Michael Moore, filmmakers respond to criticism of new bombshell environmental film 

I love Bill Hick & George Carlin

Truther words were never spoken;)

It's a nice quote, but it's the animals going extinct. If humans go extinct, they'll be one of the last "megafauna" before Earth becomes planet of the cockroaches.

That's what I was thinking too.

Nietzsche as a profile pic, quoting Carlin, you're truly an edgy wannabe

That is too obvious and doesn’t make any wealthy people wealthier. But yes want to create oxygen and reduce carbon plant more trees

Growth means cutting down more trees in our consumption world.

The timber industry has been planting more trees than they cut for 50 years. CO2 is oxygen to trees. Good forest management includes the thinning and cutting of trees and clearing of brush to prevent fires. Forest and brush fires are way more harmful to the environment than forest cutting and management could ever be

CO2 is plant food. CO2 is planet food. As CO2 rises, the earth becomes more green. CO2 does *NOT* cause warming. --- *!!!!! THEY LIE !!!!!*

@@harryripley7699 You're right, but the point here was that we produce more goods than good.

That is refreshing but it’s hardly journalism without any other experts to give counter arguments.

@@GhostSal counter arguments would be a debate. News is reporting on something.

@@thomasautery5057 Journalism is showing both sides of an argument and asking tough questions. This isn’t journalism, it’s commentary disguised as journalism (like most of our “news” today).

@@GhostSal ok

It was also nice of them to imply that everything Moore said was true 16:21 and then gave him a chance to plug his movie to help keep the profits rolling in. (edit: Just so there's no doubt, I'm being 100% sarcastic. What these hacks did should red flag Their complete disregard for the journalistic profession.)

And don't ever believe that the rich man knows that over population is going to threaten his life and is planning mass genocide world war three to solve the problem

The 'documentary' should be the end of anyone taking Moore seriously.

@Jay m Overpopulation is being used to hide behind by those who own all the resources. The world can easily support the existing population, distribution of wealth is where the problem lies . The false narrative of overpopulation is being perpetuated by the 1% who are becoming increasingly evident by their complaining.

Micheal more has always been a sensationalist hack. So many half truths and outright falsehoods in this film. Using footage/research from 10-15 years before the film was made with no effort to include updated data is disingenuous as can be. The anti-growth statements are a diversion from the real question: What is the best way to supply energy defined as utilizing the least resources to do so while producing the least pollution. Of course reduction of consumption will help no matter how we source our power.

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice

I started converting gas cars in the 90s to Electric and at the time there was a movement to push the recycling of gas cars by converting them to Electric which is still happening today but not as much. There is a market now for batteries from Nissan Leaf and Tesla cars 4 conversions. Click on my picture to see my RU-vid channel about it. I have my car set up to store the energy from our solar panels which I think will be the next thing. Using your electric car as a battery for your solar energy.

Ideally consumers would force producers to make their products 100% easily recyclable and repairable but lacking that consumer consensus I think it is the prevvy of government to compel corporations to make their products as environmentally friendly as possible we need to do this for our children

I agree! Another point along the same lines that I usually like to bring up is this: We've spent most of our technological advances on making things cheaper instead of more durable and long lasting. We have the technology and materials to make products significantly longer lasting. I firmly believe that one of the easiest things we can do now is to demand that governments require companies to offer a very long warranty period. If all products came with for example a 10 or 25 year warranty, depending on the type of product, then the capitalist system would become part of the solution for the problem it has created. I have great faith in the capitalist system in the sense that it is effective. I'm sure companies would find a solution efficiently and quickly. All of the cheap **** we can buy today would simply disappear as it would be unprofitable. People throw away a washing machine after a few years because it was only 199$. Had they instead bought a quality product like a Miele it would be going strong for more than 20 years and if it broke after just a few years they'd have it repaired because it wasn't just 199$. Products should also be designed in ways so they can be repaired and any attempts to prevent repairs, like for example Apple is doing, should be illegal. Repair manuals / schematics should be freely available so anyone can setup a repair shop. Some people might argue that these extended warranties would cause products to become prohibitively expensive and that may seem like a valid argument - washing machine for 1199$ or a pair of shoes for 200$? Holy cow! I would however argue that it isn't the case, products that are cheap to buy are rarely the cheapest in the long run and in the worst case it is a break even. A 200$ pair of shoes can last a decade if they can be re-soled several times and a quality washing machine can go on for literally a few decades. We should approach all products like we (at least used to) do with cars - you service it at a regular interval and if something breaks it can be repaired.

You might be interested in a book by Brian Milani called Designing the Green Economy.

Mic Sondorp the easiest thing we can do is not eat industrial or mass produced flesh foods. But that’s a sacred cow to most , pun intended

It was incredibly sketchy how it described biomass....

The film grossly exaggerates the situation and does not show efforts to curtail it. The film is a shameful sensationalism, and will do great harm to the environmental movement. The Koch brothers couldn't have done more harm. Michael Moore is no scientist or engineer, and he should be ashamed of this piece. Even this interview is shameful on his part. There are no solutions or ideas offered...other than perhaps mass genocide in the Third World. What exactly is their advice? Perhaps they are hoping this film triggers mass suicide. It might.

Most biomass is run off waste wood from milling, disruptions in lumber markets mean that there is sometimes not enough waste to completely power the plant but the power it generates is still needed. The net energy generated by waste, including tires and RR ties means that these plants generally operate at a surplus. The "truth" in this film is very selectively edited to give you the feeling you had. Renewables are not the answer right now, but eventually, they will be, you can't force change without having negative impacts a lot of which will be far worse than burning extra lumber that can't be used in construction.

@@brian2440 It was almost like he is pushing a political agenda or something rather than telling the truth.

@@scovene To me this film was saying look if you're going to make a fire then use the stuff we already have under the ground until we figure out a better solution, burning stuff from above the ground is less efficient, and that selling more goods ie solar is only adding to the problem as these items expire and don't recycle without more energy being used. Does fuel that has been burnt then stored in batteries, does this make it clean energy?

That’s what I found depressing in the movie. There was little focus on ideas of what we can do to improve the situation.

@@nancymesek That's because there really isn't any that will make any real difference except population control.. And even that would only be temporary. The green movement like religion is just a way to cope by deluding yourself into thinking it matters.

@@nancymesek I found it depressing too, but there was at least a very clear statement about what we should stop doing. There seems to be a tendency among humans to predate their own species. Those who do this should be recognised by society as needing help. Anyone feeling a compulsion to amass millions has serious emotional problems, and is a clear and present danger to society as a whole.

Kerry Burns Right On!

*deluding

this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!

Michael Minugh in Belgium that is included in the purchase price.

Well, than wind power will be totally affordable. We can't recycle plastic only few percent. We can't recycle lithium ion batteries from power tool properly, how are we going to do it with billion car batteries??

Michael Minugh We already do that. At least in the EU and I believe the US has equivalent laws by now. In the EU this is governed by the "WEEE Directive" (Waste Eletronic and Electrical Equipment). The cost of disposal & recycling is factored into the price.

@@marktanska6331 How do we do it with 30 billion tons of Fossil Fuel waste a year?????? We don't. Large scale solar batteries can be 90-95% recyclable just introduce legislation. Big difference than with a power tool battery.

Here in Japan the recycling is top notch. Their medals for the olympics were made from metals extracted from electronics and other sources. Gawd dam Corona :(

... and evolution.

True

You are on my radar. Most don’t remember or know that crucial piece of life and the triggers for an unchecked system. Coronavirus is a pause on reckless consumption.

Classic capitalism , as long as the best the streets expectations on quarterly growth they could give a damn about anything, probably literally. If a comet was about to blast the planet they'd try to tie it into growth and wouldn't care what happened after we got hit as long as they had better than expected earnings.

Put another way: "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell."

Desiree Walker have only recycled materials for production going forward ,they have the technology on a shelf already

goes against everything GM holds dear, engineer it to be unrepairable in several years, go back and buy another- GM makes engines that head bolts break in half if an attempt is made to remove them

Recycling doesn't work: it consumes more energy than is saved. We need to stop using disposable products to begin with. A HUGE change is required throughout the supply chains.

Poor guy... i understand you.

In all the years how many things did they get right or wrong

@@chopper680 the simplist one......that business in any form will use any means available to it to simply generate extreme wealth for a few in order they can sustain a lifestyle and a class where most of us cannot.

Same

HERE HERE !!!

Moore is on the devil's side.

I thought he didn’t believe in the devil

@@Citadin Oh brother. Wanting a cleaner planet is being on the devil's side? I can't wait to hear this...

@@alfredgomez3906 Well, maybe not in the way literal-minded knuckleheads do.

this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!

Loony left wing liberal fools

And it takes a mountain of firewood to run a eco-friendly energy source. The film was a real eye opener 😱

Wouldn't mind "lip service;" I'd say more Trojan Horsed.

I know it's depressing to find out 😞

I haven't watched the film yet, but I have long had a feeling that most "green" businesses are simply capitalizing on the "green" in the name and not actually doing anything useful. There are sadly so many people driving around in their overpriced Tesla's with a condescending smirk, feeling they are saving the environment. Yet, never checking how much carbon is emitted in the production of the car, the battery and most importantly, the power you charge it with. Climate change is no different from other political matters in one important regard: terrible supporters are worse than strong opposition. And I believe Al Gore, and possibly Michael Moore, have done more harm to the "green" cause than good. Their divisiveness and blatant dishonesty (at least in Gore's case) have pushed so many people into climate change denial it's horrible.

They made a sequel. Search "the new corporation" Came out a month or two ago.

@@amandap9332 I'll check it out. Thanks.

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice

@@amandap9332 Thanks for that, did not know... the first one was A+

or how the new paper straws aren't recyclable OR BIODEGRADABLE (thanks to the chemical treatment), where as the plastic ones were at least recyclable. all they did is change one mess for another.

@@arizona_anime_fan I live in Taiwan now and restaurants often use reusable metal straws. Simple enough right?!?

How about now that there's pandemic & the demand for plastic to protect us from d virus has increase a thousand fold?🤪🤯😷🤬🤧☠

this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!

Gary Johnson Jesus did that about 2000 years ago, but not many over the two millennia listened to or trusted what he warned

GET AN EDUCATION. LEARN SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SELL QUIT WAITING FOR A HAND OUT.

@@jo8495 caps lock is cruise control for cool my dude

The irony of capitalism is that the more you exploit resources (the planet, the environment) the better the economy and even regular people are. It is nonsensical. We need a system in which rationalize use (exploitation) of resources is rewarded, rather than the opposite. In that sense, every strategy video game has a more sensible economic system than we do in real life.

One look at Michael and America's problem is obvious. If they could permanently close the fast food restaurants and especially the bakeries Americans would be a lot healthier. But then people would live longer and the pensions would bankrupt the country faster. We could cap incomes at $70,000 and have one healthcare for all people, but then government employees, business owners, lawyers, Wall Street and others would have a fit. We could do nothing and pretend that everything is fine, but eventually we will have armed violence with the poor against the wealthier people. We could pollute the environment at an even faster pace and vaccinate everyone and keep track of them with Quantum Dot Tattoos and if they get out of line the Gates Foundation Tattoos might be able to just kill you. Try to avoid bringing American politics into this as crippling debt is a world problem.

I'll never forget reading this parable in One Minute Wisdom by Anthony de Mello: EXPANSION The Master sat in rapt attention as the renowned economist explained his blueprint for development. "Should growth be the only consideration in an economic theory?" he asked. "Yes. All growth is good in itself." "Isn't that the thinking of the cancer cell?" said the Master. © Anthony de Mello, SJ

Wayne T I know it’s an addiction, and I’m getting help. Please bare with me.

Conspicious consumption is a problem in more than just billionaires, wealth porn keeps it going.

"I can't get no satisfaction...." The Kinks? Or the Rolling Stones? Anyway, they were singing about all of us, not just about billionaires. Why do people play the lottery, or go to Vegas? To win money to buy more in order to get satisfied. There's no such thing as satisfaction

@ Wayne T, you better put yourself in that as well, unless you are a hermit in the woods. Which I doubt since you have internet access.

:D

Could use several doses of George again.

Jim O'Brien agreed . Same field. Solar and wind are political.

What part of the energy industry?

I've worked in the wind and solar industries for the past 12 years and I disagree, we've done EVERYTHING we possibly can to design, manufacture and install the highest efficient wind and solar equipment with the environment, always in mind. The fossil fuel industry receives billions, every year, in tax subsidies that we, in the wind and solar industry, have worked tirelessly to match. I've met with U.S. Senators in the Senate office and on Capitol Hill, talking directly with them about giving us the same tax breaks as the coal, gas and oil industries receive. The Dems and Independents have been wonderful to work with while Republican Senators refuse to ever meet with us. We haven't asked for special treatment, just to be fair, either give us the same tax credits or eliminate ALL tax credits for energy production. It's easy for Moore and others to be armchair quarterbacks and scoff at the wind and solar industries which totally PISSES me off as we're doing our absolute best to help save this wonderful planet while Moore and his buddies laugh in their mansions, flying around the world in their leer jets, mocking us every step of the way. Moore's nothing but a stupid fat ass that I'll punch in the face, when I see him.

Jim O'Brien, The film was very one sided and disingenuous, IMHO, especially not focusing at all on the consumption side (except for “culling the herd”). I think CSP when finally honed to include storage either by thermal batteries or hydro, provides great promise, as do residential rooftop solar panels, both PV and passive, especially if combined with geothermal heat pump technology. You can’t have Falstaff and have him thin.

gerald seivewright, Not when you’re damned and determined to destroy all the plants.

Cronyism 101

@blub blub Beating cancer? So economic growth equals beating cancer? What?

@blub blub Or instead of the impossible dream of eternal growth we could allocate the resources we have into things we need rather than siphoning money into the bank accounts of billionaires.

@blub blub Growth in profits decentivizes cures and incentivizes treatments. Costly and expensive treatments funded by the public and affordable by the few and elite.

@blub blub No growth of things. We don't need things to be happy. Research is different.

THIS!!!

Wtf I only go every 2 weeks

Dont ever let her know.. 🤣🤣🤣

A lot of people bulk shop using SUVs to big box stores (Costco, WalMart) buying processed preserved packaged goods that can last long time in storage. It's part of the suburban sprawl lifestyle but people in cities and the country also do it. I'm not saying that is what you are doing. However this is the exact thing that MM is getting at: consumer options that are greenwashed. However, MM's film is very badly made. You don't build trust using deceptive out of date footage. And trust is badly needed for us to work together. Lots of people have been working on this and have much more accurate and up to date info on what works and doesn't work. But many will see the support for them drop as people abandon environmentalism and retreat into the individualistic American ethic (that the film offers no alternative to!?!!!) and pe perfect survivalist consumers. It would be better to live close and walk to the store regularly and have a community relationship with the store and the farmers. Small towns in Europe have done a good job with this. Also they share their farm fields amongst the village. It's not communist at all, in fact in the East of Europe this community village farm system was damaged by big state interventions so its stronger in West Germany but not East Germany for instance. The English/American fences and castles for rural land system is a big part of the problem. And has been for a long long time.

I go to the store several times a week, and get a lot of fresh produce, ride a bus or walk to do so, generally on the way home from work, and eat well without consuming as much packaged food as most Americans, and without consuming any animal cadavers, far more destructive than taking a few trips to the store. I don't see any way for me to shop only twice a month unless I were to change my diet to eat a lot more longer lasting (probably meaning factory packaged) foods, and less fresh produce that came from small and often local farms instead of a factory. I don't see the switch as being greener or less consumptive simply because I'd cut down my number of store visits.

Don't write aren't. Write are NOT so people notice better.

Celeste Connor Please...The human errors you are referring to are greed, manipulation and deception. Anyone, half intelligent, who has been involved in the green energy business, understands that it is scam. Al Gore McKibben and Kennedy: they all knew that “biofuel” meant mowing down forests and chopping trees into wood chips, for a dirty profit.

@@patharvard Omnes viae hominum patent per definitionem imperfectus.

This is a complex issue, and only Moore, in this interview, is able to explain it. The solution is not about personal responsibility, or personal austerity, it is about government policy that prioritizes the common good. Cuba may have an authoritarian, disorganized and oppressive regime, but they do three things very well - limit individual wealth acquisition, and promote medical and musical training. I would guess that having a lot of people training in medicine and playing guitars leaves less time for business speculation, and scheming to boost consumption. There is an art and grace in Cuban poverty, and we should learn from them.

​@@philwilson609 You should move there. US will take a Cuban as an exchange.

It's not errors, it's on purpose. They gotta eat too. Might as well do it off the backs of ideologues who claim to support your cause.

Nothing obviously incorrect here, but for the most part, this is not the kind of incisive, inquisitive interviewing that's needed, despite being polite and intelligent. Statements presented as fact, whether in this interview, or in the film, need to be substantiated by significant evidence - not by repetition, anecdote or isolated examples. The film makers need to be challenged on their assertions - not taken as experts simply because they made a film from their point of view.

Ors Boer Of course they are. It is propaganda by The Hill. No opposing view presented.

@@fuzzy1joe I liked your comment. Have you seen 'The Planet of the Humans' in its entirety? Personally, I found the claims made in the film to have been substantiated by significant evidence, about as much evidence as any documentary can hope to provide. If 'Planet of the Humans' got some things wrong, I want to know to know about it. Thus far, however, I have encountered only vague assertions and unsubstantiated accusations. If you could direct me to a place where I can read about detailed specifics, I would be most grateful.

@@lduych I watched the whole film. Like most things, it's a mixed bag. However, if you search ["the planet of the humans" review], you'll find blogs by environmentalists, various technologists and others that credibly dispute some of the films assertions. One example: the "degraded" wind and solar installations displayed are not representative or typical. Another: many of the films "facts" are outdated. - I would note that a power line coming into a "carbon-neutral" facility proves absolutely nothing except that there's electrical power available. - There IS widespread agreement that biomass combustion is not generally a sustainable source of large-scale energy. But "sustainable" and "large-scale" need to be defined for this assertion as well. - Personally, I can tell you that mountaintop removal for coal mining is NOTHING LIKE creating a clearing for wind turbines. - Solar installations are commonly lasting 30 years or more, not always derelict after 20 as reflected in the movie. - There IS analysis that confirms the net energy produced by modern solar and wind devices will exceed the inputs. But there is a "payback period". So, for example, we don't get net benefits by installing a solar panel and only using it on weekends to charge the car. The same is true of hydro. Bottom line: technology alone doesn't make a difference - what counts is employing that technology in a way that actually has an impact on emissions, mining, waste, etc. A systems approach is needed. There's an impact from all and any human activity. Including RU-vid!

@@lduych if you google reviews there are already plenty from experts in renewable energy and sustainability. There's pretty much a consensus that this film is awful. It's quite strange just how bad it is; talking points from 2 decades ago, strawmaning the environmental movement (they are all aware that transforming our energy system won't be enough), pointing out the obvious (making solar panels involved the use of fossil fuels, no shit Sherlock), attacking environmental figures who have changed their views on issues, using poor examples... They're right about some things like biofuels but overall this is trying to discredit renewal energy despite there being some major improvements in recent years. This doc is more concerned with saying capitalism is bad and even distorts the environmental project instead of explaining how far we've come and how much more there is still to do

That very line was said by Jacques Fresco some 50 years ago. Go and investigate The Venus Project .. They actually offer viable solutions to the very problems these 3 discuss...

Leftist idiots won’t be happy until mankind goes back to the Stone Age.

@@roybaty7439 it is not the left that pushing us back to stone age it is the right that wants us to stay with fossil fuel and hates progress .

@@roybaty7439 go pray lol

airdi Fossil Fuel is not harming the Earth dummie, your global warming nonsense is just that.

Lust and Gluttony is the root of all evil.

Wrong, the love of money is the root of all KINDS of evil. Child molesters do evil and it's not for the love of money, for example.

"The love of money is a root of all kinds of evil". Implies it is not the only root of evil. Know your bible!

recycling is covered too

Recycling is BS . . incinerator plants just burn it ...i've seen it first hand

@@anthonyw9129 weird. But thats not the case for everything.

You mean like the fact that municipalities charge us money to pick up recycling, profit off of that which is worth the money to recycle, and destroy the rest? They double dip, and shame the public into habits that have no meaningful effect...

@@anthonyw9129 because paper especially can't be recycled when wet with dirty nappy juice.

yep, and that starts with denying China the right to make cheap, rubbish goods that we are encouraged to throw away.

I remember when products were proudly labeled Union made but then the market was supplied with cheaper product and unfortunately we fell for it.

You and Moore first

True no more planned obsolescence of the things we buy. We need to demand they be built to last, and we need to keep things longer. Not just buy the newest latest design and get rid of stuff because we think it has gotten outdated. .

My Fridge-Freezer stopped working last year so I bought a new fridge. The old one had lasted for 36 years.

ZantherY leave

Touche!!!

yup, we are born on "the Cruise".

Pack up and move out china is nice I hear

In capatilism you always have to choice to set up and run a communal system. Get 50-500-5000 people together and decide to share all your efforts out. No one will stop you and many will wish you success In communism, it's illegal to do non communism

NOT real news, they falsely blame a virus (which the world has seen worse and even plagues) on CO2 levels. Also they don't seem to know that the very oxygen we breath was originally CO2 before the trees converted it to oxygen. Without CO2 there is NO LIFE. Also all that carbon in the coal and oil originally was in our atmosphere before trees removed it and later died. So burning it is merely replacing what was removed. Meaning we have had much higher CO2 levels during the life of our planet. An argument can even be made that free oxygen is the real pollutant as at one point our planet didn't have any, it came from thousands of years of plant life creating it while diminishing the CO2 levels in our atmosphere. Also they don't discuss that ALMOST ALL HEAT PRODUCED in our atmosphere is created by the water vapor that is present. CO2 has minimal impact on heat production when compared to water vapor in the air. So why is no one talking about drying our air, or perhaps finding ways to shade the planet instead of fabricating excuses to run everyone's life as we are an energy economy and been so since the stone age.

@@douglascounts4634 Go back on your meds man.

Global Warming is fake news . . . but you crazy with your rambling !!!

Fake

They believe in catastrophic global warming, so no, they are providing anything but real news, in this regard.

and part of living smaller is having fewer kids.

You can't tell billionaires to do things. You have to force them. Better yet, you could eliminate class systems, but we'd have to get rid of capitalism since it's inherently classist as it creates inequalities in wealth and power. In capitalism, there will always be an owner class and a subject class.

@Bitches Brew We should forcibly sterilize the top 1% and make contraception & sterilization free for everyone. Lower income communities will naturally partake in family planning if these measures are taken.

MaybePotatoes Is it? Or is it to stop trying to prolong life so far out?

@Ms. Tal Individuals rely on multi billion dollar companies for food, shelter, and sometimes water. The workers must seize their means of production so we can consciously produce instead of letting the invisible hand produce for us.

I would like one of you panic stricken climate people to tell me scientifically how this works. I don't mean with a cliche "The Greenhouse Effect", what I want you to tell me how electrically charged particles, carbon dioxide (a complex molecule with a north and south pole) can stop heated nitrogen and oxygen non charged particles (simple molecules without a north and south pole) from rising through the layer of carbon dioxide to thermal equilibrium which has been the plan all along (warm air rises - cool air descends) "Natural global cooling".

@@ginojones5857 if you actually cared, or could be taught, you would have already figured it out instead of convolutedly demanding answer from a stranger in the youtube comments section.

@@ginojones5857 What you just said, made zero sense. The only thing that did was, warm air rising. How does the heat from the sun reach us? Under your misguided theory, it should be freezing cold all of the time. Do you know how tornadoes form? Go actually learn some science before challenging someone on it. Only an idiot would believe releasing billions of tons of carbon, while simultaneously cutting down millions of acres of what absorbs it, have no effect. Climate change is an overall heating of the planet with extreme temperatures on both plains. Explain to me what you think happens when a powerful polar jet stream is inundated with melting polar ice? Once again, if you believe powerful jet streams do not pull in cold air, you're scientifically illiterate. Do you really believe the massive amounts of methane being released through fracking and factory farming are going to make the earth cooler? How exactly does that work?

Hi Chris, it's been awhile. I hope you're doing well. I know you and I have had our disagreements on solutions, but the second guy made really great points. Infinite growth on a finite planet is a match to destruction.

@@gwills9337 Yes, thank you!

This documentary kept me awake all night!

@@conniemaggio3665 yeah, had me thinking about it for awhile. Climate change people are to blame.

Seriously, I've been worried about this blind spot of his. I heard that he blew up a model of the Unabomber shack on his NBC TV show back in the 90s. I hope that he gives to his commissary now.

How many houses does Michael Moore own?

good then you'll like Bill Gates terrapower

He is a scumbag. Who needs growth? He is already a millionare. He has all the money he needs.

Moore attributes the endless consumption to an economic system. He should know better; it's a human condition or more precisely a spiritual condition. There is no economic system that can mitigate the desire to consume more. What some described as the bottomless pit can't be filled by consuming more. He should stop trying to illuminate others till he solves his own endless consumption issue.

Michael Moore's worth 55 million

@@TheStrick10 the irony does not escape me.

The Left can't handle the truth and likes transparency as clear as circle-back Jen Psaki.

Sounds terrible, tbh

@@jdavis234 having a plow house is a tuff job but if your food supply depends on your horse, he's your best friend. If you decrease your energy, you decrease your food supply. Energy could be your horse, gas, coal, oil or the unreliable sources.

Moore is a millionare.

@@peterstafford4426 the money won't buy much during massive inflation or depression. You still have to know how to survive.

@@lindamartinez6542 Moore is full of crap.

Because is ok for him to grow but not everybody else.

I'd love to know what his angle is? How's he's going to make his billions off this.

@@kevinodom2918 It's a free movie lol

Real estate is a good investment. Where else is he going to put his money, in a checking account?

Coz he outgrows each one?? Good question.

Yes. And always: planned obsolescence.

"Lonely? Buy something in a cardboard box"

Michael Moore owns 9 homes...hypocrisy.

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice !

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice !!

Watch COWSPIRACY. Not forcing into existence 100 billion animals on earth just for our taste and fashion habit WILL make a difference.

It's the height of arrogance to say that Most the world don't even have a decent roof over their heads. The world needs 4 billion good quality homes we only have 2 billion At least under capatilism we are building ~500 million homes per decade and solving one of the most important issues of our time It will take another ~30 but most the world's problems will be solved. Housing, sustainable energy production, highly recycling economy. All will be in place in 30-40 years. Can't expect humanity to tend to their garden when they don't even have their housing situation sorted

It is an infinite universe with more materials, space and probably life than we can imagine. Confining ones thoughts to just the earth will destroy nature on it.

@keefie80 ...blame capatilism

@@jase3454 The thing is we don't actually consume any resources we just move atoms around. A car is mostly iron atoms dug out the ground and when we are finished with it is just iron atoms back in the ground Fossil fuels are finite but materials are not And fossil fuels are just a stop gap for nuclear and yes mass solar and wind power Distributed wind or solar on a small scale doesn't work as per the 'documentary' but large scale wind and solar on large grids does work. The UK is proof of this we will be 75% non fossil fuels in our grid within the next 2-3 years and we will continue to deploy offshore wind power to get to 90% non fossil fuels by 2030 in our electricity sector

this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!!

....'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!!

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice

Deathpony9000 I thought it was a very soft interview where they didn’t question any of the false statements in the movie. It was a free pass

Agreed. I stand adamantly opposed to the "progressive" agenda, but at least these two are fair. They call out both, but REGULARLY point out the left's corruption and how it's tearing this country apart.

Krystal and Saager are as professional as the come.

this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!

@@robrechtsaski7458 make a documentary with your views…..too easy to criticize others who are putting forward their views. It’s a matter of perspective. Put forward real solutions. Please.

The tab always comes due, if you keep pushing the bill off to the next generation. Also please remember this, "live simply so others may simply live".

You must be young, this is called a con job or snake oil salesman. Remove all the CO2 from the air and all plant life dies on this planet. Did you ever take Botany in high school? If you watch the news, then you know politics infects everything INCLUDING SCIENCE. Politics in science created the scientific consensus that the earth is fat and that it is the center of the universe and that the sun circles the earth. Anyone that TELLS you what science says is LYING to you. Science doesn't say anything, it has no spokesperson, it has no politics, it has no conclusions, or feelings, or beliefs. Sadly, IF this is a thing, then why is no one talking about the science? All that carbon found in coal and oil used to be in the atmosphere, so burning it is simply RETURNING it to the atmosphere where it originally came from (NOT adding it). Water vapor produces almost ALL of the heat in our atmosphere and they didn't even mention that. Water vapor is the BIGGEST greenhouse gas in our atmosphere, so why do you think none of these power hungry authoritarians ever mention that? Anyone that tells you to give them power to save the planet that doesn't mention water vapor, or where the carbon in coal and oil originally came from, or sun spot cycles, and much more isn't having an honest discussion on climate change, they are charlatans.

Watch the last few minutes, you'll be even more heartbroken.

@@douglascounts4634 This is so disgustingly disingenuous. You should be ashamed of yourself. Noone is suggesting that occur. They wish it to turn to pre industrial levels or a bit higher than that (we're FAR in excess of that obviously). Hell even half way in between what it is today and pre-industrial would be a massive improvement.

@@mduckernz Return to half way between a horse and jet plane. You just killed 6 billion people.

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice

Humanity will be the death of humanity.

@@mathgod well said unfortunately. What can we do about this because the deck is stacked against the people. The wealthy have their bunkers and wealth to hide behind. Most people are too in debt/slaves to the system to care. So depressed right now.

With respect, the planet is in no way "fine." We are in the middle of a massive extinction event. We are running out of clean water; water that supports all life on this planet. The whales are dying. The greenhouse effect is increasing. Glaciers are melting. If the human race is screwed, it's something we brought upon ourselves.

​@@mihkupaul6765​, That's not what George Carlin meant. The planet, e.g. Earth, is 4.5 billion years old. Humans have existed for one to two million years tops. Even if we disappear tomorrow, the planet will survive another 4.5 billion years. He also said that maybe our reason for existence is because nature couldn't make plastic on its own, so it created us to do that. "What's our purpose in life?" PLASTIC.

Mihku Paul The planet is fine mate. It has survived phenomena much more destructive than us in an amount of time we can never fathom. 90% of the species that ever lived on this planet have already been extinct millions of years before humans existed. We will be added to that list soon.

We humans are Planet Earth's cancer !

Considering over 99.5% of every species of flora or fauna that has EVER lived is now extinct, I’d argue extinction events are very natural to the earths ways. Meaning the planet is definitely fine. Other life forms get a shot at the big show just as we got from the dinosaurs.

Liesbeth de Vries Still, it won’t be enough.

still protect the commons not just one's living space

I think we need to change the zoning laws to allow for smaller homes and to have more portable homes we can actually take with us if we move. Just need the land to put it on, but often zoning does not allow that.

Lisa T Sadly, that is how those that have are able to segregate from those who have not. If you are a have not you may only rent property.

Looks like Mr. Moore has grown up and coming to terms with reality. Good on him

good quote but maybe socrates didn't have satn beating him with a stick to pay taxes to prop up the empire, the satanic empire has to be dismantled then people can be content, work is forced on people by taxes, essentially dont stop , satn wants tax, is a spin on xat, exact.

@@pinarellolimoncello I mean...they killed him for educating the youth...

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice

Phred Flypogger never thought I’d see the day were I was totally on board with what Michael Moore was saying.....but greed is killing this planet.

So the main problem is overpopulated places like China and India. Right?

He five hundred pounds talking about greed and excess 😂🤣😂🤣😂...

What about the "greed" of the billions of poor people, who want to reach the level of living as you. How do we elevate them to a level where they can speak and have time to think about other things than daily bread. They want your job, your life, your fridge, your hot shower.... greedy bastards

@@marktanska6331 Actually, there's plenty of food and money in the world to do that. It is a common misconception, but the rich of the world, have so much wealth that they could easily elevate the whole globe to a humane standard of living with food and shelter. They would still be insanely wealthy. For some reason, people with money don't want you to know this.

The real inconvenient truth is that Micheal Moore has 9 houses including an 11,000 square foot beach house and he is lecturing you and me about not knowing when to stop. The real truth is they mean reduction for you, not for them. The real truth is they have spent the better part of 5 decades convincing you to hate yourselves, to hate success, to hate having enough, and to hate the thought of having children. The real truth is global warming/climate change is nothing more than eugenics 2.0, with its roots in the fascist and communist movements, communists went after the middle class, fascists went after the "lower class". Micheal Moore touches on it, but like any good salesman leaves it to be your decision that the only way to save the planet is to decide who gets to live and who doesn't. Yes, we will run out of fossil fuels in a few hundred years, but there are alternatives, the rush to put those in place is causing far more damage than good. The only reason that all these companies are selling you a false sense of hope is that you are asking for it, they can see the writing on the wall, they know what happens when there is not enough food and people are trying to destabilize the governments, it is all in the history books, and we are at the tipping point again. The far-left will get their wish and we will all suffer for it, they will bath in your blood.

@@JB-wq6yi lol

@@JB-wq6yi sad but true.

@My Info I think there's a commonality between that comment and the film. It's about calling who's hypocrite. It's not about looking for solutions, growing our own food, generating our own power, or severing the power (Wall Street).

J B , I think you meant “bathe in your blood.” I was following you and thinking it was a good comment until you started slinging political name calling. Why is it that so many commenters on social media can only view issues through a partisan lens? I think this is a sign of an enslaved mind. There are many conservatives that support environmental causes.

If Science teaches us anything it is that nothing lasts forever. You cannot have unlimited economic growth, unlimited population growth, because we have not got unlimited resources. The Earth is demonstrably finite. What we do have, however, as humans are a seemingly unlimited capacity to adapt, to innovate, to change. We need to act collectively together a lot more carefully, to realise that this Earth is all we have and that we had better start using it more wisely. We really do need to get a lot smarter.

God, I love a Farley Mowat quote in the morning! Thanks.

Please watch CONSPIRACY. the only way to save the environment is to go vegan and stop torturing other animals en masse

@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 Plants are not vegan unless you feed them fossil fertilizer which is unsustainable and use other extractive farming practices. Animal products (and plant) create healthy soil, you need both to get trace nutrients. I agree we need to stop factory farms... that goes for both meat and plant production and take care of our soil since that is what can feed us into the future. I agree less meat is better because it takes less energy, but no animals would mean no food in the long run.

Depravity of man....

Also to stop decommissioning existing nuclear power plants

Only big cities need nuclear power. So if nuclear power is so safe, then build them in the big cities. Don't put build them 100 miles out in the rural areas and then build big power lines back to the city. Until you build these plants in the cities, nuclear power is not safe, at all,,,,,,,,

@@ddyeo503 utter nonsense. There are RBMK reactors 70 km away from St. Petersburg (close!) and are those safe? I could see a small modular reactor being used just about anywhere, but reactor safety is independent from its location. Look into Gen III+ and Gen IV reactors that are passively safe. Also look into the deaths per terawatt hour from different forms of power generation (hydroelectric, nuclear, solar, wind, natural gas, coal). What you find will surprise you.

@@ddyeo503 London City has nuclear power in it

@@pauljarski7590 It's simple, if they are so safe then build them in the big cities where they are needed. When you locate them 100 miles away it's quite obvious they are not that safe at all. I mean why build hundreds of miles of power lines if the power is needed in the big cities. If they are so safe, like you say, then build them in the large cities,,,,,,,,

its very misleading film

Most of the information is over 10 years old and represented as current. The solar and wind portion is incredibly outdated.

@@kristyroyce4942 I've read that in several places, and even checked some of the data presented in critiques of the film (I need to see more data on both sides to reach any conclusion though). If it is true that the film's critique of solar, wind and storage systems are based on 10 year old data, they should correct it. But even if it is true, I've not yet seen any critique that points to increased efficiency with biomass & ethanol; nor has any rebuttal I have seen so far claim that the efficiencies gained in the last 10 years with solar, wind & storage can keep apace with ever increasing global population and current consumption patterns. I.E. even if they presented 10 year old data on solar & wind, it does not invalidate their other critiques on technologies like biomass, or their broader socio economic critiques - e.g. production & consumption patterns, exponential population, etc.

not a truer words

Overpopulation, exponential growth of ANY kind is the heart of the issue, THEN comes the greed factor -- also very real. Patriarchy is woven into all these problems, too. And the wrong-headed understanding of the human species place in Nature and understanding of ourselves and our 'nature'. Child welfare and women's rights are central too.

@@bettinazwerdling1729 overpopulation is an issue, but moreso in "developed nations" if every country consumed like the US, for instance, we'd run out of key resources in less than a decade.

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice !!

Yes, Ian, I read we consume twice as much energy as Europeans per capita. Unfortunately, the Pandemic showed transportation didn't drop carbon emissions as much as we hoped. Still we need to halve our energy consumption, then together with Europeans, halve it again.

Opened your eyes about what? That movie is full of mistakes so i'm curious if it opened your eyes or if it actually made you less informed about what the science says.

Sharon Kritz Dark Money on Netflix is a good series to watch

@@stauffap what does the science say?

@@beste5349 the "science" is bought & paid for by Corporations & special interests. Much like our "regulatory" agencies.

@@katiekane5247 Exactly, scientists mainly work to receive grants from anyone! If they receive grants from Environmental Groups, they will gauge their research to support the environment! If the funding comes from (let's say) the oil companies, the science will support the oil companies!!! Look people there are scientists out there that were supporting the "Flat Earth" groups!!!

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice

Kevin Campbell I fail to see what is liberal about these policies.

@@jeanie51156 They not, that's the point. Gore and Blood seen a weakness and took advantage.

Corporate elites.

​@@mk1st Corporate elites go along with government elites. Because government elites are the ones making the laws that make sure corporate elites don't have to face the consequences of competition and free market. That is where the "too big to fail" motto comes. Because every-time the corporate elites mess up the government uses our tax money to help them survive and stops the young entrepreneurs from replacing them with the result of stopping innovation and progress. Governments working against free market and capitalism because of corrupt politicians playing aristocrats is what we currently have.

You do realize that Michael's net worth is $50 million but somehow he doesn't like that other's are doing better than him.

this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!

scoopsmagoo An economic system based on consumption of goods is unsustainable.

Arthur the Infidel the laundry is going to pile up anyway regardless of when you do it.

@Arthur the Infidel that's already energy that they would instead be using at the office. Just cutting out half the cars has made a significant difference in air quality and PPM where I live.

@Arthur the Infidel I'm a big climate change debunker, but your argument is wrong on its face. Surely, the fuel wouldn't be burned for the commute. Business clothes wouldn't have to be washed and you could wear the same clothes for days at home. How is laundry going to increase? The amount of electricity used in the home, while insignificant, is about equal to what you would be using at the office. The other chores you mention would all be done anyway. The only thing that would increase is efficiency.

Don’t think so. Al Gore raised some very good issues and the issues he raised, overall, remain relevant today.

@@jasonblack2760 not sure about that either since these issues jave been around since the 1950. Al gore also said he invented the internet. People raise issues all the time in business it is what you do with these issues. Now if you like Gore then I can understand how you like to protect him

@@jasonblack2760 He did, but he was a huge hypocrite. He never walked the talk..

this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!

Yet it doesn't exist in socialism

Growth for the continuation of growth is pretty much what cancer does.

To abandon management of industries to aristocrats who only seek profits for themselves & nothing for the rest is madness. To this tragedy we could oppose the truism that industries can be managed by those who work in them. One worker = one vote, industrial democracy on the basis of the needs of workers & consumers.

@@nicolasm400 Oh, like unionism, you mean? Yeah, the first thing the neo-liberalist corporatists managed to dismantle in this country (New Zealand) by bullshitting and misrepresenting what it was and how it worked. "Oh, you can have a personal contract that you've negotiated for yourself". Yeah, look how that turned out.

@Keith Johnson Well there's already a practice of bringing democracy & balance of power into aristocratic workplaces, it's called unions. Starting a new coop would indeed be a " dream job ", just gotta find the money, the idea, the market & the people

them: organic materials as fuels us: dead cows?

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!!

Likewise

I have known those things forever. The critics to this enviro-faith have always been loud. You will learn much more than from this documentary if you simply read The Ultimate Resource II, by Julian Simon. "The greatest challenge facing mankind is the challenge of *distinguishing reality from fantasy,* truth from propaganda." -Michael Crichton

The film is too pessimistic in my view and biased and even misleading in certain aspects.

Yet when many people try to tell that all this supposed environmental things are bullshit from people just taking advantage and taking tax money(this alternative energy etc industries got billions of funding until now from governments and organisations we the tax payers pay and sustain) people yell and call us names and that we supposedly don't care if the world burns etc. And the same goes for this supposed environmental agreements between nations. Is all bullshit that only give the appearance of doing something while they just find excuses to tax you more and take more out of your pockets and your children mouths. And in the end, if you want to reduce the population there is a very simple solutions. Development and NOT immigration. Advance nations everywhere see decreases in birth rates because the standards of life are high and therefore parents want to give high standards of life to their kids and is hard to do that when you have too many of them. When you live in a shithole you care just about survival and nothing more and having children is just another way of survival by using them as free workers on the fields and even selling them. Not to mention the lack of ability to just buy condoms and birth control pills etc. If those nations were advanced then they would have decreased birth rates too and the whole global population will decrease to a lower level naturally. And what does the whole planet need to advance. two things. Capitalism and more freedom from the state so people can innovate and be entrepreneurs etc. Less dictators, less taxes, less control, less micromanagement laws, more freedom. Instead of doing that we do the opposite we the advance nations are going back to being more and more socialist, and more controlling and overbearing and closer to dictatorships with politicians making more and more laws about every little detail just in case anyone breaths and doesn't pay them taxes.

@@alexhorn0151 I'm interested in what you found misleading and biased?

That's exactly why I'll never support current efforts at climate change. Giving the govt complete control over our lives while doing away with our Bill of Rights is insane. That's racism. The govt is not the answer.

@@olliefoxx7165 Make sure you make the personal changes then, Ollie... Or is this your justification for doing nothing?

@@olliefoxx7165 Not to mention, the democrates wasted time, resources, and money trying to impeach Trump. And what did Nancy Pelosi do when Trump tried to ban travel to China? She encouraged tourism to China and called Trumps travel ban xenophobic. And as a result, New York's coronavirus cases skyrocketed.

@Neil Mo I agree. As someone who doesnt have kids I'm all for doing absolutely nothing and making no sacrifices thus ensuring your children and grandchildren suffer immensely!

According to these guys it already is a crisis, and it has been a crisis for so long thats it too late. Wtf are they still talking then? They keep pushing back there doomsday clock year in and year out. There might be a climate crisis someday, maybe it's right now, but thanks to these people and their Doomsday calender getting pushed back every 5 years they lost credibillity. I'm going to start blaming them pretty soon

But it's okay for the billionaires to keep ,making illegitimate billions preaching to us that this green deal will work--go stick your head in the sane -all liberals are hypocrites. Plus he could have people that he has helped out in those homes-he can do whatever he wants with his money-none of your business ms. gossipy busybody

As a landlord and providing a roof for people cannot be sacrilegious to the ecosystem…

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice

Same with not using some of his money to help his hometown

Nine homes? Deplorables will say anything to hide the message. What did Republicans with inherited wealth do for the common good? They used their influence to keep their sons from going to Vietnam, wouldn't publicly oppose the war, and profited by investing in military contractors.

The Venus project is another utopia that leads to jet another dictatorship.

The Venus project is just another utopia that leads to jet another dictatorship.

ALL the alternative media, alternative political parties, and sparring factions of socialists, anarchists, and communists need to get on the same boat, along with the Venus Project people, the weed smokers, and the Gaia (media network) people to push for positive change. Road diets. Car bans in center cities. Micromobility. Permaculture farming. Hemp. Bamboo. Better sets of economic and environmental tradeoffs exist!

@@fennek5351 If that's what you think, then you don't understand the Venus Project. There is no structure for people like that to exist within the Resource Based Economy.

Then why doesn't this fat liberal ever blame the source of the virus...which is China? Oh yeah...the pc instinct does't allow that.

not sure why people think "mother nature" does anything. it is survival of the fittest. Virus evolve to cope up and trillions of trillions also die the process. Humans will learn to adapt or die. But this is not even a blip. The black death killed 60% of entire nations, even more. Villages and towns decimated turned into ghost towns. Still humans survived and flourished. Sure enact regulations to make things clean and proper. The best way to do this is make everyone at least middle class, when they dont fear about starvation, they can think about environment. Capitalism still is the only method that produced wealth. The rest just degenerates faster make everyone starving at the end, then you are back to square one.

The Earth population is stabilizing (check "Hans Rosling"), it is about poverty... Sure, solar-cells and wind-turbines are not made with ZERO fossil-fuels today. But individual homes can be self-sufficient, with electric car's batteries storing excess energy. While corporations are more suited to maintain & build wind-farms. The best part of this documentary is the "Bio-fuel scam", that it is not up-scalable. I wish they only done the second half of the film.

@Northernlights79 the so called Spanish.flu started in China too. Look it up

Bedros Nersesyan Absolutely wrong. Spanish Flu came from a North American avian source. Its DNA shows this. Please don’t spread falsehoods.

Don't be complacent. The Republicans and Trump's FDA, EPA ... are working long hours turning back decades of hard-won environmental regulations - things like allowing power plants to release mercury into the atmosphere, decreasing standards imposed on the auto industry, chemical industry, coal mining etc

Also a rise in depression and suicide, yay greens.

@@barquerojuancarlos7253 "are working long hours turning back decades of hard-won environmental regulations" Please name me those regulations? When it comes to left wingers there is only one thing that is factual which is they have no idea whatsoever what actually is in the bills even the ones they advocate for... Paris climate accord was literally about shiping INDUSTRY TO CHINA and China has literally no regulations whatsoever when it comes to controling CO2 emissions... "things like allowing power plants to release mercury into the atmosphere" BS "decreasing standards imposed on the auto industry" True but what standards exactly? Can you be more specific. How come when a left winger talks he is never specific? "chemical industry, coal mining etc" Again give me specifics? People on the left always make some vauge non-specific arguments. The arguments are great as slogans but as a way to explain something its pretty terrible.

@@timluke8933 what??? They're who you hold accountable forour predicament?? Lol

You're fkng kidding! Please tell me your kidding!

So does Al Gore

this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the davos globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the lab concocted virus with known medication. in order to get emergency approval for and promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put their depopulation agenda into practice !!

Renewable energy is the way to go, just not what is currently being used.

this michael moore eugenics propaganda promotes racism with african population as main problem and so indirectly promotes mass genocide in africa as lack of health care, impoverishement, market exploitation, wars, etc to "control the growth problem"

Factory farming is such a small aspect of the economic activity. THIS pandemic has DONE what NO other nations have done: STOP ALL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY! NO MORE technology usage means REGRESSING BACK to 16th Century TECHNOLOGY. Each time you develop a new cure, YOU HAVE TO use natural resources, each time you TYPE on the computer, YOUR USING ENERGY which COMES FROM NATURAL RESOURCES. Public transportation JUST SLOWS down the consumption of ENERGY that COMES from natural resources. Solar panels, wind turbines, and more ALL USE NATURAL RESOURCES to DEVELOP THEM.

@@jimmybon9314 Human race has the numbers because of fossil fuels, first coal, then oil, and little nuclear. Take away those and you and I would not be here, because current population would be about 1 - 2 billion max.

Factory farming is the way forward

The Earth population is stabilizing (check "Hans Rosling"), it is about poverty... Sure, solar-cells and wind-turbines are not made with ZERO fossil-fuels today. But individual homes can be self-sufficient, with electric car's batteries storing excess energy. While corporations are more suited to maintain & build wind-farms. The best part of this documentary is the "Bio-fuel scam", that it is not up-scalable. I wish they only done the second half of the film.

I think it's funny how people are getting by fine without things like McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, etc, in their lives now.

He's too busy screaming orange man bad

@@GeraltofRivia22 Exactly

You expect him to do everything? Go do something yourself.

Kayla Steines or why he didn’t stump for Bernie here in Michigan?

Concern trolling Kayla? 😐 Super productive(sarcasm) Tell us about the flint water crisis. Michael has lead this fight nationally. Whats your updated take?

The publisher have now also released it in response to Moore's release along with a statement that they ''didn't want to appear to be censoring, even though they don't agree with the film's message''

Only because it's the Michael Moore. The biggest hypocritical moron there is.

@@smiley3012 no you are

Glenn Espinoza It's not "health related". If it was about the horrors of vaccines it would be gone.

@Citizen Four Easily fooled, eh?

Oh please!! It's the left wing lies that makes things worse mature is perfect all we need to do is work with not against it and we'll be fine

This is sad. Every grown kids should be told the truth, they should be explained that it's because of this aristocratic, chaotic system called capitalism. Control of industries are abandoned into the hands of tyrants who only seek growth for themselves and nothing for the rest. Where else could this tragedy lead us to? Those who work should have a say, Green New Deal

@@nicolasm400 socialist like u can't count, green new trash commie deal would bankrupt USA than u would blame capitalism again boy ur dumb

in the 80's Australians literally stopped a dam being built in Tasmania, as too the rise of the Green Party being a viable 3rd party (and still is), activism was done without social media so why do we have a youth more interested in what's happening on TikTok, following jet-travelling Instagram influencers (I'll give Greta her due, she brought travel-means to light), and upgrading on every release their battery-run iPhone than doing anything - just as example for one commodity, cell phones alone, the EPA estimated more than 200M were dumped last year that includes toxic materials such as heavy metals like hexavalent chromium, arsenic, beryllium, and cadmium - heavy metals that build up over time in the environment and the human body. Be honest, I see very little happening apart from youth accelerating in consumerism, attending Earth Day, a lot of chastising of older gens on Twitter etc, albeit, but not much if any action.

Are you an idiot!!! Have you heard in the 50's the east coast had hurricane cat. 3 or 4 before? You didn't because climate change was starting to accelerate to the point we are having hurricanes cat. 4 or 5 (hopefully not) I can give you more examples about it I think you might have Internet and you can compare right wing and left wing "lies" Taking in consideration you have a brain that knows not only to listen but research independently and make your own opinion otherwise if you are one of the other idiots that believe what they read without questioning then "BELIEVE ME"!!!

While I agree that some Recycling Plastics is a sham. Recycling isn't just for Plastics, it is for lots of material that can be easily reused and repurposed. If we reduce some of the material that we use, we reduced the energy use, therefore we reduce the amount of fossil fuel we consume, it's that simple. The motto has always been "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle", "Recycling" being the last point. Doing something to help the planet is better than doing nothing, this is what Moore and company miss. Green movement isn't an immediate solution, but it is an aid. We could run this Planet using only Solar, Wind and other Green Energies, it is possible we with existing technology. Iceland generates 100% of there energy from renewables. BTW there are Electric Recycling Trucks, but most don't use them.

Peter Bond your mistake is that capitalism isn’t moral or immoral. Capitalism is just a term to describe a system. Individuals have to make the moral decisions. If I open up a restaurant that’s not immoral. If I use the restaurant money to pay a hit man. That’s immoral

Japan is on a whole different level.

They actually stopped recycling in my city because they found out it was all just being taken to a dump and not recycled.

The information that you say is 10 years out of date was already wrong then. It's only become more obvious since.

Even if it's wrong, my response would be; so what? What does that have to do with the thesis of the film?

Whole In The Soul .

"Many experts is meaningless’” look at the data, come to an accurate conclusion. Then do cost benefit analysis. So far solar , wind are low density energy producers. The environmental foot print is massive for solar. Wind has noise issues affecting animals humans and the blades killing many bird species wherever they are located. They are not the silver bullet solution like everyone dreams of.

@@simonheaney8721 even if we threw our hands up and said to hell with the birds, would it actually even work?

984francis great analysis! 👍🏾

good point

That is a silly argument, typical of Moore. People are willing to change their lives drastically (on a temporary basis) in order to save lives. They are NOT capable of changing their lives completely, in a short span of time, without so many people dying of hunger and the violence that will result from hunger and other shortages, that it will make the coronavirus seem like a minor inconvenience. We will HAVE to go back to "capitalism" once the epidemic recedes: the alternative is starvation and almost certainly war. The sort of savage wars that we haven't seen since the collapse of the Roman Empire. But we MUST set about redesigning our economic and industrial system so that it does not end with the destruction of the environment.

Taught to the masses. You mean indoctrinated to people. A sudden change, like a green NEW deal will cause an outbreak of violence and famine unseen in centuries. Another thing, "what is good for me is not for thee" attitude is why the population will never give up their way of life. Elites and hollywood will continue to travel by plane and limoes. When push comes to shove, as usual, we will find out just how disingenuous these people are in reality because they don't practice what they preach. EVER!!!!!!

@@rudevol8355 The Green New Deal has its heart in the right place...it is a good path to get away from fossil fuel overuse while providing good jobs in the energy sector. But for example, the "Green Movement" has often been opposed thru history to Nuclear Energy. For now, until we progress in science, Nuclear needs to be added in regions where we can do Nuclear into the power grid. Doing this and doing an energy mix of green (solar, wind, hydro). There will be small amount of fossil fuels where we can not avoid it. If we do this, while learning to live by consuming less....this is a path we could be on. We have to be realists and follow the science and the numbers and costs to people. We also must continue to innovate.

Tamar 4272 how do you expect people to eat?

Tamar 4272 Cave men and woman worked to survive. Hunting and gathering. We do our hunting and gathering at the grocery store now. We work and make legal tender to give the store that makes hunting and gathering take 30 minutes instead of all day. It's called trade. Tangible currency is a universal symbol. It represents labor, takes labor to earn it, and can be traded for labor and goods produced by another's labor. Ever see the explanation of the value of an ounce of gold described by the old prospector in the movie 'Treasure of the Sierra Madre'? It's remarkable and in a way explains how money makes the world go round. No illusion. In fact, I don't even know what the hell you're talking about. Maybe some silly, 'You can't eat money' Hipster meme/poster.

NELSON X : the illusion of buy buy buy consume consume consume . There’s more to life. The land, water and animals need a break. / The Sierra Madre w. Bogart movie is a classic, it was just on The TCM channel . I just saw it for the 1st time . 👍 funny you mention it

From what i understand overfishing has less to do with taking food out of the mouths of other species, than pollution does. Overfishing is putting some species being harvested on the brink of extinction tho. Your point still stands tho

Ravine Seder The ocean isn’t running out out of fish. That comment of his was just uninformed and I attributed it to hyperbole but perhaps he actually believed it. So...countries (China especially) needs to stop dumping garbage in the ocean but no one wants to hold them responsible. It’s hard to get an international coalition to condemn China for this corona virus. Aside from that, the oceans make up 73% of the earth’s surface and, unlike land, it has depth, up to about 6 or 7 miles at its deepest, I believe. There are plenty of fish in each of those layers of ocean. To suggest otherwise is just not true and fear mongering.

Vin Cenzo at least half of all ocean life of gone and has been replaced with a trillion of tons of garbage and plastic. You need to realize we’re in 2020 and in the middle of the fastest mass extinction this planet has ever seen.

Sounds like he was correct last year. It likely jumped from wildlife human beings couldn't leave alone (it took awhile to identify the host of Ebola). And it's going to be a two year pandemic, going through at least February 2022. And staying home reduced consumption and life-patterns.

Although Michael Moore used outdated energy information from 8 or 10 years ago in his movie. This interview gave me hope and actually made me laugh when he said "well... we have changed over night because of this corona virus". My hope is we transition rapidly to renewables and a "circular economy". My SunPower solar PV panels are 22% efficient. The movie shows 8%. My 10 panels cover my 40 foot garage roof and generate 6,000 kilowatt hours annually and will for 40 or 50 years. A modern wind turbine uses almost a million pounds of steel but they also repay all their embodied energy in under 6 months and operate for 20 to 35 years. Grid connected solar PV in Alaska return 15 times their embodied energy...in Arizona 27 times. In other words wind over 20 years has 40:1 energy return. Alaska solar PV has 15:1. Arizona solar PV 27:1. Heavy oil 3:1. In 2019, the US also invested a record of $55.5 billion into renewables because they are fast and now cheap. In one year of construction we can build 500 MW of wind or solar PV for $1 billion.

I disagree. The main point of the movie, which is very clearly presented and supported is that capitalism-fueled consumption is unsustainable regardless of which technology is used to satisfy (which, as they insightfully explain, never happens) consumers and capitalistic accumulation. The movie did not give me the idea that ALL environmentalist efforts/organizations are useless or a complete fraud. But it confirmed my theoretical suspicions about projects seeking to “protect” the environment without addressing production-consumption cycles, and restricting solutions to a matter of choice for consumers. I think the film is an immense help towards what matters: a becoming hegemonic of rationalities that privilege collective, ecological, and holistic wellbeing over individual economic liberties. The moment we thought we’re going to use windmills and solar panels to preserve our present living conditions was the moment we killed them as alternatives. The message of the movie is very important because it demonstrate that the change the planet needs is not strictly technological (engineering) but techno-social.

Total betrayal by those in whom we once believed.

...until we can no longer.

Zero waste, vegan, anti consumption. If everyone did this, or did their best to do this, the world would change for the better.

Totally correct!

not from what i've seen. Gore, wow, you should see his portfolio

Yeah, I bet neither will be eating that fake food bill gates hopes to make billions $$ on.

'this pandemic this should teach us a lot where we have failed when it comes to battling ...the climate emergency' M. Moore what nonsense !!! 1. covid-19 virus was made in a bio-weapon lab (US subsidized gain of function - traitor fauchi) 2. was released as a bioweapon 3. made into a 'global crisis' by the globalist eugenicists (no were near to a pandemic .....prohibiting doctors to remediate the impact of the virus with known medication. in order to promote harmful DNA-altering test vaccines to hurt the people physically/financially/emotionally.... and put depopulation into practice !