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MFT vs. FF Wildlife Photography Comparison 

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My cousin and I had a shootout between micro four thirds and full frame gear to see if it really matters. As a more experienced wildlife photographer, I used the smaller micro four thirds gear while as a beginner, my cousin used the larger full frame gear. This video is an in-detail comparison of the images we got and analyzing what matters more: skill or gear.
Check out the MFT vs. FF shootout between me and my cousin below!
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@HotGates
@HotGates Год назад
Nice video, I have the Canon R3 which I just love and as a wildlife photographer I use it with the RF 100-500 f7.1 and I also have the OM-1 with the M.Zuiko 150-400 which is amazing, Now ok my R3 has much better ISO performance but I still use Lightroom AI denoise so no big deal for me. Now about the DOF I get the same DOF with my f4.5 than my f7.1 I really see no difference but as far as the rest for the price the OM-1 has features that my 6k R3 doesn't have and the detail with the OM-1 and 150-400 is incredible.
@officialwilder
@officialwilder Год назад
That's interesting to hear, thanks for sharing that specific camera/lens feedback! Some great thoughts you shared.
@captinktm
@captinktm Год назад
I thought this was a comparison of two different camera systems? But in the end it's crazy, there will always be alternative to full frame, and they will have their advantages, but in my experience FF will always do as good with the added flexibility of high res, and composition. One thing I found moving form crop to FF is that the later takes no prisoners. too slow on the shutter and it's going to be deleted. Thanks for posting.
@MrTmiket0007
@MrTmiket0007 Год назад
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always and entertaining, keep up with the awesome content 🐦👍🤗
@juanitakelly3082
@juanitakelly3082 Год назад
Interesting comparison and some great points about composition!
@officialwilder
@officialwilder Год назад
Thank you Juanita! :)
@sameerpandharipande8204
@sameerpandharipande8204 4 месяца назад
I am a beginner photographer and I have a Panasonic Lumix G7. Please suggest a good budget telephoto lens for wildlife photography.
@doncooper2344
@doncooper2344 Год назад
Just to keep things real, and not to nit-pick, but for bird shots MFT should be the hands down winner over FF, assuming a similar quality lens. This just comes down to simple arithmetic. For a similar class of lens, MFT lenses produce higher resolution per mm than FF lenses. For top end lenses, you're looking at 80-90 lp/mm with MFT as opposed to 50-60 lp/mm with FF. You can make up for that with more real estate in mm since FF has 23mm of height and MFT only 14mm. But for bird photography you're invariably reach limited which means you'll need to crop the FF image. That eliminates the more real estate, leaving the MFT image with higher IQ. Studio work of course would be totally different, In this case IQ is going to come down to the lens and lighting. Not the sensor, and certainly not the size of the sensor. What leads people astray is thinking that shooting FF lenses with APS-C bodies is similar to shooting APS-C lenses with APS-C bodies or MFT lenses with MFT bodies. Totally different. Using FF lenses with APS-C bodies will always give you a lower IQ image because you have the same lp/mm from the same lens but fewer mm. However, shooting with APS-C lenses on an APS-C body like Fuji or MFT lenses on a MFT body is fundamentally different. Fuji APS-C lenses deliver more resolution per mm than FF lenses. which means if you have to crop the FF image to the size of the APS-C image the Fuji APS-C image will have higher IQ. Your idea that IQ or resolution can be measured in MP is totally misguided. This is obvious if you think about it. You'll get the same MP when shooting with a poor quality lens as with a high quality lens but the IQ will be totally different. Having used the top end Canon equipment I'm confident that the OM 150-400mm is the best wildlife lens you can buy that doesn't need a wheelbarrow, and when shooting fast moving subjects the OM-1 with subject detect will give you more in-focus images than any other body. I don't know of any 35mm system that can compete with this setup. Note that in these shots focus wasn't (or shouldn't have been) an issue, so a big part of the advantage of one body over another was lost. The IQ would only come down to the lens, and the appeal of the image would only come down to composition. In other words, giving your cousin "the better" equipment didn't end up with him having "the better" equipment.
@officialwilder
@officialwilder Год назад
This comparison video was of course fun and exploring the idea of skill vs. gear, so the results weren't scientific in the slightest, I have some reviews coming out in much more detail soon on the gear that was used :) I'll show examples in controlled settings in two weeks from now on my review actually showing specifically how poor the IQ was in the Olympus 150-400mm... you'll be surprised! I hear what you're saying about glass and sensors, but simple math is actually that the glass real estate of a MFT lens is less than a FF lens. So not only that, but you're asking for less glass, and less sensor size... often leading to worse results. (I'm not saying it's unusable, just something to strongly consider). I got to do plenty of tests, and low light and noise is undoubtably a big side effect of MFT, and sharpness can be worse once you've used up your resolution cropping amount. However, you are right in saying that "often" the problem doesn't come down to resolution but rather glass quality. Another downside of the MFT sensor is in regards to depth of field, you lose 2 whole stops as opposed to FF. Therefore, this 400mm f/4 that I was using effectively becomes a 800mm f/8 in regards to FF which is not what the common people are expecting when they translate focal lengths from MFT to FF. So overall, there are pros and cons, but ultimately if all else are equal in regards to quality thrown into the lens and sensor, a full frame setup will always outperform a micro-four thirds setup in every IQ regard except price and weight.
@_systemd
@_systemd 11 месяцев назад
M43 lenses do get more lpmm but projected onto smaller sensor as mentioned above. Thus ultimately for the same sized print,only the 300 f4(and prob 150-400) can compete with some of the average ff lenses mounted to full frame. Something like sigma 60-600 for example will alrdy outperform it in more subject separation, less dof, and more sharpness. 40lpmm projected at twice larger sensor dimension outperforms 70lpmm and holds up better when printing large too. Correctly, mounting FF lenses to apsc will cause certain drop of quality , particularly with lenses that aren't the sharpest to begin with. (on the contrary canons latest 3pp f2.8 kills it on apsc included ) Ppl make the mistake of judging a system by a single parametre only. Be it sensor, or be it lens. Olympus performs well as a system due to multiple factors. If we speak merely about image quality tho, let's not kid ourselves, the 300 f4 (which I have here) won't deliver what a FF 600 f4 can do.
@doncooper2344
@doncooper2344 11 месяцев назад
@@_systemd Doesn't work this way. They get more lp/mm. Whether that's more lp in an image depends on how many more lpmm they get. In reach limited situations, if you crop the 35mm image to the same size as the MFT image, the 300mm and the 150-400mm will blow the 35 mm image away, even if you're using the best/heaviest/bulkiest 35mm lenses. I've used both. You obviously haven't.
@doncooper2344
@doncooper2344 10 месяцев назад
@@_systemd You're not fully understanding how this works. First of all, mounting a FF lens on an APSC sensor is NOT the same things as mounting an APSC lens on a bod with an APSC sensor. The former will give you the same lp/mm as you'd get from the FF lens. The latter will give you a much higher lp/mm. You are correct in thinking that the MFT system will give you fewer mm. However you're wrong in thinking that this means the FF system will give you higher IQ. If IQ depends on the lp in the image -- and it does -- then it depends on the lp/mm multiplied by the mm. (The size of the file BTW is irrelevant when printing. It's all about the lp. A 70 MP image with 500 lp can't compete with a 10 MP image with 1000 lp). For wildlife you're invariably reach limited. This means that if the lens has the same focal length, say 400mm, then you have to crop the FF image to get the same FOV as you have with the MFT image. In this case the MFT image will always be superior, assuming a similar quality lens. The only question is how superior. IOW the OM 150-400mm will hands down produce superior images to more or less anything you can get for a FF system. Of course you can make things closer with something like a 600mm f4 FF lens but then you need a wheelbarrow to carry it. Since seeing is believing, check out Mike Lane's channel. www.youtube.com/@MikeLaneFRPS
@marcel9568
@marcel9568 10 месяцев назад
@@doncooper2344 When he adds a 2 kilogram, $7000 lens to his om1 his gets nice images, indeed.
@brucegraner5901
@brucegraner5901 Год назад
Good video. I would add to what you said by suggesting we really need to get to know our cameras to really understand their strengths and weaknesses rather than constantly switching kit in search of the perfect camera. Since you started out with the Lumix G9, as I remember, it would be interesting to see you shoot with the OM-1 in a video and talk about what differences you discover and workarounds or approaches, if any, between using the OM and your current full-frame gear. It's easy to be jealous of big primes and mega-sensor cameras but I still favor light-weight gear and the flexibility of a good zoom, not to mention the lower cost of MFT. Given your current level of experience, how green do those FF pastures look now compared to when you started out?
@officialwilder
@officialwilder Год назад
Thanks Bruce! You're totally right, I do my best to learn all that I can in the limited month that I am given the gear on loaner but undoubtably there is more to learn. It is easy to think that FF is the end all be all. I think from my personal experience, full frame still has an appeal that is difficult for me to find in MFT. Personally, I'm a young dude so the lightweight system of the MFT doesn't appeal much to me, the only thing that draws me back to MFT is pricing. However, as I've chosen to pursue this as a career, financially it has made sense for me to invest more money than I would as a hobbyist, so if I was a hobbyist maybe I would stick to MFT? I will say this, specifically the 300mm F4 that I used in this video shocked me at it's glass quality and made me second guess the MFT system. If there was a better sensor available for low light on the MFT system, they would be a much more serious contender in my mind. However, since I really value shooting in low light, I noticed the vast differences between MFT and FF and I wouldn't be willing to switch back to MFT at the moment mostly for this reason (depth-of-field being a close second).
@brucegraner5901
@brucegraner5901 Год назад
@@officialwilder I guess the only question now is to ask your subscribers if shooting in low light with the bonus of buttery smooth background bokeh is worth foregoing lower costs and lighter weight. I shot professionally for over 40 years with full-frame gear but right now I'm using the Lumix G9 and find it more capable than most people would think for wildlife photography with all the Lumix software upgrades and I love its ergonomics and the fact that it introduced pro-capture years ahead of everyone else. However, I wouldn't mind a G9 with phase detect autofocus. I look forward to your further adventures with the OM-1 and the feedback from your viewers.
@andigoetz1
@andigoetz1 Год назад
Hey Jeremy, could you pherhaps make a Comparison between the G9 and the OM1? I know the OM1 has better Autofocus and is faster. But i want to know how big is the Difference in terms of Image Quality.. And yes i know, it's also a question of the lens.. 😅🤔😊
@officialwilder
@officialwilder Год назад
Unfortunately I just shipped back the OM1 so I can't do a side-by-side... but I can tell you that image quality wise it really comes down to the lenses much more between these two cameras. The sensors are very close to identical from comparing images I have from the two :)
@andigoetz1
@andigoetz1 Год назад
@@officialwilder Thanks Jeremy for your Answer! It's like i thought. 😊
@rayjohn3587
@rayjohn3587 Год назад
Are all images unedited? I see a huge colour difference in the Willot pictures which stands out the most for me in that situation. Ofcourse there is also a difference in quality of composition there, but the colours just really stood out for me. For me the photographer will always be more important than the gear. A good photographer can make a decent picture with a shitty camera, but a shitty photographer cant make a decent picture with good gear without a good amount of luck. I liked the video man, keep doing what you are doing.
@officialwilder
@officialwilder Год назад
No, they are all edited which was to display the quality of photographer skill differences too :) so you're exactly onto what the point was haha. Gear isn't everything like you said
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