Let me know what you think in the comments! Regarding my comment on no access to Drive Modes or Regen levels on or behind the steering wheel, I've been informed that you can use the shortcut or favourite buttons on the left and right sides of the steering wheel to set this up.
That is excellent Derek if you can change drive modes via programmed button on steering wheel.. Hopefully you can show us that and night time trophy headlights in your full review some time. Your review is easily the best yet, i know as i have watched them all! :)
Looks like a really good value EV, especially with a 7 year warranty. In the UK MG have published 3yr PCP pricing - MG4 SE Standard Range (51kWh - 218 mile range) £300 per month MG4 SE Long Range (64kWh - 281 mile range) £350 per month MG4 Trophy (64kWh - 270 mile range) £410 per month (all packages are for 30,000 miles over 3 years with £4,000 deposit) - I think it will be very popular.
Derek! You’re sneaking into my Chinese EV niche over there! HAHA. Great to see these EVs making there way over. I hope more Chinese EV makers make the plunge to make RHD cars, would make some of the slow incumbents sit up and take real notice!
Ordered this in Jan 23 after alot of research (to the point of obsession!!) and this video was a huge weight in it's favour! sadly it didn't arrive until July 23 but luckily that meant I received the model year 23 version which has some changes, so for anyone considering an MG4 now (and you definitely should) the MY23 now has: + Rear wiper + Internal grab handles for passengers + centre headrest for rear passenger ++ One pedal driving! (I'm converted & want this on all my cars from now on) + slightly different design covers now resting on larger 18" alloys - Body coloured roof now on the Exclusive - no L2 & L3 pins on the charging port so AC charging is limited to single phase, which i think is 22kW? Luckily 99% of my charging is done on a 7kW Zappi at home but when public charging is needed thankfully there are more and more fast DC chargers being installed so I aim for those and there's no issue. All in all absolutely delighted with the car, all the positives hugely outweigh the small negatives, seems really well put together, comfortable (Exclusive spec) and even keeping the battery between 20-80% like I was advised i've little range anxiety as it covers my daily commute easily and long range drives just mean factoring in a rest stop (which I would be doing after 250-300km anyway) at a location with a DC charger. Thanks to Derek and Blake Boland too for sending me down this path! enjoying all the content so far keep it up!
Another excellent no nonsense review, top notch Derek. Just to let you know in UK the V2L adaptor is £269 extra from dealer and the type 2 charging cable is £120...i believe in UK you only get the granny 3 pin charging cable solution provided with car which is a little unusual just on it's own but fine.
I followed up and found Leaf 3500 lbs, SR MG4 3900, LR MGR shows 3700. The Leaf should be much more efficient given the weight difference; the other two have weights released that don't make sense given the larger battery pack size. If the database calculations are based on numbers released by the maker and not actual numbers the figures are useless.
This looks ace! Well done MG. Vehicle to load option mentioned at the end is a sweet cherry on the cake! I’m in ID3 Cupra Borne territory, and this looks like a value beast compared to those two.
@@senoow4215 yes, I really like what BYD are doing too, just about availability for me. LOL I’m not really in a position to buy a new car atm anyway, but if I was MG and BYD would be top of the list for their value for money.
Hi Derek .. Had almost my mind made up on the Kia Niro - You are now giving me second thoughts :-( Especially with the 7 Year warranty, which was swaying me towards the KIA - Although I believe its almost 37 Grand for top spec with Met paint here in Ireland - So not that much cheaper than the Niro !! Keep up the good work Derek, great review which helps us all make a more informed decision.
Great stuff Derek. This is a game changer for MG and the wider EV market. There will be more than a few execs from legacy automakers having a canary...
Great review. I love the styling on the higher level model I’d say price wise it’s a no brainier. If I was looking for a budget model EV I’d 100% go for this bang for $ it’s amazing value.
Looks like Good value. It's not easy to get a second hand EV with the same range for that price. New cars are not cheap but I can't see a second hand ID3 for this money. It's crazy that we are in a world where Ford, Vauxhall, Toyota, Honda and others don't offer a comparable sized pure EV. The sales figures will tell if the other have given away the market.
lovely review, I have a Trophy on order, a bit worried that bike rack won't work due to spoiler, maybe should downgrade to long range SE. (Came here from EV News daily BTW and subscribed, good luck getting to 10K, from the quality of this defo deserve).
Looks a great car for the money. If this was available a few months ago I might have considered one as it is cheaper than the Peugeot e208 I ordered (due in 2 weeks!). It does look like a direct copy of the ID3/Cupra Born but nothing wrong with that! Only thing that really irks me is no rear wiper - I tried an Ionic 5 last year (fabulous car) and the claims of not needing one are nonsense, especially on UK roads. Other than that it’s great to see how far EV’s have come over the last year.
Thanks for the comment Ian. I had the e208 for 4 months last year, did a video on my thoughts on the channel. Overall a very well rounded car. Agree on the back wiper. I'd love to try a water repellent coating to see if it made a difference
They are making very strong progress yet maintaining best value for money available . With a 2 seater sportscar and a luxury GT car in the pipeline as well as revised range of SUVs and an all new MG3 the turnaround recently is mighty impressive . What would really move the electric game along would be a restyled (with a more aggressive MG UK look ) version of the huge selling Wuling city car in China also owned by a joint SAIC/GM/Wuling for the UK and European market on sale here at under £8000.- It is so well received that really would convert large numbers of people in to a commuting/shopping/errands daily car in UK with negligible running costs and have a family car for long distances .
Excellent review. You showed all the details that I'm interested in as a buyer. Very useful to see the side-by-side with the Cupra. I still prefer the Born over the MG4 but head wins over heart. Hard to justify a £36k entry level price against a £32k top spec price. Subscribed off of this review.
Found your channel because of this video through Dan from fully charged . Some great content , very clear and detailed overview of the mg4 .👍 The mg looks like a cracking ev , hopefully this kicks the incumbents to making evs more affordable. This compared to vw / vauxhall offerings is great to see . Anything in the way of a phone app for the mg4 ?
Thanks for the comment Ricky and welcome on board! Glad you enjoyed the review and type of content I produce. There is an app. I'll look into it a bit more when I get the car again. MG UK has a quick video and talks about the iSmart app around 8 mins 30 secs in the video below ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OPJ8JDP0xDE.html
The higher spec trim certainly looks much better both front and back over the ex ite trim. The Excite looks a bit bare but they are both good cars just depends what someone needs and wants. MG should make a saloon version of this that would do really well in Ireland.
Thanks for the comment and the Solan idea sounds interesting. Do people want salons any more? The reduced range on the upper trim is what also sway someone the the long range excite. I too like the styling on the upper trim
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I think there is still a market in Ireland for saloons. Not everyone wants SUVs. There is still plenty of people driving saloons and I am sure some woukd love to replace it with another one and if it was electric even better.
I followed up with a look at the EV database; it lacks a weight spec for the cars so it is hard to judge. The leaf, the MG4 Sr and MG4 lr are listed; The SR shows a 60 kWH , Sr 51, the Leaf 39. Yet the efficiency are about the same supposedly even though there should be about a 10% weight increase for each 10kWh of battery; so I have to doubt these ratings particularly between the Sr and Lr it is unlikely they trimmed the body weight much to compensate for the battery increased weight.
Badge snobbery?!!.....This is by mindless sheep who know nothing about the brand and heritage......one of the only 3 foreign marque's to win the Mille Miglia, Le Mans, Speed Records......the lists goes on! Fabled racing drivers such as Stirling Moss, Earl howe, Capt Eyston, Donald Cambell, Tazio Nouvolari ect.........the likes of which VW and other brands (let alone KIA and Hyundai), could only dream about! Oh yes, and Chinese not British?.......in the same way that Jaguar land Rover is Indian and Rolls, Bentley and Mini are German and Vauxhall are French! And to sum it up, the world over is raving about its comparison to the Lamborghini Urus! A brilliant brilliant review by someone who takes the pure essence of a car, and distills it into what makes it great!👍
Thanks for another excellent review. It's a very impressive ev especially in higher level trim. A very good looking car. I don't think having to adjust most functions on the main screen is a major problem
Thanks for the comment Phillip. Very impressive and I'm told you can programme the shortcut buttons on the steering wheel to functions such as regen and driving modes
You've thrown the cat in with the pigeons now Derek. Im currently waiting for the Megane but for the likely price difference this might make more sense. Would like to support European manufacturers but huge potential savings. You've driven them both how do they compare?
Great review thanks, 👍🙏 it convinces me more and more i made the right choice of ordering one , the top spec of course ! Rear wheel drive is way better in vinter as all the korean cars ( kona & niro especially) and charging point is at the right place on the side not in the front like som other brands , stupid you ask me especially in vinter with slush/snow and ice, you c’ant open the charge point ! Also it has vinter driving mode like ionic 5 , just great in Norway for the mountain roads. Great value for money too.
Sorry but rear wheel drive is worse in snow , there are many engineering discussions on this. Rear wheel drive tends to over steer and unless you in the top 2% of drivers then rear wheel drive is more unpredictable to most. The worst case example is the big mustang ice cars with plenty of hilarious examples on you tube.
Loved this review! Is it possible that they removed thw rear wiper because the EV6 has a slit type spoiler (like in the MG4 higher spec) and ita designed to blow air onto the rear window so no need for a wiper? I was on the fence but this review has convinced me to buy!
Really appreciate the comment and let me know if it's still the case when you test drive it! The removal of the rear wiper could be that or they could have left the spoiler full and hid it underneath like Hyundai. The spolier actually lowers efficiency
I wished I showed the other colours now too. Thanks for the comment Steve. I hope you're well. I still haven't seen your colour IONIQ 5 on the roads over here yet
@@NevoEVReviewIreland All fine and dandy, thanks Derek. The teal is a chameleon colour, so perhaps it's blending into the green surroundings of the Emerald Isle :-)
How is the MG pilot? Does it work in the same way as Kia which will drive fully in lane and keep a distance to the car in front? Or does it only keep distance and warning of lane change. Nice review btw
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Epic. Would love to see all features of that. As I love it on my Esoul. Can you test the distance to car ahead at different speeds? 1. Longest distance to car ahead in A. City low speed B. National roads medium speed C. Motorway speed 2. Shortest distance to car ahead in the above mentioned speeds. Also can you test the cornering ability of the camera on a. Motorway B. National roads Be great to see the max steering angle possible at both speeds Finally can you test the in traffic steering? ESoul is very good at all of these so be great to compare. Thanks again. Love watching the vids. Keep up the good work. 🫡
Excellent review, all the info I needed. This is a strong contender for my next EV. My current car, Hyundai Ionique Premium SE (38kWh) does not have a rear wiper, not really a problem, you get used to it.
Nice to see your review of the MG4. So does it have a frunk? (hehehe) Love to see the charge curve on the MG4 to see how long is it at it's max charge rate if starting at a low SoC(10% or less). Interesting watched Jonny Smith review and he didn't show the two level boot system like you showed or it's not available in the UK. I like the centre console compared to the Polestar 2 being more open and not feeling hemmed in like the P2. How was the rear window in the rain during your drive without the wiper unlike the Cupra you showed? Any stat on the drag coefficient?
Thanks for the comment TassieEV1.Will try and get the charge curve for you. The level boot is definitely on the upper level trim in all markets. I think Jonny had the entry level one to review for the day and only got a small amount of time with the upper trim one. Rear windscreen was fine...I'd definitely be putting a coasting on it to repel dirt and water. Will come back with drag coefficient.
@@npr63 Thanks for the question. Something like this below www.micksgarage.com/d/glass-care/products/1135041/rain-x-rain-repellent-200ml?loc=ie&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-e2K-Zz2_AIV4ejtCh0cVwyJEAQYASABEgJ2p_D_BwE
Does the SE have keyless entry as well with the keyfob but not with your phone using bluetooth? Or do you need to lock/unlock the car by pressing a button on the keyfob? Thanks!
Hey, I'm thinking of buying the ev4 and want to see if it's worth getting the 64kw battery over th 54kw. Current car is always on the go and work 5 days is 50km each way. Thanks looking at the excite.
Excellent and informative review as ever. Nice car but the rear end especially that split spoiler doesn't blow my skirt up. A bit 1970s looking and fussy. The Cupra has a nicer rear end.
Thoroughly enjoyable rEView of a good looking car. Why they think a rear wiper is not needed is beyond me,, but will be popular,, if they can get them into Ireland
interesting review, and one of the most comprehensive I've seen so far. Important as I'm now in the queue in Ireland with money down! Questions: - What's your feeling about the road noise on motorways? A major deal breaker for longer drives? - the 360-litre boot measurement. Is that the boot volume up to the shelf, or all the way to the roof? And what is the volume when the floor is lowered in the Trophy model? - I see two cables in the front for charging? are both connectors USB-A or one USB-A and one USB-C? any idea what the charging speeds are? - An observation when seeing there isn't a glass roof: especially surprising to see that there's no roof rack rating..... - the flickering light above the steering wheel in the video: is that a driver monitoring camera? - A (random) question that probably relates to Qi chargers in all cars. will they charge an Apple Watch? Driving seems like an ideal time to give a watch a top-up..... - Lastly, you mentioned pricing. I've been told by an Irish dealer in Dublin that pricing will be (assuming the SEAI grant stays) €27k - €32k for the whole range. Impressive. Big difference to the ID.3 (same size) and Niro (exact same range). Considering the price of EVs in general, I've been very surprised/impressed by this offer. The roof box is a real challenge so I'm hoping you'll surprise me with the size of the boot when the floor is lowered :)
Thanks for the comment and great questions Neal. Let me see if I can answer then below. Questions: - What's your feeling about the road noise on motorways? A major deal breaker for longer drives? I don't think so. I'm recording so no radio on. I think it would balance it out with some music. - the 360-litre boot measurement. Is that the boot volume up to the shelf, or all the way to the roof? And what is the volume when the floor is lowered in the Trophy model? usually it's up to the shelf. I think, and I need to check, that the 360 is from the bottom of the boot well so in the SE trim and the flase floor ijn the Executive trim is actually eating into it. I will reach out to MG - I see two cables in the front for charging? are both connectors USB-A or one USB-A and one USB-C? any idea what the charging speeds are? One is A and one is C. They provided an apple connector and one for android users. No idea on the charging speeds, will find out for you. - An observation when seeing there isn't a glass roof: especially surprising to see that there's no roof rack rating..... A funny one alright - the flickering light above the steering wheel in the video: is that a driver monitoring camera? Yes, it's Infra Red so not visible to the naked eye, just shows on the camera footage. - A (random) question that probably relates to Qi chargers in all cars. will they charge an Apple Watch? Driving seems like an ideal time to give a watch a top-up.....It has the Qi charging logo so I assume compatible with all Qi compatible devices - Lastly, you mentioned pricing. I've been told by an Irish dealer in Dublin that pricing will be (assuming the SEAI grant stays) €27k - €32k for the whole range. Impressive. Big difference to the ID.3 (same size) and Niro (exact same range). I think prices will be around that and if so as I say, a game changer. Will confirm prices ASAP
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I can’t post screenshot here but copying/pasting from message on pricing: “….a quick update on the MG 4. We are now taking pre-orders for the MG 4 we have not yet got official pricing yet but we are anticipating a price between €27k to €32k depending on battery and spec. Only a few units due for delivery in quarter 1 of 2023.” Thanks for taking the time to answer the questions also 👍 I’m very intrigued with what they say about the boot size! Amusingly related to the roof rack, the Irish dealer told me it was likely due to range impact and also possibly strain on the motor! That’s a new one to me, and I also suggested they look at all the e-Niros and Tesla M3’s around that are quoted for the same range….. (according to ev-database).
@@NevoEVReviewIreland interesting, thanks. So that explains why the boot looks very small at the 'standard' floor level. At least it doesn't include above the parcel shelf as others have done.... Seems like a fantastic car and the only compromise you're making to some of the even larger cars (Leaf, Niro) is the boot: both are closer to 450 litres in size: a 33% increase.
I ordered an MG ZS right after Christmas, was informed yesterday it will be at least January 2023 before it’s delivered and even then , no guarantee, all very well being great value but the cars can’t be got
Hi Derek, is the frame around the windows different between trims. Don’t see it listed anywhere but the red in your video is very matte compared to gloss black on the orange.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland thanks a lot, currently run an Ioniq 38 and thought that other MG EVs went straight to friction via foot brake. Clearly theory says braking is wasteful etc etc but sometimes you have to in real life 🤣 and regen helps in those cases. We have a test drive in the MG4 lined up for Sun 25th Sept, I’m considering taking the Ioniq alongside on the route to get a direct comparison of efficiency.
Ooh... My decision is getting harder with every car you show. I was sure it was the Megane I was after and now I'm not sure as this looks great (and the Cupra is drawing me in as well)
I wonder how headlighs compare, on entry level it is projector LED, but on a top it is a reflector. Would be interesting to see what is better, I wonder if entry level will end up better.
Very informative; about WLTP. Is there a factor to convert WLTP milage to the older scale?. WLTP seems a better estimate; but do you really think any that claim1000km get it? See Bjorn Nyland's real driving tests. WLTP still leaves me guessing. EVs seem to perform quite poorly under load; I didn't hear that WLTP includes any. I have seen where EV pickup trucks towing trailers had range reduced to about 100 miles(warm weather)from 300 estimated . Maybe the solution shows a range of use. They should have a city / hwy figure. 4 numbers light city, light hwy, heavy city, heavy hwy. The consumer can then pick that which matches their driving needs and get a reasonably close guess as to what they will achieve.
Thanks for the comment Jim. I did a video on WLTP below. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ISHSZR-MCSM.html Also have a look at EV Database, they have some great real world estimates for different driving styles and temperatures. I've preselected the MG ZS EV Long Range ev-database.org/car/1541/MG-ZS-EV-Long-Range
Thanks for the comment John. If you mean the star buttons on the wheel either side? They can be programmed to be whatever you want them to be I'm told. I didn't get a chance to fully look at them but will do when I get the car in the future.
Good review. Constructively maybe you could have spoke of the wheels. Are they actually allows or very good trimed hubcap wheels? Ehats the story with heated seats and steering wheel on trim levels. A must know on electric cars
And the heated seats and wheel come only on the upper trim level. I think I mentioned the heated seats at the end but yes, I could have clarified the wheels in the video. Thanks for the feedback
Brilliant. Only a few things for me to question; the overwrought styling, the lack of proper knobs for the heating controls, and the lack of a rear wiper. This is a deal breaker for me, but it’s a very impressive car nonetheless.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland . A Honda HRV. It drove brilliantly, it’s comfortable and the noise when the motor cuts in at speed is no worse than the turbo in my present car. This seems to be a thing for some testers. Plus, it has parking sensors all round and a rear camera and wiper. If it ever arrives (component shortages) I’ll keep it for five years and then look at what will be a very different car environment. If it gets delayed or cancelled, possible, I’ll take a look at the MG. Lots of car makers seem to think I can manage without a rear wiper and a rear camera. I probably could, although given the congestion everywhere and my domestic parking arrangements it would be extremely inconvenient. I certainly can do without heated seats and a heated steering wheel, however.
Wow, wasn't even aware of this model, what a beaut Derek! Really excited about the better value brands looking very premium like this. Can't wait for a coast to coast (will you bring me 😂?)
Thanks for the comment. I'm looking forward to testing the new MG5. We still don't have it in Ireland or the UK. I'm flying to Copenhagen this weekend to review another EV!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Ofc buddy There is a MG dealer at Omøgade 20 in Copenhagen I think they have open from 11-16 both days on the weekend, That is where we tried the new MG5, You could always ask them to try it🤣
I really like it and, in my opinion, it's a better looking car than the ID3 and the Cupra Born. I'll definitely have it on my list of consideration for my next car.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland it's an eclectic list so far. I have a 2021 Fiesta ST at the moment so I'm thinking of something completely different next. I quite like the new EV Fiat 500 (practicality isn't a concern) but I'm also intrigued by the Suzuki Jimny, ven though it's a vsn now. Told you it's an eclectic list...
What is the battery chemistry? Excite / SE (51kWh): LFP (Lithim Iron Phosphate) Excite / SE Long Range (614WH): NCM (Nickel Cobalt Manganese) Exclusive / Trophy (64kWh): NCM (Nickel Cobalt Manganese)
the only thing I find annoying is having to enter the menu from the display to change the driving modes. I know there is a programmable button on the steering wheel, can't you program the one to navigate between driving modes?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Probably creates more drag instead of improving airflow... Weird alright. I think we'll be seeing a lot of these on the roads in UK/Ireland and fair play to MG, Phoenix story!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Well, since everyone else is making EV SUV's as these are , unsafe (statistics deaths/mile, all but 1 fail moose test, high roll over statistics with higher injury rate) fashion statements which statistically cost 10-20% more than equivalent saloon/hatch car by the same manufacture, then I did not mention this. ;)
My audio recording was a little unfair as I usually have a lavaliere mic on but not today. I think with the radio on, it would balance it out but with no internal music, it was a little loud.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland good to know. Think I’m gonna order one as soon as they are up. Hopefully we won’t be too long after UK. Hopefully keep at or below 30,000 at max for start price of the base model.
Very orange. Like very. It's been so longer since I drove the Megane I'd need to refresh my memory. There will be a big difference in price so not sure it's fair to compare.... This is more Zoe price and no competition there
I had the Megane reserved but after the shambles of the cut down UK spec i cancelled and have reserved an artic white MG4 Trophy. No contest in value for money and with higher MG warranty.
I did consider the orange but just too loud after seeing real world photos in last week. Green was my top choice but that is only available on the Performance model next year ( june / july 23)
2 great questions Byron and I don't have a definitive answer. I'll try and find out but will be getting it for a longer spin soon. With adaptive regen I assume so. Speed limiter I think will be diving into the dash or present one of the shortcut buttons on the steering wheel
Q -Does the cruise control use regen? Yes - when using ACC the vehicle decelerates, which passes energy back into the battery Q - Can the speed limiter be added as a favourite on the steering wheel? A - No it can’t
@@NevoEVReviewIreland ah I’ll have to get a long term test on it. The speed limiter needs to be ready on the stalk. I don’t see a stalk , is it on wheel buttons? And not having to go to screen to turn it on like the ZS. Not using friction braking while in ACC is good as people yoyo in front of you it’s not shaving off carbon material. Maybe it will be refused like the ID.3 for the taxi fleet . Boot size maybe .
@@NevoEVReviewIreland And getting into the car? I currently have a problem with the Audi A3, which I get in very deep and it is difficult for older people to get in or out.
Great review. One that really got to me. Dash has an i3 similarity. Boot much bigger than Ora Cat but below id and ionic etc. Volcanic orange did not look to bad. Will have to see it live. Can't wait for actual prices. A new car for the price of a secondhand Leaf. It's a no brainer (if i had a brain). Have to see it in the flesh. I have a new mission.... to try and get you to put your second hand on the steering wheel and not your leg. Wish me luck.😇 Great comments and the fact others are sharing the rEView shows how good you are. Onward and upwards to 33333 subscribers. REGARDS DES
Thanks for the comment and question Sharon. I think the technical term is "gubbins" 🤣 They may also be internally leaving it for the All Wheel Drive version
Thanks for the comment. The design won't be for everyone I suppose. Does the light bar on the upper trim make any difference to your liking or disliking of it?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland the lightbar looks cool, but on both trims it sticks out a lot. Also not the biggest fan of the spoiler, but do like the upper trim version of it more.
BEWARE MG4 long range Excite (Irish model) DOES NOT have long range 3-phase charging (Uk version does have 3-phase) Irish model only has 1-phase 6kW charging meaning that unless your workplace has a super fast CCS charger (they won’t) you will be looking at at least 10hours to get from 10 to 80% charge. You might get as little as 2kWhrs at an 11kW 3-phase charger!!!! A trickle charge ……dealership won’t tell you this !!!
I think the high performance version in 2022 might be like. Sounds interesting, but could be really pricey and might end up giving the rest of the range a "cheap version" vibe.
MG imported from China. MG owned by Chinese state. MG cheap because Communism and state control cut costs. We want more of this! Cheap products! New CommunistCapitalism is a win for the world!
