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Does the Boss Metal Zone really sound better if you put it in the loop of an amp instead of in-front? Ryan experiments with it and makes bold statements about the subject. Are you still reading the description? Good for you, reading and everything, I'm proud of you.
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@simonbrunner3062
@simonbrunner3062 5 лет назад
I just dug up the manual of my MT-2. It just says connect the OUTPUT jack to a guitar amplifier, without specifying whether to use the Input jack or the FX return. There are however detailed instructions on how and in which order to operate the EQ controls, which many of us probably should have read first before dialing in an awful tone and then complaining about how much the pedal sucks.
@brycedadevil2146
@brycedadevil2146 4 года назад
Simon Brunner I can vouch. This comment made me dig up my old manual too...at a glance it seemed like I already knew what was going on..but man was I wrong 😂 the ‘Sample Settings’ section is worth a look as well!
@zedzero77
@zedzero77 4 года назад
Thing is, boss knew that the smaller amps didn't have fx loops. And today we wouldn't have the shredders we have today if the instructions said put it in the loop.
@Jay-cr6mx
@Jay-cr6mx 4 года назад
I read this and got my manual. The heavy medal "settings" were better than the way I was using it for months. Thanks!
@mykneeshurt8393
@mykneeshurt8393 4 года назад
right. I love this pedal because I know how to read. This pedal has always ruled in my world.
@dildojizzbaggins6969
@dildojizzbaggins6969 3 года назад
@@Jay-cr6mx Careful! Heavy medals weigh you down! D:
@ChrisFranklyn
@ChrisFranklyn 5 лет назад
There's loads of "preamp" pedals now... seems Boss via accident or purpose got there 25 years ago :)
@Dallen9
@Dallen9 5 лет назад
Yeah sadly this was a thing. And it took 25 years before anyone actually tried to see if it was actually true.
@glenn1975
@glenn1975 5 лет назад
I had a Two Notes Le Lead for a while. Sounded like total shit unless it was going into an FX return. Then it was tits. But nowhere else.
@isbirwan
@isbirwan 5 лет назад
Maybe the boss factory forgot to put the note "preamp pedal only" inside the box..#wondering
@MrBlonday
@MrBlonday 5 лет назад
Hell yeah, I run a tube screamer custom to a custom messa clone amp in a pedal, thru a suppressor right in my fx loop to the front of the amp. The thing is fricken beastly. Loads better than before my amps preamp
@dudearlo
@dudearlo 5 лет назад
just threw the metal muff into the fx return of the micro dark, :D sounds like a mesa now
@apeekaboo
@apeekaboo 5 лет назад
In Soviet Russia the Metal Zone sucks you.
@johnstitt2615
@johnstitt2615 5 лет назад
apeekaboo you must buy MT-2 or GULAG. In Soviet Russia MT-2 sells.
@johnstitt2615
@johnstitt2615 5 лет назад
In Russia is where great amp designer resides....Mercuriall......pass it on
@TheAlperolli
@TheAlperolli 5 лет назад
Yerasov rocks :)
@therealjackfisher
@therealjackfisher 5 лет назад
In soviet russia they did not have Metal Zone. I come from soviet countrys and a soviet era.. We made our own guitars, our own FX, our own amps. Buying a western amp was IMPOSSIBLE! So how did these slavic metal bands get the sound?? They fucking made their own pedal or hi gain amp!
@dagoat2636
@dagoat2636 5 лет назад
Oooooo that sounds noice
@denisorourke4444
@denisorourke4444 4 года назад
This is the most honest review of the MT-2. Some people may not like having to run it through the return, but in studio applications, it's a great tone to have in your arsenal when you want it.
@omarbell4579
@omarbell4579 5 лет назад
I pray for some pedal builder to make an op-amp Big Muff with the MZ EQ.
@GabrielGAS1201
@GabrielGAS1201 5 лет назад
now we're getting somewhere
@ETILHK54
@ETILHK54 5 лет назад
Could be done, but i personally not a huge fan of it's eq, parametric part has too much space, which makes it hard to control, i would limit it's potential a bit and add bandwidth pot, and treble/bass i would replace with bandaxall (just because it's awesome).
@svdj80
@svdj80 5 лет назад
Stone Deaf´s fig fumb got quite good EQ capabilities I think.
@Smurfman256
@Smurfman256 2 года назад
Put a tube screamer in front of your big muff. Really helps with that mid scoop and the insane low-end a BMP tends to have.
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 3 года назад
I saw the original demo. When he said he was running it into his loop, in immediately thought "why the hell would you do that for? Of course THAT'S goin to sound terrible." As soon as he hit the first chord, my jaw dropped. I don't play that type of music, but it sounded great.
@maxwellwinter2114
@maxwellwinter2114 5 лет назад
Yeah! I’ve been doing it through the loop for years! Using it as a preamp makes it live up to its name!
@kiltymacbagpipe
@kiltymacbagpipe 5 лет назад
I thought the original video was interesting too. Running it into the effect return does make it sound better in my opinion, but that EQ is super powerful so it’s easy to make it suck.
@Slears
@Slears 5 лет назад
lol..Ola really started a thing here
@dirtyharry1881
@dirtyharry1881 5 лет назад
Yeah. Pretty much a historic video.
@Slears
@Slears 5 лет назад
na meanwhile I saw Brian Wamplers Vid on using Distortion Pedals as preamps...it was uploaded in march this year - watch?v=nRoBDmO2oGI&t
@bastianmaoro8278
@bastianmaoro8278 5 лет назад
Absolutely not. I ever use my Metal Zone straight into a Carvin PowerAMp. It's a old thing.
@thatsameenergy
@thatsameenergy 4 года назад
No, cannibal corpse and crowbar started something.
@Graiskye
@Graiskye 5 лет назад
One of the coolest things about the pedal, in this particular instance, is that it physically changes the way you play guitar. Look at the end of the video, Ive never seen you look like that while you play, you take on a meaner surlier look, all thanks to the MT2
@umokay1991
@umokay1991 3 года назад
The alternative band Placebo from the EU got the Metal Zone right. Funny, they didn't bother shredding or chugging, they just dialed in the right settings for them and it sounds freaking amazing.
@N16HTM4RE
@N16HTM4RE 2 года назад
That's a very fun fact. Thank you.
@Grimoire6666
@Grimoire6666 Год назад
Great band! Didn’t know they used metal zone
@roosterj2599
@roosterj2599 5 лет назад
I have been using a Metal Zone for many years. I run direct into it and I run my 7 band EQ after that. It's been the main source of my tone and sound and will always be.
@danielcollins8306
@danielcollins8306 Год назад
Do you run into the front or in the loop?
@nickvallemusic
@nickvallemusic Год назад
I do the EXACT same thing... and it sounded MUCH better after adding the EQ with it...
@nickvallemusic
@nickvallemusic Год назад
@@danielcollins8306 I ran it into the front
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic Год назад
I checked the manual. It specifically tells you to put it in the front of your amp.
@nazarenomerino9142
@nazarenomerino9142 22 дня назад
Best description ever of how distortion sounds in my head! I wish I was a graphic designer to interpret that
@moparbryan
@moparbryan 5 лет назад
I’ve used a MT2 into a korg Pandora for quiet practice for years using it more like this as a “channel” for an amp vs a dirt box into a dirty channel. I also back the gain off quite a bit and get a pretty good sound out of it. Also when I was young and seriously broke I used it straight into an old pioneer stereo receiver as I didn’t have an amp it actually sounded really good that way.
@kingdomfirst7895
@kingdomfirst7895 3 года назад
Great demo and accurate review This was my first pedal and although I matured out of it, I still keep it in my pedal line up on my board.
@JustinChampa
@JustinChampa 5 лет назад
I’m neither a fan or a hater of the Metal Zone, but most people play these things with the distortion level well past 12:00, or even cranked, which leads to the fizzy bees sound. It has plenty of distortion, so keeping it below 12:00 is a great first step towards better tone.
@LFC-Star
@LFC-Star 4 года назад
the "fizzy bees" sound is because people wrongly have been putting the pedal in the front of the amp via the Input. Instead of the FX Return.
@juggernogjones6054
@juggernogjones6054 4 года назад
I was impressed with the metal tone I got out of mine. I now use the distortion on my 6505 head as my daily rig.. But if I need an ultra portable setup for jamming, I can carry the metalzone and my tc gmajor anywhere that has a practise amp or even just a hi-fi, and I can moreorless mirror my main setup. Very useful
@Ottophil
@Ottophil 2 года назад
Same!
@jean-sebastienauge304
@jean-sebastienauge304 5 лет назад
You sounded really good! Great video, I just feel a bit sorry for the other video where I said that the signal path was wrong x) Keep rocking :)
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 лет назад
its a bummer anytime i have to redo a video.
@ravenblack7434
@ravenblack7434 8 месяцев назад
I can’t believe I’ve been doing it wrong all these decades! Thank you!😅
@TheBarnaway
@TheBarnaway Месяц назад
Lo has estado haciendo bien, porque por el loop de efectos van los pedales de modulación, no la distorsión, es solo que este pedal funciona mejor por el loop de efectos.
@Johnny-oy9fh
@Johnny-oy9fh 3 года назад
Very powerful eq...so you have to be careful tweeking the tone. Sounds awesome into anything set right...love it...🎸
@Richard-rk7zi
@Richard-rk7zi 5 лет назад
Classic Marilyn Manson Tone was all about the MT-2, Electro Harmonix Sovetek "(Green)" Bigmuff PI, as well as a DOD Bass Grunge pedal. I love the old Manson sound. Most of the groups I like were always using Boss pedals. So, for me though many hate the MT-2, it is a pedal I find quite useful.Great video, keep up the great work.
@blacktoothfox677
@blacktoothfox677 2 года назад
Gonna try this tomorrow... Super interesting. Only been using one for around 30years I guess it's normal I wouldn't have got around to it yet....!!!!🍀 Best regards from the UK 🍀
@patrickmcgee8556
@patrickmcgee8556 3 месяца назад
i bought one when it first came out....still have it and its still one of my favorites
@paniccleo
@paniccleo 5 лет назад
Wonder what the HM2 sounds like when bypassing a pre-amp now.
@koffieverslaafde627
@koffieverslaafde627 5 лет назад
Deet Cologon hmmmm
@H_A_R_M
@H_A_R_M 5 лет назад
Done that with its clone, the Behringer HM300! All I can say is WOW! 🤘
@LFC-Star
@LFC-Star 4 года назад
BOSS DS1 is another that sounds brittle and harsh through the front of an amp.. I expect through the FX loop it'll sound much thicker.. Perhaps then we shouldn't plug in effetcts pedals at all into the input of a guitar amp but through the FX Loop of a guitar amp?
@DowntunedDevil
@DowntunedDevil 3 года назад
This just blew my mind....
@paniccleo
@paniccleo 3 года назад
@@LFC-Star Nah, there's still heaps of good things that come from running effects in front. Boosting preamp gain comes to mind.
@user-hp8rr8je7v
@user-hp8rr8je7v Год назад
The Metal Zone is a magnificent pedal, one of a kind like everything from Boss. an ideal pedal for Extreme Metal. Boss is the BEST.
@wyldeyouth
@wyldeyouth 5 месяцев назад
uhm... what about HM-2?
@ETILHK54
@ETILHK54 5 лет назад
Makes sense, plugging staight nto the power amp gives additional headroom, it also bypasses the eq, on the other hand you should be able to get similar results with super clean amp, or rather amp set super clean.
@chuwy2k
@chuwy2k 5 лет назад
I think that “the trick” of this heavy distortion pedal is run directly through the return fx loop, but you can use it at the front of the Amp with a little bit of EQ: 8 to 10 o’clock (treble, middle and bass) & 9 to 12 o’clock for input volume should be perfect.
@matthewbryant2972
@matthewbryant2972 2 года назад
I got a Marshall DSL1... and running a metal zone into the return. It's pretty hilarious, and awesome. 1 Watt Metal Zone is what's up.
@ChristBurner
@ChristBurner 5 лет назад
9:37 "This one's for you Morph!" best animated series ;)
@Breaker197
@Breaker197 5 лет назад
THE X-MEN RIFF AT THE END! SUBBED!
@AlanElias350
@AlanElias350 5 лет назад
Im trying this right now with another distortion pedal into the return of my blackfire 200 I get no sound from it going into the return. My conectiin is as follows. Guitar to ht blackfire pedal to blackfire 200 return. No sound at all. Whats wrong here?
@voxpathfinder15r
@voxpathfinder15r 5 лет назад
I wonder if this pedal is similar to the DS-1 in regards to what I discovered, you need to use a guitar with very low output pickups, the input of the DS-1 hates everything coming into it that is hotter. I will also try the DS-1 into the effects return
@chriswakfer4473
@chriswakfer4473 4 года назад
Would this work with similarly chainsawy distortion pedals? I have a fullbore kicking around and wanna try this with that
@glenncooper3524
@glenncooper3524 5 лет назад
I had no idea about the straight into return thing. I remember I always wanted to try my effects loop but only had 2 cords
@LFC-Star
@LFC-Star 4 года назад
maybe you should put all your pedals through it?
@ZachComa
@ZachComa 5 лет назад
When I was a wee lad, I'd pair one with a GE-7 in the loop of my Peavey Transtube 212 and it worked decently. I never put it in front of the amp...
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 лет назад
I used to put a dod 10 band eq in the loop of my transtube bandit 112, such a great line of amps.
@kronbakeren
@kronbakeren 5 лет назад
Thanx for great video ! How would u connect it, if you were playing a rack .. jmp 1 and power amp .. ?
@larslevinberget9558
@larslevinberget9558 5 лет назад
This I found out 20 years ago, but held tight. Peavey VTM60 stacks are the key here...they love Boss pedals!
@gilbertostefan
@gilbertostefan 3 года назад
Is there any problem or dammage to combo if a distortion pedal is used insted return, in send spot? Sounded better to me in my setup but i am afraid with any dammage. I am pretty inexperient in this guitar area. Thanks if someone could informe me!
@stuartchapman5171
@stuartchapman5171 2 года назад
I have the Digit ech Metal Machine, I bought it for self oscillation feedback loops. It's also great as a distortion on acoustic instruments and drone synthetic. Apparently is unloved by many guitarists for bad tone. I saw someone recently run it in the effects loop and it had a great sound. I have loads of effects and audio junk from charity shops that I repair for soundscape experimental work. Most stuff won't work together, especially in the same way a (heavily post) produced tuber video does. The trick is pairing and understanding how the gear works and the make up of its sound. Then you get the magic. As our Lord Miles Davies once said, it's all in the tone.
@DavidDexterMusic
@DavidDexterMusic 5 лет назад
Here's what I've found with my amps and my pedals and my ears.... Every high gain / heavy distortion I own sounds a lot better in the FX Return. Every overdrive I have sounds better direct in the input.
@Macrohard_On_Fire
@Macrohard_On_Fire 4 года назад
Do you plug the metal zone just directly into the return without using the send ?
@Cole-ek7fh
@Cole-ek7fh 4 года назад
@@Macrohard_On_Fire yes.
@LFC-Star
@LFC-Star 4 года назад
you've contradicted yourself there.. which is it? @David Dexter
@christisgod3354
@christisgod3354 5 лет назад
I just ran my Metal Muff into the return on my Bugera G5. Very different sound. I think I like it. It has a lot more bass , but it isn't too muddy.
@InTheSh8
@InTheSh8 5 лет назад
Most Dirt-pedals will not sound good in the return. But it's always worth a try, of course. If it's not suitable you will usually end up with a weaker tone and in most of the cases a cut of the high frequencies. This is what I experienced. The real problem is that you don't really have a usable clean tone. It will be very direct, PU into Poweramp.
@clintn6677
@clintn6677 5 лет назад
By going into the return you are basically just using a power amp. The flip side is you can bypass a solid state power amp with using the send of your effects loop to return of another amp. Great for adding power to a lunch box amp
@TheJMan1K
@TheJMan1K 5 лет назад
What does the metal sound like with it just in the loop and the guitar plugged into the front?
@acecomet
@acecomet 11 месяцев назад
Play that pedal in the 90s and i want to try that experiment. just bought used one for cheap. Will try tomorow
@ChadKanotz
@ChadKanotz 5 лет назад
Off to try this at home...maybe it'll make my Mesa Stiletto actually sound good.
@DowntunedDevil
@DowntunedDevil 3 года назад
I know this is 2 years old...but how did it sound
@ChadKanotz
@ChadKanotz 3 года назад
@@DowntunedDevil Tell ya what, I'll make some time to hook it back up and record an A/B comparison for you.
@Bleats_Sinodai
@Bleats_Sinodai 5 лет назад
Considering how much gain this pedal has, it makes sense to use it on the return.
@KeniWilliams
@KeniWilliams 2 года назад
Many years ago I had the Boss HM-1 Pedal. I wish I didn't get rid of it now. It's near impossible to find these days. Anyhow, I hated the sound of it until I threw it into the return of the effects loop. And there it was, that classic heavy metal with no sucky mush 🤘😛🤘
@Linux4UnMe
@Linux4UnMe 5 лет назад
The problem I have with plugging it into the loop return is that I lose about HALF my volume on both clean and distortion even when volume is all the way up on the amp AND the pedal. Can anybody else confirm this???
@Mr549er
@Mr549er 4 года назад
yep its bypassed FX loops are for modulation delays etc etc
@jacksybicki7330
@jacksybicki7330 4 года назад
I have this pedal any pedal with level control can be played this way and you can achieve the exact same tone by adjusting the level knob either way you plug it in but line in will go further toward the angry wasp sound
@t-boog2173
@t-boog2173 4 года назад
My best friend treats the Metal Zone like the Discover card... He never leaves home without it. I always found with enough tweaking, you can get some great Metal rhythm sounds. However, I nicknamed it, "The Harmonic Thief". No matter where I set it's Eq, Vol & Gain or the amps controls(and trust me, I've tried every possible setting a hundred times over), the high harmonics, esp pinch harmonics, just went bye bye. I never tried the loop though. I'm sure that would've only helped.
@rakistastuffs7094
@rakistastuffs7094 2 года назад
Hello, i have a fernandes fa15 guitar amp with an 8ohm speaker, i suspect 35watts, not sure because it doesn't say anywhere. Can i replace it with an 8ohm 50watt speaker or with a higher watt like 80 or 100watt?
@oldmanandguitar
@oldmanandguitar Месяц назад
I noticed a different sound when going into the fx loop return with my pedal. Two reasons are the clean channel we use for pedals on most amps will give a broken, slightly distorted sound at higher volumes, the fx return does not seem to do this, second, when going through the fx loop return my reverb is bypassed, I liked the sound difference going through the loop except losing the reverb.
@OzziePete1
@OzziePete1 5 лет назад
Sounded good through the Peavey FX Loop. Maybe try a FRFR amp/speaker combo & see how THAT goes through the FX Loop?
@XChristianNoirX
@XChristianNoirX 5 лет назад
You can use it as a boost in front of an amp, provided you know how to actually use a parametric EQ and how to set it for boost use.
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic Год назад
It cuts that high end that people seem to hate so much. That box of bees effect. I kinda dig that nastiness but I gotta admit, it sounds amazing in the loop.
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions 5 лет назад
I think a metal zone often sounds bad into a fender preamp due to the lack of mids and the high end, one person that uses a metal zone and ive always liked is Craig Nicholls from The Vines tone and he uses Marshall Super Lead which of course doesnt have the same high end and plenty of mids.
@bryand.5240
@bryand.5240 5 лет назад
Ryan Waste from Municipal Waste uses a metalzone through a 2203 JCM800, Mesa Dual Rec and Randal RG100H
@StevenEveral
@StevenEveral 5 лет назад
I bought one of these pedals back in 2008 and was never really able to get a decent sound out of it. I only found out about this whole 'plug it into the loop return' in the past month. Now I gotta get a hold of one of these pedals before they go up in value. Or, I could get a regular 'preamp distortion' pedal like a sane individual.
@beamerstrumpet
@beamerstrumpet 3 года назад
Or go with a Berhinger UM300
@leftyfusion88
@leftyfusion88 5 лет назад
You should plug that Pink Flaming'er shirt into the effects loop!!! I'll bet that will drive the hell out of that amp!! Nice video.
@InternetTRex
@InternetTRex 5 лет назад
I've never used one, but I can promise that 11 year old beginner guitarist me would have plugged a metal zone straight into the front of an amp and loved every second.
@acidbath3226
@acidbath3226 5 лет назад
i got a modded metal zone i liked it so much. it was a mod from pedal hackers based on the combined tonal experience that particular builder had. sounds like a 6505 with a good tube preamp
@Ottophil
@Ottophil 2 года назад
I have a 6505, and end up using a metalzone into my fender twin. It isnt quite as good at distortion, but I’m able to get way better cleans now
@bastianmaoro8278
@bastianmaoro8278 5 лет назад
Does it bypass the preamp of the amplifier even if the pedal is turned off if they are only plugged directly into the return? Thanks.
@angelofaraday5280
@angelofaraday5280 5 лет назад
Yes. The return is a power amp input only and runs wide open on amps with no master volume. When you "turn off" the pedal, the volume knob on your guitar will be your amps master volume, so if you have your guitar volume on 10, and switch the pedal to clean, you'll blow your hair back! 😀 If your amp has a master volume, then the volume will be limited by that obviously.
@danieltravis5082
@danieltravis5082 5 лет назад
Very interesting man.
@Dylanm94
@Dylanm94 5 лет назад
Sounds pretty good like this
@SeanK1998
@SeanK1998 4 года назад
I have a metal zone and I run it in the fx loop of my peavey too and sounds sick. But a problem surfaces when you wanna play a song like an justice for all where the clean tone is blaring and when you engage the pedal you get the right volume. Really annoying bc everyone I talk to says it’s supposed to be in front of the amp so yea that’ll fix the volume issue but then the distorted sound will sound like dogshit:/
@spottedsaint957
@spottedsaint957 3 года назад
Will the Metal Zone pedal work as a fuzz pedal like the HM 2?
@icenhour76
@icenhour76 5 лет назад
As bad a wrap as the metal zone gets 16 year old me with my peavey rage 158 practice amp never once regretted owning it. Even after that when i moved up to a marshall valvestate 1 x12 combo it was still alright to use as a clean boost to pump that straight up into prime thrash territory and still fun to just crank up and bask in the angry bees. Not to mention back in those days it was the metal zone grunge distortion and the death metal distortion if ya wanted heavy distortion.
@markoxford81
@markoxford81 5 лет назад
Holy Shit... I had to check to see if I wrote this comment...haha. I had the same setup (MZ + Rage), and then moved to a Valvestate 1x12. I also never regretted it. I'm sad that I've sold it long ago.
@icenhour76
@icenhour76 5 лет назад
yeah man didn't know how good that valvestate was till it was gone my self .
@silviascolaro6937
@silviascolaro6937 5 лет назад
The mt2 cannot do clean boost even with the gain knob zeroed it still breaks up
@icenhour76
@icenhour76 5 лет назад
you are kinda right it was never sparkly clean that is also why it took the marshall from like rage against the machine gain to slayer territory. More overdrive than clean boost maybe but i thought it was much closer to a clean boost than an overdrive it for sure wasn't meant to be used that way but it sounded good at the time.
@Slothclawcolseslaw
@Slothclawcolseslaw 5 лет назад
Ha! I had the same start too! But my valvestate was a 100 watt head and a 4x12 fender cab that a builder who was working on my parents house gave me. Two of the speakers were blown and all of the pots on the amp were crackly, but I loved it none the less!
@bloodmoney80
@bloodmoney80 5 лет назад
With my joyo zombie I found the metal zone sounds better plugged into the front of the amp then it does in the return. I didn't want to tweak any of my knobs though.
@zombiemontage
@zombiemontage 3 года назад
Maybe because it needs a valve power amp to push in order to sound good
@bloodmoney80
@bloodmoney80 3 года назад
@@zombiemontage with other amps that I've tried I've found the metal zone sounded better through the return. With the joyo it's not so, to my ears anyway. I think it has more to do with the joyo return than the metal zone.
@WickedFesterBand
@WickedFesterBand 5 лет назад
If you think about it, the Metal Zone is like a preamp with the 4 band EQ and all. What do you know! Sounds pretty good.
@McAdamstry
@McAdamstry Год назад
Hi there. Great video! So I have a mustang gtx100 and a metal zone. The pedal isn’t great through it as there is a preset that sounds much better. But I tried it through the effects loop and it was horrible. Any chance this is because it’s a modelling amp? Keen to know if anyone else has tried it.
@joaohenriques9750
@joaohenriques9750 3 года назад
It's amazing how no one seems to know how to set the knobs correctly. Let's use a clock for reference. Low to half past one, high to one o'clock, mid freq to 12 o'clock, middle ever so slightly before noon, dist to one o'clock. Straight into the return fx loop. Have fun! The middle dial is super, super sensitive and slight adjustments will change the sound completely.
@cortinoias
@cortinoias 4 года назад
There's a capacitor labeled C35 on the main board of the metal zone. Removing this cap vastly improves the tone!
@ceoofworldpeace8901
@ceoofworldpeace8901 4 года назад
Do you have to replace it or just toss it?
@cortinoias
@cortinoias 4 года назад
@@ceoofworldpeace8901 just toss it, or keep it should you wish to undo the mod. Don't bridge the two empty solder points either, it somehow works like that.
@joseislanio8910
@joseislanio8910 2 года назад
Also, replace the clipping diodes with LEDs. It'll be much better, like a proco rat on steroids
@cortinoias
@cortinoias 2 года назад
@@joseislanio8910 I'll have to try that!
@VSPhotfries
@VSPhotfries 5 лет назад
I always wanted a METUL ZOOONE just to have one (good and bad are all relative to use, and I like 'bad' equipment a lot), but used this way it practically gave me a whole new amp to play around with. Now I have my original generic EVH clone AND a super high-gain whatever-you-wanna-compare-it-to amp for what ended up to be $50! Hell, my cheap amp's preamp can be a pseudo-overdrive and/or get into ridiculous, experimental noise territory cranked up when driving the MT-2, but, strangely, doesn't sound as good the other way around. Design mistake or not, I love the MT-2 fx loop phenomenon.
@nickm6001
@nickm6001 5 лет назад
First pedal I got was a behringer UM300, basically a copy of the MT-2 and I have stopped using it because the fizzy noise but now my whole pedal collection consist of distortion and 1 flanger pedal
@ilovemurder8983
@ilovemurder8983 2 года назад
Effects loop(send to effects to return) vs direct to effects return only... Any difference?
@homebaked1731
@homebaked1731 5 лет назад
I was going to to sell my metal zone. Guess its time to give it another shot
@LFC-Star
@LFC-Star 4 года назад
especially if you've an FX loop in your amp :).
@florianpoulin7108
@florianpoulin7108 4 года назад
It's totally normal that the sound is bigger : the clean preamps adds an eq to the sound, especially some trebble and presence. By bypassing the preamp, you bypass an eq section and the sound is fater. But in counterpart, you have no clean, or a bad and non ajustable clean tone, and the volume of the transistor pedal+poweramp instead of the volume of pedal+preamp+poweramp. I'm not sure the volume of transistor would be as correct as a tube volume when pushed high. Perhaps the alternative could be to take an eq post distortion and to set it in order to revert what the preamp eq does (cutting some bass and some trebble) to get the same flat sound as in the loop but with more tube volume (?).
@refractorymercury
@refractorymercury 3 года назад
Metal zone requires the good path that kills the bee attack. I ended to use it on the drive channel rather than clearn one. Also requires a speaker able to cope with metal tone. Had a Peavey Bandit 112 that supported well this pedal with its Scorpion speaker. Tried it on some bluesy stuff and it sucks of course any any high gain sounding preamp.
@jeshely
@jeshely 5 лет назад
Not all effects loop are created equal. Hight quality loops with High Impedance / dB line level select will give you better options to experiment.
@sidequestplays4768
@sidequestplays4768 3 года назад
Gotta love the X men riff at the end.
@raphaelisaac7479
@raphaelisaac7479 Год назад
in my opinion, it just so happens that it works better on the loop of the amp, but i think that boss never intended to use it as a preamp cause distortion pedals back in the day are meant to be in front of the amp
@benjamineisenhofer8174
@benjamineisenhofer8174 3 года назад
Love the dinosaurs! ❤️
@DSilvergun
@DSilvergun 4 года назад
So output from pedal to return on amp and guitar cable into pedal input?
@brandonvon3774
@brandonvon3774 4 года назад
One cable to the SEND of the effects loop > INPUT of the pedal. Take another cable to the OUTPUT of the pedal > RETURN of the effects loop. You''ll plug your guitar in to the front of the amp like normal. Activate the pedal, let it rip.
@fuckenps3
@fuckenps3 3 года назад
I found I didn't get the expected results when using the send. It did work going from guitar->pedal->return though. Bypassing the entire preamp section of the amp. So... YMMV?
@christineblack4654
@christineblack4654 3 года назад
it's missing real tube crunch dont you think? by the way we in the old days had the distortion at max on this and the thing no one is trying but was key back in the day was putting a Boss equalizer after the pedal, ;) and there you go. get it right people. and it was in front if I remember correctly. but the EQ made a huge boost and the difference was there, hope this helps.
@bluarcher5941
@bluarcher5941 Год назад
so what about the Send in the F/X loop? I'm missing something here...the Send and Return is the In and the Out...how are you hooking the pedal up? Did I miss something in your explanation? thanks.
@isolatedmortalityband5718
@isolatedmortalityband5718 Год назад
For Boss Katana users (100 obviously): Which of the amp settings (Brown, Lead, Crunch, etc.) does the pedal work on?
@marcelo.bassalo
@marcelo.bassalo 5 месяцев назад
Clean !
@db_on_drums
@db_on_drums 5 лет назад
the time this pedal was desingned they usualy hadnt preamps so it makes perfect sense, but who thinks of that. Anyways, great sound
@LFC-Star
@LFC-Star 4 года назад
so BOSS were ahead of their time with MT2.. :).. So with many amp's with an FX's loop would be hard rocking metal amp's :).
@zombiemontage
@zombiemontage 3 года назад
The Japanese man
@losangelesnefastvs
@losangelesnefastvs 5 лет назад
Awesome vid! Try this with a Roland JC-120, please.
@mykhedelic6471
@mykhedelic6471 2 года назад
The purple lava, that's what I'm looking for...
@marielibanez3507
@marielibanez3507 5 лет назад
Hi! Im Ariel. I want to share my experience with metal zone. I heard the full e.q. of the pedal when i used it on a bass amp believe me youll hear the scoop and experiment on radical deep tones coz of the amp. Same wth using an octaver. Use a bass amp. Try it and do a pod cast about this experiment.
@Jazzman2112op
@Jazzman2112op 4 года назад
i dont know for some reson its not working for me
@jimgonzalez4757
@jimgonzalez4757 5 лет назад
having doing this since 94 with all kinds of pedals & effects. bypassing the preamp avoids the original signal from being over processed hence the (angry bees in a can effect) lol.. i use the eq and te volume of my pedal as my preamp thats essentially what ur doing by bypassing the preamp anyways.. sounds thicker & more crunchy more of twhat the original sound was intended to sound like
@callsignscrottymcboogerballs88
Metal zone into the front is essentially a pre on top of pre amp , it's a no brainer that we all didn't think of :P
@gilbertogaspar2824
@gilbertogaspar2824 4 года назад
Well uhh you see, I bough the metal zone not knowing that I needed a fx return. And all I have is an amp. The metal zone is the only pedal that I have, what should I do?
@raycimbalnik5159
@raycimbalnik5159 5 лет назад
I dont get it,I've had one over 13 years and I love the way it sounds! The adjustments are VERY sensitive but mine sounds great. Also I really liked the way It sounded when you just plugged in the front. Maybe I'm tone deaf lol
@vyshawnforeman8384
@vyshawnforeman8384 Год назад
I run mine through the front, and the eq settings from the manual make a difference.
@davespin9034
@davespin9034 9 месяцев назад
I actually preferred the sound from the front too. I like the sharp growl. Through the effects loop it was warmer but lacked the cut in my view. I just bought one today. Itll be in front of my Marshall MG15 practice amp
@kingpriapatius5832
@kingpriapatius5832 3 года назад
One of THE BEST BOOST pedals out there.
@1969MARKETING
@1969MARKETING 4 года назад
I play a Mesa Flux Five in the front of my Mesa Mark Five 25...the most KILLER sound i've ever had from any rig i've owned.
@icedvengence3845
@icedvengence3845 5 лет назад
thought it looked different lol...now your going to have to pick up some Solar Guitars and do some reviews or something plug Ola some more
@txhc666
@txhc666 5 лет назад
Could you put a boost in front of the metal zone? Preamp boost
@Josbornevonosborne
@Josbornevonosborne 5 лет назад
Wow, sounded way better into the return...
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