 11 месяцев назад
The more I see of your channel, the more I enjoy it. You have so many great topics!
@ziggystardog
@ziggystardog 2 года назад
These were shockingly expensive to me. I’d never had to replace one. Interesting puzzle on how to install them, I think they are usually just installed at build time. My present house doesn’t have an attic, but I could use something in my garage-style shed.
@genoangelica1354
@genoangelica1354 2 года назад
Your carpentry skills uninstalling those two attic ladder quite impressive I put one up myself and it was quite difficult great video
@lowrads3653
@lowrads3653 2 года назад
Your warcry is formidable.
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
Lol!
@herculesrockefeller8969
@herculesrockefeller8969 2 года назад
Nicely done! Thank you, Belinda!
@ex-engineer6657
@ex-engineer6657 2 года назад
Seemed like a regular, wonderful, video as we have grown accustomed to. You do good work. When you got to the prices, I really felt my age. Last time I looked at attic ladders, they were less than $100, about $75 for the one I wanted. Wow.
@serenasmith6412
@serenasmith6412 2 года назад
I replaced one last year, metal regular rungs from the home improvement store. $275. I love this metal scissor idea, but with the ladder stowed, it looks like it could be 25x30 instead of the 54 inch length. I would pay more for the smaller opening!
@rass1959
@rass1959 7 месяцев назад
You did a great great job the first time I’ve ever seen to do it yourself or that wasn’t a craftsman that compared to and installed to. You did an excellent job in compare and contrast the two different products. Thank you.
@scottgillard4695
@scottgillard4695 Год назад
Thank You Belinda good review. If I did it with my wife there would be lots of Bleeping. Good teamwork.😃
@GreenAppelPie
@GreenAppelPie 2 года назад
I was unhappy with American styles and got one from the UK. It’s very sturdy aluminum telescoping ladder. You have to add your own door, and it’s easily insulated.
@MinnesotaBeekeeper
@MinnesotaBeekeeper 2 года назад
Thank you so much! We are putting one in and this was very helpful.
@SnoDraken
@SnoDraken 6 месяцев назад
Great video, with useful info. Thanks for making this!!
@d73w80
@d73w80 Год назад
One thing I've never even remotely thought about was my attic ladder... But now I'm intrigued
@ryanbrown982
@ryanbrown982 Год назад
I went with a telescoping aluminum ladder. It's secured up in the attic, and then it's pulled down with a hook. It came with hinges and a latch for a door that you create yourself out of plywood you supply. It has as much (or as little) insulation as you choose to add to the door. The install was pretty straightforward. Since the door is separate, there's no massive assembly to hold into place. The cost was also much better; I paid less than $200 (pre-pandemic inflation.)
@nctrailcam81
@nctrailcam81 2 года назад
That was great. I'll have to look into the metal ladder. I need a new one, but I have a raised ceiling and am afraid I would not be able to fold the ladder up. But the hook would be perfect.
@Fartucus
@Fartucus 2 года назад
Always look forward to your vids, thanks.
@jameshutchins3396
@jameshutchins3396 2 года назад
Excellent video as always. Thank you
@enriquegarciacota3914
@enriquegarciacota3914 2 года назад
Getting hands dirty on this one! Respect. Attics aren’t as usual in my area so I doubt I will ever need this knowledge, but it was entertaining.
@theodoreolson8529
@theodoreolson8529 Год назад
This project will really test a marriage 🙂 Thanks for your hard work making this video. It's relevant to me because I am considering adding a ladder in my garage to access overhead storage.
@603storm
@603storm 2 года назад
The attic ladder I installed allowed you to remove the ladder from the frame. This way you can easily install the frame without the heavy ladder and work from below. Then, after the frame was installed you snapped the ladder in place. Easy Peezy.
@snort455
@snort455 4 месяца назад
A terrific video. Thank you.
@eyeliketony
@eyeliketony 2 года назад
I’ll stick with my old wooden ladder. It has metal bracing under each wooden rung that I can tighten if the wood shrinks. I feel safer if one should ever break. The metal ladder looks like it doesn’t have any lateral stability.
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 2 года назад
Also wider is better. Those ladders are always to small at some point...
@SteveP-vm1uc
@SteveP-vm1uc 2 года назад
I have installed many attic stairways and did then exactly as you did the wooden one in your garage. There is always 2 of us and we have never had a second ladder way to get into the attic, so one of us is always in the attic to receive it and screw it into place. We allllllways mount them flush with the ceiling and add trim after it's installed and then foam spray insulation to fill the voids.. Also, long before they made a handle and eyelet and only sold them with a thin rope, we installed chrome eyelets and used simple wooden broom handles with a Jacobs hook screwed into the end. I guess we should have patented that!! Hahahahaha...
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 2 года назад
My father put one up about 40 years ago and it came with a chrome eyelet. He put up a wood celling at the same time and blended the door in so well it's hard to see. But then he thought the chrome eyelet was sticking out so he didn't want to use it. While looking for something less obvious he just tapped a nail in it and put a bend to it. Turned out it was small enough and the color neutral enough that most people don't notice it, and so it has remained for 40 years now. They did provide a stick with a hook on to pull the door down, but I haven't had to use it since I turned 17 or so as I am tall enough to reach that nail. But both mom and dad were short enough they had to use it. I've often looked at that nail and thought there has to be something more elegant to use, but in the end I've accepted that while it might look strange to someone who sees it those are so few and far between that it really doesn't matter.
@lakeshavallejo7889
@lakeshavallejo7889 11 месяцев назад
Great video! Thank you!
@quantafreeze
@quantafreeze 2 года назад
Great video. Thanks!
@josegr6174
@josegr6174 Год назад
Hi Belinda! This information is really useful and even more for me as I'm planning to build an A-frame house with a loft that will use a ladder, but unfortunately i couldn't find videos on RU-vid about the advantages and throwbacks of this kind of houses. Could you please cover this topic???
@CTChipmunk
@CTChipmunk 6 месяцев назад
you're a ladder day saint.
@hueandeye
@hueandeye 2 года назад
Construction Mommy making life easier again....😩
@RogierYou
@RogierYou 2 года назад
Ah so we are not the only ones yelling during a DIY project ;-) LOL
@dfgatticladder622
@dfgatticladder622 Год назад
I like your video very much. As a factory of attic ladder, I think both metal ladder and wooden ladder have their own advantages. The metal ladder can be opened and closed with assistance. It is relatively easy to operate and more durable. The requirements for the hole are not so strict. The minimum size of the hole can be 600 * 800mm. The stability of the wooden ladder is high, and the wooden products look more comfortable, However, the wood products have the potential of fracture for a long time. I think metal is better in terms of safety
@Redrally
@Redrally 2 года назад
Yes, more Belinda tries out DIY items 😁
@tinytonymaloney7832
@tinytonymaloney7832 Год назад
You have a better quality of loft ladders over there in USA than we have in UK, but a $1000 for a loft ladder, Wow!!! Nothing wrong with your method of supporting the wooden ladder using timber straps, its called initiative. I always pilot holes in wood before I drive a screw in, call it OCD I don't know, just something I always have done. Cracking pair of pins btw 👍
@CyberstormFox
@CyberstormFox 2 года назад
But what's the advantage of a separate, losable tool to open your attic? Does it contain an opener tool holder you can snap the tool into when not in use? Seems like you will have to now keep track of a probably seldom-used and easily misplaced purpose-specific tool.
@flinx
@flinx 2 года назад
Maybe there's a linen closet near the ladder. Keep the tool there forever. But if someone doesn't have a closet near or can't trust their family to leave the tool in it, don't buy that ladder.
@answerman9933
@answerman9933 2 года назад
Maybe the ladder tool can be kept next to the water meter tool?
@unclethanatos
@unclethanatos 2 года назад
I’m looking forward to the inevitable video on encapsulating your attic.
@thegenrl
@thegenrl 2 года назад
I agree metal ladder seems the way to go. $1000 for what it is seems over priced though. I feel i can def rig up something cheaper that's equivalent or better.
@karolkowalski3842
@karolkowalski3842 2 года назад
FAKRO looking good to me 😅
@metrazol
@metrazol Год назад
Your garage looks like my primary bedroom until last week. You don't realize how heavy rockwool is until you're on the 10th bag going up stairs...
@tonythomas4647
@tonythomas4647 Год назад
New sub! Great content. ❤️
@maxbooker307
@maxbooker307 2 года назад
I LOVE YOUR MIND AND UNDERSTANDING OF BUILDING SCIENCES! A WOMAN I COULD TALK TO ALL DAY...
@marcusdavis8650
@marcusdavis8650 Год назад
Hi Belinda I really like this video and I like both ladders because I need one for my garage and my attic in the house but sense now you have had these ladders for a while what is your overall take, do you still prefer the metal. By the way, I really enjoy watching all your videos. You give a lot of great information and I really learn a lot from the renovations.
@KevinGoldfinger
@KevinGoldfinger 10 месяцев назад
Hi! saw a video of yours about insulation and had solar paint included. Which is that video? Cant seen to find it.
@georgemallard4120
@georgemallard4120 2 года назад
You are brave to attempt this DIY upgrade. I did the same, but I used a chain hoist to lift the ladder into the attic. Any time you have an opening the size of an attic ladderway, it is a big time fall hazard. That being said, I had a friend fall due to an older wooden ladder failure, and it really messed him up. The ladders shown are very expensive. But the metal trim is a feature I really liked.
@sheiladawg1664
@sheiladawg1664 Год назад
I had a new wooden one fail the 1st time it supported weight. If the side rails aren't fastened together correctly at the butt ends during manufacture (a gap is present) the first time it bears weight it will rip the bolt straight through the drilled hole into thin air and you'll be on your derierrier surrounded by kindling before you know what happened. Watching you guys struggle lifting that up makes it hard to believe I did this myself in my early 30's.
@salvadorgonzalez4642
@salvadorgonzalez4642 12 дней назад
Hi Belinda, which one is your favorite now that you have lived with both for a while? Does the metal stairs wobble from side to side? Does the width of the steps become an issue when lifting heavy objects?
@Blake4625kHz
@Blake4625kHz 2 года назад
There was this one time I had to punch an attic ladder in the face for payment overdue. Lived in Texas at the time and just did what everybody else was doing. I didn't know any better and now feel sorry for attic ladders black eye I gave said attic ladder. Attic is a weird word
@jillrossiter8757
@jillrossiter8757 6 месяцев назад
Great!!!!
@chrisforker7487
@chrisforker7487 2 года назад
I like the metal ladder, hopefully I can buy enough extra steps for my 12 foot ceiling.
@TheOldBlackCrow
@TheOldBlackCrow 2 года назад
Perfect timing! We are shopping for one now. Your video answered many questions we had. Thank you! Does the kit include the extra rungs on the metal ladder or is that a separate purchase?
@ecospider5
@ecospider5 2 года назад
They sell them in different lengths. So if you get the longest supported one then you will have all you need. Not sure how to get extras if you buy one that’s to short. But I can’t imagine it would be hard.
@robcarpenter385
@robcarpenter385 4 месяца назад
My mom wanted to know what's the brand of your floors?. She loves that look
@fredflickinger643
@fredflickinger643 2 года назад
Hard to believe they couldn't keep them as wide as the older models and oh, MDF.
@reallunacy
@reallunacy 5 месяцев назад
And here I am looking at a $260 Louisville aluminum attic ladder.
@erichaskell
@erichaskell 2 года назад
Because my ceilings are all “cathedral” I don’t need ladders, just help with my heating and air conditioning bills!
@YSLRD
@YSLRD 2 года назад
Lol. Pretty fierce when you're working.
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
Lol yup!
@currentfaves65
@currentfaves65 2 года назад
Excellent review. I did not know metal was an option !
@leahsdreams
@leahsdreams 2 года назад
With prices like those, I might just have a 'decorative' wooden ladder hanging around to use.
@Helloverlord
@Helloverlord 2 года назад
Althou Fakro is a quality company, nether of those product do not contribute to sealing insulation as there's none within the hatch. It doesnt matter if you in a mild climate zone but for others its a no win.
@Xhadowgdm
@Xhadowgdm Год назад
There are much more reasonably priced options out there. Thanks for the vid though.
@johnwestbrook2476
@johnwestbrook2476 2 года назад
Hi Belinda. Aluminium loft ladders are a lot lot easier to install and much easier to operate.
@vincentbarkley9121
@vincentbarkley9121 2 года назад
Belinda, another great video. At over $1000 each, I'll just use a folding ladder for my garage.
@Machailey1
@Machailey1 8 месяцев назад
Your "BOSSY". Hahaha so is my wife though.
@EvilPlanetStudios
@EvilPlanetStudios Год назад
I am glad a professional uses Ryobi. I No longer feel so much like an idiot amateur. If she does it, then it must be good.
@sivacrom
@sivacrom 2 года назад
If only I had seen this 3 years ago. Back then, I replaced my entire scuttle door. And there’s no ladder included. I could’ve done this whole thing then. Now… I’m never going to fit it in.
@Danny_Boel
@Danny_Boel 2 года назад
wow, the fancy metal one cost twice as much as here... was it made in the Netherlands or Poland?
@marksadventures3889
@marksadventures3889 2 года назад
Are you planning to convert your loft?
@Youtubehandle.
@Youtubehandle. Год назад
The ladders you received (Free of charge) may have been ladders the could not sell because they were damaged.
@Zacht1980
@Zacht1980 Месяц назад
If anyone was wondering, the difference is one is metal and the other is wood.
@DonTruman
@DonTruman Год назад
So it's essentially a 3 man installation job? Two to lift it into place and then another in the attic to secure it? (I presume most homes have only one attic access, not two). Yikes. And over $1k for each. That's a lot more than I expected. Guess I haven't priced them for a long time.
@BoEkingster
@BoEkingster Месяц назад
you're awesome
@BillyBoy7380
@BillyBoy7380 Год назад
Why do you fold the stairs all up on one end? Just move the hook things down a bit.
@tojov
@tojov 11 месяцев назад
I wish to buy one for my home in kerala. How can i avail it. The attic size is 59.5 × 29.5 inches.
@rawbacon
@rawbacon 6 месяцев назад
These prices are insane, 25 years ago I bought an attic ladder for something like $29 or $39 dollars.....And sure these are a little better but they ain't that much better.
@benjaminfraeyman
@benjaminfraeyman 2 года назад
Whats that messy white stuff in the attic?
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
Blown-in fiberglass insulation. The previous owners recently had it done.
@benjaminfraeyman
@benjaminfraeyman 2 года назад
@@BelindaCarr so messy. Looks like its just thrown in there. Isn't it supposed to stick to the walls?
@anthonyhitchings1051
@anthonyhitchings1051 7 месяцев назад
We replaced our failing wood fold down attic ladder with the same thing in aluminum
@troychampion
@troychampion Год назад
"now I didn't have a rope, so I used another method that I will not show" LOL and btw... omg.. I paid about $250 for my wood ladder myself *(with a rope). I couldn't imagine having to pay so much for my next one.
@SashkoBljad
@SashkoBljad 2 года назад
Belinda, please review SeedEco Home designed by Opensource Ecology team. They seem to have thought about the things you usually criticize on this channel about eco homes: materials that have to be transported fro far away like with shipping containers if built inland, labor, cost or skill intensivess of a build, unscalability of a design for example because of use of non-uniform parts from a dumpster. I thing Seed Eco Home has these problems solved but am curious to hear what would you say.
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
Thanks for the idea! I'll look into it.
@mr.x1510
@mr.x1510 2 года назад
Yes I think I like the metal ladders as well. I'm still curious do you feel any kind of sagging as your climbing them? This is your design looks interesting however I'm curious if they Loose It Up After Time
@joblo341
@joblo341 8 месяцев назад
I tried to install a wooden attic ladder. 2 of the *&_)(_)^&^% things broke after they were installed, dropping half way to the attic, almost hurting me! I gave up, put a MDF sheet over hole as a door and glued foam insulation on the attic side. I use a regular ladder to get in. I installed an eye bolt in the baseboard and tie a rope to the ladder to keep it from slipping. I didn't see a metal option at the time.
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood Год назад
Holy fish, a grand for a ladder?
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 2 года назад
Dang ... this channel just gets better and better. A beautiful woman, college educated, excellent communicator, AND can do construction work! What a dream! As for the ladders, I never even knew metal ladders existed! In previous residences my small attics were accessed by the traditional pull down wood ladders (with the classic hanging string) and no insulation. Fortunately my current home doesn't have an attic so this is no longer an issue. I'm all about ease of construction so the steel one looks like a pretty nifty option. In either case, though, this is definitely a two-person project. On the down side, if there is no second access to the attic, a third person will be needed to be stationed in the attic before raising the new steel one up, as there will be no way to get in and secure it afterwards. It seems heavier than it needs to be - why in the world didn't they fashion it out of aluminium instead? Also, this is definitely a spring or fall project in Texas, maybe even a winter one!
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
Thank you! We installed this right before temps hit 90F
@JGoodwin
@JGoodwin 2 года назад
I'm lazy. I would have put the ladder fully in the attic, used a second ladder to go into the same hole, then lower it down and attach it, with someone below me to verify it doesn't look weird.
@PamirTea
@PamirTea 2 года назад
Woah, that metal ladder cost a pretty penny.
@cdoublejj
@cdoublejj Год назад
a thousand bucks for that hinky little chinesy wobbly scissor sheet metal piece? i my dad like a full folding aluminum unit but, i'd have to ask how much he paid when he got it a local big box store all those years back.
@ecospider5
@ecospider5 2 года назад
I looked at adding an attic ladder to my attic access hatch. I learned that the new code changes what code requirements there are in an attic if a permanent ladder allows access. Especially with electrical and spray foam. Spray foam has to be covered in an area with a permanent ladder. So I scrapped that idea. But before I did the metal ladder you used was definitely one of my favorites. Especially because there were versions that could fit into a very small access hatch.
@ecospider5
@ecospider5 2 года назад
I live in Seattle so there is almost never any hvac in the attic to deal with.
@apex007
@apex007 2 года назад
These cost over 3x as much as the standard ones. Even including the lighter aluminum ones at home depot. Do you think they're worth over 3x the price?
@safffff1000
@safffff1000 2 года назад
Fortunately there are ladders like that for 1/4th the price
@PacoOtis
@PacoOtis 2 года назад
Those prices are vulgar!
@rtugui
@rtugui 2 года назад
Less weight if you would install the frame without the steps :P
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr 2 года назад
If I could have, I would have!
@rtugui
@rtugui 2 года назад
@@BelindaCarr oh... ooookkkkkkkkkk. Would like to know what other people say about that. Anyone?
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 2 года назад
Are there no ladders available to fit your existing ceiling openings? How do you think you would have accomplished this if you didnt have a second attic access? It seems very frustrating that the MDF doors of _both_ attic stairs are broken upon installation. 🙁 Maybe the manufacturer should consider using a better quality product? (its not too much area, given the price)
@gman8760
@gman8760 2 года назад
I would never ever buy one of these just based on cost alone....
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