I agree. People seem to forget that Diana once called Berry Gordy her father, lover, friend and obviously they had a romantic relationship. Why can't that also be true for Michael and Diana since he also referred to her as his mother, lover, friend
I think he was in love with her until his last breath, you don't leave the custody of your children to anyone, and michael left it to her after his mother
Fascinating. I just saw Diana Ross perform live at the Breast Cancer Research Foundation Hot Pink Gala two weeks ago and the second she started singing I said to myself “OMG I know now why Michael loved her so much”. She’s literally magic, at 79 she’s effortlessly flawless. Very interesting to hear the history. Thanks 👌🏽
Ok... he was beautiful always inside and out. He hated the way he looked because his father bullied him about it. He also had a history of skin conditions, vitiligo, which destroys the pigmentation in the skin, and lupus. He also received 2nd and 3rd degree sculp burns after an accident in 1984 while shooting a pepsi commercial. This kick-started his addiction to painkillers because he was in pain in the years following the accident. I believe he had to have some surgery done because of it, but also he had to wear a wig because some of that hair didn't grow back. He had his first nose job around 1978/79 because he broke his nose. But yes... he was gorgeous in his younger years
I disagree. He wasn't ever trying to look like her. His mom said he'd been in love with her since he was a teen And it just got stronger. They never rly parted they just went on the DZl and kept it in the closet bc that's what Diana wanted. MJ ALWAYS loved her and fought for decades to be with her. He Should have given up, but he never rly did. He admitted Most of his songs were f/ her and he threw many good women away bc Di came back acting like she'd finally be his... Yet he STILL put her in his will and left this msg on his last liv'g album to her Ultimate Nov 2004 To Diana Ross, I loved u in the early yrs I LOVE U EVEN MORE NOW! I Love u Diana!!
I agree. I believe something happened between the two and it was beautiful. In addition to the late 70s and 80s, I also think they may have been on and off at some points in the 90s to early 2000s. I don't think he was getting surgery to look like her though. I say that because OTW era was when there was the most resemblance between the two, and that was before he started getting a bunch of stuff done. At that point, he had only gotten maybe one nose job. So, I think the resemblance was naturally there. They both have those big, bright eyes, similar skin tone, and slight similarity in bone structure. It's a shame, they probably would have made some beautiful babies.
@@lelecheesy Celine knew her husband since she was 12..pricilla knew Elvis since she was 14 guess that wasn't grooming huh. It's only wrong when it's black folks right?
I believe everything you said was true because back in the day there was speculation going around that Michael Jackson lost his virginity to Diana Ross and that Michael was so in love and head over hills for Diana Ross that he wanted to start a family with Diana Ross but when Diana got married to another guy as you mentioned in your video Michael was highly upset and jealous that Diana Ross didn't marry him despite the huge age gap between them! And it was also said that Michael and Diana fell out with each other for years over their toxic relationship Michael felt it wasn't fair to him that diana married another man and not him it was crazy!!!!! 😮
... this intriguing theory about Diana Ross and Michael Jackson. It's quite remarkable how love and connections can transcend age and circumstances, right? And despite the gossip, it's clear that Michael had a deep affection for Diana. Leaving your children in your will is a testament to the love you hold for them. It's heartwarming to think about the bond they may have shared. Let's focus on the positive and celebrate the incredible legacies!❤
Mjs love of his life was Diana they were 2x engaged.he never STOP chasing for Diana up to the last breath He even put Diana on his last will to be second guardian to his children in case somethng happen to Katherine...thats a fact
I, like you appear to as well, believe something did go on between these 2. Who's mother or mother-like figure you've ever known to address their child as "sexy"? Where they dothat at? 🤔 Also, I agree that Diana was concerned with how this relationship would look in regards to her image. She met him when he was child; so there would've been a publicity nightmare for her to openly express any type of sexual relationship with him. Although I believe they didn't do anything sexual until Michael was between 18-20 years of age, the mere facts of her being 14 years older & knowing him as a child would of conjured up criticism of inappropriateness/grooming. For the record, I respectfully disagree with many who believe the song "Dirty Diana" was about Diana Ross. I do believe other songs of his was about her though like "Blue Gangsta", "Can't Let Her Get Away", "Who Is It" & several others.
This is very deep. Plus, the question is: "How did Diana Ross know about Michael's sexuality?" 🤔 But of course, the industry is a twisted place to be involved in. Thank you for sharing your deep dive with us. 😎👍🏼
@@taylorsara1237 I agree with you. The industry tried to twist it and say that Michael made up the name (Diana) for the song... but it had to be because of his first "love": Diana Ross. 😔 Continue resting well, Michael.
@@shakiya2 No he didnt. They HATE for us aboriginals to lovr US!! That's why they constantly tried to pair him with WW! U can find the real definition for DD on blog king Michael and the live of his life... Zit was definitely about Diana. She was his whole world....
No. Not true. M.j was in love with her. I don' t know from where you take that :" mommy & daddy isues and M.j wanted to be his mother" 😢. M.j had a loving mother, he wanted a wife ,not a mother.
No.......Diesha, 1:29 Michael didn't want to Diana Ross to be his mother, he has a mother who he deeply loved, Katherine. Michael fell in love with Diana Ross, he fell for her Madusa like ways as she already had a sizable count on men who fell for her prior. Michael who come of age by the late 1970s was reintroduced to Diana Ross again through the film The Wiz they played together, Michael fell in love with Diana Ross. Look up the 1982 Ebony Magazine interview of Michael Jackson, he point blanks tell the interviewer who he's in love with it when asked if he has a someone he likes, and it reveals its Diana Ross.
❤🎵" Evidently, nobody but me would remember this, but when 'Remember the Time' came out, the first edition was on a cassette single or one of the early releases, if you will. On the back of it, Michael Jackson had the inscription 'Remember the Time' dedicated to his beloved Diana Ross. And hey, in 1985, when they did 'Eaten Alive' together, he also wrote something on the back of her album, saying 'Great to be with you again, MJ. I998 " (I always wondered what the notation 1998 meant😊🧐♥️💯)
I didn't know that but after learning about how hurt he was and some things he said it dawned on me that this song might be about her. Every time I listen to it knowing that I get goosebumps. Better than a movie. The love I mean.
@@SuperBettyxoxo I totally agree with you! The connection between Diana Ross and Michael Jackson is absolutely enchanting! If you Google Diana Ross's 1991 album cover for 'The Force Behind the Power' and then check out Michael Jackson during the 'Remember the Time' music video in 1992, you won't believe your eyes! It's like they were two puzzle pieces meant to be together, with their matching outfits and styles. Trust me, once you see those pictures, you'll be captivated by their kismet artistry and love story. It's truly something special and noteworthy! 🌟🔥✨
I truly believe that they were and Diana loved him just as much. It's just that the unfortunate hand they were dealt made a public marriage/relationship impossible for them.
@@DieshaShakela He NEVER wntd to look like her. He wntd to MARRY her. And NONE of MJ's surgeries mimicked Diana. He had the money to look more like HER than she looked like herself. He was hopelessly in love with her and just to be with her...
Girrrl please....😆 you got a lot right in this video, but, MJ was not at all confused! He def had "daddy" issues but "mommy" issues he did NOT! MJ adored & respected his mother Katherine Jackson to the utmost; they had a very close bond stemming from his childhood! MJ was young of course, but he was no dummy; he always knew that he needed to wait until he at least turned 18/19 to shoot his shot at Diana Ross, despite her "motherly" role when he was a minor. AND, I truly believe she had given some kind of indications that the feelings were mutual, in order for him to pursue her as much as he did once he became old enough! Of course, she needed to continue playin it off to the public, fans, & industry, so as not to draw suspicions & allegations toward herself.....her status & career was very important to her! I believe she did get caught up in her emotions & the love that she also had for him. She showed that in her energy, affections, & her expressions toward him, on Live t.v. appearances. If anyone was confused for a moment, it surely wasn't MJ....he knew he wanted sexy Diana; he was totally mezmerized....& had truly fallen in love with the idea of them being in love with each other, and inseparable! As far as him proposing to her, not only once, but twice, alledgedly, well, his mother threw a monkey wrench in that s--- real quick! She knew her son was too inexperienced for a woman of Diana Ross's caliber, she knew how Diana Ross " had moved around" & "climbed" her way thru Motown.....she wasn't about to sit back & watch her son be unintentionally used, emotionally abused, & his young tender heart tooken for granted! She said Diana Ross was "too old" for her son! It was said that Mrs. Jackson went to the Press to expose Diana for this alledged accepting of an engagement ring! She knew MJ was not experienced enough in relationships....his nose was just wide open! Being married to an older woman on Diana's level would have def slowed down his career just as it was about to skyrocket! Do I think he hit??? Absolutely! Knowing how emotionally attached he was to her, I truly believe she wanted to be the first to put it down, in a real grown woman way! A young man doesn't stay THAT attached & THAT in love for THAT length of time, if he had not had that physical intimacy....idc what anyone says! He may have been shy, sensitive, & secretive, but I believe MJ was just as sexual as the next man! He knew she would never admit or tell their most deep secrets, and she knew he wouldn't.....although he gave us PLENTY of hints through a lot of his songs! He told us a lot, without telling us anything! 😉👌🏽 I believe Diana knew that as well! The man was in love, period! I don't believe he ever had that kind of emotions & love for any any other woman, although years later when he got with Lisa Marie Presley, he did care a lot about her & had a deep love for her!
If you look back from off the wall till victory album diana was dating gene Simmons from kiss so michael never had a shot imo. He did say on a youtube video you can see that it took him years to get over her. It comes straight from the horses mouth, he was devastated
Nah she dated him around 1979-81 around the same time Michael was starting to be seen with her constantly at award shows etc it’s no coincidence why gene Simmons hates Michael so much it’s because Diana moved on to mike during the thriller era
Gene Simmons / King Carl- Gustaf of Sweden - Diana / Queen Silvia of Sweden - Michael Jackson / Prince Carl - Philip of Sweden - All " Celebrities " / European Nobles
DR was cheating on MJ with Gene during this time and when MJ found out he got so angry at DR and rewrote the song "Behind The Mask" in the early 80s. Listen to the lyrics and the emotions MJ poured on that song.
She was seeing BOTH of them and called out MJ's name during an intimate moment with Gene!! That's why Gene and MJ were enemies for life after that!! MJ abd Gene fought over her for almost 2yrs when Di finally got sick of Gene and his make up. So she dumped Gene. And MJ happily wrote. TGIM and sent the 1st copy to Gene!!
Dirty Diana is one good thing that came out of it. I ❤❤❤ the song, although it could feel a little unconfortable at school with the teasers, at that time.😃
So she’s a weird ass groomer. Don’t call this beautiful. We gotta do better at protecting black children. Cause if it were Barry instead of diana mfs would be up in arms… this would def be a direct correlation to him becoming a predator if true as well. These women groomers need to be stopped and the black community needs to stop deeming it as cute, when it’s a women but hollering protect the children when a man is doing it
I can see that. I actually agree that she did. I had mixed feelings on it, even tho she did groom him he loved her so much even as an adult? You are very correct she did groom him.
@@adala1007hmmm weird bc shazee was NOT in the will but Di was Shazee had no love notes to her on cds _ but Di had 7!! Shazee had no ded'ct or biz entities named for her_ but Di sure did! He said Di was his whole 🌎 on Nat tv but never mentioned the other chc!! And he bought di 🏡, 🚗🚢 💎 etc. What did he do for shazee?? Same as he did for lisa _ Nada!!
I never heard of Diana Ross grooming Michael Jackson, but how they interacted and the way they talked about each other sounds kind of creepy. The idea of a grown woman inviting a young boy to live with her is as creepy as a grown man asking a young girl on a date. Didn’t anyone complain about Elvis Presley falling in love with a 14 year old Priscilla and he was 24 or Celine Dion marrying her manager whom she met when she was 12? 🤔 It sounds gross 🤢 It doesn’t matter if she was beautiful, what matters is how she acted with Michael is inappropriate. I bet people would have cancelled her today.
She welcome Michael on stage in j5 she did not groom Michael gosh even if anything did happen would of happened in adult hood nothing wrong with with that . Michael did not ask Diana Ross to marry him so you talking in this video your full of bs woman
@@jazmorrison9030 What??? Michael BEGGED Diana to Marry him for 2 decades!!! They were eng'd in 85 when she ran off with Arne!- ( bc Ms J refused to give her blessing and said Di was soiling him) Diana actually wed Arne in the same ⛪ MJ had been trying to marry her in for yrs!! MJ was si in love with Di his mom said it wasn't healthy....
Dirty Diana is definitely about Ms Ross Esp the..."she love all the boys in the band" part The original lyrics exposing her,from her groomin him to the 1977-84 part of them being engaged twice Go look at 1980 AMA of her an MJ on red carpet,U can tell shes testing the waters to see how the public would react to them on a date/being a couple. Exp when they get to regis philben on red carpet MJ goes or thinks shes goin to kiss him on the lips,but he get the cheek,u can tell MJ was so embarrassed,esp when u no that u an her are lovers an she shun u in the public Woman dont realize the damage they do to men as well... WOMAN Damage men as well,it goes both ways Ive been in depression over woman an not feel good enough... WOMAN DAMAGE MEN AS WELL ..ITS NOT ONE SIDED Diana psychologically damaged MJ did she on purpose? No way...but she didnt think of the damage it all could cause...woman never do Difference is with men ..men dont care about the psychological damage they do to women Women psychological damage usually isnt done on purpose but still has the same affect. I heard that Remember the time was about Dianna as well
No. She broke his heart. She married another man and he was jealous. He made the song sound like it was for groupies......but it was for her. She flirted with many men and got him jealous .
I've been always thrilled about their story. Doesn't matter where Mike is be it at an awards show or at concerts, he always stayed the same giving Diana double kisses on her cheek and hugged her tight in a long time never letting go abruptly like the others who would greet her onstage. He didn't care about the public. As to his hit single Dirty Diana, MJ said in his interview with Barbara Walters back in '97, it's not about her. It's not Diana Ross it's about groupies and his experiences with his brothers and these girls backstage for many years.. People immediately jumped to targeting Diana during the Bad era because of the timing, the title, and the hardcore heartfelt lyrics to the song which they mistakenly thought right away that MJ was writing about her. But it's not no not Diana Ross.. Michael could never do that to her in such a bad light through a song in an album that has bad theme all over the place. He'd write more about his heartbreak of losing someone he loved than being so mad about that person for hurting him.. He'd write more about the tabloids, the press, the injustice, the unfairness of the media in his songs more than any other artist I ever know than writing about Diana.. He loved her with all his life. She's the first love of his life. When he lost her it took him so many years just to be over her and yet he was still depressed. He may say that he was over her but to me I don't think so. He's still badly hurt and completely in love her but couldn't have her. Yet she remained his 2nd mom, a mentor, a friend, a lover. I see mom/son issues with them though but I understand. He started off in the business really young. The only female apart from his mom who he can look up to and guide him in the industry is Diana. I'm sure something else went on behind the doors. It's just they both shared genuine affection throughout the years.
@@DieshaShakela 🤗I really want to thank you, Diesha for that infovideo you made I forgot to put it in my comment. Sorry that was very long.😅 I felt I had to speak for both of them to the others coz I love Diana Ross and Michael Jackson so much. I don't want other people to put them in a bad light so easily. They're wonderful artists. I also want to add that Dirty Diana was Princess Diana's favorite MJ song. 😊
Wrong. D Ms Ross was like a 2nd mom when he was a KID. She took care of him for a few months and they were always very close. But he had a serious crush that got so bad his mom took him from Diana hoping to end his infactuation but it got stronger. He fell headlong in love with her and pursued her Relentlessly. Ms Di did NOT want ppl to know this. That's why she used the "he's like my son cover story_ I researched this for about 2 yrs n Ms Ross was sleeping with Mike from about the age of 18!! His 22 yr cameraman told it all in his book and talked about walking in on them at the peach tree 🏨. They were also caught in set of Wiz and some B)B Mike bought Diana in 80s There's a reason Mike said dozens of times that he loved Diana and wanted to MARRY her!! There's a reason why he called her His world and said he'd love her forever... Notice he DID... And DD WAS 4 her. But no way was he going to tell that to the public. He was angry when he write that. They were engaged when Ms Ross ran off with the white guy. He had a lot of reason to be enraged. DD was a get even with a slut song ( Not calling Ms R a slut) but that's just how he was feeling then.. But Mike admitted MANY of his songs were ( as he put it). To and for DIANA and DD was definitely one of them that's why she was mad and later laughed & said at her concert that her baby write DD for her and she sang it!!!
broooo you can tell just by the way he looked at her he was in love with her,,,,,i bet he wanted to mary her,,,,i bet he asked,,,and i bet she was to afraid to do it because of what people would say,,,and i bet that broke michael the rest of his life that he couldnt have the only girl he ever loved
@@DieshaShakela never seen him look at anyone like that ever,,,I just discovered this story,and now everything makes sense why he was sad his entire life
@@hadinapokalix7329 Yeah. She should of sat him down n told him from the start she would never marry him... Mike always believed she would n he wasted about 20 yrs fighting to make it happen..
Michael wanted to be a DeBarge. If we're talking about what drove his "transformation". That Diana thing, I believe, was misdirection. Period. Good post though. Diana Ross is on my top most beautiful famous women of all time. Along with Kenya Moore and others.
No. What drove his transformation were natural causes. Michael definitely had vitiligo: it was on his autopsy report and if you look up pictures between the late 70’s and 80’s, you’ll see clear images of skin discoloration all over his body. His hair was a result of the Pepsi burns. After that, he had to wear wigs. Look up pics of those burns, they were awful. Michael didn’t want to be anyone but Michael. He had outsold and out performed the DeBarge family before he even reached puberty.
@@ErinDeNis Copy that. My statement was driven by understanding who he was around growing up. Thought it was interesting he grew up around that family and ended up "looking" like one of them later in life. Maybe how the males looked had some impact on him at some point?? Either way, good convo. Definitely not married to any one theory.😉
Wasn't she the woman who were rumored to have sexually abused Michael when he was 12 yo to then kept him under his control to take his virginity at 17 yo and threw him like a piece of shit? Even if all of this isn't true or exact, I hate her so much. Michael deserved better!
@brizzy4932 I think it's explained very well that his father met with Suzanne and she introduced them to Berry Gordy. Where tf did you get this idea of Diana and Smokey having Michael as a child?
@@0ne0nlyLarry Not so, the only reason the Jackson 5 was created was so that Barry Gordy can bring Michael Jackson back to Diana Ross. The child she had abandoned for fame and fortune.
@@brizzy4932 He looks like his mother Katherine Jackson.All the Jackson sibling have similare looks. Same high cheek bones Are you telling me that Diana gave birth to Janet who he looks the most like,Jermaine,Latoya,Marlon .Rebie,Titoetc.Stop the nonense.
I knew MJ 's love stories many of them:)) ..I mean he really loved talkin about his affairs as a private person:) Its not just the Glenda tapes it really happened all time.Everyone says that Diana was His true love but its not true. MJ had a fiancee from who Dangerous album is about mostly he really loved her and stay connected till his death. Thats why he wanted to settle in Dubai (his fiancee was from Saud Arabia from a royal family but lived in Dubai later)..MJ was really wild and such a womanizer as his father was..like all of his brother was. But y cause of his traumatic childhood he had a repetitive negative relationship patterns and a really deep emotional hunger. That means He could really love someone but could not connect. That happened with his fiancee and with all his relationship. Diana may be was the same:)). Actaully MJ never put a ring on Diana's finger and Diana never wanted to marry MJ
That's a lie. There's a pic of Di kissing him in the mouth wearing the ring on King Michael blog!! And he said over n over n over Diana Ross was the LOHL. So ypu know who HE LOVE better than him??? And He cared for Liss but was NOT deep in love with her ever. When he was asked 3x in 3 diff intervs if he loved Lisa he kept saying he LIKED her n wished her well ...
