Miaodao Saber | 苗刀：传统技法 中华武风 

Spaniards did it too with rapiers.

@@allengordon6929 latin dads

What is mathematic ? Mathematic is that which is learnt by thinking clearly about simplest things in das universe; Math is what I get to know. Therefore, math=mental jujitsu. It is called congfu

@@satnamo my definition of meth: 🧨💥

什么至高之术😂

@Stehr Mariano 這位言必稱殺人的兄弟，你所說的舞蹈會幾招？殺人劍又會幾招？

@@taekkychen 哈哈哈，中二病而已

華夏龍血，至尊至貴。 即使是戰時，也不能留下一滴 但鬼子不僅讓龍族流血，還留下不只一滴 導致南京地兒裏骸骨年年不斷增生 死人比戶籍人口整整多出十倍 原本毛Baby只想蓋座受難黨員紀念館 但無奈䣝S議題太香太好操弄了，所以就弄了個TS紀念館騙騙韮礦😅

🤣🤣🤣

RIP Grandmaster Yu ChengHui a Great Grandmaster of double handed straight sword and kung fu and actor who played against Jet Li in the Shaolin Temple

Please preserve religious culture in China too, Buddhism in China is huge and we would lose thousand years of history if more temples were being destroy at this rate.

Same to japanese and other asian cultures.

@@RichterBelmont2235 What the hell are you talking about? There is a ton of Buddhist temples in China

@@janusjones6519 There are a systematic demolition of many Buddhist temples going on in China. Watch the damn news.

@@RichterBelmont2235 source please

枪本身就是百兵之王，因为最高效率杀人就是放血，一枪戳进去放血20秒内人就萎了，半分钟不到就失血性休克昏迷然后逐渐死亡失去抵抗。钝器和劈砍 更好格挡和反击，而且砸不到要害也不会直接致命。

Yes I thought his calligraphy was beautiful.

"Dāo jiàn wú yǎn!"

The Miaodao, as well as the Katana, IMO is the optimum shape for a sword. The Double edged, straight sword it appears is good for stabbing, and perhaps even slashing, but why would any sword fight require two edges, with one sharp edge facing the Wielder? It doesn't make much sense. Plus the curved blade, allows for better slashing, and two handed handled, is always better than one. The Miao Dao/katana shape is good for slashing and stabbing, whereas straight swords are not so good for slashing.

@@_Wai_Wai_ I agree I have general knowledge of how to use two edged swords But I find Katana/Saber shapes the best to use, it just feels more natural to me Rapiers and Jians are the only exceptions because they are easy to manuever around the opponent’s sword so I find those to be very good as well But in the end I prefer the curved Katana/Miaodao/Hwando

The origin of miadao originated after the ming's encounter with the Japanese wakou or pirate and Japanese invasion of korea during the imjin war. The chinese dao did originate from China, but they were not curved.

@@_Wai_Wai_ If you think double edge sword doesn't make much sense just because the false edge is pointed at the user, you should look up how the longsword were used, for example the Zwerch technique. People don't just use the front edge all the time, they constantly switching and attacking with the 2 edges. 2 edges gave you more cutting angles and feint attacks. Also, the Chinese, Japanese and Korean curve sword has almost the same cutting capacity as the European longsword, it's just that the longsword has more techniques to play with. The indian, middle east, european sabers however, their heavily sword curvature actually cut better than South Asia curve sword and European straight sword

猫刀起源于日本。这是由于剑的设计模仿了日本武士刀和太刀的组合。中国人认为它是国宝，但他们不知道。他们所说的猫刀只是日本众多刀具中的一种。所以请尊重历史事实

That’s because HEMA is very niche, and nerds don’t have the arrogance to be racist. If HEMA was as popular as MMA I guarantee there will be HEMA fanboy squads talking dumb shit on these videos.

@@peterwang5660 I see . But I thought HEMA stood for Historical European Martial Arts . Miaodao is obviously a Chinese weapon and not from Europe .

@@alexliu5636 Exactly, the “Asian martial arts (except Muay Thai) are only good for movies, only western martial arts actually work” crowd. Now that we’re on this topic I should mention that I appreciate your self-confidence in our martial heritage, but I really hope you’re being smart about it and not training with some con man, it is still important to recognize that in the modern day it is hard to train kung fu for combat sport or self defense because there’s few legitimate accessible ways to do it.

@@peterwang5660 HEMA practitioners are rarely shunned other countries's weapon martial arts, since there are more ways to use melee weapons than hand to hand combat. Most folks respect other countries arts and weapons

For honor

@@thatoneguypatrickbateman yeah, sorry that I couldn't help myself

Every art is based on science, and mostly martial arts :)

It has always been there.

The Spanish were big on this with their Destreza rapier and greatsword style. A lot of that greatsword style is very similar to this miaodao style.

I love Tang blade, it is a long blade knife as well.

Aye, the miao dao sword is so beautiful and elegant!!!

Indeed this deserves more recognition. Example of how underrated Miao dao is

This is basically a Chinese nodachi, it was made specifically to fight against Japanese pirates who used mostly nodachis

@@linusmota9712 As the master said, it was used during the time of cavalry. And as my master tell us, it was used to cut the legs of horses. It is the sword used in Song style xing yi and the ancestor of odaichi.

@@MustAfaalik the one you are referring to, is the zhanma dao (Japanese: zanbatou) The miao dao was adopted from the Japanese wokou pirates who user nodachi. Along with an Aizu ryu sword manual, the miao dao was created along with techniques

@@roho741 Didn't you watch the video? The narrator explains the miaodao has a much longer history, as far back as the Han dynasty, and this is proven by archeology. It is NOT adapted/adopted from the nodachi. More likely the other way round.

@@linusmota9712 Miao dao is Chinese version of nodachi, yes. But never a copy of nodachi. Japanese pirates rarely used nodachi is because 1) it’s expensive and 2) less effective in combat, they preferred rifles or canons if they were rich. Miao dao was reintroduced to rival katana precisely because 1) General Qi was specialised in long range weapon. If you guess it right, spear was his favourite because his martial strategy was “the longer the weapons, the more lethal they are”, 2) Spears weren’t effective against katana as the pole were easily cut off. 3) The pirates were much threatening in close combat, 4) Japanese were shorter back in the days, while ming armies were taller, so they used longer and thicker sword, hence Miao Dao.

国家不太推畅

不让杀人中国武术和刀术、枪术都快失传了！现在都说传统武术是骗术，可是几千年来中国那么多战争，战场上的将领和士兵都靠吐口水比赛加官晋爵的吗？

@@boluomi99 古代中国老百姓也不让有兵器，从来都是官兵习武。武侠小说看太多了

没办法，首先国家现在根本没有尚武的精神，讲究中庸和谐！而且好多古武技非常注重实战的杀人技国家肯定不会提倡的！

@@oo77777 一个人的武林看过吗？王宝强在电影里说过一句话，武功是杀人技，不是小孩子打架，是要分生死的

Yue Fei? Are you high bro The video clearly said that the weapon can be traced back to the Han dynasty Yue Fei was born a thousand years later

@@yuenhai what he means to say is that the use of two handed Dao (single edged swords) started in the Han dynasty but the Miao Dao itself was developed later and was incorporated into Xing Yi Quan, Piguaquan, etc.

对啊 怎么成汉代了

@@user-hr4mz8ee9o 排日吧，畢竟是在日本改良後又傳回來的

不会说错吧，文物在那

@@leo-ds8en 汉代的文物也不长这样 汉代是环首 直刀或者向内弧度

But science dated the ancient swords to Han dynasty.

No it's not. The katana is very different to this beast. Different purpose, different blade length and width resulted in different way of using. The only similar thing is the disc guard, which is very popular in South Asia countries swords

Khá giống Gươm trường của nước mình. =)))

Unfortunately that's true for a large number of styles. Including european martial arts.

The chinese has been doing Miao Dao combat sparring with HEMA approach a few years back

maybe you forgot if you are watching chinese goverment's program here

@@XianWangTheo You are correct, it is hard though to find topics like these that aren't heavily controlled by the "government"

@@d.e.seymour6792 Much of archeology work is funded by government anyways all around the world. Except for Indiana Jones maybe but how often do you find such work in the private industry? Are you suggesting that the science in dating those artifacts is wrong?

@@simplica1 I was just using my knowledge that this video got some errors.

@@d.e.seymour6792 there is always new findings that can defy existing knowledge.

I'd love to live there

猫刀起源于日本。这是由于剑的设计模仿了日本武士刀和太刀的组合。中国人认为它是国宝，但他们不知道。他们所说的猫刀只是日本众多刀具中的一种。所以请尊重历史事实

@@vanducbui6346 猫刀 lol.....

@@vanducbui6346 你是机器人吗，还是一直复制粘贴啊

Not an expert, but the main idea that I have is ease of practice - straight swords demand more training because of their pointed blades, allowing for a more "refined" technique for thrusts. A curved blade, however, is easier to learn because it is more focused on cutting, which is a more "simple" technique of attack.

It could be the horse cutting saber, a type of sword, that, well, cut horses down, it have long handle and a long blade that looks like an extended version of the katana

Yeah, I believe the Chinese basically copied the Japanese sword shape after being repeatedly attacked by Japanese pirates.

@@cpa314 yeah basically,first the tang dynasty made the heng dao, the Japanese scholar took inspiration from that and made their tachi and other katana-like swords, then the Chinese got out match during the ming dynasty by the pirates and the Chinese took inspiration from that.

@@thebeggar1721 Then the Imjin War happened where Japanese outnumbered the Ming and still lost.

@@thebeggar1721 Stop spreading misleading information here. Online article stated that Katana is derived from Warabiteto (蕨手刀). Asides from the Chinese site, nothing has suggest that Katana is based on Tang Dao. Besides, Tang Dao was not even curved. The Tang Dao theory is pretty much a controversy.

槍才是主刺，矛頭所開刃面較廣，掃揮撩的技巧較多

idk if Han dynasty dao is necessary the same as Miao dai(Ming dynasty) . But Han dao is definitely the ancestor of katana/nodachi

日本刀源于唐刀

日本刀源於唐代

Not for very close combat.

I think it looks rather cool

Tang: invents tang dao Japan: imma take that Japan: invents odachi Ming: imma take that Ming: invents miao dao

@@layersofonion8073 Miaodao was invented in Han dynasty not Ming dynasty.

@@shanzi1930No, the miao dao was invented during the Ming dynasty and was used up until the chinese republican era.

猫刀起源于日本。这是由于剑的设计模仿了日本武士刀和太刀的组合。中国人认为它是国宝，但他们不知道。他们所说的猫刀只是日本众多刀具中的一种。

打个比方，当你要做90度下劈的时候，刀刃理应成 “ I ” 式，刀刃刀脊刀背一条线，不应该是 “/” 或者 “\”式。

@@jackluo1126 哦，原来是这个意思。谢谢解释。这不就是使刀的常识吗？ 没有更简单通俗的说法？比如“刀口对正。。。”？

其实这一话注重于“一条直线”。视频中的大师说的没错，挥刀时其实非常难砍出嗖嗖嗖声。 除非你刀功很稳很快，笔直一条线，才能做到好似把风给切裂了的声音，否则最多只能是呼呼呼声。

@@LaifuLama 就是刀脊要正，这样劈砍更有穿透性。

劍道中叫“刀筋”，指肢體動線+斬擊切線+刀身朝向，三者完全重合。 刀筋不正，就會出現類似“拍”的狀態。 在完全重合的狀態下，迅速流過刀刃的空氣，與刀刃上的“樋”（大部分人誤以為血槽）發生的銳利哨音。 這位师傅說得是對的，刀筋越正，速度越快，哨音就越亮。

GrandFather - Miao Dao(sabre from Han Dynasty) Father - Tang Dao(sabre from TangDynasty) Imitation - Katana.. copied and modified during and after Tang dynasty in Japan

@@ricflair4052 No.After the invasion of Toyotomi Hideyoshi against Korea, one of the Ming's general started to research katana and how to use them.

@@ksmsepk607 check with your local old generation blacksmith. Even Japanese Blacksmith admitted they modified Tang Dynasty sword and turn it into "Katana". There is a documentary show on this , where these blacksmith in Japan are interviewed .

@@ricflair4052I'm not talking about the origin of katana. Miaodao is not from Tang or Hang era.The beginning of them is that 程宗猷 wrote 単刀法選 in 1621. And actually miaodao was called 倭刀,it directly means Japanese sword. I like Chinese culture and people.But what you said is nonsense.

​@@ksmsepk607 U are right, Miao Sword is not from Han dynasty , I got the name of the sword in Han Dynasty wrong. However I am right on the fact there is a Sword that existed in Han dynasty and it continues to Tang Dynasty . it was at this point , both China and Japan have exchanges, Katana didnt exist yet. it was after Japan imported a lot of sword from China(tang dynasty) and modified it and from here, Katana is born. and later in later part of history , In Ming dynasty a general modified Katana due to Japanese pirates pillaging china , and Miao sword was born to fight Japanese pirates. see this link below for the history of Tang sword , Katana and Miao sword. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VwQCcbuEKZ4.html

不打套路还去砍人？

苗刀基本上就是源自日本的野太刀或者武士刀吧。而武士刀源自日本自家的蕨手刀。武士刀源自唐刀的说法一直都有争议！

书也是人写的，刀法本来就是流动相克和且相互吸收借鉴的，谁又能证明日本刀不是学习和借鉴的汉唐？

@@user-fz7cm3yk3i 懂，虽然你没了解过，但你只要敢说你就是对的。

@@user-fz7cm3yk3i 现代的苗刀制式都是明朝的戚继光留下的。以前的双手刀不是苗刀。

@@user-fz7cm3yk3i 猫刀起源于日本。这是由于剑的设计模仿了日本武士刀和太刀的组合。中国人认为它是国宝，但他们不知道。他们所说的猫刀只是日本众多刀具中的一种。所以请尊重历史事实

The problem is Mao tried to replace all the martial arts with sports during the cultural revolution so a lot of the martial arts in modern China are modern stylized imitations of previous combat forms. From some of the techniques you saw him perform it appears this art is one of the new martial dance forms. Also his fancy sword is blunt.

因為稱來苗刀來源倭刀不符合清共囶的政治正確唄！但明朝人都承認了自家的雙手刀法來源於倭，清共囶再撇開源流與否並無實際意義!

@小gao比利 互相学习可以，但是历史就是历史也不能绕过日本说就是汉代传下来的吧，日本刀的原型也不是环首刀而是唐代横刀和日本自己的蕨手刀的混合产物，而横刀和环首刀在宋元两代就已经在中国基本消失了，借鉴了就是借鉴了，没啥不好出承认的

秦时的刀，做不了这么长。

@@LobyLiang 去廣州南越王 博物館看看就知道

@@peterpeter3838 有机会一定去，谢谢

文物都摆在那了我相信文物

文物是环手刀，跟苗刀没有直接继承关系

@@markey5427 形状是一样代说明途也差不多，我没看出苗刀和汉代斩马刀什么区别。《汉书》有载：“王莽使武以斩马挫董忠。”《汉书·朱云传》亦载：“臣愿赐尚方斩马，断佞臣一人头，以厉其余。上问谁瘪对日安昌侯张禹。”颜师古注曰：“斩马利可以斩马也。”《唐六典》卷十六即载：“刀之制有四：一曰仪刀、二曰障刀、三曰横刀、四曰陌刀…。陌刀，长刀也，步兵所持，盖古之斩马”，《新唐书》亦有“刀重十五斤”之记载。清王《兵仗记》中亦云：“斩马刀，一名砍刀，长七尺，刃长三尺，柄长四尺，下用铁钻。马步水路咸可用。”

@@lingmu2048 苗刀是明末戚继光在绣春刀的基础上结合日本刀的特点发明，也是吃了日本刀的亏后，专门研发来克制日本刀，也说明单手握砍的明刀实战思路不如双手握砍的日本刀。和秦汉实战思路更没有什么继承关系。现在的所谓传统武术跟战国秦汉时期也没有什么继承关系。要说继承，日本的武术思路更类似战国秦汉时期的那种尚武风格。

日本刀官方承认了日本武士刀是唐刀改良版

日本人还真承认日本刀，起源于唐刀（日本现在还有几把唐刀），然后做了改进。关键是唐帝国和现在的中华人民共和国，还有多少关系。

@@chao5s 扯淡呢。日本人只说日本刀是根据汉刀改的 没人说唐刀。

刀剑也是有传承的，你要非说是改良于汉刀也没什么问题，但是武士刀的确跟唐刀中的唐横刀更接近些！

因为日本汉代跟中原基本上没什么交流，大规模交流是唐代开始的所以大多数技术都是唐代传过去，这也是武士刀跟唐刀更有渊源的一个解释

首先是苗，苗族的苗，请尊重其他民族。最早苗刀出土于汉代。不知道日本有没有更早的考古发现呢

日本本来就是山寨版中国

算是吸收了新阴流的技法和日本刀的刀姿改造的大刀

@@dizzarzSTA 错。

@@codychan4926 I’m not even Chinese you dumbas

@@codychan4926 滚远点。

I heard is Tang sword instead. Chinese has the believe that sword should be straight to remind that a person must be upright. Human and sword become one. During that time Tang dynasty have the technique to prevent the sword from bending during the crafting process, while Japan doesn't have. So when cooling the sword, it will contract and bend, yet the bend sword become what the Japanese like and powerful.

nah，miao dao is what the Ming dynasty imported katana from japan and modified it. tang dao, which is a straight blade, is what japan took from China and modified it.

看到一些留言说倭刀源自唐刀，这肯定是误解，在中国找祖宗也轮不到唐刀。至于片中的苗刀我首先说一下它肯定是中国刀/刀法。不过发展源流跟明代一类仿倭双手长刀有一定关系(受野太刀影响，但刀姿/截面有不同)，明长刀>清绿营长刃大刀>苗刀

現代功夫傳承下來的有多少是實戰過的,大部分都有被後人修改過,可能只剩少部分是沒修改過的

学習破鋒八刀來得實際

Bullshitdo 大和騙しい

@长者居中 It's impractical, more impractical than the european long sword

If you guys don't know him, he is an unemployed Indian and has hundreds of accounts just to dump rubbish in this channel.

@长者居中 all of it, that's why it was never used in a conventional war

Meanwhile in reality, two handed single curved edge swords were used world over in relevant contexts because they're very effective at what they do. European equivalents would be two handed falchions, gross/kreigsmessers, swiss sabres, etc. Exact blade geometry varies as all of these, including miaodaos, are broad categories and its the hilt designs that distinguish them. They're all functionally much the same. All else being equal a longsword, or equivalent double edged two hander is liable to be slightly lighter and therefore more nimble, and the second edge opens some offensive options, and they're a little more effective on the thrust. While a sabre design may be slightly heavier but and is more optimised towards the cut, and the flat back edge offers different options. Both honestly are somewhat niche weapons that only became widespread in specific contexts, there's a reason the majority of swords in history were one handed. Two handers come to the fore either when armour is sufficiently good that you don't need a shield, or there is a pressing need for the extra length. They are also - with the exception of specific ceremonial or executioner variants - very much weapons of war. In fact as they are *primary* weapons and not sidearms like most swords, they are arguably more so.

@@Wirrn I appreciate your comments which offer me knowledge of western long sword. I visited the brother of the master in the video a month ago in Cangzhou, China and have learned a set of Miao Dao with him. From my limited knowledge, I think a lot of the Miao Dao techniques are either missing or not being tested in real weapon fight yet.