Miami Marlins are rebuilding AGAIN, this time it's different

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Further reaction to the Arraez trade and what that means moving forward for the Miami Marlins.
Peter Bendix will look to make a lot of moves to re-stock the farm system, it's the same strategy that Jeter had, why should we trust him to deliver?
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@One-Zig Месяц назад

Peter, thanks for your diligent coverage. Your questions are fair. Followed this team since its inception. Miami is a big city/market that supports teams/owners who are serious, and act like they’re in a big market. Past five years the Heat are top-five in fan attendance. Meanwhile Miami has the worst all time winning percentage of all active teams and we could look forward to never growing attached to quality players. There’s a reason why Marlins are the least valued team in MLB per Forbes

@gumball3D Месяц назад

Even though this team beat mine in the 2003 WS, I feel bad for the fan base knowing how difficult it is to contend in the NLE with a small market payroll and bad ownership during most of the team's history.

@zenman1001 Месяц назад

You mentioned that the success of a rebuild is linked to a two step process of: (1) "identifying" talent and (2) "developing" talent. I'd add one more step which is (3) "retaining" talent. I'm hopeful that Bendix, et al., is successful at those first two steps but I have zero faith that ownership will allow for the final step (retention). Our pattern is to develop young players and then trade them off to a deep pocket teams (e.g., Yankees) once they become good (and expensive).

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

True, but this strategy is essentially an opportunity game, that is, aligning affordable talent within windows of opportunity.

@mivida11172011 Месяц назад

Pratt. Great observation. How many rebuilts do we need to be a part of? Luis, was someone we could build of. There are great players we could have build of. If the owner cannot afford the team sell it. Or open it up for more investments

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

You said it - there's no guarantee - it's always a crapshoot. Both sides. Injuries can't be predicted (except for Chisholm and Puk). I expect significant results year-to-year.

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

You also exactly tied the strategy with a strong developmental system (and sharp front office). These two parts are bookends, so proceeding with the farm revamp is a prerequisite. As a segue, even teams like the Astros had to revamp and suffer for a bit. No matter the past, these things don't fix themselves. We must start the process - no option.

@zenman1001 Месяц назад

Thank you for a spot on evaluation of Luis Arraez as a player. Growing weary of simpletons who like to crap on his value because he "only" hit 10 home runs last year and does not have a Gold Glove. Last year he became the only Marlin to ever hit for the cycle; an All-Star starter for the NL; and generated a BA of over .400 for a good portion of the season. He's a 2x All-Star, 2X Batting Champion; and 2X Silver Slugger. He's only 27 and demonstrates top notch competitiveness & leadership on the field. It's indisputable that the list of players over the past decade who draw frequent comparisons to Tony Gwynn is a very short one. Yet some of the "fans" are now calling him over-rated and insist on claiming he was undesirable to other teams.

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

Arraez talents were going to be wasted on the Marlins, like Trout with the Angels. This trade was at minimum very good, potentially excellent. I believe it will look extremely lopsided in four years

@zenman1001 Месяц назад

@@ashevillecomics637 We can agree on one thing. Arraez's talents would be wasted on the Marlins. Unfortunately, the same thing applies to every other player & coach on this team.

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

@@zenman1001 For now that does seem to be the case, however I can tell you that this trade, the first of what I believe will be many, was very Moneyballesque player wise. High on base guys, lots of potential. I've been watching Martorella for a couple of years, and to a lesser extent Marsee. Apparently neither projects with as much upside as Head. At the moment Head doesn't have many pro stats to judge his talents, but he batted nearly .500 in high school

@Jasontyo Месяц назад

What a bummer.

@MiamiCuz305 Месяц назад

I am hopeful that Peter Bendix will build a great farm system which may lead to a perennial contending Marlins team. By then, will Bruce Sherman still own the team, or will you have a Mets type owner with deep pockets?

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

I firmly believe this is exactly what will happen, and I truly hope that the team is sold in that time to someone who wants to win and is willing to spend when necessary.

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

Agree that the unicorn season was 💯 unrepeatable. It was serendipitous, plain and simple. The pitching injuries guaranteed it.

@bryangonzalez4604 Месяц назад

Hey Joseph how are you

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

@@bryangonzalez4604 Howdy, Bryan. Doing great. How's it going with you?

@bryangonzalez4604 Месяц назад

@@thomasjoseph3488 I’m good I decided to not be a marlins fan no more because of how bad the ownership is and how we get rid of good players. I’m gonna be a Phillies fan.

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

@@bryangonzalez4604 I understand. I know you had a previous connection to the Phillies, and that's good. Whatever makes you happy as a fan. I like the Bendix strategy and will stick around to see it through. You can always come back, of course! Take care.

@bryangonzalez4604 Месяц назад

@@thomasjoseph3488 yeah I can always come back but yeah it’s because of bad ownership and trading good players away for bad prospects and and not extending our stars.

@zenman1001 Месяц назад

It typically makes more sense to wait on rebuilding trades until we are closer to the deadline. Teams that are in the playoff hunt at that point in the season will be more desperate to acquire the remaining piece or two they feel they need to put them over the top. Letting it go very close to the deadline entails some risk, but it is when the Marlins will have the best leverage for securing the greatest return (especially if a multi-team competition sprouts up for a particular player).

@aaronchapman3 Месяц назад

I think the only MLB team fan base that has it worse than Miami is Oakland. The A's don't sign anybody either and the team is currently in a lame duck status as they slowly move out of town, technically that seems worse than the Marlins situation in my opinion

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

The As are a .500 team, and were far and away a better front office team than the Marlins. That changes with the arrival of Bendix, who will turn this team around in short order.

@aaronchapman3 Месяц назад

Miami has already traded with San Diego but if Jazz and Luzardo have to go, I want to see Ethan Salas as the return.

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

The Padres think too much of Salas to let him go for Jazz, who has mostly been a disappointment in comparison to the expectations.

@mayquelmiranda6282 Месяц назад

What ever work in Tampa does not mean is gonna work in Miami

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

Incorrect. Look at Theo Epstein. Turned around the Boston Red Sox, winning two titles, then goes to the Cubs and does it again. Bendix is a baseball guy in the same vein. The Marlins will be a playoff team within 4 years. The trade the other day was potentially excellent for the Marlins, and showed me they are on the right track. Now time to dump Chisholm, Bell and anyone else with value, for some top prospects.

@bradgast3028 Месяц назад

Because of injury, Luzardo's trade value has dropped. So he might not bring back what you want.

@SocratesRR90 Месяц назад

There was a post on Instagram about him being traded next. He liked the post. Might be nothing.

@LockedOnMarlins Месяц назад

👀

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

Bruce Sherman is an owner who is content with, and prefers to run a stripped down team that makes tens of millions from the league luxury tax. If the MLB were operated like the English Football League, the Marlins would be a AA team at best. The Marlins used to at least be a team that could develop incredible hitters in their own system. Now? They not only cannot draft or develop decent hitters, but the great pitching prospects they manage to draft, they destroy with poor development. Derek Jeter is a winner, Bruce Sherman is not.

@dennislopez1272 Месяц назад

We need relegation in baseball. Watch how quickly they'll spend money once they're relegated to double A. These clowns will be content on collecting luxury tax money and fielding farm system in the major leagues. What a joke.

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

@@dennislopez1272 so true!

@alexleonjr Месяц назад

😢it’s a sad day anytime you lose an elite player like Arraez. Rebuilding the team around Luis Arraez would have been my direction.

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

By the time the Marlins were good enough to contend, Arraez would be on the downside of his career. This was a very good trade for the Marlins, wait and see

@aaronchapman3 Месяц назад

Everybody says Tampa Bay doesn't spend money but they actually spent a sh1tload on Wander Franco. Even the Rays locked up their very best, young players

@ashevillecomics637 Месяц назад

They spend smart, that's the difference. Locking up a potential perennial all-star early saves the team tens of millions in the future if that player becomes what he is projected to be. The Braves are masters of this strategy

@isaiahboffill5692 Месяц назад

I don’t want the marlins to be like the rays or copy the rays they are the marlins only difference the marlins have 2 World Series not because of the owner ship at one point the marlins had a true legit GM the marlins only legacy player is Jeff Conine

@dalecono Месяц назад

The will be no trade value for Jazz...he's at best a 4th outfielder on a contending team and probably a CF for a bad team that is looking for outfielders...we won't get major league ready talent we won't get top prospects for we won't get high draft picks...he's a .250 average hitter, average defensive player, alot flamboyance and little return

@arturodeleon-my3mg Месяц назад

Been a marlins fan forever. And unfortunately we have to go through this again… but hopefully Peter bendix can bring something in return from it. Dillon Head actually look’s promising. Sad reality for us is that this is gonna be another long process and hopefully this time we don’t blow it up when we get good again

@MarlinsIX Месяц назад

its different because they are only focused on analytics...this is an unhealthy way to approach rebuilding a baseball team. You need a mixture of analytics and also the human aspect. Not everything can be measured in numbers and data points.