Jason is clearly the best bassist, Rob and Jason playing bass for every concert would make Metallica the first band to have 2 bassists in their roster.
When Jason left the band... Metallica lost the most metal part of the band. I'm still sad to this day that he is no longer in the band... I love Metallica, always will.. but goddamn, I miss him being in the band!!
100 per cent agree dude..for me metallica wer still moving forward with jason..to me..and as im saying to me rob is like a session player in metallica.they wer still relevant with jason..now theyr just a greatest hits band..and anyone who over states robs importance in metallica should look at the amount of new music and albums theyv put out since hes been in the band...1 album..as appose to jasons 4..plus garage inc..garage days..s and m..mission impossible...when he was in the band they wer the biggest band in the fuckin world..now just a greatest hits touring band...bring back jason \ m /
+Jodoin Maxime justice the black album..garage days. he was with them on the puppets tour too.when they wer on the way up to b the biggest band in the fucking world..your point means shit bro
Erik Giovani jason was the only metal in metallica in the mid to late 90s dude...either way you look at it the black album is metal..its easy to say its not now. ..obviously not justice metal.but its metal
Cliff and Rob may be better than Jason technically but Jason trumps them with his intensity, vocal prowess and energy especially during live performances. He is definitely my favorite Metallica bassist.
CLiff and Rob best bassist period with 1/2 ass vocals Jason best all around musician- -Can lead the band (Sparta 2000 show) -can Lead vocal -Can play Rhythm guitar -Can play drums case closed
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Cysx5-Bc1E8.html Idk man go to 10:35. I like Cliffs growl better than jasons scream. I find the "motherfucker die" part is a bit corny too
Notice how Jason picked all the awesome songs. This, creeping death, battery, harvester of sorrow, and whiplash. Some their fastest and heaviest songs.
imo battery is frigging overrated af. the other fast album openers - Hit the lights, fight fire with fire and blackened - are all superior. Not to mention they play battery live WAY too much, whereas they rarely play htl or fwf.
When I was young people disregarded Newsted as not being metal enough for Metallica and now he is probably getting more respect as a metalhead than the other guys of Metallica.
"Jason only needs four." I was fully expecting Rob to come up to the mic and say "You may only need four, but at least I don't need a pick!". Can't believe he didn't.
It's funny how from 00:22 to 0:35 James had a flashback from the old good times with Jason and he completely forgot about Rob 😆. He was like Lars, Jason and Kirk...we're all set guys...let's do this.
Whenever someone says Lars can't play double bass anymore, I always refer them to this performance. I remember being at this show, and being able to feel his double bass.
lars can bearly play drums at all. his drumming is so uninspired, flat, and boring. often times he cant even keep in time or remember his own basic drum patterns. he is completely over-rated and in the genre there are others who make him look like the garage level drummer he really is.
Fuck me, Metallica sounds really good with 2 bass guitars; Rob playing the regular bass part and Jason doubling James' rhythm guitar. I would love to see a whole concert with Rob and Jason.
Would it really have hurt to have Rob sit out for a song so you could have the straight classic line-up? Are they afraid that people are going to think Robert died and Jason rejoined? Come on...
its probably not his call. thats what he wanted at the hall of fame but the others said no. he already is well know for his work in suicidal, he doesnt need metallica to legitimize himself
liveandletrock864 oh, I know it wasn't up to him. My comment wasn't directed at Robert at all. It was clearly a James/Lars decision. I also think that they should have played some songs off of Kill with the super OG lineup: James/Lars/Dave/Ron. No Kirk, no Rob. That would have been a trip.
whereisevan Excluding Rob would be disrespectful, he plays just as big of a part in Metallica as JH, LU & KH do. Check out some of the songs from night 4 (December 10th 2011)- James even brought out his high school friend to play on Motorbreath. McGovney was there too, even Lloyd Grant did a guest appearance on Hit The Lights.
Excluding Rob for one or two songs to honor Jason and give fans one last view of the (post-Cliff) classic line-up would have in no way diminished Rob's importance to that band. At all.
whereisevan It doesn't make sense though, why should Rob step down for a song to just please a small portion of the fans? Yes, I wrote small portion, because at this point Jason's been out the band for how long- over 13 years and Rob's been kicking ass for over 11 years already. There's a whole new generation of Metallica fans out there that only knows Rob as the bass player. People need to realise that. I think it's special enough that they invited Jason out to play with them again. We should be grateful that we even got the above performance, because there's so many bands out there that don't give two shits about their former members. Don't have to stray too far for that, just look at some of the ridiculous stuff that's happened to the rest of the "big 4" bands over time, even recent times in some cases *cough* "Lombardo's exit". Just goes to show that Metallica are not just a great band, but great individuals as well... I don't know why people can't just enjoy another fabolous performance without trying to knit pick every little aspect of it. When I went to these shows I didn't even expect this to happen. Remember that Jason was pretty much off the radar in terms of his musical endevours at that point. Doing a song w/ the "OG lineup" would just flat out be wrong at this point. I'm sure that it didn't even cross their minds, including Jason's, because that's just not the way they operate these days.
It's always a treat to see Jason back with Metallica even if it wasn't permanent but I would've loved to have seen them perform Dyers Eve with Jason on vocals...
jason could probably play this with 2 strings...lol...and he'd pummel the fuck out of those two strings...always loved jason live...his intensity is/was unrivaled...
if there was such a "replacement" for burton then it would be simply jason....jason is and always will be metallica. he has the natural look like burton had...burton made metallica sound the way they did in the first place even taught them how to harmonize. Nothing against rob though but even after all these years he just doesnt fit in with the metallica look. He's still considered new.
+sebastian st james But they did not in favor of creating a "look", it was just the opposite. When they appeared with short hair after years of classic long hair metalhead, they received millions of criticism and many purists sick came to characterize them as "sold" by their hair cut, or make a heavy disc without guitar solos or stand on stage with jeans and T-shirts, when in the 80's metal "look" was leggings and those weird hairstyles. I dont think Metallica want to create a "look"
It is weird but I get it. Rob, to this day, still doesn’t look right in the band. He’s awesome, an amazing player, a super nice guy but the look of the band with him just looks off to me. At the start of the video when it’s just James, Lars, Kirk and Jason and Rob is out of shot it looked right. Can’t put my finger on it
The difference in sound is not negligible. You can definitely hear it although it may not be easy with shrieking guitars and singers on top of it. There is a vid of David Ellefson doing a clinic and explaining the difference. He plays a Megadeth bass riff both ways. Definite difference in tone. I'd say the reason you play metal bass with a pick more often than not is to be heard and have clearer tone under a lot of other things going on. The pick has a sharper bite than any finger can deliver.
When it was announced that Rob would be the new bassist, a bass player friend of mine, who has nothing but respect for Rob, said to me that he didnt think the it would mix right. Which is interesting because Metallica has sounded off to my ears since then. But it sounds better here. Anecdotal? Yes. But it is what it is.
This is great but if I was Trujillo I would give Jason the stage for these couple of songs that they played, just to give the people the gift of seeing the previous lineup together for those few moments. Still kick ass tho!
Two great bass players! I'm a big fan and I play bass aswell. Both Jason and Rob are special in their own domain. I play both with fingers and and pick so that my playing is coherent with the style or song I'm playing. This particular song ends up favouring Jason's playing better considering Metallica's vast repertoire. Nevertheless I don't think one's better than the other. IMO the best guy would have to be "some kind of monster", like a combination of the 3 skilled bassists. Long live Metallica! Peace!
I've been a professional level drummer/percussionist for 12 years as well as a drum teacher. Lars Balls'itch's personality is greater than his drumming. And that's only referring to his timing.
That's it Jason , he knows how to bang , it's just too bad he's no longer with Metallica , but Rob is trying , I rather Jason in the band he has the moves and he has the talent do t forget also that heavy metal look way to go Jason keep rocken :)
I'm so happy they played this song. For years all anyone has said is that Lars is a shitty drummer, but this is straight up one of the most badass drum songs in any thrash metal catalog, and the fact that he's still able to play it 25 years later is fucking awesome.
