Metroid: Other M Hard Mode Speedrun [WR from 10/22/2019 to 01/13/2022] 

Just my left thumb, and yes, it does wear on the thumb a fair bit. Overall not that bad, though. There's a reason I use my right thumb on the d-pad for the walking section :P

Yeah definitely it was an amazing game

A lotta fun, but the story is meh.

This game has huge flaws, such as the story and the structure, but it had potential to be better explored.

Never understood why this game is taboo to some of the Metroid community, like wasn't super metroid basically this but in 2D?

@@matthewmorrison3745 In terms of gameplay, it's Metroid 3D Land, but they sacrified the exploration, one of the key factors of the series, in order to focus on storytelling, and the story is terrible! It effectively destroys Samus' character through countless sexist innuendoes, making her weak and submissive towards Adam and trying to throw in a bunch of irrelevant characters (except for Anthony, the best character in the game).

Just a little difficult. It gets easier around the time you go back to Sector 3 again. Mostly because the tiny hits from the random enemies stop mattering, the bosses turn into evade or be killed, there is no middle ground.

@@Habreno got it. I’m gonna try it

And now u have dread to look forward to as well. Only a week left 👀

Replay all, its so fake, u never finish the first metroid game.

I don't touch the story.

As far as I've heard, no one has much to say about the gameplay aside from how the story holds it back.

Genriu Other than absolutely BUTCHERING Samus’ character, it’s... kinda fine

Samus' character is butchered and it feels restrictive, considering it's a series about exploration. That's the general consensus.

@@shiftyandromeda5046 Like I said, story is rotten, and goes as far as to get in the way of gameplay, too.

The game is not bad but the story is really bad, and the game itself focus on the story and thats the main trouble, the worst is samus be ordered by adam

It's an enjoyable game indeed.

We have a discord for it :) discord.gg/Ep8tpCT Break a leg, and excited to see your runs :D

@@orzova7115 absolutely, 100% your opinion, dude. It's the best Metroid game ever made. 1-10 how mad does that make you?

Don't bother responding to them. I don't tolerate people that can't show any sort of respect.

Oh boy I wanna speed run this too I think I’ll join that discord

Morph ball is nice. It's faster. Unfortunately, Samus takes double damage while morphed... and that stacks with Hard Mode causing Samus to take 1.4x damage compared to Normal Mode. So an early-game common enemy that does 10 damage in Normal Mode... ends up doing 28 in Hard Mode to Morph Ball Samus. For a playthrough where you're hard-capped at 99 energy, 28 is over a quarter of that gone, from an early-game common enemy. Running is probably the safer option - though it is slower (even speedbooster is slower, and yes, I've timed it).

@@Habreno Didn't know that. Speaking of which how you liking Metroid Dread?

Do not know, have not played it, do not own it yet. Intend to, though. I was busy on Friday so was unable to get out to get it.

@@Habreno Well dude if you liked this game you're gonna like Dread. It's awesome man. Samus' movement is by far the best I've ever played and I think you'll agree once you get it. Perfect game to speedrun too.

Pretty much every attack he has can one-shot you. His melee attack and his "slam you into the wall" attacks are the only two you can survive in Hard Mode.

Man now Im gonna keep thinking about that lol

@@chuganoga1908 Haha same here. I really hope they do that!

There is a playable epilogue that somewhat closes the story, but it's not playable in Hard Mode. In a way, thank goodness, because fighting Phantoon in Any% can be difficult; fighting Phantoon in Hard Mode would be terrible.

I have no interest in watching many minutes of cutscenes :P

:P lul It do seem like that.

You need to 100% the game to unlock Hard Mode. Have fun with it :P

@@Habreno Oh that explains why I never knew ty

The purpose of the Spazer in the original was to give the beam more coverage. The Diffusion Beam in this pretty much accomplishes the same thing albeit upon contact instead of the whole shot.

Oh, you had *that* clip. For some weird reason, skipping past the space pirates (and the lava drain afterwards) does cause that softlock. We don't quite know why, but presumably because clearing the fight and lava unlocks the door, and once you return, the room is in the wrong state but the door unlock never happened and now can't happen. Unfortunately, there is no fixing that except by starting fresh.

I had to take some time offline for a few months, sorry. I use an AverMedia Live Gamer Portable - not necessarily the best card, but a very flexible one. There's plenty of consoles it can capture thanks to taking multiple inputs beyond simply HDMI, and outputs over HDMI (which is good for me as my TV takes HDMI in). Also as it's an external card, it outputs to computer over USB (I think 3.0, not certain), which is useful for a laptop (even if said laptop is now a portable desktop due to a dead battery). If I ever built a new computer, I would likely go with an internal card, even on a laptop (if I can), just because I would build the computer with the capture card instead of buying it later. They are more durable and usually better (as you aren't using USB for data), but external cards definitely have their place.

Not sure what you are talking about. He is using a missile followed up by charge up finisher.

Unlike the other metroids, this had barely any exploration. And people didnt like how samus was in this game. But I liked it, it was good to see samus not being just a killing machine everytime.

1.Simplistic gameplay. 2.Questionnable controls. 3.Even less of a metroidvania than Fusion&Corruption. 4.Forgettable soundtrack 5.Boring artstyle. And of course 6.Trully awful story.

@@legrandliseurtri7495 not all metroid have to be metroid for be good nintendo make metrois good cause they dont make the same 2D platformshooter over 20 times just watch final fantasy from example and tell me how is the gameplay simplistic an bad thing arent all metroids gameplay simplistic? basically you just -begin -explore -get blocked -defeat boss or gain new item -advance with new item also other M come good in terms of graphics and how samus fell far more agile like in other metroid 2d and how she can do things such as wall kick here there in prime samus fell tanky and slow and there in the prequel samus litteraly need an special point for wall kick with the screw attack

@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry Uh, that's not what gameplay means. The problem with Other M's gameplay is mainly that sense move trivalizes almost every combat situation in the game. Corruption had a much less worse version of that problem with hypermode.

It's a speedrun. The cutscenes are slow, so they get skipped.

Would be difficult but not super-difficult. A bit of control remapping but I think it's doable. I'd have to look and see if they could do a single-joycon or if they would have to do double.

Good luck with that. The game sold barely over 1 million copies.

@@legrandliseurtri7495 still deserve an switch port

@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry I'm pretty sure Super Metroid and Nestroid are the only metroid games that got ported. The gba titles are missing, and so does the trilogy, which all sold better than Other M, so...

@@legrandliseurtri7495 still not an worthy excuse for excluse it from being ported there are other metroid game shadowed metroid 2 metroid prime pinball metroid prime hunte they too deserve an port or atleast being include in some anthology

Have a file that's already beaten main game + epilogue, and you'll be able to skip the cutscenes. There's a blank file set on sr.c if you need one for the NTSC version.

Because the gameplay is nothing like any previous instalment, the controls are not well thought out because Sakamoto was on such an ego trip he wanted SNES like controls for the game. The story is fucking awful, is full of plot holes and decanonises the most beloved games, the Prime Trilogy out of the main story and creates a warped timeline that revolves around Other M. Massive aspects like Samus’ breakdown scene or Adams “sacrifice” make absolutely no sense for the story and the voice acting is god awful. I don’t hate this game because it characterised Samus, I hate this game because it did it so badly wrong and Sakamoto has lost his talent as a writer. This game didn’t perform well either because it wasn’t liked by players. This was by every means not a good Metroid game. In your opinion, it can be a good game but to classify it as a good Metroid game (involving keeping with the themes of Metroid as they always have been) is simply wrong.

@@dtc7014 dude. I just like the style and music

Bradley Brown that’s absolutely fine and respectable, but you can’t say you don’t understand why people didn’t like it. There’s about a thousand reasons people didn’t.

@@dtc7014 well, they needed to suck it up :v

I don't care for the story either. However, I watched a fairly interesting video recently that somewhat explained why we hate it a lot, and the theory (not sure if it's a full-out theory or fact, so just going to go theory here) that basically is we got a botched translation of the story. I don't know a lick of Japanese, so I can't attest to translation accuracy or lack thereof, but what was brought up was fairly intriguing and... made a ton of sense.

Yes, if you have a file that's already beaten main game + epilogue.

what are cutscenes

Dude.

He’s right you know

Awesome run btw

I ignore the story.

@@Habreno ya gotta

@@Pimpnocchio hate adam? remind this dude save aran life 3 time first when she negate her to went into the spaceship and save the people by doing does saving her from went into the spaceship who quickly exploded during the cutscene second she saves samua from the FG metroid larvas 3 in fusion he along the ethaccon and dachora he bring is gunship into the BSL dock bay before it crashed on SRR38

@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry Sorry still hate ‘im

Ain't everyone gonna like every game. Oh well. /shrug

​@@Habreno Of course not. That's not the point though. The point is to establish the measuring stick. If a ton of people really enjoy eating poop never want to go beyond and have actual real food that is good, and then they also insist their poop is cake, you have two options. Ignore them or try to correct them. If you ignore them they will petition the chef to serve more poop, because they like it, meaning you will have to continue to see poop when you try to eat. They can't force you to eat it, but you'll still be around poop. You don't have a right to stop them from enjoying their poop eating experience, but you know there is a huge problem with it. They then call you an instigator or a troll for not liking said poop. I push as hard as I do about this for two reasons. 1) I find it hard to ignore sheer ignorant stupidity, and 2) because Prime 3: Samus Eats a Turd did so well, Retro and Nintendo will attempt to make another game in the same vein as Prime 3: Samus Eats a Turd instead of what it should be, as a continuation of the first Metroid Prime, a game that actually had some integrity and objective artistic value. Hot off the heels of Prime 3 we were given Other M. That game is at least bad enough that most can see it for what it is. In 2017 we were given Federation Force. This is what they think the Prime fans want. Juvenile, cheap, disgusting end products. It is by sheer luck that we were handed Metroid Dread, and not because of Nintendo. The studio in Spain that made it were passionate fans of Metroid, and that IMO is the only reason it's so good, not because of Nintendo. I don't have any hope and I'm not crossing my fingers for Prime 4. If the released box art is real, I can tell you it will be bad. Feel free to enjoy your plate of poop, but don't be surprised when I look at you with a disgusted face.

Not the kind of person to delete comments unless they are spam. Let me simply state that I don't care for Other M's story (as I have said time and time again - I enjoy its gameplay, the story... leaves a bit to be desired), and I am still going to disagree with how hard you are trashing on the game. It's not the greatest game. Never claimed it was. But it is still an enjoyable experience, and calling it poop is fairly demeaning to both the game and to me as someone who enjoys it for what it is. Dislike the game as you please, but be respectful to me.

@@Habreno Respect is earned, my friend, and your initial reply was really dumb.

The words that you use are a good reflexion of what is in your head that prevent you from seeing Other M as a more subtle game than Metroid Prime, both gameplay and art perspective.

Controls aren't that terrible. Asking you the same question I ask everyone else: What would you map controls out as that keeps it from being the same as the Primes, yet improves it?

@@Habreno Not as Prime for me, but as Super! It's my favorite Metroid, specially in terms of controls, because of how many abilities you can pull of with Samus and how I feel in complete control in that game. Imagine Super Metroid's controls applied in 3D, but using an analog stick and the six buttons at our disposal in the wiimote+nunchuk combo. A - Jump B - Beam C - Switch view Z - Missle (-) & (+) - Toggle weapons (super missle, grapple beam and power bomb) 1 - Map 2 - Status Replace this concentration thing by pickups like in previous games, allow me to kick jump in any wall I want, allow me to perform melee attacks by small wiimote flicks instead of a broken dodge manuever and to use the grappling beam as a lasso onto enemies.

Have been thinking on this for a while... Would probably use - for Map and + for Status instead of 1/2 since those buttons (+/-) are a bit harder to utilize than 1/2 are, and you will want to toggle weapons more often than map or status. I assume you could fire missiles in normal mode in this case? Also what is morph?

Geez! I forgot a command for morph ball, my bad! :v So, I drafted a new one, based on the GBA games. A - Jump B - Shoot C - Morph Ball Z - Use Missles (-) - Toggle weapons (between missiles, super missiles and grapple beam) (+) - Pause (map & status) Z+B in Morph Ball - Use a Power Bomb BTW, I love how do power bombs goes off in this game, like an actually dangerous explosive and not like a small lightning with a crescent ball of light in Prime games.

Still thinking on this one. I tend to play through things mentally a bit and this is proving a bit tricky to do so with.

Better game when you skip the story :P Glad you enjoyed the run.