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Michael Fremer Updates His House Ground For Sonic Performance 

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From Fremer:
"I used to have major ground noise issues and other problems with my electrical service that I tried to solve as most audio enthusiasts do, with power conditioners and dedicated lines. Those produced some improvements, but there still were issues.
The proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back" was the installation of an auxiliary whole house generator and its transfer switch, that when power goes out, removes the house from the grid and connects it to the generator.
Following the installation, I was shocked to hear the unexpected sonic deterioration to my system-it was like a milky, gauzy film had been overlayed upon the music.
I wrote about it and two guys came to the rescue, volunteering their time and expertise: Rex Hungerford of www.kingrexelectric.com and Ed DeVito of audio-ultra.com. They were working together at the time this video was shot, but since then they've gone their separate ways. My local electrician Craig Bradley did much of the work since Rex is licensed in the state of Washington and I'm in New Jersey. I also got a great deal of support and help from Garth Powell at AudioQuest. I thank them all.
As you'll see in the video, much of the improvement was the result of a big upgrade to the house ground, which previously was kind of a mess.
The sonic improvement made by this "from the roof" upgrade caused more than a few industry veterans who visited to exclaim "This is the quietest system I've ever heard." That's not how it used to be!
If you live in a private home, I urge you to consider this kind of upgrade, which admittedly will cost thousands of dollars, before you invest heavily in in-room power conditioners. Those may also help depending upon the situation but first start with a firm electrical foundation!"
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@philippusviridi6527
@philippusviridi6527 6 месяцев назад
All I can say if it makes him happy that is all that matters.
@zerocapacitance1
@zerocapacitance1 4 месяца назад
Thank you!!
@edd2771
@edd2771 11 месяцев назад
Re the thumbnail caption "have audiophiles gone too far?" - In a word, yes.
@giscardrutten6896
@giscardrutten6896 11 месяцев назад
I think you should really run proper copper aaaaaalllll the way to NY to the power plant! Gotta start at the beginning!
@1999zrx1100
@1999zrx1100 11 месяцев назад
I did the same on my 90 year old house, dedicated lines to my system and all. There was certainly a sonic improvement not to mention piece of mine. 🤓
@Random-kq4pz
@Random-kq4pz 11 месяцев назад
I think this video was posted before on RU-vid. It is good.
@labalo5
@labalo5 11 месяцев назад
Rex is the man! Come down to my house please!
@bayard1332
@bayard1332 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for this one, I was/am just contemplating the ground situation in my Palace.
@nickgend
@nickgend 5 месяцев назад
Man, your wife must love you. Tidy your room!
@chrisrichards2827
@chrisrichards2827 11 месяцев назад
look at all those illegal TV cable connections outside naughty naughty Mr fermer
@costelloandsilke7321
@costelloandsilke7321 11 месяцев назад
I'm surprised the external ground (earth) cable isn't sheathed and in conduit before it is buried. In Europe all ground cables need to be insulated - since 2017 in the case of mains cables, double insulated.
@bobk3840
@bobk3840 10 месяцев назад
Being an engineer, the answer is a definite YES. Aluminum wire, not my favorite.
@benny79714
@benny79714 11 месяцев назад
Installed a generac generator on my home and heard zero degradation in sound quality. This is on Revel Salon 2 speakers and benchmark AHB2 amps.
@adv.rohitl.jbrasdesa2402
@adv.rohitl.jbrasdesa2402 9 месяцев назад
A Audioquest power cable from the the Electricity Generator all the way to Michael Fremer house will definitely make remarkable difference to Vinly sound quality. It will be like Easter 🎉
@monsieurgolem3392
@monsieurgolem3392 4 месяца назад
Lol
@RobertChampion1
@RobertChampion1 11 месяцев назад
No, not to far for obsessive audiophiles! I installed a new ground rod and a continuous copper path through my panel to the 4 dedicated feeds to my system. Big improvement! Thank you Michael!
@bloodcarver913
@bloodcarver913 11 месяцев назад
Most GENs deliver dirty power. I installed Solar and a huge battery bank and put the whole house on the batteries. Perfect sound 24/7. Sol Ark (Deye) inverters.
@lostandfoundsounds
@lostandfoundsounds 10 месяцев назад
👍 Generators are dirty. Inverter/generators, though, are clean, and safe for electronics in a home (appliances and HVAC, chargers, TVs, networking, etc.) although I wouldn't fire up my "good" system during an outage anyway.
@Super-Poopa
@Super-Poopa Месяц назад
i heard about that too from someone whos generally against those audiophile quirks hes a music producer, and he swears on an additional disconnected power battery if i remember, he was using a battery from stromtank. extremely expensive.. atleast 10.000 bucks. But he says the sound is like transformed and crystal clean. Can u tell me which system do u use to do this? I cant spend 10.000 bucks.. atleast for now.
@gregorydijoseph5873
@gregorydijoseph5873 11 месяцев назад
We’ve been priced out with wages not keeping up with inflation and price increases that are not seen in other industries. It’s a shame.
@robbiedetroitstigermanviny8883
@robbiedetroitstigermanviny8883 4 месяца назад
You F*ckin kidding me Fremer!
@monsieurgolem3392
@monsieurgolem3392 4 месяца назад
A man in Japan did this many years ago and thats where fremer got it.
@Roof_Pizza
@Roof_Pizza 11 месяцев назад
In another universe he has 200+ cats.
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 11 месяцев назад
I'd also check with insurance companies if anybody covers record collections and gear and see about including a rider/writer.
@bmelzak
@bmelzak 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely, it's really insanity that can be done because he works for a "high end" magazine. Obviously, the lp is a limited format sonically. An AR XA was certainly fine, a LINN LP12, too. Redoing home power supplies, etc. seems just bizarre. The best sound I ever heard was from paired KLH9s, classic Marantz tube amplification in a 1960s NYC hifi show. All wired with ZIPCORD! I say this as a licensed psychoanalyst and am quite aware of various obsessions. A McIntosh MAC7200 is perhaps all most people need!
@user-ex9zm7bg3x
@user-ex9zm7bg3x 9 месяцев назад
so you're not just some idiot
@5DangerRanger0
@5DangerRanger0 5 месяцев назад
Why is it so important to use copper from the service splice down to the meter base (10 feet) when the entire neutral supported feed going across the street to the utility is aluminum ?
@jeffkalina7727
@jeffkalina7727 11 месяцев назад
This was on RU-vid before.
@MrBonger88
@MrBonger88 11 месяцев назад
“My mental problems they didn’t read about” lmao
@brandonburr4900
@brandonburr4900 11 месяцев назад
That's all nice. Bit the questions is how much would all this coat to Joe smoe that doesn't live in Jersey and have all these connections? Most electrical folks doing this work will probobly be like your generac and be like the freaking crazy? Followed by no we can't do that. Still interesting and I don't doubt it makes a difference.
@user-ex9zm7bg3x
@user-ex9zm7bg3x 9 месяцев назад
Where could it possibly cost more to do this than NJ
@Rockapotamus91
@Rockapotamus91 11 месяцев назад
this isn't new I saw this quite a while ago
@Xiaoguan8845
@Xiaoguan8845 11 месяцев назад
Super capacitor should be the way to go, use it to power up everything
@ssnoc
@ssnoc 7 месяцев назад
I thought Aluminum wiring was illegal now ? Why would it be coming from the transformer to your house ?
@David-xl9cp
@David-xl9cp 11 месяцев назад
So imagine how much better it would sound with high quality UK plug and sockets system, probably the best in the world, no plugs hanging out of the wall as in the US 👍👍👍👍 It will affect the sound, as the power coming in will create a lot of electrical noise in the line and affect the amp circuit which in turn ruins the amp output circuit and sound. Shame you have such a poor plug/socket system, I’ve just experienced 3.5 weeks in the US travelling, with plugs hanging out of the socket. 😵‍💫
@Tony-Tequalla
@Tony-Tequalla 7 месяцев назад
Oh yes. The rats nest of conduits/cabling/random socket positions in the basement was just hideous. 😩 He should have just built a garden room with single electrical supply line junction box and have the sockets laid out symmetrically, making maintenance & upgrades easier.
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 11 месяцев назад
Over, time all of this different electrical work that was done turned out to be a real CF. Why do you ride it, time for new shingles and you should treat them with Bleach Oil for a beautiful silvery look.
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 11 месяцев назад
Next question: How much does it literally cost per KW hour to run a system that draws a lot of power? I usually only listen at 80dbs average so it can't cost too much for a 4 hour session. Or so I think. But I didn't just come into town on a turnip truck either. More like a rutabegga truck.
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 10 месяцев назад
Holy shit? Aluminium wire? Do you guys in the US use that for power? RIDICULOUS!
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 11 месяцев назад
Get your hearing checked, Fremer. A lot cheaper. We are all dealing with age related hearing loss. You may be at risk of bias confirmation. Though I am sure these are all fine upgrades, my guess is they are not cheap.
@1999zrx1100
@1999zrx1100 11 месяцев назад
Not cheap but necessary if you want to avoid an electrical fire…Money well spent👏
@johnnyrabenold6133
@johnnyrabenold6133 11 месяцев назад
He's been this way for decades. It's greed and conflict of interest, not his hearing.
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 11 месяцев назад
I see no greed or conflict of interest. Please explain such allegations.@@johnnyrabenold6133
@monsieurgolem3392
@monsieurgolem3392 4 месяца назад
Those who can; make music those who cant do stuff like this.
@daveuk1324
@daveuk1324 11 месяцев назад
House looks like poor construction - maybe standard for US?
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 10 месяцев назад
Yes, that's the way they construct houses on the other side of the pond.
@kuglepen64
@kuglepen64 10 месяцев назад
Placebo is a hell of a drug.
@Fluterra
@Fluterra 6 месяцев назад
So is blissful ignorance. Don’t ever hear a world-class system as you will go home with an even bigger inferiority complex.
@monsieurgolem3392
@monsieurgolem3392 4 месяца назад
Lol, it is actually.
@paulomontero12
@paulomontero12 10 месяцев назад
What happens to all his HI-Fi gear when the lord comes a calling?
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 10 месяцев назад
Gets tossed in the bin by someone who doesn't know crap about it. Happens all the time.
@monsieurgolem3392
@monsieurgolem3392 4 месяца назад
10:05, you turn into a pillar of salt.
@davidcross890
@davidcross890 11 месяцев назад
Why not truly fix the entire setup instead of piecemeal minor fixes that yield far less than optimal results that are possible? I fixed my ENTIRE setup to far beyond current world class standards a long LONG time ago. That's why my power cords and networked power are light years beyond even the supposed state of the art today.
@petekutheis3822
@petekutheis3822 11 месяцев назад
What that was probably like a 40K job?
@philrob4468
@philrob4468 11 месяцев назад
I re wired my entire house with new main from the pole... new breaker panels 1 200 amp and 1 100 amp ... seperates for my audio room and it qas under 20k... he is doing a hell of alot less then that
@monsieurgolem3392
@monsieurgolem3392 4 месяца назад
To play a 50 cent record.
@paulpaulzadeh6172
@paulpaulzadeh6172 11 месяцев назад
Old film , it not new
@savagefrieze4675
@savagefrieze4675 11 месяцев назад
Hope this is all tax write-off since it relates to your profession.🤞🏼
@johnnyrabenold6133
@johnnyrabenold6133 11 месяцев назад
Literally the house that lies built.
@jeffreythurston1822
@jeffreythurston1822 11 месяцев назад
That’s harsh.
@WeeWeeJumbo
@WeeWeeJumbo 11 месяцев назад
_daaaaaaaamn_
@FOH3663
@FOH3663 11 месяцев назад
Lies? What the biggest example?
@johnnyrabenold6133
@johnnyrabenold6133 11 месяцев назад
@@FOH3663 there are so many. There were stones that you put on top of or around your gear for quantum tweaking. There was a company where a phone call was made and quantum effects are transmitted over the phone to your audio equipment. He endorsed this stuff. There have been all kinds of snake oil products that he has endorsed.
@monsieurgolem3392
@monsieurgolem3392 4 месяца назад
Lol
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 11 месяцев назад
If I were you I'd have my plumbing inspected for weakening over time. Most of it is probably 70 years old. That is the real danger to your set up and collection.
@pellepop100
@pellepop100 4 месяца назад
Please Mr Fremer, a gimbal is about a hundred bucks! For a guy who doesn’t hesitate to dish out exorbitant sums of money on various sound equipment and gizmos the refusal do address the arguable lousy image quality with the dizzying swaying really hard to understand - or come to term with.
@mounirehab
@mounirehab 11 месяцев назад
Please keep the subtleties on ALL your videos more longer , it disappeared before we can read it !!! Please take in construction that your subscribers are from different countries and many of them English is not their mother tongue ...
@michaelrogers8126
@michaelrogers8126 2 месяца назад
This is what happens when you have to much money to burn. He is a narcissistic, entitled person who thinks unless you have a system that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars you are not a true music lover.
@reestyfarts
@reestyfarts 11 месяцев назад
Money for modernization but no solar as the user auditions power hungry equipment backed up by an expensive fossil generator. All he had to do was average out his bills for a monthly kilowatt draw and match it to a solar array but he didn't. Technology fashion victim.
@kiwi335d
@kiwi335d 11 месяцев назад
Gernerator workers well for providing electricity during a storm related power outage. Solar panels during that situation, not so much.
@Derkiesmefpipe
@Derkiesmefpipe 4 месяца назад
Yea, let's put up a panels in a place where it's cloudy half the year just to be edgy. Solar's a joke, lapped up by followers. Not leaders.
@mortengammelgaard929
@mortengammelgaard929 11 месяцев назад
I did the same….. did`nt make difference 🫣
@monsieurgolem3392
@monsieurgolem3392 4 месяца назад
Because it was a DIY job.
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