Methane SIBO Treatment: Case Study 

Thanks Helen!

SIBO breath testing is a must with bloating, gas and a change in bowel movements

Thanks for the feedback 🙏

thanks divine! Appreciate the feedback 🙂

Thanks 🙏 appreciate the feedback!

Great feedback! I wasn’t sure it would be helpful 😊

@@ByronHerbalist Todd, I have to add, it would be very invaluable if you could do complex cases like Methane + Hydrogen Sulf because those are some of the hardest things to treat and perhaps even share diet approaches that those patients undertook to see better success!

So glad it was helpful!

Thanks for the great feedback

Thanks Mac 😊 if it’s helpful I can keep putting them out. It’s rarely that easy but sometimes the fundamentals work first go round!

@@ByronHerbalistHi I got some Allicin,Bacillus Coagulan,and rhubarb powder plus high grade Manuka honey I’m slowly introducing these at a slow pace I need to get a handle on this because I can’t afford to lose anymore weight thanks for any advice

More to come! Thanks for the comment 🙌

Pleasure! Glad it was helpful

How does liver function fair with these herbal therapies?

yes! This is a great help for some. So glad it's helping!

Thanks! Appreciate the feedback

love the feedback! On it :-)

Working on it. It’s a tough problem to solve but we’re on it!

Me too! My symptoms are severe asthma when eating gluten tomato msg soy caffeine chocolate

I’ve linked to the article under the video if that helps :-)

That is a good sign. Keep those BM moving and transit time up here

Thanks for the feedback! I have one specific case study that relates. Let me see if she is happy for me to share her tests and treatment plan. She’s making good progress so it should be valuable!

@@ByronHerbalist thank you so much!❤️

@@ByronHerbalist we’d love to see more of these.

Hi Byron I have had a terrible time for last year with Acid reflux in the throat and ears eventually moving to chest middle of night and daytime attacks trouble breathing etc Went on omeprazol a PPI and this caused bloating gas and generally felt terrible went to GI and he had tests carried out including SIBO test turned out to be very high methane results no Hydrogen Results started with base breath of 50 then after taking the sample growing to top of 90 plus around 90 minutes GI doctor has not contacted me but I’m quite constipated do small movements but can’t clear bowel and have intolerance to a few foods and alcohol and soft drinks it’s been a KNIGHMARE Are these crazy high resting at 50 and can it be cured or managed Currently taking Ginger and Artichoke x2 Nutri Advance Candex SIBO x2 each meal Digestive enzymes x1 each meal Is there anything I could add like Turkey Rhubarb

@@sidmartin4677 try a highly absorbable magnesium to bowel tolerance. Works for my reflux

Thanks for the input! Methane sibo is a big passion and focus of mine. More coming soon!

You got it! On the list now. I don’t see direct benefit but supporting the treatment they can help immensely. More soon

Yes this is very important! I like to start with herbs that balance first and if needed moving towards stronger antimicrobials. Sometimes we can get away with probiotics and probiotics as an effective treatment. More on that soon!

How did you get on?

How r u feeling

Thanks for the kind words! I don't frequently use NAC but have colleagues that rely on it as a biofilm disruptor. I find when we really need to disrupt biofilms we need the strong stuff. Bismuth can be tricky to work with and is a prescription here but when it is combined with a few extra bits it can really disrupt and shift treatment resistant bugs. H. pylori is a big one here!

Thanks so much! Anything you’re most interested in?

Dosages are tough as it is all individualised to the patient. In the future I’ll try to be more specific on ranges of doses I would consider for a case 😊

I've just done the same thing, and feel the same way.

This is a less common symptom I see. A good strong enzyme can help some here!

@@ByronHerbalist Many thanks Byron Herbalist Todd. I'm in London UK btw, have lived &worked in Sydney and Melbourne previously good times! Yes, I've had Pure Encaps pancreatin in 2021, as was diagnosed with minimal pancreatitis in Jan 2020, and this helped reduce pancreas pain when eating. Then in 2022 I found I don't really need pancreatin as pain was greatly reduced & my elastase improved from 208 to 378, and sometimes over 500 w/o supplementing. I do have Terranova digestive enzymes sometimes, I find tudca helpful for reducing gallbladder/bile flow pain (my bilirubin is always slightly elevated at 26). But nothing helps stop the weight loss or regain weight. Scans/tests have been okay. Recent Metabolomix/organic test shows low B6, B12, very low B9, slightly low digestive enzymes, very low taurine, low good bacteria etc. I've read methane SIBO can cause weight loss as the bacteria can "eat" the food and stop bile/enzymes from working. It also blocks absorption. I think previous SIBO teatments have not worked, as supplements made me more constipated. I should have 2 bm's a day which is my healthy normal, but only have 1 or less. I will start going to go to saunas and will hopefully get a good treatment plan from my practitioner including an effective prokinetic &biofilm disruptor. As awful NHS GPs prescribed PPIs/ranitidine hs2 historically (2018-19 on &off) and had antibiotics for HPylori (2015), SIBO could be a root cause. I understand this congestion can lead to pancreatitis and gallbladder issues.

I have had similar weight loss issues despite eating well. Have gradually lost weight since a bad stomach upset. All Tests and scans have been fine so was wondering if I too have had some kind of SIBO. My consultant has basically fobbed me off with IBS!

@@KevDogg683 Hi! I was wondering if you looked into leaky gut? I am not a doctor or any kind of health professional, I am just trying to self-diagnose and so far I came across leaky gut and sibo as possibilities. Anyways, good luck with your health!

@@analovejoy3730 Hi Ana, thanks for the message. I did have leaky gut (elevated zonulin), pathogens, high secretory IgA, high Geotrichum candidum, high e coli, low bifidobacteria/Akkermansia etc in my gut test in 2021. Gut test in 2022 with another lab showed no leaky gut, normal secretory IgA, no pathogens but high e coli, low bifidobacteria/Akkermansia remain. The latest test does not cover Geotrichum candidum so may need to check this. Recently, as I have intermittent gallbladder/bile flow pain, I've looked into the Moritz liver flush, I've completed 2 flushes and I've passed a lot of stones so appears I need to keep going to fully cleanse. Also following my practitioners methane SIBO treatment &biphasic diet no sweet potatoes, grains, fruit etc. Hoping my body can stop losing & start regaining weight soon! ☀️

I'm sorry you were forced to take your gallbladder out and under a lot of pressure to take prescription medication for reflux.

What's helping with bile flow

Yes, still not sure if its connected but histamine and covid is a definite connection

Are you noticing anything with the Triphala? I've been on it for months, my 6th bottle I think. I don't think it's doing much.. still slow transit time. And that's taking HCl, TUDCA and cascara sagrada too.

I have high methane too and have severe brain fog and shortness of breath, but mainly after eating from histamines and also stress. Curious to know too.

If your abdomina distended then your lungs get pressure. You will have shortness of breadth.

@@zorromohammad1999 I realized what you just said this week. I was observing my body and wondering if I actually have histamine issues. And I came to the conclusion that I don’t, it’s just severe bloat and pressure in the abdomen and lungs. I’m so happy I don’t have histamines.

@@elizabethwilliams7330 interment fast. Drink strong ginger black tea before dinner. Non fermentable diet. Your symptoms will go in few weeks.

If your root cause of SIBO is mycotoxin exposure, this can definitely cause shortness of breath. Low iron also will do it.

Thanks for the great feedback! Glad you are seeing some improvements but it can be a journey for some.

@@ByronHerbalist thank you! But do you think even with low level of methane (16ppm) can I be so symptomatic? Also can allicin taken for methane cause in increase in gas at the beginning?

Same here need help for methane based. Iam from India as well.

I would track transit time here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0Aj_RmdIHTw.html to see if you need prokinetics

I wish! No, unfortunately it isn’t that straight forward.

I heard Dr Berg mention this as well

Yes and turmeric make sure its Organic.

@@puppetken How much raw ginger?

I've been taking Biocidin drops with GI Detox + for three weeks now. My stomach cramps have nearly disappeared but I still have terrible constipation and slow evacuation. To eliminate the constipation, I've been taking 1,000 mg of magnesium citrate twice a day but that gives me diarrhea. I'm trying the low FODMAP diet but it's too early to tell if it's going to help. I am very confused as what to take and what to eat- it's very frustrating.

@@dianepayne9100 do you know for sure that you have SIBO? Have you taken a breath test for SIBO? Many SIBO like symptoms are also symptoms of other underlying gut issues

@@markh2719 No, Mark I'm not positive. I self diagnosed myself with SIBO and IBS -M because my GI doctor was a waste of time. I found another doctor, via a friend, who suggested I get a MRI, a colonoscopy and an endoscopy to rule out Crohn's, colitis, celiac disease and diverticulitis. Cancer has been ruled out. So, hopefully, this doctor will diagnose me and I'll be able to get my life back again.

Vitamunda colon hyperdetox is the best biofilm cleanse out there! You might want to give it a try!

@@markh2719 No, I just guessed because my GI doctor was useless

For mixed SIBO I'd treat the presenting symptoms and hope to clear them both. If not simply adjust the plan to target the treatment resistant form. Hope that helps :-)

SIBOtest.com is the lab we use. They're great!

EO Nutrition would be the go to on that. I like b1 for some patients here

Gut Pathogen Killed Naturally: Step By Step Plan ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ujjZx4J8pFI.html

Hi Richard you should listen to this guy who finally cured his SIBO and really bad brain fog, I’ve had this issues for about 7 years and have tried different approaches and just the other day this guy’s video randomly popped up on my RU-vid and I’m SO glad it did, I’m planning to implement his suggestions. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-53f1gsRUxvY.htmlsi=Gt5lUImriiZRI0yN

I don’t see great success in my patient population but do have one or two that have seen big benefits here

@@ByronHerbalist Ok thanks for update. Is low fodmap a better option. Thank you very much for the info and updating us on sibo and got work you do 🙏

From memory he had worked with it before with no success. Always worth a 6-8 week trial to rule it in our out.

Not many help directly here unfortunately

Have you been tested for Helicobacter pylori?

@Valentina Dehtyar I tried the armour thyroid and been suffering panic attacks…..I wish I hadn’t gone there. I’m now back on levothyroxine and trying to get back to normal. What are you trying?

Dr says I need synthroid and I really don’t wish to go down that rabbit hole

I am on NP thyroid and have methane SIBO. Here are some things I’ve found helpful: - Atrantil helps massively with bloating - Digestive enzymes help break down a heavy meal a LOT. - a capsule of ginger with a capsule of artichoke extract right before every meal. - a whole food, low fat, plant based diet 👍🏻

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I haven’t used it here yet and haven’t seen any studies on it either. Could be helpful though

1000-1500mg of elemental magnesium in the mag oxide product is high dose

Is bad breath a symptom? Has it improved

Atrantil

SIBO is a major driver of histamine intolerance! link in the video description

more clove as a whole herb. If I can find clove oil in a supplement I'll use that too at times

Excellent news! Garlic can generally be taken quite high dose if tolerated. Cloves too! On a weight basis for cloves you can go all the way up to 1 to 1.5 grams. Encapsulating the ground cloves helps, it’s potent!

Oh and flaxseeds n ppgg

Yes, although I am less concerned around this than some other colleagues.

It depends on what the underlying cause is. Carnivore drastically decreased my methane SIBO symptoms while on the carnivore diet, but because I had undiagnosed Hashimoto’s (hypothyroidism) the symptoms came right back when I discontinued carnivore.

@@Ephedrenaline well, I’m glad you found relief when people tell you to find the root cause you start going down the never ending rabbit hole if they say that anabiotic’s or herbals kill the bacteria who cares about the root cause you either get rid of it or you don’t it doesn’t just come back problem is never got rid of all of it in the first place

​@@Ephedrenalineme to i have Hashimoto and sibo So what diet are you on now?

@@LymuraGaming Sorry to hear that, I understand the struggle so well. Carnivore. It keeps my Hashimotos in remission like nothing else. Meat from ruminant animals, fat, salt, water. I used to include black coffee but eventually cut that out and saw huge improvements. I supplement with lactoferrin (for iron levels) and selenium every day. I also take vitamin D3 (with K2) and a methylated B complex. I feel amazing. I hope you'll find what works for you. 🙏

Did you change your diet after the antibiotics?

@@myasavage8103 no

@@virtualrealistic6242 That may be why symptoms returned. You have to manage after treatment to prevent it from flaring back up

@@myasavage8103 tell me how to manage

@@virtualrealistic6242 Eat foods that are easy for the digestive system to digest. This prevents malabsorption causing foods to sit in gut and causing bad bacteria all over again. Maybe try low carb, definitely stay away from sugars breads and processed foods. Google foods to prevent sibo flair ups

that can be the tricky bit. A local herbalist can help :-)

SB is generally well tolerated but as with everything is a case by case

@@ByronHerbalist many thanks for your fast reply.

It could. It isn't something I use but am open to it if needed. Biofilms and it is astringent too

See if you can get both in one. Here in Australia this is the standard SIBO breath test.

@@ByronHerbalist Thank u sir 🙂

@Paru Sati Bhai maine doc k bht chakkar lgaye test krwaye koi fayda nhi mila tha phr panchkarma krwaya ab kfi theek hn ek br panchkarma krwa lo body ki toxicity nikal jayegi toh bhook apne aap lgegi

On it!

Thanks Susan! Will do, it’s so much easier to make these vids too :-) Yup he had worked with lots of the oils and berberine too! No success. With stubborn methane getting the bowels moving and the transit time faster can be key. Bile flow can be big too.

Yes, great question! A high baseline for methane and a spike at the end of the test would indicate large bowel. A spike early in the test would indicate small bowel. I’ll put together a video on my interpretation guidelines soon, there’s an art and a science to it 👍

That would be great Byron! I'm looking forward to it! Thank you for translating all this highly complicated material for us!

Lower FODMAP and reintroducing trigger foods over time successfully!

@@ByronHerbalist thanks!

So happy!

Thanks for the kind words! I have learned so much from dr hawrelak, a pioneer in the field for sure! Their team works with folks in the USA too 👍

Of course. I see this weekly in the clinic!

@@ByronHerbalistso there is a cure 🥹🥹 people online are so negative