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Tom Haberstroh released an article about Michael Jordan’s 1987/88 DPOY award had fabricated statistics in home games. in one game, Michael Jordan put up 12 steals in one game, but was credited for 28. Nick Wright discusses the breakthrough story and how it impacts Jordan’s legacy.
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@WhatsWrightShow
@WhatsWrightShow Месяц назад
How does this impact Michael Jordan's legacy?
@MGPCycling
@MGPCycling Месяц назад
Basketball reference shows no such thing
@chrisjoseph3883
@chrisjoseph3883 Месяц назад
Doesn’t really do anything to his legacy at all here’s why: -he’s not the only one to have numbers goosed… see Stockton, mark Eaton, Dikembe, JJJ from last year and probably even the king himself lebron…. -his main legacy still stands as 6-0 finals 6fmvps 5fmvos 10 scoring titles… etc…
@alejandrohernandez9178
@alejandrohernandez9178 Месяц назад
None at all GOAT 🐐🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@jctslice
@jctslice Месяц назад
If he got fake stats basically, it affects it a lot because now, we have to really look back at his entire career and see how legitimate what he did was. With the narratives and stories being told to us about Michael Jordan, we would have to go back and see if those are actually true
@Keepit_100
@Keepit_100 Месяц назад
@@jctslice💯
@mattsell2361
@mattsell2361 Месяц назад
Having more steals then the other team had turnovers is pretty wild 😂
@Cooljoshua567
@Cooljoshua567 Месяц назад
Because it didn't happen lol. There's no such game of Jordan finishing with 4 steals and the Hawks finishing with 3 turnovers.
@MichaelStevens-ez9ib
@MichaelStevens-ez9ib Месяц назад
​@@Cooljoshua567yes it did go watch the game lol
@Kr4v3rd
@Kr4v3rd Месяц назад
​@@MichaelStevens-ez9ib which game? It's not coming up on basketball reference on the 6 games they reviewed
@Cooljoshua567
@Cooljoshua567 Месяц назад
@@MichaelStevens-ez9ib What game then?
@dieselx506
@dieselx506 Месяц назад
LOL
@Good2bking
@Good2bking Месяц назад
I know it may seem like Nick is hating but this is pretty crazy I ain’t gone lie .
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
Nothing "crazy" about it. This is more propaganda and nonsense from this hack and his sponsor 😂.
@ThanosMahomes
@ThanosMahomes Месяц назад
@@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz These are non arguable facts. You clearly have no idea what the word propaganda means.
@LRC.
@LRC. Месяц назад
@@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bzfacts= facts. Not propaganda 😂😂😂 you Jordan glazers are just coping and can’t handle the truth
@michaelmaccrazy
@michaelmaccrazy Месяц назад
@@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz The original reporter has actual footage of the games and the box score. What's crazy is your bitterness.
@rektz2457
@rektz2457 Месяц назад
Just goes to show how overrated Michael Jordan is. LeBron James is clearly the greatest player ever, and whoever disagrees, is just a hater
@YangoBord
@YangoBord Месяц назад
I don’t understand the comments… is it really hating to mention this? I feel like this is pretty significant. I understand that nick prefers bron over jordan in the goat debate but how do u more than double someone’s stats?
@MrBimirud
@MrBimirud Месяц назад
Agreed. It says a lot when people who make an argument are attacked personally with no rebuttal evidence given. I grew up idolizing Jordan, but his greatness speaks for itself IMO - no need to attack people, tear down LeBron or do unsavoury things to protect Jordan's legacy.
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
​@@MrBimirudDude....the entire "re-assessment of Jordan's DPOY" is meant to attack him because LeBron never won DPOY. Give me a break.
@jamesball8519
@jamesball8519 Месяц назад
​@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz man yall ignorant. It doesn't matter why it's brought up. This is a ridiculous offense and should be addressed.
@suntansuperman26
@suntansuperman26 Месяц назад
But it brings up questions like when did they start inflating Jordan’s stats and is that the reason he won DPOY? Because in ‘87 Jordan averaged more steals and blocks and had more total steals and blocks than the actual DPOY winner. That season he became the first player to record 100+ blocks and 200+ steals in a season yet he didn’t win the award. Was it inflated then? But now they’re saying Jordan’s DPOY award was due to inflation when he again recorded 100+ blocks and 200+ steals for the season now becoming the only one to do it twice. He didn’t win with the stats he had in ‘87, repeated similar output in ‘88 wins the DPOY, however, now we’re questioning the legitimacy of his DPOY award
@rjphillips4777
@rjphillips4777 Месяц назад
@@suntansuperman26 It's almost like both seasons can be inflated
@Braktooth
@Braktooth Месяц назад
The coping over this is going to be world class.
@crystalizedExposed
@crystalizedExposed Месяц назад
especially when if this was lebron they would NEVER let this go
@porterwake3898
@porterwake3898 Месяц назад
@@crystalizedExposed We don't need to. LeBron flop compilations are enough to solidify him as NOT the GOAT.
@bronmill33
@bronmill33 Месяц назад
@@porterwake3898yeah, bc flopping is way worse than bulls stat keepers artificially inflating jordan’s stats and jordan rewarding them for it
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
You Bron stans are coping indeed
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
​@@crystalizedExposedstop crying Bron stan
@johanjespersen2842
@johanjespersen2842 Месяц назад
Having more steals than the other team has turnovers is proof that Jordan is the GOAT
@lp3860
@lp3860 Месяц назад
Unfortunately that never happened, but that's the state of journalism. Nick claimed Hawks had 3 turnovers when their season low vs the Bulls was 10.
@youngerudit2524
@youngerudit2524 Месяц назад
🤣🤣🤣
@youngerudit2524
@youngerudit2524 Месяц назад
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
@youngerudit2524
@youngerudit2524 Месяц назад
Bro I will give you time to delete this comment. I don’t think you realize the absurdity you just wrote. Did you know a steak = a turn over on the other team?? So it’s LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for me to have more steaks than the other team has turn overs.lmao.
@stirlynharris404
@stirlynharris404 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂
@casuallybad7019
@casuallybad7019 Месяц назад
Jordan fans proving they dont care about basketball and immediately make this a time to criticize lebron instead of admitting to the inflation
@skylerjirtle8841
@skylerjirtle8841 Месяц назад
Exactly these are actual facts and hard evidence and they are putting that stuff to the side cuz he has the same agent as Lebron.
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
Nah it's because we see through the B.S. If youre going to examine Jordan's DPOY, you examine all 82 games and evaluate steals, blocks, blow bys, charges taken, stops, etc. and measure them against his peers. You don't do an alleged 6 game sample. The hilarious thing is that LeBron fanboys want to open this pandora's box, when we can go back to how fake his career accolades have been since the ROY award that should've went to Melo 😂😂. Or we can talk about the 2009 and 2010 MVPs that should've went to Bryant. 🤷🏿‍♂️ Matter of fact....let's go through the year that LeBron "led the league in assists", and see how many of them were hockey assists.
@JayBiggz
@JayBiggz Месяц назад
@@skylerjirtle8841what facts? The video didn’t event go in depth
@rjphillips4777
@rjphillips4777 Месяц назад
@@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Said by someone who probably didn't read the article.
@skylerjirtle8841
@skylerjirtle8841 Месяц назад
@@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz at the end of the day we CAN do all that. But why would we do that when ur blatantly against the facts of what happened in that sample stretch?
@artxnoize
@artxnoize Месяц назад
So Wilt really didn't score 100. He had 97 😂😂😂😂
@MichaelStevens-ez9ib
@MichaelStevens-ez9ib Месяц назад
We ain't talking about Wilt we talking about Jordan
@MistahUnknown
@MistahUnknown Месяц назад
Stay on topic, kids
@Von.NorthEnd
@Von.NorthEnd Месяц назад
Game never happened
@boss_libra
@boss_libra Месяц назад
Scoring is always properly tracked, steals and blocks weren't. So only Jordumb is a fraud.
@alectateformayor5129
@alectateformayor5129 Месяц назад
Probly
@LilRick96
@LilRick96 Месяц назад
So let me get this straight. Jordan who in the 86-87 season, averaged 2.9 steals and 1.5 blocks and DIDN'T make the all defensive team with totals 236 steals and 125 blocks for a guard. Michael Cooper averaged 1.0 steals and 0.5 blocks with 78 steals and 43 blocks TOTAL and won DPOY 😂😂😂Then the very next season averaged, Jordan averaged 3.2 steals and 1.6 blocks, with 259 steals and 131 total blocks?? And now we trying to say his DPOY was illegitimate???? GTFOH 😂😂😂 i can't with this dude bruh, i really can't
@choirboi7759
@choirboi7759 Месяц назад
Dude someone watch the games and proved they were falsified what are you talking about
@tmoney360
@tmoney360 Месяц назад
@@choirboi7759 no he watched 6 games and concluded that his observation was proof and used that to say all the home games must be false. He also decided not to watch away games and confirm those numbers were accurate and Jordan's numbers weren't lowballed. The article mentions that this was normal for home team stat keepers league wide up until a few years ago so why wouldn't that same bias work against away opponents? Maybe it's both true that home teams inflated stats and away teams had their stats lowered on the road. If you're going to try and invalidate one players entire season you should provide a unbiased look at all 82 games with each example of that stat and confirming your criteria for or against that stat happening.
@kalanievans2341
@kalanievans2341 Месяц назад
Nick wrong is a clown lol
@rektz2457
@rektz2457 Месяц назад
Jordan is a fraud. He's no goat.
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
​@@choirboi7759no they didnt you trolll
@oblivionpro69
@oblivionpro69 Месяц назад
If you want to know what cope truly is…just read the comments from Jordan Stan’s in this comments section 😂
@antibrotha
@antibrotha Месяц назад
lol your goat lost 6 nba finals 😂
@TyroneNBAFan
@TyroneNBAFan Месяц назад
@@antibrotha Jordan has the same winning percentage in the playoffs vs. the best teams of his era (2-5, 40%). He's 0-2 vs. the 80's Celtics, 1-3 vs. the Pistons and 1-0 vs. the Lakers (an injured, shadow of the Showtime Lakers btw). These are champions and former champions or dynasty level teams like LeBron has faced in the Finals year in and year out. It's just a less quiet version of LeBron's 4-6 (also 40% winning percentage). Also, LeBron almost certainly wins vs. the Warriors in 2015 if it wasn't for injuries to Love and Kyrie. When you really look at, LeBron's 4-6 is every bit as impressive as Jordan's 6-0.
@antibrotha
@antibrotha Месяц назад
@@TyroneNBAFan losing 6 nba finals are just as impressive as winning 6 nba finals? 😂😂😂🤦🏿‍♂️
@wolfgangdali1036
@wolfgangdali1036 Месяц назад
​@antibrotha your comment only shows how accurate the original comment is 😅
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
I see the cope and desperation from you Bron stans
@smurf1442
@smurf1442 Месяц назад
January 29 1988 is the ONLY game when Jordan had 10 steals in the 87-88 season and it was against the NEW JERSEY NETS and they had 22 turnovers. All of the game logs are on basketball reference. The most blockes he had in a game that year was 5
@MrEaley-td2ww
@MrEaley-td2ww Месяц назад
Pretty sure if lebron would have won dpoty instead of Marc Gasol in 2013 this guy wouldn't of went back 36 years and tried to discredit jordan winning the award, but hey what do i know?
@cheetosleopard9861
@cheetosleopard9861 Месяц назад
The guy writing the article actually isn’t a big Lebron guy
@MrEaley-td2ww
@MrEaley-td2ww Месяц назад
@@cheetosleopard9861 it may be true? They also went back and questioned John Stockton's assist
@jakeharrison207
@jakeharrison207 Месяц назад
@@MrEaley-td2wwthat’s just common knowledge lol Stockton had the easiest assists everyone knows that
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
​@@cheetosleopard9861and yet he is. Nice try
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
​@@jakeharrison207trolll
@MrKing8050
@MrKing8050 Месяц назад
Odd that Nick has not covered all those balco allegations that are out there about Lebron
@lawrence.peoples
@lawrence.peoples Месяц назад
“All those” is false. 😂 and it’s already been said, time and again, that there was NO evidence that would suggest LeBron was in anything dealing with steroids. His manager, heavy-set guy, Randy, was in Miami, looking to be in shape. 😂 Bron was 6’7, 6’8, 240, coming out of HS. YET, you all try and push a Chael Sonnen narrative about a basketball player. And if you think Bron took roids, wtf was Mike on when he gained 20 pounds of muscle in one offseason program?
@MrKing8050
@MrKing8050 Месяц назад
@@lawrence.peoples dude Bron looked like a skeleton in 2014, took two weeks off and came back looking jacked again, stop it
@lawrence.peoples
@lawrence.peoples Месяц назад
@@MrKing8050 LeBron has NEVER looked like a skeleton. Lmao. They even talked about the diets he would do, and the carb-loading, etc…2014 Bron and 2015 and beyond Bron have been the same size. 🤣😂🤣
@seancrowley3142
@seancrowley3142 Месяц назад
How much did Scottie Pippen and Klutch sports pay you to make this video?😂
@samuelblackwell3762
@samuelblackwell3762 Месяц назад
Klutch Sports cleared your check yet?
@tazmaniandevil_9185
@tazmaniandevil_9185 Месяц назад
salty his DPOY is phony?
@theresaking7020
@theresaking7020 Месяц назад
​@@tazmaniandevil_9185 Why would any rational person be 'salty' over an article that can be refuted with 3 paragraphs... Haberstroh took issue with Jordan's steals/blocks from his DPOY season in 1987/88 so he analysed just SIX home games out of a total FORTY ONE home games. Of the 6 games he 'analysed', 1 was available online and he sourced the other 5 games from Europe on VHS tapes. He very conveniently claims he could only source 5 games from Europe, meaning the film from the other THIRTY FIVE home games from that 1987/88 DPOY season has not been analysed. Interestingly, he chose NOT to release the film from those 5 games that he has on VHS tape, despite the fact that there's a multitude of ways to upload VHS online nowadays. If he's so confident in what he saw on those tapes, why not publish them online alongside his article? Instead, we are expected to simply take his word on what he observed in those 5 games? Here's the kicker...even if he DID post the footage of those 5 games online, and his findings relating to those 5 games were verified, his allegation would still be worthless because THIRTY FIVE other home games were played in Chicago Stadium that DPOY season and none of those 35 games have been analysed. That means that 86% of Jordan's home games from that season were excluded from Haberstroh's report! Since when has ANY investigation been considered credible if 86% of the relevant data has been omitted from analysis! He also claims that Jordan's steals/blocks in his DPOY season are an 'anomaly', God-like', heavily inflated in comparison to any of his other seasons...that is completely untrue because his defensive stats in the previous 1986/87 season were ALMOST IDENTICAL to his DPOY stats! Discrediting Jordan's DPOY is clearly important to Haberstroh but that would require 2 courses of action... 1) A full analysis of the stats and film from EVERY SINGLE Bulls home game in that 1987/88 season would need to be completed, all FORTY ONE games, not just SIX. Every single block and steal would need to be analysed on film and then compared to the official box score for each of the 41 games. That full 41 game analysis, along with a video link to each of the 41 games, would then need to be made public for impartial verification. 2) The very same analysis would need to be carried out for each of the other DPOY candidates from that 1987/88 season. Targeting only one DPOY candidate, analysing just 6 of his 41 home games, pointing to discrepancies between home and away games as an incriminating factor whilst applying ZERO context, and referencing unsubstantiated claims made by one Statkeeper (who never worked for the Bulls) isn't going to cut it. Ps. The 1 game that he analysed that is available online has already been reviewed several times in the last 2 days, the box score matched the film, no evidence of stat inflation.
@redpillfreedom6692
@redpillfreedom6692 24 дня назад
​@@tazmaniandevil_9185 How? Voters don't base DPOY voting solely on stats, numb nuts. So even if steals stats are a little inflated (which he hasn't proven BTW) then it still doesn't discredit the DPOY award.
@kubaobaek1543
@kubaobaek1543 Месяц назад
Please point to the game where he had more steals than opponent had turnovers
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
Doesnt exist. These dudes make up fake Jordan vs. LeBron arguements to get them through the summer lol.
@cheetosleopard9861
@cheetosleopard9861 Месяц назад
Maybe go read the actual article
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
​@@cheetosleopard9861no need to read nonsense
@fluff975
@fluff975 Месяц назад
he was still 9x all-defensive 1st team nick like who gives af
@lacyvalenti9523
@lacyvalenti9523 Месяц назад
If he paid the score keeper to pad his stats then that's kind of a big deal.
@fluff975
@fluff975 Месяц назад
@@lacyvalenti9523 heavy on the "kind of"
@dadillonful
@dadillonful Месяц назад
Imagine defending another man like this 🤡
@fluff975
@fluff975 Месяц назад
@@dadillonful like what? I’m a lebron fan bruh I got no reason to ride or die for Jordan I just really don’t think this matters all that much
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
​@@lacyvalenti9523keep trying trolll
@MGPCycling
@MGPCycling Месяц назад
So the next person in line for DPOY was Mark Eaton. If you're saying the Utah Jazz statistician cooked the books for Stockton, wouldn't it stand to reason that he would've done so for Eaton? And Eaton still finished 2nd. Same for Alvin Robertson who finished 4th I believe? Now we gotta look at Hakeem Olajuwon too no? Or how about Haberstroh, who admitted to being a Klutch Sports hack, saying that things looked fine the year before and after. Well guess what, Jordan still got over 200 steals and 100 blocks in 1987, had better stats overall than Michael Cooper, and didn't win it. And on top of that, Haberstroh says he's got 6 full games right? Publish them in full so we can all see for ourselves. I'll wait for that to happen though...... As for not being able to get away with it in today's game, wasn't there the one of the highest discrepancies for JJJr last year, but upon reviewing the full year they said the stats were ok? So yea, do the same thing. Publish the games, in full, for everyone to view. I feel like I can guarantee they will never do this. Instead, "Trust Us, Klutch Sports, That Jordan Is Overrated" What a joke.......
@thebell9451
@thebell9451 Месяц назад
I dont see any proof he padded stats.....WERE IS THE PROOF? The article stats something scottie said happened one game that might not even be true
@GingerLyfe88
@GingerLyfe88 Месяц назад
Doesn't change anything in my mind. Never gets brought up that Bron 100% is on the juice so all his stats are questionable
@TheWholeWorld1
@TheWholeWorld1 Месяц назад
..so let’s start counting STEPS from Lebron James?
@jctslice
@jctslice Месяц назад
But even if you do that, it won't change anything. Refs know that players take extra steps, but we know that they don't call it all because they can't
@gusr8102
@gusr8102 Месяц назад
LMAO steps?? It literally was proven that people in the NBA faked stats for Jordan and you wanna bring up STEPS???? Lmaoooo that's how you know you're desperate 😂
@NewWorldDreams47
@NewWorldDreams47 Месяц назад
As long as you do the same for Jordan. After all, they let him travel many times so that he could showcase his dunking ability. Air Jordan, remember?
@LRC.
@LRC. Месяц назад
4 STEALS VS 3 TURNOVERS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 JORDAN IS A FRAUD. ACCEPT IT
@oblivionpro69
@oblivionpro69 Месяц назад
It’s out of this world the mental gymnastics it takes to compare a corrupt home court cooking Jordan’s stats…to the refs letting star players travel sometimes? Which by the way, applies to all stars not just LeBron.
@ZonictheZoneCop
@ZonictheZoneCop Месяц назад
Excuse me but why would no one notice this for NEARLY 40 YEARS??!!! It's literally basic reading.
@rlh12345
@rlh12345 Месяц назад
Access to the tapes of the games is limited. Now we need more tapes to see how egregious this was.
@mattsell2361
@mattsell2361 Месяц назад
Players today are far more criticized and nit picked then ever before. That’s why most players today have the narrative they are chokers and most player back then are legends and always clutch
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
@@rlh12345 no. Trolll
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
@@mattsell2361 nice coping kid
@rackball5858
@rackball5858 Месяц назад
@@rlh12345Access is not limited. 11 million people lived in Illinois in 1988. The games were locally broadcasted on channel 32. There’s full games on RU-vid from that season. Anyone with 1 eye & decent vision can see what 1988 Jordan was.
@suntansuperman26
@suntansuperman26 Месяц назад
So why didn’t he win the DPOY in ‘87?
@Ericvsr
@Ericvsr Месяц назад
Just goes to show sports are fake and just entertainment
@creed200569
@creed200569 Месяц назад
Lebron and Klutch sports have destroyed sports media. I've never seen a grown man so insecure in my entire life. Favoritism is nothing new, ask the Lakers who have nearly 1000 more FT's than their opponents which is 3x more than any team in the NBA
@UltraAge
@UltraAge Месяц назад
The only thing that’s fabricated is Lebrons hairline
@Curtis-qg4ir
@Curtis-qg4ir Месяц назад
Why isn’t ESPN covering this?!
@cheetosleopard9861
@cheetosleopard9861 Месяц назад
The cops in these comments is hilarious
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
Cops? What are you on about trolll?
@johnharvey8151
@johnharvey8151 Месяц назад
We get it you hate Michael Jordan
@rektz2457
@rektz2457 Месяц назад
It's not hate, if it's facts. Michael Jordan is a proven fraud
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
​@@rektz2457trolll
@boss_libra
@boss_libra Месяц назад
Nah, truth will always go out. Pippen exposed it, it was just proven to be true because you dumb Jordashians don't want to believe Pippen.
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
@@boss_libra no truth found trolll
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
@@boss_libra stop using Pippen as your lame crutch
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien Месяц назад
Why did you only look at Jordan's stats and not other players from the era, and other players who have won DPOY?
@rlh12345
@rlh12345 Месяц назад
Bc they saw that Jordan had the biggest home vs away stocks discrepancy of all DPOY winners. This should be explored further with other players as well.
@mattpassos5689
@mattpassos5689 Месяц назад
Gotta start somewhere, why don't you look I to the stats since you care that much
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
Because the other players are not viewed as the "Goat", and therefore standing in the way of LeBalco lol.
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
​@@rlh12345Lies. They'd have to evaluate all 82 games to determine that. You're a li ar just like them.
@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.
@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON. Месяц назад
@@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bzWell (if it is true) the fact that if he was having more steals then opponent turnovers is pretty ridiculous
@libfit9068
@libfit9068 Месяц назад
Jordan would've likely still won DPOY.. The Bulls were the #1 defensive team in the league that year with Jordan at the helm.
@markbrunache648
@markbrunache648 Месяц назад
I don’t understand. Does the public not have access to these games so we can review them ourselves?
@dumbdoms
@dumbdoms Месяц назад
*That's the problem, those games aren't readily available so it's so much easier to fake stats. You can find any modern game tape, so players can't fake stats today. That's why modern players are considered better than past players because it's 100% legit.*
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
​@@dumbdomstry harder trolll
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
​@@dumbdomsand don't like your own comment
@adu11
@adu11 Месяц назад
Here's my issue w this analysis: if you're going to do it you need to do it w a representative sample of players that year to show there was an actual bias. Also the LeBron hating in the comments as lame as it is predictable and not because it is Nick wright but because LeBron ALWAYS gets mentioned anytime someone criticizes Jordan which the Jordan glazers don't realize but SCREAMS "we're insecure" 🙄🤦🏾‍♂️
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
Yawn Bron minion
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
Insecure Bron minion i meant
@adu11
@adu11 Месяц назад
@@nonamewillbegiven2412 literally proving my point. Read again. I was defending Jordan. It's like LeBron gets mentioned and your brain malfunctions
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
@@adu11 you wish trolll
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
@@adu11 Jordan glazers don't sound like defending trolll
@johnnytimestamp8224
@johnnytimestamp8224 Месяц назад
Nick was a ghost writer for the article
@Chi_Pensi
@Chi_Pensi Месяц назад
And I am certain that the fact that Wright (along with Broussard, and Haberstroh) are represented by, wait for it, Klutch Sports, has absolutely NO bearing at all on the anti-Jordan/pro-James slant. Oh, also, up is down; down is up, and the Tooth Fairy is real!
@TimothySantiago420
@TimothySantiago420 Месяц назад
Jordan holds the all-time record for the most blocked shots ever by a guard with 893! His 131 blocks in a single 82 game season is the most ever recorded by a guard! Jordan also became the first player ever (only Olajuwon and Pippen also did it later) with 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season, and he did it twice-1988 and 1989.
@taxationistheft7
@taxationistheft7 Месяц назад
Why doesn’t someone actually watch all the games he played then?
@dadillonful
@dadillonful Месяц назад
Why don’t you ? Incel
@Dottor_J
@Dottor_J Месяц назад
Because most aren't available
@taxationistheft7
@taxationistheft7 Месяц назад
@@Dottor_J oh so it’s speculation got it
@lukuscantrell2841
@lukuscantrell2841 Месяц назад
@@taxationistheft7no 😭😭😭your slow
@taxationistheft7
@taxationistheft7 Месяц назад
@@lukuscantrell2841 oh explain it to me then
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien Месяц назад
So what's the explanation for Jordan's stats in 1986/87? Even if you disregard his steals and blocks totals for home games and double his total for road games, he still gets to 200+ steals and 100+ blocks that season. But I guess him being robbed of DPOY that year doesn't matter.
@lp3860
@lp3860 Месяц назад
And his blocks were with a near 50-50 split.
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien Месяц назад
@@lp3860 Yup.
@rajkaranvirk7525
@rajkaranvirk7525 Месяц назад
Who said the number inflations were confined to just the 1988 season? 1987 could’ve been inflated too 🤷🏾‍♂️
@pvp2016
@pvp2016 Месяц назад
Context is everything, what is considered a steal? Where away games reviewed?
@davidsyked9420
@davidsyked9420 Месяц назад
I think Nick might have made a mistake saying real journalism, because that's something he never does, Nick is a Klutch Sports employee that don't report facts, Nick only promote Klutch Clients
@rlh12345
@rlh12345 Месяц назад
He literally just reported facts in this video.
@davidsyked9420
@davidsyked9420 Месяц назад
@@rlh12345 Nick's only interest in that video is promoting lebron
@rlh12345
@rlh12345 Месяц назад
@@davidsyked9420 So you say he doesn't report facts then your counter to me saying he literally just reported facts is that his motivations were to promote Lebron? Are you admitting you lied then and that Nick does report facts, but his motivation for doing so isn't something you agree with? It's funny that you said someone else doesn't report facts when that statement itself was not factual.
@davidsyked9420
@davidsyked9420 Месяц назад
@@rlh12345 true or false do Nick promote Lebron, Nick doesn't report as a Journalist, Nick reports his opinion on sports, that's why I was wondering why he used the words true journalism,
@ubadman1
@ubadman1 Месяц назад
@@davidsyked9420 are you playing dumb or actually dumb. Nick cited the article and what was in it and credited the author of the article and showed why it is a valid story and warrants more investigation.
@CallMeMicahT
@CallMeMicahT Месяц назад
Nick Wright still the most unlikable sports analyst on the planet.
@dp5141
@dp5141 Месяц назад
Hmmm….while I agree it was wrong to inflate stats, are we talking about one season?
@FIuxWave
@FIuxWave Месяц назад
They looked at a 6 game sample in full from Jordan’s Defensive player of the year season. They found this massive boosting of his steals and blocks stats at home games. More investigation has to be done to watch all his games in a season that year to get a clearer picture. But based off this sample it is highly likely more than these 6 have juiced stats.
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
There was no stats inflation brainiac
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
​@@FIuxWavetrolll
@goofy_xf6223
@goofy_xf6223 Месяц назад
@@FIuxWaveI’m confused. If they inflated his stats for that one season for him to win a DPOY then why didn’t they do it for more seasons?
@jynx464
@jynx464 Месяц назад
@@goofy_xf6223that’s the thing tho,they probably did but no one has been able to confirm in because footage is limited
@andrewmcfarlane4724
@andrewmcfarlane4724 Месяц назад
subjective stats cannot be reviewed because there's no reason to believe the 2nd subjective ruling will be better than the 1st.. I posted a gif of one of the plays that Haberstroh talks about and it was a Jordan steal!!!.. I'll take the word of the original, professional score-keepers ove some guy 40 years later with an axe to grind.. These are subjective reviews of close calls and anyone can reverse a few by taking the most negative interpretation of every play. Here's the actual facts that aren't subjective - 2 teams had records above .500 in 1988 compared to 15 teams today - these tougher road conditions and poor road records is why we see normal levels of home inflation in previous eras, while the one-offs of massive inflation by 88' Jordan, 90' Hakeem or 86' Robertson are likely due to personal reasons that affected home/road performance for that particular year.
@svendragon8139
@svendragon8139 Месяц назад
All of these games are unfindable. Other games I see matches up just fine. Then, look at LeBron assists credited discrepancies and be truly surprised!
@b111x
@b111x 19 дней назад
You can actually find these all on a website if you want me to give it to you but you are absolutely correct since ⁠several people came out and debunked this article because not only had Tom picked the 6 most egregious and obvious games of inflation across 4+ months, but the inflation only affected his steals totals. Sure he didn’t average over 4 steals per game, but he certainly averaged over 2.3 over this 6 game stretch. On top of accurately averaging close to 3 blocks per game as a GUARD. Easily making him the best shotblocking guard of all time. Which keep in mind, he was putting up these extremely impressive defensive stats while averaging over 30 points per game. He rightfully deserved this award.
@t.c.soares2254
@t.c.soares2254 Месяц назад
On either side, it's never impressive to move up by tearing someone else down...
@sirloin17
@sirloin17 Месяц назад
what about moving up because of lies?
@luridsilence
@luridsilence Месяц назад
​@@sirloin17as though LeBron doesn't have lies in his closet. Take a close look at the assists and rebounds he gets credit for... Not even bringing up the balco discussions 🤫
@farshot5374
@farshot5374 Месяц назад
@@luridsilence what kind of goofy cope is this 😂
@luridsilence
@luridsilence Месяц назад
@@farshot5374 not cope at all dude. The implication is that "only Jordan" got this type of treatment. But even today there are channels (angry old hoops fan) where they'll look at LeBron games and show that HE gets extra assists and rebounds. For this article to have a lasting impact, they would ALSO need to prove this is unique to Jordan--and we already know it's not. Others have come out and talked about how Stockton got extra assists... Barkley would get extra rebounds at home. It's not a GOOD thing, but it happens.
@oblivionpro69
@oblivionpro69 Месяц назад
@luridsilence It’s not an implication guy, it’s a fact. Until you find evidence of someone else inflating another star’s stats to this insane degree, giving them more steals than the other teams turnovers.. it’s a fact. I’m so sorry this fact hurt your little feelings.
@gherreraj
@gherreraj Месяц назад
Because Yahoo sports is such a credible source…Nick shut up.
@rlh12345
@rlh12345 Месяц назад
He said he was involved in it.
@k_hack9441
@k_hack9441 Месяц назад
Yes… yahoo is.
@boblansonfig3972
@boblansonfig3972 Месяц назад
Since when has yahoo sports not been credible ?..😂 your hilarious . In addition to that , why would they make up a lie when people can watch the game for themselves and dispute it? It’s the truth , Jordan had inflated stats when he played at home during his DPOY season . Stop being ignorant to facts and truth . And this is coming from a neutral fan who just loves the game but I can’t stand when Jordan fans or Lebron fans ignore factual information because of their bias .
@gherreraj
@gherreraj Месяц назад
@@boblansonfig3972 Stop whining. You sound like Nick. Are you Nick on a burner account ala KD???? Move on. Get over it. It’s been over 30 years and these whiny babies are crying about this. OMG the horror. Jordan is a fraud. Last I checked 6-0 beats 4-10. Nothing Nick or you can say will make Lebron better than Jordan. NOTHING. NICK and you need to get over it. Such cry babies. Lmao
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
​@@boblansonfig3972You havent even watched the games to disputee it lmao.
@younghove05
@younghove05 Месяц назад
That opens all the defensive stats on all the DPOYs ever because if it happened with one it happened to them all....i dont think Nick Wrigh knows what kind of pandoras box he's opened because now you have the books done on every player to winn all defense and DPOY.
@dumbdoms
@dumbdoms Месяц назад
*You're wrong. Only the stats before the 2000s are wrong because video proof comes after the 2000s. People accused JJJ of his 22/23 DPOY, but video proof saved him.*
@kenlen8029
@kenlen8029 Месяц назад
Nah stats have been corrected after games for years now.
@dumbdoms
@dumbdoms Месяц назад
@@kenlen8029 *People clown LeBron for winning his "bubble" ring and the In-Season Tournament, but at least those weren't faked.* *Before widespread social media and videos, anything was faked. That's why we hold players today in higher regard than the past eras.*
@younghove05
@younghove05 Месяц назад
@kenlen8029 Jaren Jackson Jr.was just last year....so you tell me where I am off.
@kenlen8029
@kenlen8029 Месяц назад
@@younghove05 My point still stands. Jordan's weren't corrected. That's what I'm saying.
@sugarfoot2271
@sugarfoot2271 Месяц назад
Jordans 88 defensive nimbers are similar to his 87 defensive numbers.
@Dr.BryceBanner5666
@Dr.BryceBanner5666 Месяц назад
It doesn’t
@bigbertha8
@bigbertha8 Месяц назад
Everyone suspected? Hahaha what? This is the first I've ever heard of this
@gabrielw7773
@gabrielw7773 Месяц назад
Bring forth the evidence and show me the plays. What counts today as an assist is right down stat juicing.
@Spacemtn365
@Spacemtn365 Месяц назад
Nick leaves out the year before when Jordan was screwed out of dpoy by cooper
@jonathonroiko7474
@jonathonroiko7474 Месяц назад
So was there anything else or was it just 16 steals less than recorded?
@ExistentialReign
@ExistentialReign Месяц назад
its a 6 game home team sample size. which means if there is this big a discrepancy then it is extremely likely this occurred in almost every other home game which places the entire DPOY award in question because who knows how many of his steals and blocks were fabricated
@bl5364
@bl5364 Месяц назад
@@ExistentialReignJordan led the league in steals and blocks at his position in years prior and after that year in particular.... all games aren't even nationally televised now so who knows how much stuff is being fornicated
@marcelsansalone3829
@marcelsansalone3829 Месяц назад
16 steals given more in a 6 game sample out of 40 possible road games, and he only got access to watch 6 full games. The discrepancy was an anomaly that year because after he won the award, The numbers went back to normal. There are also 2 of those 6 games where he was credited more steals than the opposing team has turnovers. That is prime fluffing the numbers
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
​@@ExistentialReignkeep trying trolll
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
​@@marcelsansalone3829sounds about made up trolll
@ubadman1
@ubadman1 Месяц назад
this has literally nothing to do with lebron. Theres has always been talk about Stockton assists are inflated. But blatant stat inflation in the pursuit of an award is next level. Something a lot of younger fans dislike is the worship of jordan and the belittling of so many other players. this story isn't gonna help old heads cases.
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
Yawn little boy
@magnusm.6513
@magnusm.6513 Месяц назад
Of course this is about Lebron. This is part of Klutch Sport's desparate goat campaign. But this could backfire mightily if it got further attention, because then we start looking at Lebron's inflated stats. That could become ugly for Klutch very quickly.
@latuf12
@latuf12 Месяц назад
This has everything to do with Lebron. Nick admitted himself he was involved in starting this "research". He is focused on whatever roadblock that would prevent lebron to be considered the goat. He only focused on Jordan dpoy, that another notch Jordan had over Lebron. Nick has business dealings with lebrons agent and he been picking at Jordan or any player that is a threat to lebrons legacy. He is a paid lobbyists for lebrons camp.
@im_an_alien196
@im_an_alien196 Месяц назад
Does that other dude even watch sports? He never adds anything. Lol real journalism, this stat scandal was for many players.
@w.w.1348
@w.w.1348 Месяц назад
ManDownSports cooked Nick, Broussard, and Haberstraw on this article! Keep trying.
@TheRealReal337
@TheRealReal337 Месяц назад
Nick we know why you’re actually here… to make sure that check from Klutch clears 😂
@tylergavinski8392
@tylergavinski8392 Месяц назад
Love Nick Wright but he and lebron have the same agent, so whenever Lebron/Jordan are mentioned I just stop listening
@Nickkhan802
@Nickkhan802 Месяц назад
cool what does that have to do with the topic at hand lmfao????
@bl5364
@bl5364 Месяц назад
@@Nickkhan802it means he'll do anything to demise jordan
@luridsilence
@luridsilence Месяц назад
​@@Nickkhan802it means he's LITERALLY paid to trash anyone that challenges lebron's "legacy."
@Che-jn9oi
@Che-jn9oi Месяц назад
@@Nickkhan802were you not listening. He just explained they have the same agent
@boblansonfig3972
@boblansonfig3972 Месяц назад
@@Che-jn9oiyeah but that’s irrelevant to the topic lol it would be relevant if what he said was false and/or made up , but he speaking facts. If this was Lebron they would crucify that man
@joshuagiannini5893
@joshuagiannini5893 Месяц назад
What if the error wasn’t steals but didn’t credit the team with a turnover ? So the whole more steals than turnovers also can’t be true if the turnover stat was omitted not the steal being given cause u can have a steal from a strip or deflection without gaining possession MAYBE THE OMISSION ON THE TURNOVER WAS RIGGED NOT ADDING A STEAL 🤔
@Dottor_J
@Dottor_J Месяц назад
Put aside your bias for or against a player. This is actually crazy home cooking lol.
@luridsilence
@luridsilence Месяц назад
I've said this in other comments, I'll say again front and center. Show me how the league "inflated" MJs six 3s and 35 points in a single half against the blazers? Show me how they "lied" about him stealing the ball from Karl, and hitting the final shot to beat the Jazz. The NBA must have had invisible wires for him to dunk from the free throw line. That right hand, to left hand layup over the Lakers. The countless other last second shots. All of his iconic dunks, layups and tough fadeaways. Or his highest PPG average in the regular season AND playoffs. You know, points ... The thing that's nearly impossible to fake, cuz you have an entire arena of witnesses for both teams. Stat inflation sucks. But it hangs over LOTS of players throughout league history. From John Stockton, to Barkley... Definitely don't take a close look at some of the assists and rebounds LeBron gets credited for. So... With an exclamation point, NO!--this will not affect MJs legacy. It'll just be a temporary distraction from the clutch sports clowns like Nick 🤡
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
There is no stat inflation guy. You can't fake Stockton's assists or Barkley's rebounds
@rollandcurtis874
@rollandcurtis874 Месяц назад
Desperate waste that will be ignored. Nobody cares that Oneka Wright and Tom whatever have added numbers or didn’t count the steals. Michael Jordan has ONE Defensive Player of the Year Award and LeBron James still has ZERO Defensive Player of the Year Awards, and this will NEVER change. 😅😅😅😅
@LL-zm9go
@LL-zm9go Месяц назад
🤣🤣 you idolize and comment daily about a fabricated GOAT
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
​@@LL-zm9gotrollll
@mikeserrano6548
@mikeserrano6548 Месяц назад
Yeah the goat lebron idolized and tries so hard to be like ….FAILED
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
@@LL-zm9go try harder trolll
@twanwill3358
@twanwill3358 Месяц назад
2:12 Which GAME?????? NO FACT
@TheOGGrandpa
@TheOGGrandpa Месяц назад
Atlanta Hawks game. It happened
@twanwill3358
@twanwill3358 Месяц назад
@@TheOGGrandpa year and date???
@TheOGGrandpa
@TheOGGrandpa Месяц назад
@@twanwill3358 if you care so much, look it up yourself. I have nothing to prove here
@kubaobaek1543
@kubaobaek1543 Месяц назад
He was also more efficient and scored more points at home! They counted the missed field goals as made field goals!
@Mericaa47
@Mericaa47 Месяц назад
Or he could have just been better at home..
@sososnagahae8169
@sososnagahae8169 Месяц назад
That makes no sense goofy
@kalanievans2341
@kalanievans2341 Месяц назад
Came to a conclusion based on 6 games? These lbk klutch sport groupies need to be stopped . Nerds. Lol
@NigelFang77
@NigelFang77 Месяц назад
1 game techically. They haven't proved the others even exist
@alexheap4478
@alexheap4478 Месяц назад
So hungry to try to push Lebron/tear down Jordan that the video description is a lie, and different from what you said. Hey if you wanna say he didn’t deserve it… Tell me who should’ve won it AND tell me how he didn’t deserve it the year before. I don’t think DPOY should really even depend on stats but if you wanna go there, him not winning a single DPOY wouldn’t make sense
@andrewcastillo2489
@andrewcastillo2489 Месяц назад
Ran out of things to talk about I see.
@jorgeromero1352
@jorgeromero1352 Месяц назад
From the guys that say Lebron was block only 9 times
@ponteriomade4454
@ponteriomade4454 Месяц назад
That clutch check must’ve cleared.We all have eyes and watched the games that’s why he’s the goat.
@user-qp4gp4ri8c
@user-qp4gp4ri8c Месяц назад
I'd expect more from a Syracuse grad, but this is what you get from a Klutch Sports hack. Nick, you're everything that's wrong with this generation of fans.
@lancer.greene8170
@lancer.greene8170 Месяц назад
Does this mean people lie for LBJ ? I'll wait
@ImportAl
@ImportAl Месяц назад
We're gonna act like Lebron doesn't travel, offensive foul, flop, get charity free throws, and plays in garbage time to stat pad? The greats all get favored in different ways.
@HouseOfMontague1
@HouseOfMontague1 Месяц назад
But those ref decisions, he can’t control that. This was a home team cooking the books for him, that is way different. Had he been given that same level of generosity during away games you’d have a point.
@jamesbond-lm2gq
@jamesbond-lm2gq Месяц назад
Couldn't agree with u more importAl
@codyivanrowe
@codyivanrowe Месяц назад
every superstar gets away with that. nobody gets people to add numbers to your stats
@johnnycoop8694
@johnnycoop8694 Месяц назад
What does that have to do with scorekeepers adding stats lol???
@ImportAl
@ImportAl Месяц назад
@@johnnycoop8694 The net result of refs not whistling LeBron for steps, offensive fouls, flops to FTs, often occuring in garbage time, all equal stats that shouldn't exist, like potential padding from Bulls' statistician.
@magnusm.6513
@magnusm.6513 Месяц назад
Come Nick Wright, you really wanna open that pandora's box? Your guy is the king of inflated stats, you know that.
@cochise4390
@cochise4390 Месяц назад
A month ago… lebron complains about dpoy that he didn’t win… that he shouldn’t have won anyway…. And then all of a sudden MJ’s dpoy is brought into question lol….
@jynx464
@jynx464 Месяц назад
“That he shouldn’t have won”😂😂,mf even the literal coaches voted for lebron,cope harder.
@cochise4390
@cochise4390 Месяц назад
@@jynx464 The people that vote for DPOY are not the same people that vote for. 1st/2nd team dumb as$… learn before typing and looking even dumber 🤔
@cochise4390
@cochise4390 Месяц назад
@@jynx464 and Gasol and Duncan should have been 1sr team because their stars were better… they got robbed and not Lebron 🤡
@b111x
@b111x 19 дней назад
@@jynx464In nearly every aspect, Gasol beat out Lebron for that award. It is revisionist history to say Lebron should’ve won the award that year.
@jynx464
@jynx464 19 дней назад
@@b111x bro what😭😭lebron was better in almost every advanced stat
@jblk007
@jblk007 Месяц назад
I think would be record or a box score showing 28 steals should be easily searchable
@FIuxWave
@FIuxWave Месяц назад
It’s 28 steals over 6 games. Increase your listening comprehension.
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Месяц назад
@@FIuxWaveshow the games.
@tmoney360
@tmoney360 Месяц назад
You know what i love about this? Let's say this is true. This calls into question every stat ever taken down. Every single player. Not just that but this relies on the notion that everyone who has studied MJs tape either missed this or ignored it. All of them up until this dude and his 6 game sample size. I remember watching jxmyhighrollers video on the "we done with the 90's" nonsense. In his section on whether mike had a left hand he used a sample size of one game each he was on the bulls and then the data sports illustrated had from 91-93 of 126 games charting his moves showing he had a left hand. Plenty if "fake stats" and "BS" there. But we got a yahoo article on 6 homes games and Nick and the anti-jordan mob are yelling here us the truth. Funny thing is those road steal and block stats are still higher than the season averages of the 2013 numbers for DPOY he swears LeBron was robbed of.
@kenlen8029
@kenlen8029 Месяц назад
Stats have been corrected for years actually.
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
@@kenlen8029 trolll
@NigelFang77
@NigelFang77 Месяц назад
@@kenlen8029 RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
@kenlen8029
@kenlen8029 Месяц назад
@@NigelFang77 They have.
@markbantz9699
@markbantz9699 Месяц назад
Nick is a homer ,and this take is just stupid!
@Freddy20277
@Freddy20277 22 дня назад
It’s make me sad to even be a Basketball fan. Theres not been nobody in the history of sports that has tried so hard and stooped so low to force their way into being the goat and it shames me to be a fan of the game he plays. And that’s the exact reason not in 5 years or 10 or in 40 years from now he will be considered or even in the conversation with the GOATS.
@TimothySantiago420
@TimothySantiago420 Месяц назад
Jordan is the player with the most combinations of scoring titles and All-Defensive First team honors with nine! He's also the ONLY player to win the scoring title and the Defensive Player of the Year award in the same season. His 35.0 scoring average is the highest for any DPOY winner! Jordan won the NBA championship and the scoring title in the same season SIX times (Jabbar did it once), most by any player, and his 32.6 scoring average is the highest for any player in a championship season.
@hawshaw5667
@hawshaw5667 Месяц назад
Nick is always WRONG!
@johnnycoop8694
@johnnycoop8694 Месяц назад
This is a great podcast but Nick son adds nothing to the show lol
@zain4070
@zain4070 Месяц назад
He’s good for vibes
@youngzeus87
@youngzeus87 Месяц назад
Jordan Poole
@user-gy3gu3ep3p
@user-gy3gu3ep3p Месяц назад
Please respect the young 🐐
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
No it's not
@Royale5600
@Royale5600 Месяц назад
6-0 in the finals is all I care about as a bulls fan
@dadillonful
@dadillonful Месяц назад
1-9 without pippen is insane
@Royale5600
@Royale5600 Месяц назад
@@dadillonful you sure you wanna go down this path . Why did lebron leave Cleveland twice and Miami ?
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
​@@dadillonfulYawn with that lame trolll tactic
@Chico_Lachowski
@Chico_Lachowski Месяц назад
Bill Russell 11-1, John H. 8-0, and Robert Horry 7-0. They’re better than Jordan according to your logic.
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
@@Chico_Lachowski nice try trolll. You kill your bad argument saying Horry
@pauldeojr533
@pauldeojr533 Месяц назад
Jordan the GOAT
@choward5430
@choward5430 Месяц назад
Wright will criticize every goat-eligible player except Lebron James.
@edwardvalencia9873
@edwardvalencia9873 Месяц назад
Wrong. He's giving context that you guys are not willing to pay attention to.
@danielstrongin8525
@danielstrongin8525 Месяц назад
what lebron stats were made up like Michaels DPOY stats?
@rlh12345
@rlh12345 Месяц назад
Is this not significant? 12 steals vs 28? More than double the amount.
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
Nah, he'll just attack Jordan.
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
​@@edwardvalencia9873What "context" is that lol? Did you watch the games in question to verify?
@marcusg1021
@marcusg1021 Месяц назад
They inflated everything he did. He was the ultimate marketing hype machine. Like lying about a 48 inch vert. Lies lies lies 😂
@bl5364
@bl5364 Месяц назад
Ehh it was around an 45 realistically which is still 1st class I have clips of him getting his head over the rim off of an two step approach as well if your interested
@marcusg1021
@marcusg1021 Месяц назад
Nah. After seeing this video, I give him 43 inch vertical. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c__B_f5aL8o.htmlsi=s1LDyLuonKPsgGFk
@Andrew2296
@Andrew2296 Месяц назад
@@bl5364not 45 lol you're dumb
@YEGGS_1
@YEGGS_1 Месяц назад
He got his head to the rim in 1988 dunk contest while jumping off 1 foot, he 100% could jump 45-48 inches
@marcusg1021
@marcusg1021 Месяц назад
Yeggs. You liked your own post. That's big garbage 🗑. But no. You're wrong. He didn't have that.
@thomasisrael673
@thomasisrael673 Месяц назад
Video evidence? Please make every Bulls game from the 1988 season available to the public, otherwise we shouldn't listen to this. Please completely complete your investigation. 6 home games doesn't cut it. Be more proactive in your research. I call this investigative laziness at its best.
@dumbdoms
@dumbdoms Месяц назад
*If someone does the same thing 6 times in a row, you don't need more proof to prove your point.* *There's a reason MJ's games are being hidden and it's because a lot of his stats were faked. Be careful what you ask for.*
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Месяц назад
@@dumbdoms 6 home games out of 41 played is too much of a small sample size.
@dumbdoms
@dumbdoms Месяц назад
@@judahmourneth3211 *Do you know how hard it was for them to even get 6 full home games? It was hard enough, but it had all the proof they needed.*
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
@@dumbdoms try harder trolll
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
@@dumbdoms try harder trolll
@RaininginSeersVillage
@RaininginSeersVillage Месяц назад
How will.this affect LeBrons legacy?
@onidtubes
@onidtubes Месяц назад
This is sad...on Nick.
@okcjoesos
@okcjoesos Месяц назад
The goat conversation is between Kareem and Jordan. Your man is somewhere fighting it out with Tim Doncan and Larry Bird.
@D-money813
@D-money813 Месяц назад
do not overdose, sir
@billj4525
@billj4525 Месяц назад
@@D-money813 Anyone who doesn't see that Jordan is the GOAT is well on their way to overdosing.
@Vennnnnnnnnn
@Vennnnnnnnnn Месяц назад
Wouldn't even put him in the same conversation with Tim or Larry. Neither of them hopped teams and hand picked their guys, they just play with the hands they were dealt although they were strong hands they still proved that they stood above their peers. I'd put him in a conversation of him vs KD since they both like tampering with other players and teaming up.
@rlh12345
@rlh12345 Месяц назад
@@Vennnnnnnnnn So Kareem and Wilt are out of the conversation then. Same with Shaq and Kobe (since he tried to get out).
@D-money813
@D-money813 Месяц назад
@@rlh12345 Do not speak with paint chip eaters
@Shugthemovement
@Shugthemovement Месяц назад
You dont have to like lebron to hate this situation .
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
This ain't no situation egg brain
@yellaninja4120
@yellaninja4120 Месяц назад
Tom Brady cheated and people still put him as greatest of all time nonsense. Even when other players had better stats and more mvps. Jordan never padded it wasn’t him inflating the stats it was people around him. If this is true. But he was legit averaging all his steals himself in finals every 6 rings I saw.
@JC-db7so
@JC-db7so Месяц назад
How did Tom Brady cheat? I’m curious.
@yellaninja4120
@yellaninja4120 Месяц назад
@@JC-db7so patriots were recording signals from other teams and they burned the film so only god knows how how they were doing that and it to mention deflating balls and all the other stuff Brady knew about
@rackball5858
@rackball5858 Месяц назад
@@yellaninja4120This isn’t 2015 where you can say “what has Brady done?” He won 4 super bowls post-deflategate & one without the Pats for good measure. Brady is the goat. Jordan is the goat. End of story.
@theoneweekwonder
@theoneweekwonder Месяц назад
Nick has to let go of his Jordan hate
@chillzwills6523
@chillzwills6523 Месяц назад
Nick is so funny.. he never brings up how Bron still plays in blowout games well into the 4th quarter still collecting stats lol😂😂
@nasko235679
@nasko235679 Месяц назад
Soo manufactured stats are better than real stats in garbage time?
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz
@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz Месяц назад
​@@nasko235679"Real stats in garbage time" are indeed MANUFACTURED. In regards to Jordan, i need you to tell me how many of his games did you evaluate to establish your claim that he has 'fake stats'.
@nonamewillbegiven2412
@nonamewillbegiven2412 Месяц назад
​@@nasko235679yawn Bron stan
@Yeneo
@Yeneo Месяц назад
Stop gagging on Lebron
@nigonigo6316
@nigonigo6316 Месяц назад
Only Stat I Need To Know Is 6-0 In The Finals…
@ElKabong78
@ElKabong78 Месяц назад
Do you know what's not inflated? 6 championships!
@The_Notorious_CRG
@The_Notorious_CRG Месяц назад
Of course Jordashians will disregard this and deflect to the chips. But if we somehow found out LeBron's numbers were inflated hahaha their heads would explode
@blakestarrdabeastify
@blakestarrdabeastify Месяц назад
The competition he faced in them 6 championships was inflated. Along with the difficulty of the league with that that diluted talent pool because of the 6 expansion teams is inflated. The truth is coming to the light. The world is traveling g deeper and deeper down this 🐰 🕳️ Alice 😂😂😂
@ElKabong78
@ElKabong78 Месяц назад
@blakestarrdabeastify LeBron made a super team out of fear of never winning a championship. That super team went 2-2 in the finals. Your GOAT isn't goating when it matters most.
@kevinc8955
@kevinc8955 Месяц назад
@@blakestarrdabeastifyYour GOAT is a ring chaser and deck stacker and still fell short by 2 championships. Lefraud lost series he was the higher seed in 3 straight years in a row. Jordan is 24-0 in series where he was the higher seed. Lechoke job.
@ElKabong78
@ElKabong78 Месяц назад
@The_Notorious_CRG Not true, Jordan is the GOAT, and LeBron is an opinion
@bigdogstatus83
@bigdogstatus83 Месяц назад
Nick tried so hard to put Jordan down so he can elevate Lebron James 😂. Brah! Jordan is GOAT! Deal with it!
@quiara25
@quiara25 Месяц назад
Love how you ignore the fact that the stats are illegitimate. Don’t deflect. 😂
@BayAreaHoops415
@BayAreaHoops415 Месяц назад
If this happened to LeBron you'd call him a stat padder, a fraud etc. This is a horrible look on Jordan ESPECIALLY when you find out the scorekeeper was "rewarded greatly"by Jordan.... HE PAID HIM TO DO THAT
@bigdogstatus83
@bigdogstatus83 Месяц назад
@@BayAreaHoops415 Brah! There’s no evidence of this! Wtf are you smoking?! Zero! Actually read the article! Wtf is wrong with you
@casuallybad7019
@casuallybad7019 Месяц назад
Take Jordan's meat out your mouth.
@davonjohnson178
@davonjohnson178 Месяц назад
Bron my goat regardless
@eljeer123
@eljeer123 Месяц назад
Who cares? Did he tell them to inflate the numbers? This is foolishness. Talk to the NBA about it. Smdh.
@jeffreyblackshear4008
@jeffreyblackshear4008 Месяц назад
The fact that these people go through such great lengths to diminish Jordan proves that Jordan is the standard. We could diminish something Lebron did if we analyzed it hard enough, but nobody cares. 😂
@dumbdoms
@dumbdoms Месяц назад
*Stop being stupid. People clown LeBron for real wins (Bubble Ring and In-Season Tournament), but you still accept MJ's fake stats?* *People haven't found anything on LeBron yet because it's all legit. There's a reason why all of MJ's game films aren't public and it's because of faked stats.*
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Месяц назад
@@dumbdomsnah we clown lebron for stacking the deck and losing in the finals while playing bad and having meltdowns
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 Месяц назад
@@dumbdoms take your own advice Bron stan
@frankwhite_103
@frankwhite_103 Месяц назад
It’s funny how someone wasn’t even born is talking about something that happened But not responding to Bron’s ped rumors when he’s in the media while it’s happening
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