MicroLED: Even Better Than OLED! What is it? 

Micro LED smartphone displays and computer monitors with super high refresh rates and fast pixel response times would be a dream.

every OLED tv in our store has perminently burned in, OLED does in fact burn permanently

Gimme them 1000Hz monitors

The problem with new technology is that if one waits for MicroLED to become feasible to purchase you will never upgrade. There will always be new technologies which come along to outdate it. The cycle never ends.

Time to replace my CRT

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OLED tv's can FOR SURE get permanent burn-in :( I bought my mom LG OLED55B7A on August 21/ 2017. She watches the same news channel 24/7 (CP24). It has a lot of static images. Around Nov 1st I noticed that the weather icons were slightly cloudy and some of the text was a bit blurry but I didn't think to much about it. During christmas she wanted to play the "fireplace channel" for family but once she changed the channel you could still see all the outlines from the news channel. We left it on the fireplace channel from christmas until new years but there was zero difference with the burn-in. She still uses it but can now only use it for her news channel. The weather icons are so cloudy they are difficult to see and some of the ticker text is hard to read too.

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Thanks for talking with us about MLED. I had no idea it was already here so long ago, and it's just now starting to make it's grand entrance onto the public stage. Ever since CRT, we've not had a truly decent replacement for the viewing angle, and brightness / contrast of CRT. We'll never see PC monitors in OLED format due to burn in, and colour fade, unfortunately, but MLED may well be our go-to format for PCs, once the R&D costs are taken care of, and the mainstream can get their hands on it. I do recall seeing a 32" 720p TV for 10 grand, back in the early 00s, Now that same tech can be had for a few hundred bucks. LOL

So when and where can you get these? Can you also get them in 55"?

Awesome video Joe. Your videos always have the best information. You should do an "about me" video like your education, previous job, what you do on the side etc, or at least do a studio/gear tour. Keep up the great work. Big fan and fellow RU-vidr Rivers.

Yes, there is permanent burn in with oled. It has gotten much better, but it will still happen over time.

Samsung/Sony: We’re making a TV better than OLED in every wa- Me: shut-up and take my money!

(me)Wait a minuet...better than OLED nice but whats the catch (Thiojoe)Its costs more than your life savings and takes a fucking long ass time

Please I need an advice ! I have a desktop computer in which the monitor is broken , and I have a laptop , so I wanna use both of them at the same time , so that I connect the desktop unit via VGA to the laptop to be able to display in the lap top screen the content of both laptop and desktop unit !? Is it possible and how to do it. I don't wanna bay a new monitor

Pls note that microLED will not be used in smaller screens as of now. It is only somewhat applicable to larger tv sets as of the moment.

Wow, that seems cool.

OLED does have permanent burn-ins just like plasma. Just an FYI.

Now can you please show us how to wrap a few cords around my tv to turn it into a micro-led tv?!?! Hahaha love your new stuff, miss your old stuff. Great vid.

Since I don't play games I could not care less about refresh rates. However power consumption is a a huge deal especially on laptops and phones. And after testing new products in the TV section of UL for over 15 years, I am convinced that just like LED TV displays, this tech will drop in price like a rock once it becomes mainstream.

Thanks. Wanted to hear more about it.

Great, I bought the 7 series SUHD of 2016, so in 2-3 years when my TV is due for an update, this MicroLED would be sold for reasonable prices. Bought an OLED in 2016, tried it for 2 weeks and returned it, the Samsung's brightness and colors seemed more attractive and that deep black is a big pile of BS, you don't really notice it, unless you pay super attention to the issue...

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My OLED S7 edge just got a dead pixel im PEEVED.

Great info men, love your stuff.

not sure why the hate on oled as a monitor, ive been using a sony a1e 65 inch screen as a dedicated monitor pretty much since they released it and i dont have burn in at all, sometimes a little retention that goes away in a few mins. but this worry of burn in on a higher end oled doesnt seem as much as an issue as being said. hell before this i was using an lg c6 oled and no issues there either. its honestly really hard for me to go back to traditional screens now that ive used an oled for so long as a monitor, the color and look is amazing as a desktop screen that i feel its worth getting one especially as some monitors are pushing 1500 bucks these days, thats an entry 55 inch lg oled there.

Good call out on the Qled.

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A lot of supposes and maybe. In fact OLED beats any LED no matter the design, detail, contrast etc. The Sony Briva 9 is a superb LED TV but it cannot touch Sony OLEDs in real-world Movie watching in a normal lite room. LED can be better in very bright rooms in daytime use. Burn-in of OLED TVs I have never seen and I have owned several. You have to abuse it so I guess then you could. The only bright level for LED is when you go to vivid modes which of course is the worst picture you could select for viewing, in night time TV watching in a normally lighted room OLED rooms are not even close.

Does MicroLED have the wide angle field of view that the old plasma and new OLED tv's have? I have a Samsung UHD 60" tv. Great picture directly in front but fades in color and contrast severely when sitting off to the side.

Awesome! Thanks for introducing me to MicroLED.

This will probably be my next tv. I'm super happy with my Panasonic VT60 and it has plenty of life left. By the time I'm ready to upgrade, these will be feasible

The question is: if this technology is from the year 2000, than why did all companys still invested in OLED instead of MLED ?

Will it still have streaking like my lg oled has?

Four years later, where has this gone with respect to laptop screens and monitors? What is the energy usage scenario? More or less electricity consumed vs OLED vs backlit LED (IPS)? I cannot seem to a consistent answer when asking retailers about whether I will get longer or shorter battery life between charges that have OLED screens.

The difference between burn in and image retention is something you might to educate on. Image retention is the main problem with OLED now in days. While burn in does not happen as much any more. Image retention will dissipate but burn in does not. Also did you see the rollable OLED! They are not just Square!

Thiojoe, where is the plasma tv option in the poll!?!?

Well... I see one potential issue, which might also be the reason why Samsung showed that tech with a huge screen: Miniaturization / pixel density. It might well be an issue to get that display tech small enough to build a 4K TV with "only" 65 inch, for example... not to mention high-res displays for mobile phones, which have a lot higher pixel density than a large TV or even a typical computer monitor. As for the 1700Hz monitors: You will never get a system fast enough to fuel that. However, a high refresh rate display could well be used to improve motion clarity, for example.

It's bulkier too isn't it? Also the pixel size?

burn in does not go away if you turn off the screen for a long time, it is physical degradation of the pixels. the only way to "reverse" it is to degrade the surrounding pixels hence create a more even image at the expense of an overall more degraded panel with the blue pixels being the most degraded

Technology is growing at a fast rate!!

The reason the TV was giant is because micro LED's are very hard to make small. Micro LED won't be in consumer level TV's for 5+ years. OLED will remain king for quite some time.

Another con of buying a microLED TV is that itll cost 3k for a 40inch tv and itll cost another 3k when they come up with nanoLED

Thio, you seem very knowledgable. Do you think that by next year we might get HDMI 2.1 monitors with MLED tech? Thanks :)

Variable refresh rate+ Micro LED= Life.

When we reach modular 8K/16K QLED (proper)/MicroLED/OLED (without known issues) high frame rate TV's that will be it. Maybe a decade from now?

Will this be in are Phone screens soon

Nice, can't wait for the PC monitor with this tech.

New technological progress is amazing, it gets better all the time. Don't worry about the cost, it will be on sale at Walmart for $199, two years from now.

They are sure taking their sweet time. I honestly expected this to be mainstream by about 2005 since blue LEDs had already been around for ages before then and CRT trinitrons were already pure flat, high res and were cable of 240Hz back in the late 90s. LED to me was the logical next step after CRT. But nooo, fucking LCDs bro!

Micro LED used in massive 34’ screen in theaters last year by Samsung. Same tech used in The Wall

Well explained. I have subscribed.

It is getting even much harder when shooting for smaller micro-LED displays such as computer, phones, and watches.

I have had a major burn in problem with oled. Color are not correct anymore due to the stains of burn in. No more oled for me. Its a beautiful picture for a while then it wears out.

I got a second-hand Galaxy Note 4 and it's OLED display has a pretty substantial amount of burn-in that won't go away, so... Yeah, burnin is still a thing. Even though I thought we'd left it behind with CRT's...

30 times brighter. This must be the technology used in the display screen in Star Trek when they have to shield their eyes when there is an explosion visible onscreen.

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Wait. Does this mean it will be an oled, but kinda without burn in?

Great video!

Can you show us how to biuld a computer?

Considering the work Samsung has done to make OLED as popular as it is, thanks to the Galaxy S line, (I know quite a few people who think of Samsung when they hear OLED, and don't even realise there are other manufacturers of displays of OLED displays.) It is a surprise Samsung didn't continue to make OLED TV's. Maybe MicroLED's will be the true alternative for Samsung. At the moment Samsung are selling the advantage of OLED displays to consumers with their phones but it's benefiting their competitors more as they don't have a footing in that market.

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Hopefully we can get MicroLED on the S10/Note 10

Well, thanks for the info, won't be buying a 1440p144 screen for the moment. Great content as always! ;) Ps. I would prefer seeing MLED instead of QLED because well, Q stands for nothing... :/

Oled may be great for SDR content but has too many shortcomings when it comes to HDR.

Maybe we can finally get this kind of screen in laptops and computer monitors

I just want a good 21:9 5k monitor, mled would be sick!

I have a LG E6 OLED flagship model for past 2 years and I have multiple serious screen burn in issues which are very very visible. These OLED tvs are very fragile / delicate and it is extremely difficult and maintain these super expensive screens. MY ADVISE GO FOR A NON OLED TV. Features like Panel Noise Clear and Pixel shift are gimmicks and there is nothing you can do once you get single or multiple screen burns. Getting a new screen from LG is as good as the cost of buying a new OLED TV. Now since I cant throw away this super expensive oled TV, I primarily use it strictly for watching NETFLIX / Amazon Prime extra or movies that I play through download or blue ray players. For all other regular channel on DTH especially News channels and entertainment channels like Sony, CNN or BBC etc which have bright logos I prefer watching them on my Samsung TV which unlike OLED does not have screen burn issues since it is Backlit LED technology. Trust this review will help readers in making a suitable decision in buying a new TV. If you own a OLED make Double sure on regular basis that all your main picture settings like Brightness Contrast Colour OLED Light etc. are in mid range which is in between 45 - 55 range, anything higher will triple your chances of getting a screen burn which is irreversible damage. (Especially if you are in Quarantine due to Corona Virus and spending hours at a stretch watching your favourite programs on your OLED TV. Stay home and be safe...

Awsome I desire micro led tv will be available this year in 2018 for consumers in the elecronic store.

I wait for Sony Cledis. Microled was first introduced by Sony at CES 2012.

Very interesting topic!

haven't you already made this video, this is re-upload or my brain is tricking me

Brightness by default doesn't equate to overall superior picture quality or viewing experience.

I think Jerry should make a burn test on the MLED screens as soon as they come out (whatever device onwhich), since it's assumed not to burn in.... Oh, did I miss something? Seems like a poor use of neurons in my mind.

Hmmm...Why would they name it QLED? MicroLED doesn't actually have any Quantum Dot tech in it- so that really wouldn't make any sense. I think Quantum Dot still has a place in the market, as it gives you much more efficient LCD Displays. There will also be more improved versions of QD based on the way it's implemented. Just my two cents.

Could be waiting a while for this..

Galium Nitride is not exactly a new material. Makers of phased array military radar have been using it since the 1970s. If you dug into a chip in an early supercomputer, like a Cray from the early '80s, it had chips made from GN. It can be used the same way silicon is used, except it's better. For one thing, you can pump more power / current / voltage through it. Downside, it's a far more rare & expensive material than good old silicon. Galium Nitride has a been a wonder material for supercomputers and radar and space missions and electronic intelligence gathering for years. I also think it's a teeny bit toxic....

I hope someone makes a good gaming monitor with MLED

2025: Slow-mo monitors

I was waiting for this video!!!!

cant wait for micro led computer monitors

Black Mesa can be played at 500Hz on a GTX 1080 Ti at 1440p.

Easily the future of small displays such as computer monitors and smart phones, oled is still perfectly fine for tvs, save yourself money and buy oled for home entertainment, and microled for smaller form factor uses that'll really benefit

Where was qled in the poll?

So since the micro LEDs are smaller does that mean that smaller screens would benefit better with 4K 8K and so on because of their higher pixel/led density.

Nice! But I'm not interested in tv tech that cost $2,000-$5,000+...that amount of $ is a down payment on a CAR, transportation, TV's should be less than $2,000.

Hahaha, you posted this seconds ago and you already have a thumbs down, ooohhh, you got haters Joe, means you're definitely doing something right bro.

Neat technology, but largely a solution in search of a problem. As with multichannel sources, we are still limited by the source material. Does one Really need infinite resolution playback to watch ads for Dependz undergarments? And even if one has some exotic source material, does it demand anyone run out and replace an otherwise fine functional source? Hell no. The only significance for this is that When, and If, the price of said technology comes down in price to be equivalent to the current commodity pricing, you buy one when the current monitor craps out. Nothing more.

16K @ 1KHz refresh rate, with per pixel 32-bit color and full lux control on a 32" microLED monitor with an optical data interface... for $299 : D

Qled is not proprietary to Samsung it is actually a type of filter technology that uses Quantum dots Hisense has Qled TVs as well

Good video I’m glad I didn’t buy a OLED my tv is LG LED tv 4K 2015 model UF9500 65 inch there always changing so much for the curve and flat to HDR and Dolby Vision I think Micro is going to be the future tv

OLED burn in is of course permanent and unfixable. It's a degradation of the (paritcularly the blue) diode with use that causes blue subpixels that have been continously lit to be permanently weaker than those who have not been continously lit. It's why OLEDs are not used for monitors. This same phenomenon causes colour drift (think of it as whole-screen burn in). Phones do not live long enough to be seriously affected; VR doesn't have any static objects or HUD elements; TVs rarely display a static image and when they do it's a channel number or something up in the corner where burn in isn't so annoying.

One has to wonder when the capabilities of the monitor/display will out power our eyes' ability to see without this annoying thing called motion blur...

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You like oled for all the obvious reasons? What are they? Deep blacks Image retention Burn in Colour banding Vertical banding Saturation beyond accuracy Low peak brightness Longitudinal colour shift Low refresh rates What were those obvious reasons Theo?

NanoLED will be the future. Not invented yet - but it will come.

The thing with QLED (true QLED, not the samsung marketing boys) is actually potentially even better than mLED or OLED. A true quantum dot, self emissive display is theoretically possible, and could have brightness as high as 40,000 nits. If anything, they are hurting the reputation of a true QLED display, by calling an LCD display QLED.

Burn in on old is VERY PERMANENT!!! I bought a used Galaxy S5 and the previous owner must have been a preteen girl because the Facebook task bar is always on the top of the screen. I open FB maybe once a day but the previous owner must have had it open all day.