Diana Ross - love triangle with Cher! Did she GR00M Michael Jackson? What happened to the Supremes? 

"Dirty Diana" is about Diana Ross. I never put that together.

You need to check your facts! I do not believe that dirty Diana was written about Diana Ross. I really don't think he would have been that rude with everyone knowing that he had feelings for her. But I guess it gives you something to talk about.

Michael Jackson, the secret love child of Diana Ross and Smokey Robinson 😲

@@denisebrashears1552 Dirty Diana WAS about Diana Ross. All the facts fit. Diana even sang it as her opening act n told the audience. Her bad boy wrote it for Her!!

@@brizzy4932 He looks just like nearly ALL his siblings they"d ALL have to come from her!! How ridiculous! And Diana was a 13 yr old girl across the world when he was born!! LMBAO!!

That's cause that's called my lesting a child there's no getting around it she ought to be ashamed of herself

How can you love a woman that molests a child cause that's what she did spare me your banality that's no love as a child molester

Yeah, well, blame his BLACK dad cause Joseph Jackson FORCED his children into the industry without asking them how they felt about it.

Yup he really had no one don't forget Stephanie Mills

brooke shields?

@@ChocolateRuko no. She used him.

Eddie Murphy??

I think Anjelica Huston should be added to this

He did make a song called dirty Danna

Reportedly, Michael was also groomed by a couple of members in the Shiites, and through the hands of his own father being passed around through “illuminati type“ members when he was very young, I wonder if Diana Ross knew anything about that, and anyway offered to protect him from thesepedophiles. Perhaps Michael felt that he was safest. He was with Diana Ross.

I believe Michael was enamored with Diana. There is not ENOUGH empathy for Michael when it comes to what he and many child stars are exposed to. Diana is a pioneering legend yet she can be a cold opportunist. Michael was too sensitive for her. I hope he is at peace now. 😔🙏🏾🕊️❤️

So sad😭

actually he didn't got over her until his last breath

He NEVER got over her. Just tried to make ppl think he did.. He left a dedication on last album to her, saying he loved her more than ever...

@@teacherspet8835 exactly 💯

yes I totally agree with you

Diana Ross is a "legendary" narcissist? Ambitious, yes. Narcissist, I think, is not even in the ballpark. Where do people get their information from? It is far more likely that she does not "bond" with others. She doesn't demonstrate the traits of a narcissist, which is something people with no psychological knowledge throw around whenever they want to say something damning about someone. People are jumping to absurd conclusions, based on hearsay (the old "Well, I heard that..." or some other nonsense). We used to respect facts. Now we just voice an opinion and don't care if it is factual or not. Such as "the election was stolen." and now "Diana Ross groomed Michael Jackson." Nuts. Michael Jackson's father would never let anyone else have any control over his kids. And if you're old enough, you know this from back in the '70s, when the Jacksons left Motown. P.S. I am no fan of Diana Ross. I liked her when she was with the Supremes, but as soon as it turned into DR & The Supremes, I was gone. That said, if people are going to bash someone, get your facts straight and leave the innuendo/rumors out of it.

I totally agree 💯

Also may I add before his death, he owned 50% of Sony’s Catalog. One thing about powerful people, they don’t like to share

The abused often times become a perpetrator. I honestly don't blame MJ. He was such a beautiful person and soul- but i won't make excuses for a grown man either. Regardless, he was toyed with and used by Ms. Ross, definitely, and so many other adults. MJ grew up to be so handsome, with no judgment here, but she should've controlled herself. But I feel he had no normal outlet and did things darkly as well. He should've been protected like all children and child entertainers. But he tried his best. That's why we can't fight battles alone. We need Jesus. May he rest in peace 🙏

@JaeElise lol true 👍

Wow! So you’re one of those people? Who believe what they want to believe. Do some research real research, and you will be very enlightened. There was no Cinderella story here. And why would you want them to be a couple? She was like a mother to him he was nine when she met him. Do you really think it’s OK that later on she would be with him sexually? Everyone could see why he would love being in love with her, but that’s strange as in his book is autobiography. He says she was like a mother sister lover to him. That’s not healthy. And lastly, please understand pedophiles are in many vocations leading very functional lives. It is very likely he he did do things with YoungBoy, but he never hurt them. How many times did he say that I could never hurt a child and he probably didn’t but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have sexual things with them. You don’t sleep in a twin bed as a man with a young boy, and not have sex come on. His father used to take him out of bed somewhere at all hours of the night when they were on tour and when he got back, he would cry for days. This is according to his brother Germaine in his book. I’m sorry to tell you all this, but it’s not healthy for you to believe in fantasies.

She didn't groom him. He got older and she fell into his administration for her by the time he was in his early 20s. She began to feel attracted to him by the time Off The Wall was coming out

@@AlkalineInsides it's grooming. They met when he was 9. A child. And after living with her he became "obsessed" with her and later started referring to her as he gf/mom. It's inappropriate and disgusting administration or not.

@@sharitad.3688 he was obsessed with her before he even lived with her. MJ and his brothers lived with her because Berry Gordy asked her if she'd take them in. She said yes. MJ adored her the most- he had a crush on her and she treated him like a sister/mother. He got older (21) and she started to see him differently. It's easy to vilify her due to her other unsavory behaviors in her younger years, but "grooming" is such a stretch of a definition. It's kind of like people calling MJ a pedophile because he had such a beautiful genuine love for children. I guess he was grooming those kids too?

@@AlkalineInsides it's grooming look it up it's called grooming an underage child who can't defend themselves from serious situations like that

@@AlkalineInsides I agree with your entire comment.. However It's just that for me,a grown woman, and if a young man been around me since a kid.. I just wouldn't desire him even though he's grown into a man.. He's like family to me..

LITERALLY... A whole 14 year age gap😭

She was a child predator Let's just call it for what it is.

Mike got robbed and used. THE INDUSTRY EVENTUALLY GETS THEM ALL. DIRTY DIANA, CLIVE, RECORD COMPANIES, BRITISH, AMERICAN GOVT. ..ITS ALL ABOUT DEBT AND DEBTORS.

That is truly sick! She was extremely talented though.. wish she also had the heart to go along with the talent.

What's sick a/b it? He was grown! Priscilla was only 14 when Elvis started 'doing her' That's my definition of sick!

I totally agree with this statement. You nailed it and left nothing out.

Well said. I totally agree with you! And I hate people who say they wished they were a couple.

Yep

I always loved MJ & feel he was demonized because he started to rail against the agenda & the spell acts were kept under

I agree. 💯

And he became an exploiter himself.

Well on MJ'S private tape recordings 2000, MJ actually says "it took me a long time to get over her, a hell of a long time." He also says something like "the relationship between her & him was mainly all in his mind"

​@@kathleenroulston5437 not 2000s, it was the 90s.

@@granny58 You are parroting people who are exploiting him even in death.

Yeah I personally don’t like the way she sings, I never have

Fr

During the supremes, it was the glamour and elegance but I agree it’s just that. To appeal and crossover because of greedy berry. A few hits after but definitely not a singer

Awful singer.

True, I liked some of her songs, but I never really liked her voice.

I genuinely was sad watching all the documentaries and seeing his mom talk about it. The media made his mom sound like a hater and bitter but she was just keeping real 😭

@@KarineAlourde Hey I remember seeing the michael jackson breakdown on your channel, are you going to make another one? thank you, i love your videos!

@@faizahassan8167 yes very very soon. A more in depth one 💖

Don't believe everything you hear

@@falanajerido875 anything you hear in hollyweird is TRUE...

Then yo keep reeling Mike back in wvrytine he moved on just bc she didn't want to see him with anyone else

Was?

My thoughts exactly hearing about when he tried to move on she’d pop back up acting jealous smh

​@@truthbetold6011 😂

Definitely a narcissist

That show was in 1969 Mj was 11 he was born in 1958

Yeah,I saw that skit.Although Michael is his acting was toppie ,it was weird.Diana always knew that he was madly in love with her ,but she on the other hand wasn't.I think she found him very attractive and sexy when he got older.She began flirting(Diana always was very flirty with men)with him and giving all the wrong signs.Nah miss Ross!👎

@@nicholasgreen339we don’t need to be technical with his age. The whole point. He was still young.

He was becoming powerful and she saw it (Off The Wall/ Wiz era) It becomes a turn on after a while. Especially once he was of proper legal age. He was also obsessed with her...and perhaps she felt she could finally give him what he wanted. Then it got complicated, because she didn't care too much for how shy he was off stage.

@@AlkalineInsides you’re right. Power turns her on. MJ got powerful.

You would be surprised how common this is

They become famous because they have what it takes to use and walk all over people without remorse. Narcissists.

Who knows, she could've had him before that. You never know until you know..

Thank you for mentioning these songs, I never knew any of this, my mouth was open for the entire video. I wish a Man loved me so much he wrote songs about me but I wouldn't break his heart.

OMG! Those songs? My jaw is on the floor

Wayyyy more than that. Im so blue Dangerous Dont walk away I cant let her get away Super fly Sis Even Blue gangster- where he blows her cover n says: Said you'd be my wife! - Nothin but big LIES!! Now I can never fall in love _ ( meaning w/ s'one else ) He was hopelessly in love w/ her. That's why his mom said he was TOO in love with her n it was unhealthy...

@@taylorsara1237 Thank you for this! I had no idea!!!

According to Teddy Riley, Remember the time was written by him. Teddy Riley was writing about a girlfriend of his

This happens in all communities btw not jus our community but regardless it needs to be addressed.

@@Alchewand It happens MORE in your community. That's the point. 🙄

Thank you! Even now, these female entertainers are perverts and no different from the men. Thats why Lizzy could comfortably be around children at a ball game with her whole prune shaped ass out.

@@skip031890 it actually doesn’t and I can tell you’re speaking from a non statistical perspective so stop being dense.

@@Alchewand keep telling yourself that.

She already did one

@@daryltracy7949 Well, she stated in THIS video that one is coming.

Michael also had a huge poster of Diana in his bathroom. And in one interview with Oprah (after the divorce) Lisa Marie Presley said she has no advantage to Diana when it comes to Michael's attention. And also Tatum O'Neil in an interview, their relationship didn't last because Michael Jackson was in love with Diana Ross.

@@teacherspet8835 Please give me the link of where Lisa said that

@@SpiceyKy MJ married Elvis Pressley's daughter Maria. So what was that all about. Yeah, Dianna was a project cock blocking where, very manipulative, like your typical trap ho.

@@happydrunkmeansober Diana had the look and the voice that was "White" enough. thats why...

I love me some Flo. But she just didn't have this great "voice" people claim. And it didn't have the appeal to rise the supremes to the top

@@happydrunkmeansober Faaaacts... people were always so mean about Diana just because Berry appointed her to lead the group. She went with it and took it serious and did a fantastic job. She was a hard worker. And knew she had a different art to offer. It's those eyes for me and that swag

@@happydrunkmeansober and it's so annoying. Not many know; toward the end of The Supremes...Diana personally asked Mary "what do you want to do after this?"...and Mary's response was "I don't know...maybe to get Married" lol. I mean.. Diana had a complete vision for HERSELF. NOTHING wrong with that. She was YOUNG during a PIONEERING era.. from the "HOOD"... it IS a rags to riches and ambitious story.

And she reaped her seeds when her husband Arne “allegedly” dumped her for his younger, pregnant girlfriend. That man sent her into spells of depression and alcoholism till the day he died, and it doesn’t seem like she’s had a significant relationship since.

The way I feel about celebrities I separate their art form from what they are at any other time-

@@pheephee1712 It depends on what they do in their personal lives.

@@CodyCole80 Meanwhile Michael wanted to give her the world!

@@CodyCole80 on national tv 😲. I need to find that video 😏

I love all three ladies so much! Have ten vinyls. But wrong is wrong. I liked it that Diana talked about this in interviews and her last studio album.

All of the original Supremes are dead and gone except Ross. We would have loved the reunion, but it never happen. Ross made peace with Mary Wilson before she died.

FLO and Mary didn’t have the voice. NEXT.

Yeah that was the case. They started feeling some resentment towards her. I don’t think Florence liked Diana.

Big time!

Yeah he said in a recorded phone call that she started to make a game out of things

@@faizahassan8167 yes!!!! I hope Karine can do a review of the Glenda Tapes, it will reveal so much!

@@Hi.Shadow omg right!! they reveal so much about what was going on in his mind

She was a predator a groomer just disgusting

Glad you mentioned how she had the perfect balance of tomboy and woman . One article I read described her song “ if “ as the perfect balance of masculine and feminine

You mean how she went from tomboy to being slutty...

Janet tells her own story on hulu

​@@natalie8105 6 y

possibly because Janet may have been born a boy

Not cancelled cause the music is good, but people are aware of what he did with children.

🗣🔥👏🏽💪🏾🙏🏽🪩

@@shanejive6292 false allegations he was acquitted of 😢

@@shanejive6292 evidence????

@@Monstergaming-qm2tm open your eyes

I don’t even remember 😂. I remember Celine Dion coming and it being a big deal amongst the men. Didn’t know she came to Jamaica

Not the first...Detroit been not fooling with Diana...I was surprised, but learned why...

Im sure that was NOT the reason. And she's quite beautiful... Ppl just looking for a reason to hate on s'one..

@@taylorsara1237 they didn't like her because she is an evil bitch. Simple.

@@taylorsara1237 thank you

I’ve always got real self-absorbed vibes from her I can’t explain it

Probably someone high on the narcissistic spectrum without actually having NPD.

One of the original divas

Diana was a class act and very intelligent woman, we all make mistakes.

MJ=King of pop.

They are overstating Diana's beauty, too pop eyed and skinny. It was makeup and costumes that gave her a semblance of beauty.

@@aarondigby5054just say you hate Black women and move on

Much of what you said is very true. I think he wanted to be resilient, and he tried to get past his problems. But very obviously he wasn't resilient enough. She could have said F it all, I am going to marry him . I love him, I don't care what people think! Maybe if they had, he would still be alive. At the same time everyone looked at her as a predator, and maybe she was. I think hooking up so fast with so many other men, would have been extremely hurtful.

@@aarondigby5054 That can be said of about every so-called beauty. Nope, sorry--that black woman was gorgeous! And not everyone likes thick big booty women my man! In many cultures, large eyes are a very coveted trait, and some just don't know what to do with large eyes--just as many believe Bette Davis to be beautiful as believe her to be plain.

Michael had wisened up to what Diana was like. And he’d have Elizabeth Taylor raise his kids before Diana. All his children had Godfathers and Godmothers and none of them was Diana. He was responsible about his children. He wouldn’t give them to someone even he couldn’t trust. It’s just more evidence the will is fake.

If you recall she didn't attend his funeral.

@@louisepalm4792 that was always weird to me she didn’t attend his funeral

@@louisepalm4792 She didn’t?? That’s terrible. Ironically his daughter is friends with Diana’s young son.

@@EuqinimodArt she went to the private one.

It was a lame excuse. She left Gene for MJ when Thriller started blowing up.

I do as well. Born a year apart from Michael so he had been my favourite person even beyond his tragic passing. Miss him but listen and watch him daily.

They act on tv

Diana has admit she's been testy and rude and that she's worked on getting better. She's human. On other accounts...many have also had great experiences with Diana Ross. Unfortunately your grandmother didn't. Sorry to hear.

@@AlkalineInsides thank you for saying. It does help to know she acknowledged her past flaws and improved her personality.

@@AlkalineInsides I met Diana a few years ago and she was sweet and omg an undeniable presence that I’ve never experienced before. I bet she’s grown a lot since the 80 & 90’s

That honestly is not that surprising look at her eyes

Me too...I remember...

Yes they were. He planned a big wedding in 🇨🇭 Switzerland. That was his dream But his mom told Di off and ran her away. MJ was always in love with her n never gave up... Sadly

At least from this now we know MJ was not gay and actually had sex with Diana.That should shut off the rumours that have been peddled during his life that he was gay and a weirdo who had a thing for small boys

She didn't stay away from him.

@@SimplyBeingTT Right. She didn't. She just let ppl THINK she did...

Me too

Me three 😊

😍 the King!

SAME! Michael always and forever!!

Me too

You shouldn’t have idols…..

For me, her work is with the Supremes stands out compared to every one else!

Im sorry for ur loss. My dad is gone too. But its comforting to know he's not suffering anymore. Just know that one day we WiLL see them again...

A 9 -10 year old MJ lived with Di..a boys first female impression is his mom of course...then she came along

Actually, Michael and his brothers never lived with Diana. Michael sort of mentions as such in a set of tapes, and Jermaine Jackson, his brother, said the same in his book. This as well as the idea of her discovering them were things just for show.

Most boys👦first impressions ARE on older females because of their mom's😉😁

She couldn't accept the truth and didn't want to see him that way in that casket

@@AlkalineInsides his casket was closed.

"that thing" 😭

😂😂😂😂😂​@@MomoKanjaki

That wasn't his funeral, what was held at the Staples Centre, that was a service memorial for his fans. The proceeds were donated to charity.

She kissed him during that performace too, Diana was wild lmao

She gave her back to Stephanie too lol

She was jealous of Princess Stephanie. Just like she sat on his lap when was out with Madonna. And when she inserted herself between Michael & Elizabeth on stage. Or jumped Michael’s bones (seduced him/slept with him) when he was dating Stephanie Mills & Tatum O’Neill. She wanted to show off to these women & mark him as her territory

@@jihangamal5823 she did😂

He was NOT dating Steph at all. She was there with her hubby!! And MJ pulled Diana into his lap and held her tight like he"d never let go.. Remember how mesmerized he was? Diana was the LOHL, Steph knew she had no chance...

exactly! 😆👍

EXACTLY. This is the case for most of these celebrity scandals. The public love to call out celebs for things we’re ALL guilty for

Even though regular people behave that way to get to the top doesn’t mean they should. It’s still not okay.

@@hellobye7697 I totally agree💯 We all fall short of the glory at the end of the day .

I agree every female group has a diva the supremes had Diana and destiny child Had “queen bee “ Beyoncé.

Quincy talks about how during the recording of She's Out of My Life Michael would sob at the end of the song every time...

He was good at mimicking the stars back then, like Jackie Wilson and all the people that were back then. You have to remember a lot of those people. Were like huge To A boy who lived at home didn't have anything. He wanted to be a singer. So he copied them. Their look their way. He said he used to watch their feet.He would talk about this over the years.

Because he's simply talented...

@@cheesyDELISH48 fake crying, it's just a part of the act for that song. Maybe he did cry for real once or twice tho

@@TyeArtisik it wasnt fake crying lol.. Quincy said he did it everytime while recording until he eventually had to keep it in there..

I'm sure there are some things about you that need to be called out. But I hear you.

@@AlkalineInsides I'm sure the same goes for you too.

@@tiffani5353 absolutely. So no need to cast stones as if you're such a perfect person.

@@AlkalineInsides I never casted a stone, I just simply stated the truth. As I did in my original comment. You tried it by bringing me in it. So you got the same energy that you came at me with.

@@AlkalineInsides No need to get defensive

That book was discredited by everyone who knew her!! Randy Tamborelli has been declared one of the biggest/ most vicious/ lying/ unmitigated Gossips in hollywood!! No one in their right mind would believe what he says! He ✍ whatever U PAY HIM TO SAY!- Are u kidding? He's the Enquirer of the Literary Sect. I can't believe u quoted that gossip rag as if it had ANY credibility!! BTW, he was sued for that book- and LOST!!

That book was lies and garbage just like all of Randy's books..

Apparently that is what it takes to get to the top. You don't get to the top by being nice. Remember she came from nothing...Her family was kind of poor. She couldnt write songs or music like Madonna and Taylor Swift can

@@erossinema8797 She COULD have written and DID write a few songs. And Ev'thg Tamborello said in that 📖 is false. ALL of his 📚 are full of lies. Even The Jackson's said that...

@@taylorsara253 , If it was lies, Randy must be one talented writer obsessed with black entertainers. I couldn't put "Call Her Miss Ross" down until I finished reading it.

Facts 💯 God bless & rest my mom's soul, she passed 23 yrs ago from breast cancer she would be 68 now but when I was growing up she use to say the same thing lol

Explain how he was “emulating” Diana?

He wasn't emulating her. He was deeply IN LOVE with her. Ppl in love naturally start to look and act alike. That's a well known fact...

Soon as I read "emulating" it became so clear 🤯

@@MissCellanious1 no it’s actually false

I see her mirrored in JLo, even Madonna to an extent. Being relevant & still getting attention is the most important to them. Which is why they’ll never stop working, they need the limelight like oxygen. Miss Ross is performing again.

She's a pretty great mom ... she loves them and adore her!

No one forgot stupid. This video is not talking about the actual group.

She is an egoist

It's not something else its narcissism

Weird _ how if she was a man, that trait would be called focus and Ambition!! Only on a woman does it seem to become a negative...

@@taylorsara253 That is so true. I don’t find it an attractive trait in anyone, regardless of gender.

Y’all hate Black women who want to succeed in life.

Leave Me Alone was definitely about her: “Time after time I gave you all of my money/ No excuses to make/ AIN’T NO MOUNTAIN THAT I CAN’T CLIMB, baby/ All is going my way…

This was well known in the early eighties, and some people even applauded it. However, when Diana started receiving negative press about it, her people and Michael’s camp did a great job of making the story go away.

Okay?

When one of the members died, you’d think Diana would’ve helped with the funeral. O girl didn’t even have a tomb stone that’s how poor she was living in the projects. Shame on Diana. SMH

@@sexythicknj That's a damn lie! She not only paid for Flo's whole funeral, but she gave her daughters money and paid off Mary's house!! WTF! Yall just make shyt up about ppl! Its ridiculous...

@@sexythicknj you don't even know what you're talking about. She set up an entire trust frund for flos kids. She let Mary borrow money not once but twice. And even helped out Cindy. Flo had her own demons she was dealing with. They weren't angels either. Idk why people think Diana supposed to be responsible for everyone else life. In the late 70's she barely even had any money. You literally had to go to Motown to ask for it. She was set up on a bad deal. But because she was a Motown darling..of course she was granted a little more access. You need to do your research

@@AlkalineInsides who is Flo?

@@veronicapodolig6806 Florence Ballard, a founding member of The Supremes.

My sentiments exactly 💯

Not to mention that Stephanie had a thing for MJ. Oooh chile!

THANK YOU, SHE'S PURE-T TRASH, she was a disgusting mean girl, who would do any & everything to tear down & compromise other female artists like Gladys Knight, Mary Reeves, Mary Wilson & Florence Ballard. She's a shark & that's why the fates made it so that the very thing happened to her that she didn't want to & that was, growing old alone & that's precisely what happened to her!!!!!!!

And you telling the truth

Hit the nail on the head!

Underrated comment, I agree with you 100%.

Interesting

Men love mean women

@@ntuan9360 Evidently

Can you tell us which interview this was please?

@@ntuan9360 Men love beautiful women, not ugly fat ones. Men are about looks

Factssssss 😒

She’s nasty asf sleeping with Michael Jackson knowing him since he was 9 years old

💯

Projecting

She's not a legend... Sleeping with Berry Gordy helped her fraudulent career

Michael ended up dating Stephanie Mills anyway and Stephanie Mills said Michael definitely wasn't gay because there were rumors swirling at the time

@@pamelapadath6308 Michael Jackson liked little boys-

@@pamelapadath6308 Stephanie is a REAL one. She consistently DEFENDS MJ.

I’m have to say No! That Diana Ross inspired Janet Jackson!! When it comes to Michael & Janet Jackson’s, I can tell who inspired Janet!! Janet had respect for Diana Ross.. but, that wasn’t the person she looked up to. Dorothy Dandridge, Eartha kit, Cab Calloway, Mae West… OMG!! I can go on & on…

I always thought it was weird how it was shown that he and Diana were close friends. But in the 90s-you never saw her stand by him, neither did Sheryl Crow, or Madonna. I think that everyone was too cautious over the child allegations. But I never knew they were romatically involved. That's the craziest part to me, but MJ and Diana's dance skills on the Wiz are something that can never really be emulated.

@@rvegas81 *False Allegations