Metallica: ...And Justice for All Interview with David Fricke 

Jason talks like everything is an answer to a psychology exam. I swear that man sees life like one giant Rorschach test.

he would be muted

It would be nice, but clearly they were sorta busy if they did it in the middle of a tour

Derek Knight tell me you’re kidding

@@derekknight9789 whos dave mustaine?

@@orestath3915 youre right...i thought Rob was in ST before 89..

@@JboCapone he was. Justice came out in 88. Newsted was on it and the next Black album. idk was orc 'stache is smoking.

I was thinking about that. My bet is Rob was a huge fan in 89 and gets giddy listening to them talk about those times (I know I would if in his position).

Nah hes cool with it. Dont forget hes a veteran also.

Rob has now been with them longer than anyone as far as being in the band, I know they are still tight with Jason.

LOL!

Lol

Lmao

similar to the bass tracks on justice

Genius lmfao

Yeah I listen closer when he talks

I'm curious about the riffs he wrote on the record.

He’s a good guy. Pretty awful player

I do the same but only with James!!

Kirk gets hate for no good reasons. He literally created some of the greatest riffs in metal history (master, creeping, enter, ride, etc.) has some incredible under appreciated solos that are quite amazing. The man gets hate for replacing Dave, and because of that people find anything to dig him under. He’s an incredible player and I’m fucking tired of the hate.

Easily 1 of the best songs off of that album.

Love that song

Hell yeah!! Its ups there with Damage inc., Disposable Heroes or Leper Messiah all my favorite tracks!!

Agreed

yeah I bet

Yes Kirk is very intuitive about things that Lars and James were too busy to notice because of their large egos at the time!

​​@@soychelly836 kirk has no ego, a very important part of being a creative

I agreed But... He focking quite dha band , he fôôôcking koueete dhaaa band.

@@rejeancomeau77 left*

@@coldvoid laaaft d'ha band

everybody knows that , depending on your age

Most mid-age fans have already known that Newsted wrote the main riff. Mindblow fact: Jason's bass was basically inaudible on the album, but he was given credit for the song, and duelly so. Think about it.

Yeah the solo in Eye of the Beholder is my all time favorite.

My favorite is Blackened solo.

The solo for One is probably my favourite guitar solo of all time.

The best. That was his highest point as a lead guitarist, imo. I get that he’s very Hendrix influenced, but the melodic passages he brought to Justice remain timeless.

The Shortest Straw is one of the most criminally underrated Metallica songs. It's in my top ten favorite songs of theirs and the solo is just a masterwork.

I dont think he knew, before the album was released

Kirk and Jason were together when the mixing happened with James and Lars. So I think that Jason and Kirk found out at the same time.

I'm read this at that exact part, and I agree.

Kirk has always been the humble and kind one which really kept them glued, I think.

I just want to put it out there, Jason's basslines WEREN'T removed or "silenced" in fact you can find them anywhere here on RU-vid. Jason's bass was ALWAYS there, it's just pretty much near damn inaudible because of the dry and incredibly compressed tone of the album James and Lars just flat out didn't know what the fuck they were doing when they were mixing (which Kirk and Jason were never around for) Also there's a GREAT Jason interview where he shed A LOT of light on that time period.

And Jason suggested to reverse it, which is awesome

Jason suggesting to reverse the intro was an idea I liken to divine intervention. Just insanely perfect

It's very similar to the overture to the beginning of Tie Your Mother Down (76) and Procession (74) by Queen.

@@hjonkhjonkamgoose no its not.

@@Nichwar19 I don't mean that they sound similar. I mean that they are both really good intros They said it's one of the greatest pieces ever, so I listed some other openings that are very good

C Rendon I’ve seen a video where the guy who mixed Justice tells the story of how the bass got removed, and it basically shows that Lars was lying through his teeth here. And Kirk knows it. The entire time Lars is talking about it, whenever the camera was on Kirk, he looked visibly upset about it. I think he felt it necessary to put that good word in for Jason. A genuinely great dude, that Kirk is.

@@shaunketterman2985 Yup, it's on RU-vid. Lars specifically told the production guy to turn the bass down to make it barely audible

@@shaunketterman2985 in fairness, he was partying a lot in those days. And it was thirty years ago. He might honestly not remember. Just saying.

Lars is as much of a shithead as Kirk is a prince.

@bowhunter 4 life ok, but i feel context matters there. He was stating what they felt AT THAT TIME, they were young drunk and angry. Substituting what basically is a brother with another guy that is basically unknown to them and ending a tour like that must have taken its toll. It's not like they despise him now in the present IMO

Yeah man..this interview is really, really good. It answers a lot of the questions that I have had about the album since it came out. I still remember getting my cassette. I was in elementary school , grade 3 i believe. It was my first Metallica album..since I was only 9 or 10. Until then, the heaviest thing I had in my tape and album collection was a Poison album. hehe This album blew my mind when it came out and I still love it. As a musician, I wish it had been recorded and mixed differently because it definitely could sound better (not to mention the bass), but would it still be Justice if it had been recorded and mixed differently? Do you know I mean? It kind of sounds like a 'lo-fi headphone' album, if you know I mean. It is hard to explain.

Yes ofcaus I enjoy them discussion lika child. Word to sunday would rather be weekly challenge discussion Thema off /on the week. Copyrights erster gesagt. Mariion ilona Ruth Holl.

I wish they would of went in depth on rtl or master like this. 15 minutes for MOP, but a hour an half for Justice?

@@michaelr.4878 I don't think i'd be the same album, had it been recorded and mixed differently. The way the album was made, combined with the circumstances the band was under, at that time, made justice what it is. Part of the ...and justice "legacy" (absence of bass, guitar tone, etc) heavily relies on how the album was made, and has shaped that metallica era to us fans' minds. Take as an example, all the re-adaptions of new songs to the justice tone, that fans have done recently.

See that look Kirk gives the host at 27:52 when he says AJFA is their most brutal record,,,.... I don't think Kirk liked that opinion... ?

i thought it was a WEAK RETREAD of the far-superior "BATTERY". (Heck, i'd argue the INTRO to Battery already beats Blackened!)

Dumpy Goodness are we just gonna ignore the fastest performance of whiplash ever though

@@dumpygoodness4086 lol have you seen the composition of blackened? Battery stands 0 chance.

@@mistersunshine1330 gtfo battery is killer, thise riffs are WAY more difficult than blackened. You can't be serious

corrupted peanut no they are not. Blackened is a much more technical songs with very demanding downstroke sessions. Have you ever even held a guitar in your hands?

Savage 1 he’s a clown from the 60’s man!!

He is

He sounds like a psychologist.

Is he one of the Ramone's?

@@brandonbeck758 he is David Fricke, Rolling Stone magazine editor.

1. ...And justice for all 2. Master of puppets 3. Ride the lighting 4. Black album 5. Hardwired 6 kill em all

Master of Puppets And Justice for All Ride The Lighting Black Garage Days Ep

I'd vote harvester of sorrow best Metallica song. number two the thing that should not be and number 3 the entire kill em all album.

Mine too. Friends argue Ride The Lightning is the best and they may be right but the soul of this album was my soul then and the feel of it was a perfect fit.

agree!

Thank you, no one seems to talking about how mature James is here. Everyone is so unforgiving, people just keeps bashing him over things and in the past.

@@justs_ true, he matured a lot and recognized that what they did was not right

@@Rico_71 what did they do?

@John James Sure the bass was audible before he fucked with the levels. He told the producer to drop all of Jason's levels and turn up the drums. He claims it was just supposed to be temporary but that is what ended up as the final mix. So the band obviously had to approve the final cut. Im sure Lars thought it was great considering his drums are high and front and center in the mix just like his narcissistic self likes to be. Now considering James holds equal weight in the band its a surprise he approved the mix as the guitars are fairly thin as well. Its begging for a bass level which really would add a much fuller and more dynamic overall sound to subpar production. I still love the album regardless of its faults.

@@hellfire8883 Um... the guitars on justice are known for being insanely fat. No idea why so many people keep saying this. It's like people lost their hearing in the past 20 years...

Yes Kirk seems to remember everything vividly. Lars just monopolizes the conversation without saying anything relevant or interesting 🤨 I noticed that at some parts Kirk wanted to say something but Lars just kept on blabbing 🤣

Kirk is my favorite to listen to also. Seems like a pretty nice dude.

my buddy and I used to laugh about the way kirk talks, hes like this in every single interview ive seen recorded. its like he speaks the way we all talk in our heads

I see pure love. And sure that again Lars does it wrong..I guess otherwise people do not dare to even comment in the first place😂😂😂😂😂

Lars, a living, breathing Thesaurus

JonManProductions Imagine the amount content it will have...oh well, I’m gonna wondering about that for about 3 years lol

as I said. all taped for screen feed shows from 91-93 tour will be available just live LiveMet shows.

Its gonna be the size of a fridge!

moscow 1991 on spotify, can't fucking wait, seattle 89 now so im already happy as a motherfucker

Moscow '91 remixed and remastered (with 17.9 surround sound of that crowd) would be epic to hear.

He focken left the band!

I agree

youre right but that would haven been akward

@@janne9002 well its already awkard rob beign there

Damn, I thought the same thing

Me too

Hey, thanks for clearing this up. I had to stop the video and look for comments on this exact thing. With James laughing and Kirk saying something "controversial", I thought this would turn into a huge diss to Jason. Also, I think Kirk missed the point a little. Prophetic? Yes, if said by a music critic. But this was their eventual band mate ( and/or friend?). I think he appreciated them a "little" more, than they did him.

He just wants to go run in the Santa Monica mountains

Wirsig Boys or crab walk on the Santa Monica beach

He's been with the band for almost 20 years. But whenever they get interview they have so much history that he seems to just joined the band a few weeks ago

@@tmrevenge yea but he's only been on 2 albums. And tgeyre not the prolific ones. Metallicas golden period is slightly over a decade from like 83-95. Amd I'd eben say up to 2000. Playing fuel on MTV and stuff solidified them to the next gen. I was born a year and a day after cliff died but my dad used to work out to and justice for all while I was in the playpen so it had some effect. I'm a drummer meathead haga

@@NintenDub i think rob has been on 3 albums if you count the metallica/ lou reed album

My thoughts exactly. Confirms that he was the right dude for the job.

Definitely Dyers Eve is probably one of if not my favorite hard fast hitting tracks off that album but that whole album kicks ass!! And honestly James is right they were fucking the tightest back around 88-89' live!! they sounded the best I've ever heard them back then

Amen

🤣🤣 I think the main reason he can deal with lars is cuz he is a good songwriter

@@ashhrefhkookncswejjbdeuknv4956 most people deal with alot of annoying people in their workplace without playing in Metallica. So its probably not the shittiest thing in life. James probably knows that. Without Lars, there would be no structure in that band today. Just James and alot off riffs. lol. They could kicked him out when cliff was still alive. Now its too late.

@@danglenzig Even back in the day they could not kick him out, cuz he owns the name of Metallica legally as far as I know.

@@larsulrich26ulrich42 No he didnt. In fact. There was discussion about kicking hes ass out on Master of puppets tour. Backed up by Scott Ian from anthrax who was touring with them. But it all changed when Cliff died.

Dan Bjeffe I know that story however, what Im saying is even back in puppets tour 86 they could not fire him due to legal issues.

He’s the true artist of the band

@@tomzadvydas1758 not even close

Me too Kirk is so intelligent ❤❤

rokridge The album is pretty messy and over-compressed, the tone sounds nice at first, but it gets tiring and ends up sounding brittle/thin. It was a very confusing and hard time for the band since they lost an essential band member. Honestly if Cliff was only injured and not killed, the band would’ve benefitted a whole lot with some advice from Cliff, since Jason became an iconic member with the band. Unfortunately, we can only imagine what could’ve been Justice with Cliff.....

Reactionary Hermit Well the album to this day is there most forgettable Thrash album from the 80s, the Band was too focused on sounding faster, more aggressive, and and more chaotic than their competitors, which harmed their trademark sound. The album’s themes are interesting and the sound does support its paranoid feeling the album radiates, but like I said the tone sounds just too brittle and at times soft.

@@chinahatchild3030 yes thank you!!!!! Finally someone else sees it, ajfa is great dint get me wrong but it does sound "brittle/thin" but people claim it as super heavy I dont understand that logic, MOP on the other hand is heavy with the chug chug chug riffs. My opinion but honestly thank you for saying that!

silent phantom Yes! Honestly Master of Puppets gives a claustrophobic feeling fitting with the themes the album talks about. Justice is too thin and brittle at times and makes the experience of listening it more a chore than a head banging session. Yes, Justice a great album but it’s Metallica’s least enjoyable thrash album from the 80s. I will say that mixing in Jason’s Bass does help it feel more heavy and aggressive.

very true!

Jason left the chat 17 years ago

HE FOCKING LEFT THE CHAT!

😂😂😂i just laughed so hard at this.

@@mikepuppetz9 EEEEUUUUGGG

@@mikepuppetz9 I nearly peed myself ahah

Aye

Hey man your channel is absolutely amazing!

Brother dear.. you are here? Im one of your fan and subscriber

Whos tom schultz

They do look similiar

Cliff would be pissed at them. He loved Kirk.

@@nataszasuarez6243 we all know that. He loved his band and the music he got to write while he was alive. People also need to remember than the best songs on Ride the Lighting and Master of Puppets were written by Kirk and Cliff *together* . I'm sure Cliff is just looking down from Heaven just waiting to slap Lars out of Lars.

@@cliffsweed9712 I'm sure of that too.

@@nataszasuarez6243 I know. But truth be told, someone needs to slap Lars and James out of Lars and James.

@@cliffsweed9712 Absolutely.

I got to see them in 88, 89, 92, 96, 98. And there is a vast difference in Metallica back then and now. Nothing against Trujillo but Newsted is the bass player and he was the heartbeat of the band. He kept Lars in tune and on time. Lars playing was never better. Now he's all over the place. They treated Newsted like a second class citizen and after 15 years he said im done with your bullshit and im out. They have never bern the same. And they are still good live because I've seen them twice with Trujillo but nowhere near the beast that was when Newsted destroyed Cities with them.

Wojtek Cymerys Lauracepeda

100% agreed with everything you said. I did too felt that vibe from kirk. At this point in their careers they can basically say anything soooo.. I would've said something else... although... this is 30 years ago...

Saw the Justice tour in Vancouver, and actually met Jason the night before down on Robson Street. The show was absolutely insane. One of the best shows I've seen of any band. Loved it. Compare that to, say, the Death Magnetic tour, and it just isn't the same thing anymore. Some things have matured and are better, but some stuff has been lost with time, too.

Well said.

LOL He totally does look like Tom Scholz😂

lol

Looks like he should get a typewriter and write horror novels

Lol good reference

Soon it’ll be up to Hulk Hogan level

Hahaha

It's almost black album Hetfield

I caught one of Jason's picks in 1997. It is truly an heirloom in my family as I cherish it to this very day.

@@Crakka78 awesome!

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You do know at the start of the interview Kirk said "How pathetic was that?" in response to Jason's quote? Also no, they never disrespected Jason. People have completely blown his situation out of proportion. He was only bullied during the first 6 months in the band, then Jason went on to say they always had a brotherly bond, and loved each other. Fun fact: James only kept Jason from doing his own project, because he was worried Jason would leave or grow apart from them. It sucks, and they didn't know any better about anything back then, but they did love each other. Lars and Jason still actively talk. In my opinion the mix had no malicious intent, and was probably just turned down since even before Jason joined the band James and Lars never liked bass unless it had a crazily played part, or an added solo. Even on their demo tapes they wrote "Turn bass down". None of this was really intended to hurt Jason. There are so many clips of the band joking around, yet somehow the fans can't see it as a harmless joke for the cameras, and take it too seriously, as if they were heavily insulting the man.

@@smarkmalark He said "prophetic" not ,pathetic.

@@smarkmalark PROPHETIC, not pathetic

@@vicfame3171 yeah... i think this guys mixed up some informations here

@@smarkmalark lol, wrong 😂

@Andrew Salter the reason why Jason had his bass turned down was because it canceled out Lars bass drum, you can hear the rhythm guitar just fine. You're right still

@Andrew Salter listen to Garage days 87 again and listen and notice you can't hear lars kick drum.

ya sooo??? it's there best recording ever!

I love the way Justice sounds! It's ferocious! The guitar tone is vicious!

if the mix wouldnt ruin it completly.

Agreed man! I get excited everytime I hear the blackened intro...

True

@@TubetakerBHV In 1988 I never heard one person complain about the mix. EVER.

@@CelestialWoodway Never talked to a bass player?

To me Puppets is their perfect masterpiece

St.Anger is their angriest and most real, but Justice is up there too

No St anger is not their angriest or most real, just because the title has anger in it doesn't make it angrier. Justice was right after their brother died, they were pissed off at the world. I can feel much more angst on Justice. St anger is underrated though. Everyone seems to think only the snare sound matters.

@@danmeme7740 No I get you but I think St.Anger is their angriest. I don't think it is because of the name. Nothing makes me want to beat something like St.Anger does. Justice is right up there, and I get it. But St.Anger is up there because of Jason leaving and James leaving rehab. There's a good energy of anger right there bro

It's angrier because when Jason left they felt like they lost a brother again, only they felt guilty for it, that makes it stronger.

Please tell me it didnt develop into a taste for Korn, SOAD, or Slipknot. People that say they like those bands are not true metal fans. Idk what those crappy bands are but thats not metal. Its some other genre

I'm sorry about your loss my dude ! Much love ! Keep it real, keep rocking !

The same thing that Jason Newstead was doing..Putting up with these egotistical douchebags for a sweet,sweet paycheck.Eventually,even that wasn't enough for Newstead to tolerate these chancers.Considering the insane amount of money that they make,that should really tell you something!

@@neilpeartspurplenose8739 damn if you hate metallica so much why are you here

@@smugcat723 I just hate Hetfield and Ulrich.Rob,Jason,and Kirk are cool.So was Cliff.Besides,Metallica is a great band,but it's leaders are notorious assholes.

LMAO

He probably has a LOT of moments like that.

hm? Where is this said precisely? He did comment a bit on "Frayed", but didn't hear a specific mention that HE was the one to suggest playing it.

they jammed frayed on justice tour but james didnt know how to sing on that song, same goes to eye of the beholder... james sounded horible

Well duh

Killer solos. The production of the album did not do then any justice just like Jason’s bass

they probably asked him but refused.

I don't think so, to me they didn't even asked him

I don't think they have any major problems anymore. They've played together in recent years. I'm sure if they had asked him and he felt like it, he would have came.

HE FOCKING LEFT THE FOCKING BAND

Jason isn’t even in the band anymore. Hasn’t been for a while.

they were always good mates and still are as far as I know

I think it's due to the fact that Kirk belonged to Jason more warmth and humanity.

He always sounds like he's gonna cry🤣🤣🤣

Kirk was always the nice guy in the band so I'm sure it bothered him when Jason quit. James and Lars were like - fuck him.

Lol he dont give a fk it was decades ago…

unlike the new Album...

What he says is understandable. The songs were so long and full of so many parts that it would have been easy to get lost in all the bits and pieces. Mapping out arrangements is helpful, especially with intricate songs.

@Mick Doolan any beginner could do better than Kirk in 2016. No one could do better than Kirk in the 80's.

He wrote a lot of riffs in that album, given that he's a cowriter on several songs.

@@kartikchandrasekhar4181 Kirk has contributed to many, many songs. To confirm this just look up the songs that he has co-writing credit on. Next, for the people who put down his playing on hard-wired. If you watch the "in the making of" video's you will see that he played what was requested, which was mostly all improv. On one of those videos, he a brought in a multilayered demo idea that he wanted to record over the lead section of a song ( and it sounded awesome) Lars shot it down, wanting the solos to stay raw and uncomplicated. I have played Guitar since getting inspired by Metallica in the early 80's. These days I can play anything that I hear. So I will say with confidence that Kirk maybe is not as passionate as he used to be. But trust that he could blow most people away on guitar if he wanted to. Plus, He still has aggressive chops, just listen to his solo on the recent Exodus album

the title is MY SHARONA - The Knack

@@martinkulizaWTF? 1 letter off!?!

Rob joining Metallica thinking that finally i may be able to play Stairway To Heaven and My Sharona on a stadium.

Martin Kuliza you really are a weirdo ..

@@martinkuliza actually it was my scrotum ..the sack

I really doubt that Jason would want to be there, stuck doing a 90 minute interview to promote a tour he won't be appearing on. Doing press is an obligation for bands, not their idea of fun.

I think they still hate Jason Newsted.

@@vvmaster2010 He was right to leave. The band went downhill drastically after Justice. They became more terrible with each album. That's not what Jason signed up for. He probably missed the REAL Metallica and couldn't stand watching them destroy themselves with the shit music they play now.

@@bassage13 They are notorious assholes,that's why he really left.Like the old saying goes,never meet your heroes.

@@vvmaster2010 He had the audacity to reject them,thier massive egos took a hit.I'm sure they didn't like it one bit.Kind of like a wife that finally leaves her abusive husband when she's finally had enough of his shit."How dare SHE leave US"!

Because they are the decision makers. If Kirk wanted in, he would step in. You can't have too many strong minds in a band, it can create chaos. Some are louder, some quiter, etc...

Poor kirk. Getting paid millions to keep his ego in check. I trade places with him in a heartbeat.

Kirk Hammet. Silent, but deadly.

Or maybe Kirk doesn't want to talk too much

Please also remember that Kirk has always been the quiet one in the band. He’s never really said much, regardless of how much less his ego is compared to Lars and James :)

it amazes me how heavy that album is for standard tuning.

Many forget that Obituary's Slowly We Rot is in standard too.

Heaviest standard tuning? Ok now that's going too far dont get carried away, if ANYTHING that's ride the lightning buddy

Or anything early Sepultura

The fan mixes are heavier.

They buried their grief and Jason’s hazing and punishment was the way it came out unfortunately. I think when it came to the bass tracks on the album they didn’t want to to deal with it, because that was Cliff’s thing, so they buried that too. It wasn’t right, and the way they treated Jason wasn’t right, but I think they know that now.

You have to take to consideration that they didnt know what to do after cliff died and they started getting drunk to relieve the pain of cliff passing

Bullshit

Right on, I totally agree, especially the fact Jason was fucking dedicated to a T

It's well known that the other guys (James especially) hated how much of a fan Jason was. A lot of the time Jason would just play along to whatever James was doing, to the point of James turning around so he couldn't see what he was playing. In stark contrast to Cliff, who was very much an older brother type of person to the other members, and would have original ideas and influence them heavily in their playing. Jason was just this replacement who was following them around, doing whatever they were doing and was a fanboy to boot. I think those things contributed to them turning down his bass in the mix, to get a reaction out of him. To see if he would stand up for himself and tell them to turn it up again.

Such an underrated comment

Rob .... ''hold on a minute while i go to the store to buy some whip craame... put it all over your bottay''

The whole interview summed up!

Also Fricke: "LOGIC"

I was in 8th grade, bought my cassette from Hills dept. store in Bflo, NY. Listened to it over and over and over...And guess what? NOBODY back then said shit about the bass!!

Damn that ribbon tape must be hella loose by now lol

I had the tape and the words wore off the side. It sounded like it was gonna fall apart in its last days. I had the records Too and they were scratched all to hell. Finally got it on cd next and that actually made it a little further

@@troy4340 I have cassettes from the 1970's that my Uncle gave me, still sound brand new. Analog man!!

@@funeralbillii9172 We were just excited to get a new Metallica record. The bass debate didn't pick up steam until the Black album.

Zachary Martin that exactly 100percent true

Wow this is true?

Lol

Yep its true. His name is Metallica And Justice For All Mustaine.

Just kidding its Justis David Mustaine.

Ride and Master are both better

Same here man, specifically the song "one" which, Justice was literally the first cassette tape that I ever bought in my life , which I bought in early 1995, bought it right before my 13th birthday. That album started me into a lifelong love for all music , especially metal, and more specifically especially Metallica, as well as a love for playing the guitar and metal music. Today at 39 I still listen to Metallica abouts just as much as I did back then , always make sure I make a few minutes in my everyday to listen to at least a few songs , puts me in the right place.

Same here bro. I remember when my neighboor came with double album at home!

:/

he didnt say annything much... only excuses he was not cliff? of course he wasnt... james him self is not cliff or jason. why didnt they fired jason when he wasnt good enough and he was fan and that was a bad thing? that doesnt make any sense to me.. too keep your band mate in a band just so you can bully him because that makes you fell good. james have comlex of a god. i can see that the way he sits and his anoying laugh.. he doesnt remember how he was when he was a teenager.. just a punk

they admited it and even though the album continues to dont have bass

​​@@4md17hey had to continue as a band, anyone else would have gotten shit from them. They explained it perfectly.. they were young, sad, hurt from what happened. Anger is a part of grieving.. they just so happened to direct it at Jason unfortunately. It's not like they kicked his ass everyday, call it what you want but he took it all the way to the bank. When he signed, he never had to worry about money again.

@@4md17 Cliff was James his best friend, very clearly visible in an interview with James and Cliff here on YT. and to be honest, i love james, as a singer, guitarist, and human being, and without trying to justify how they all were treating Jason: i get it.. James still has issues coping with the loss of Cliff. Because of that loss, James never slowed down with alcohol and i guess he kind of has a really bad attitude if he is wasted. Venting his anger he had over the loss of Cliff out on Jason.. every time.. i think james' alcohol addiction would never had happened if Cliff was still around.

@@ukrainica9121 james is now sober, old and suposed to be mature. but he isnt. he is mocking jason in that interview , obviously.

Cause he knows everything Lars is saying is bullshit and you can tell it bothers him.

nah he always makes that face. its just the way his face rests. highly doubt he's mad about anything

Nah Kirk is pissed off, it's obvious.

@@admwalkgmailcom Doris is the band's nickname for their lady justice statue they had on the Justice tour that would crumble at the end of the show...so now they just call her Doris when referring to the image from the album.

Halloween 🎃. Hutid. Home

Yeah he knows everything Lars is saying is bullshit and you can tell it bothers him.

St anger happened

Yep, I think Bob was seeing the dollar signs just as much as Metallica was

@@chadcassidy1580 that was Metallica's choice, not Bob Rock's. They wanted to go that way and Bob Rock did what they wanted.

They chose Bob Rock after hearing Motley Crues "Dr Feelgood" and liking the production/sound..

Still butthurt crybabies whining about 'you sold old' huh. I missed retarded children.

When does he mention dream theater?

Ruan Singh I don’t remember lol I watched this almost a year ago.

17:24

Yeah but dream theater weren’t even that known yet. Fates Warning had been doing the stuff for awhile. Kirk just always mentions what’s popular now lol

You are god

For me it's Load, Re-load, St. Anger and Lulu

Some Person for me it’s Load, Master, S&M and ride

I have a feeling no one would agree with that one...

For me it's black album, load, reload and st anger. Ride the lightning was in front of st anger, but the tour for st anger is the only time i saw them live so it has grown on me. But i do love all the albums, owned all of them more than once but haven't got hardwired yet as the wasn't much hype for it when it came out.

I saw an interview with the dude who mixed Justice. According to how he described it, Lars' explaination is part of it. He had a specific drum sound he wanted so he did it, then showed James, who didnt like it, so they mixed it again so all the instruments could be heard, but then they played it for Lars who shook his head and said no. The Mixing engineer looked to James who just shrugged at that point. I do think James' past statements about the state of the band at that time sums it up best. Justice is the sound of a band that had been firing on all cylinders for 6 straight years and at that point were completely burned out. Lars wanted his drums to sound a certain way, but I think James and Kirk were at the point where they just wanted to get the album out and get back on the road. I dont think it was any real animosity towards Jason, especially when you hear other interviews where James and Kirk talk about having to mix Justice between shows and that it was before they started wearing earplugs. They would go from the show straight to the studio, listen to the mix while their ears were still ringing, and then do it again the next night. Its no excuse for the bad mix, but at least it helps it to make sense. I think at the time Jason was still in "HOLY SHIT I'M IN FUCKING METALLICA" mode and was still just happy to be there so he didnt even think to voice an opinion on it.

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Erik Randan true. Also in the black album, he also want to his drum sound more “louder” on some part of the song. But bob don’t allowed it. (Sorry for my English btw😂) watch behind the scene and you get what im talking about

@@muhammadirsyazman8389 True. Bob Rock pretty much came in and was the first Producer to tell them NO. It pissed them off to no emd, but once they saw what he was doing, his production methods were a no-brainer. And lets also give a shout out to Randy Staub for his awesome job on the engineering side of things. Dude was invaluable to the production of the black album!

In my opinion - the Album is better without bass. And i think the real reason is simple - Jason just played so different than Cliff. And that just did not really fit to that Metallica sound. At least its my perception when i hear the demos with the bass. It just does not sound right. It sounds better without it...and thats probably the reason why Lars&James "mixed Jason out of the Album"....and they were right to do so. Back then, not even 2 years after Cliff died - most of the fans probably would have had similar feelings.

@@JPX64Channel um I think it's the other way around lol, drum kick was loud, seems like they dubbed the hell out of it compared to the muddy mix on say....RTL Seems the snare has more staccato as well.

The lawn gnome fuck was probably Coked out of his gourd

The real question is how did the label approve of that awful mix

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Angelo López you’re looking too much into that , bro - he just sat there lol

@@davebarvinchak1413 Is my impression. If you look to other interviews, is easy to tell when Kirk is nervous and/or uncomfortable, like when he was asked every time about what happen in HWTSD and not being in the writing credits. He gets like in the moment that I pointed, saying he lost his phone. But I remember an interview with James saying that Kirk was laying, he just not participated this time. Besides, Rasmussen has said to Loudwire that it was all Lars' idea.

Angelo López Fair point , you are right ! Thanks for clarifying 👍🏻

How is he lying?

Angelo López For All we know the other producer could have been lying about that other story. I’ll believe what Lars says since s straight from the horses mouth

aaa um I, I, I, aaa, umm.... no... i think better let lars and james do the talking...

Who do you want to speak? Lars or Kirk. Lars who wrote and worked in everything or Kirk that did F all? Lol no choice but to listen to Lars

@@adventuressurvivalinthailand I prefer Kirk, I hate pushy people, lars pushed kirk out of important decisions...it annoys me...

i was in high school when this album came out...i didnt understand the appeal of One..It wasnt until cruising around with a friend one night and he put on the Master of Puppets cassette and i heard The Thing That Should Not Be. I was blown away and that's what hooked me in. I missed the Justice tour date in my town by probably a week or so...i was so pissed I had missed it. Still am!

and justice made me wanna play bass

@ Raul Tellegen What do you mean? Kirk looked that way for easily %85 of the interview. Rob looked and sounded more involved and he wasn't even on the album.

Listening to Lars talking "when me and James did" all the time, how would you behave?